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Rapzilla Top 20 Part 2

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twice more twice more twice more twice more twice more twice more twice more twice more I mean, it's number 10, I mean, Andy Minio. What do you think? I think we're talking about it. How do you build actually?

Oh, he's definitely built. And that means a lot coming from you. Yes. This is one of the five that you would be looking for.

Sure, you're a very, very much. He's a big part of the taste production though. Yeah, I think this is what Shobrak has said. Not only is Andy and Dope rapper, he's a producer, writer and decent singer.

Watch this. The new face of Christian hip hop. Yes. Right.

I've got a couple of rounds with Andy and a real freestyle cipher. Not that I recite unpublished verses that I remembered freestyle, but the fumbling over concepts and words as you go freestyle, he did exceptional because he's a real him. Now, before we get into it, notice who has the least amount of records, at least amount of hours. Okay, but what's the point that I made?

Is it about impact or about talent? No, not even matter. He should not be on an all time list for sake of relevance. Andy is an amazing artist and he's very relevant now, but on an all time list, you've only been relevant to the mainstream media as far as the Christian hip hop market is concerned for two and a half years.

So we're going with the rookie team. So you're saying he should be on the rookie team? Exactly. So he should be able to make the all star game.

I'm not saying he shouldn't make the all star game. I'm not saying he shouldn't make the all star game. But what is the most important impact on the champion? This is based on talent.

So talent is what he's talking about. Here's what Andy is the most talented in Christian hip hop. But you can say that, but what you're doing and which I think they did a great job of trying to explain is a lot of people are discounting all the years prior. So if you came in to hip hop on Jesus music or you came in to Christian hip hop on Jesus music, there's a myriad of people for about two almost three decades prior to that.

But they don't show the creation of your process. No, he's very polished. He's not polished on his own. My team.

Now as he was discovered, he was discovered as a freestyle champion at Syracuse University of African Americans who were doing this for a lot longer than you. So his free cray come way before Christian direct to talent. So he was recognized outside of the Christian world. It's not before he knew Jesus.

So the talent was there. So the question is do you discount that part of the work that you have now or the reason the only reason why I discount it is because it's not a knock against the hustle or anything like that. If you're looking at Christian rappers of all time, you're not looking at your history as a Christian rapper. You're looking at what you're known for Andy is known for two albums.

the album and half because most people had a list and long enough to try to get through this second album. They get stuck on like five or six songs. What is it? No, perfect question.

There's more to it than that. He has EPs of me states, but how many people know that? That's what is listed here. They don't know if they're only going off the OPs.

But here's the thing with Andy that no one else has done. He shows you the creationary period of these bodies of work. So Saturday morning cartoons Saturday morning cartoons is like an extra view, extra look in work. He shows you his talent and everything else that builds up to it.

At the end of the day, this list is about rappers. So you're putting together of a web stream for whatever people be able to follow you and get into your mind and into your creative process and into your head and understand how it goes together. Look forward to the end product has nothing to do with your rap. Is Bo Jackson in the top 50?

He's only four years in the game. Bo Jackson is only four years in the game. One of the most iconic. He has one person right now.

Statistically, he's one of the most iconic. Every football player goes, Bo is that dude. And when you talk about the fame, it's not always just about statistics. It's about this dude was a phenom, right?

Who knows what you're saying? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

There's a lot of people though because remember this. There are people with yellow jackets today that would not get yellow jackets with the same stats as the players today would get. At the time of which they were inducted into the Hall of Fame today. I have the stats to get.

But my question is, the small group of work that you have, these albums right here are great albums. So you're talking about two great albums? None of them talk about the mixed names. Heroes from Sam are uncomfortable work amazing albums.

They'll play it to this day, right? So that's a small body of work. Is that enough? Is it, can you have a Bo Jackson?

I think that mixtapes are better than the albums. But we can't use that because that's not what they're using. So my question is, can you use that Bo Jackson method and go, you're not here long enough? If you retire today, you did not look, you weren't here long enough, but you're telling it.

How many years of both play? Four. The average running back in the NFL long last four or six years. So in that stance, he's lasted.

He lasted. He's a typical average real. He retired in his prime. If LeBron retinas will make a whole man?

Absolutely. Now why? Now why? Because his statistics.

