Ramp's Lead Economist on Anthropic, OpenAI, and Why SaaS Isn't Dying | MTS Live

Ara Kharazian joins MTS to discuss business AI adoption patterns, the dynamics of model competition, and what Ramp's spend data reveals about software market transformations.--https://x.com/arakharazian--MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.Follow MTS: X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠ Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠ Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠--Brought to you by:Granola - The AI notepad. Try it once and never go back. https://granola.ai/mtsKong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.comBlitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.comMerge - OpenAI, Dropbox, and Ramp use Merge to get AI to production faster. https://merge.dev/mtsAdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.comMacroscope - AI codebase understanding for engineering leaders. https://macroscope.com/mts--Timestamps:(00:00) Introduction(00:49) What Ramp Data Shows About SaaSpocalypse(03:16) Where Real Change Is Happening(07:39) Model Adoption and Competition Trends(10:50) Cost Pressures and Model Routing(18:23) Next Generation of AI Adoption Research(26:33) Growth Outside Model Companies(34:09) Legacy Players and Defensive Strategy--Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.