His statistics. Like, the youngest to reach 20,000 don't matter if you don't get the 40 or it. I mean, he got a lot of points of gold. That means you're really bad.

Right, but that's not saying he was good, really fast. So like, can you discount Andy? See, I love this discussion because I personally would put him up there lyrically. I love Andy as an artist.

His complete overall message works for me. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Your metaphors are just running around right ago. Oh, dude, that was genius, right?

But like, I can't, I'm not rewinding him. You're saying bars wise. Yeah, I don't know. If you talk about talent, right?

I like the bars. I like the talent. I like the concept. I love it from what I've done.

For instance, the song that you wrote for his sister. Like, that's bananas. That's right. That's what I think that has always been saying.

He's doing things that nobody's thinking about. Huge fan of Christian thought. I think that I'm sorry. He's on a dead hole overall.

Right. It's appealing. It's like, his product is pristine. But to go back to, again, and my gripe with their list, they're saying Christian rappers.

They're not talking about all the other elements of his creativity. So if you want to, that was something I mentioned. If you want to go into the other, like, show Barack a mention to the other elements of his creativity, they have nothing to do with his rapping ability. But, well, I think Freestyle and does have a lesson to do with that.

Freestyle really does, but not production. Not singing. I don't know if rappers would say that. I think rappers in their own peer form would appreciate that and count that into ranking their own.

They would rank it, but if you literally went to a rapper and say, rank your top rappers. Not your top artist, but your top rappers. They're going to list people who are rapping. OK, but my people rank Kanye so high is because of the overall package.

But they'll say he's an amazing rapper. They say he's an amazing artist. Well, people who are trying to validate his eclectic side are saying that. But if you're talking to music ads, they go, we've never heard of do, use live orchestration in the songs like that, stuff like that.

You see, I was like crazy. Let me say this, I hate it cause it's dropped out. Absolutely hate it. It's only two years ago.

Oh, OK, I get it now. His production to me was the worst production I had heard that whole entire decade. So people were going, I hated it. I'm used to fat kids, West Coast sound.

So whenever that, I was like, why does the kick sound like so thin? I'm not putting that with selves, right? That's what I'm saying. You brought the kick.

West Coast, at 27 years old, Andy Manio was the youngest rapper on this list, and he earned a spot with flow and delivery that may allow him to climb even further in the future. Which has absolutely nothing to do with his production or seeing him. OK, he's a little bit more flow and delivery alone. Low and delivery alone, he's not as dope as this.

Other people that are better than him, that feature on his songs. KV, Ken. You better than him than Andy? Flow and delivery?

Yes. Not necessarily, not necessarily, but go back and listen to Paganini. Tell me who got off on this song. OK, Ken.

Yeah, but Ken's got off this list. But Ken is the Twitter. Yeah, Ken is Twitter. Every time I see that, it's lyrics like, oh, that wasn't really that cool.

No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is Ken is Twitter. Ken is some of my people. If you feature him on the song, he will piece the song.

But who's listening to the full Ken and albums? OK, hold on. Listen, I like that, Haven. But before that, I wasn't checking for a Ken and album.

Is he too high or too low? Too high. And he's too high or too low? And you're not too much for someone.

It's too slow. That's what it is. It's easy. That's the answer.

It's worse or better than Mr. Solo. And Mr. Solo's number nine.

So is he above Mr. Solo or? Which goes back to it. All this is going to go back to my gripe about what is your criteria for this list and the way that they're saying it doesn't make sense.

So you think about your work in terms of life as far as because if I'm working for a big, only that's two albums. Big only has two albums. But you also have those two albums stretched over time. What?

Because I've been coming up one year in the next year. Yeah, but what does that have to do anything? You know, any albums? Yeah, two albums.

But you have features of a tweet. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We got make saves. Make saves.

Don't count as features. They don't count as features. Come on, man. OK, so what about Andy?

What about Andy's features on other people's albums? Name four features. Wait, how many? How many?

One more six. That one was six on that. I don't know. Big, big.

If you want to count. Big was on. I don't know. I don't know.

He's on Jay Z's album. He's on the album. He's on the album. He's on the album.

Why doesn't he count? Why doesn't he count? He's on the album. Look, comes out.

The song album is or D12. No. Come on. Let's also make this.

Let's also make this. Having a lot of albums doesn't necessarily be quality. Either because Mr. Solo has five albums, five LPs.

And even with those five, I couldn't put him in the time frame. He's 94 to 2006. Look at him. But he was still with that one.

So he's not in this list. Should he be in the list? Is he going to be in the list? No, wait.

You want to be in the list? If you're not being. If you're playing with your card, that's a West Coast rapper. Why would he be in the list?

How do you name a West Coast Christian hip hop artist? Wait, why is that to be West Coast? Because that was part of my problem. Is he going to be in the list?

Well, I'm going to say it, but you don't know. No, no, no, no. OK, let's go. I know that's in the T-bone though.

What's in the Big Daddy Kane right now? If you go back to the Big Daddy Kane's there, any of those things, that's all about context. It's all about context, right? So I agree that gospel ganchers were pioneers and they were talented.

But to put them in T-bone in the same context of the era. In the era. T-bone was smashing. T-bone was smashing.

In the era. You know what I'm saying? Like Big Daddy Kane is not going to hate anybody now. But Big Daddy Kane in his day was Big Daddy Kane, bro.

Like, he still, I'm saying the context. You can't listen. You can't think about a 94 artist with a 2015 mindset. I'm going to say that because I bet you, Rakim could still come and move.

Maybe. Maybe. But when you hear Black Thought, you hear Big Daddy Kane. Right, but at the same time though, in context, 20 years from now, our kids are not going to be talking about Black Thought the way we talk about Black Thought.

True. Other than what you're saying, you're about 2016. We're talking about 94. That's what I'm talking about a little bit.

I'm a major. I cannot say anything about Mr. Solo because I was not a Christian hip hop fan at the time. At this time in 94, I'm listening to Snoop and Dre and the Dev Shack and the Zag going at it.

The gospel gangsters were one of the earliest Christian hip hop success stories having the backing of Interscope. Remember that? They were Interscope after dropping two LPs on DJ Dove's record label. Mr.

Solo was one of those rare MCs who was so talented that he demanded respect in the streets, the Pews, and backpacks. First of all, his respect in the streets had nothing to do with his lyrics. He was really about that life. So those in the streets, like, we looked up to his kids and we were not necessarily in the church like Doug C or Ice Cube or people that were hardcore.

But in the gang life, we would be the ones that vouch for the gangsters. Yeah, it was my other gang. The other gangsters were real gangsters. That's why they didn't make the word word.

They are. They are still right. It's on the cuss, bro. I'll never doubt their salvation, but...

What do you say? I'll let him say it. This is where... Number eight, Manchild.

The voice of Mars, Hill? Mars 3? Mars 3? Mars 3?

Mars 3? Mars 3? Mars 3? Mars 3?

Mars 3? Mars 3? Mars 3? Oh, those him, okay, Manchild, this solo.

And I would even say, uh, uh, times, um, excuse me, I don't know if I could go back at it. Those were pioneers back then, I guess you could say. But I would switch solo. Like, this is very pioneer heavy and not very today.

Badly. Here's the thing, based on what they said, because of the level of knowledge and experience they had in their explanation. Uh, let me say that. I would put the truth over.

Well, to hear the call, they call him, what a Christian, hip-hop's most prolific lyricist throughout the 2000s. So they're basically an orphan talent on here. They're saying, like, his lyricism was... So, Rob's on.

Rob's on the head of explanation after everybody put all their, you know, hate comments as they, I guess they inserted it in their way. And was like, you know, let's go ahead and sign y'all real quick. Let's... Back back.

Let me tell you how we came up with this list and why it's important. So here's why he made me wrong. It's actually titled, why you, Mr. and Mrs.

Grady, are arguably wrong about our top Christian rappers list. And later in the list, they say, in all times, top 20 list with 8 to 15 active artists, depending on how you define active, is not biased toward old artists. If anything, it's biased toward young artists. So, to try to use the argument to say that they're trying to pay over the pioneers, they're basically using that to say, if you want to talk about it that way, over half our list is active right now.

So, how can you call them right here? So, what about the answer? Is that true? Are we able to talk about the answer?

Okay, I want to get to number seven. I want to get to number seven. I want to get to number seven. I want you guys to listen to what Shilah never said.

Before you read it, I just say I really wish they would have had his letters lower case. He purposely makes it point to do that. Shilah lower case, the lower case MC. That was his honor for a whole man.

I don't think everybody had that. They don't have a choice. They did. Apparently, because they probably didn't.

You're going to show respect to the arts. What is it going to do with those pencils? It's almost the same thing. So, but listen to what they said, a Finnish doctoral candidate since Canton School took the language of 94 artists and plugged in 10,082 songs into an algorithm that he created to detect assonance rhymes in Shilah and ranked sports.

Only behind the text of Woot-Tanclan, Rock him. I'm not sure what that means. This Canton School, more first doctorate, was trying to find a way to determine how powerful these rhymes are. How complex these rhymes are.

So, they do this all the time and it creates algorithms. All the algorithms plug in a formula. I get that. So, he plugs in verses.

I didn't understand what the criteria is. He already has a song. Well, that's the thing though. Artists and songs.

Okay? So, obviously, it had to be something that was centered around hip hop in general and I just Christ hip hop. Obviously, he's the only in the top four. I guess he's the only Christian one.

I don't know how you make an algorithm based off of vocabulary now in numbers. They do it with words a lot. It's kind of how Siri works, in a sense. Well, I get it that way, but to actually rank complexity of something, that's really weird.

Have you ever heard of somebody? You ever seen the formula? You ever seen the formula? You ever seen the sentence and had somebody say the sentence is more complex?

Everything is a formula. So, you put together a rhyme. This is your verse. How complex is your grammar in this verse?

I think the other day, you said in 16 bars, what somebody else is saying like forwards. Right. So, you were able to take that. You were able to stretch it into a verse.

The question is, is that a positive? Well, do you think a speculative blue tank clown had lyrical complexity? I couldn't stand it. I thought everybody who would take that had some weird structural complexity to this stuff.

What's the line in line? What about rock him? I'll give you rock him. Okay.

So, they're putting him in that same category. So, that's why they wanted to have reference to those people. Never heard of it in dramatop. You guys were type of right now.

I guess it's a cross movement in 2007. The cross movement in 2007, Shilane has been the undisputed face of lyrical theology. That is above ambassador, right? Who wants to be talking about fulfilling?

I'm sorry. Undisputed? Under dispute. Face of what?

Lyrical theology. The amount of classical albums he's put out may be unparalleled. I don't think there's that many people that really claim to be lyrical theologians. But we're real?

Because I think we actually got away from it. Exactly. I was about to say around the college. Because I don't think anybody wanted to hear that anymore.

Oh, no, Jackie. Right. That would be. Well, yes.

I think that's the only thing that you would want to hear it as opposed to. Did you appreciate ambassadors, lyrical theology? To win extend. I can only listen to it for so long.

See, that's where it's not. How much does that have to do with his lyrical theology as opposed to him being an East Coast rapper and you're having some sort of West Coast violence? It's not even about that. It's not even about that.

I've always liked more complexity than West Coast rap. Okay. Okay. So Shilane or the truth?

Who goes above? Tell him. Here's Alan. You put Shilane over there.

I say Shilane. I'm not even sure. I'm sorry. Because if you listen to early truth, he sounded, he used, he was like a Jay-Z piggyback.

He was like Jay-Z's backpack. He was on his shoulders for a minute. I'm glad you said that because I think a lot of people fall in the day. If you're heavily influenced by an artist, you have a lot of truth.

I think the truth might be around our age. No, truth is a little bit older than us. Just a little bit. But being from Philly and the whole Tri-State area of Philly, New York, Jersey, who was the biggest rapper in the 90s from that area?

You have the late 90s to 2000. No, I get it. Don't give me wrong. I get it.

That's the influence. Naturally, that's going to be what kind of comes out. So his flow pattern is, I would say, the rams can be a lot of people. I feel like he actually spent too much time talking about Jay-Z in the rams.

Okay, never mind. Remember, remember, before the cray, we started hitting with gravity and stuff like that, the truth had moments with open book. He did. He did.

I had no, but I was saying, open book was getting right. I was saying, open book was getting right. It was a good album. It was getting like nominations that Christian and my artist were not.

But you know why his momentum fell off. It had nothing to do with his rams. No. I'm not going to say I'm not going to do that situation.

But I respect him through that situation though. I think he became stronger. But lyrically, how do you feel about him? He's got rams.

He's got rams. He's got rams games. But he doesn't give me anything different than what a secular artist will give me. Even a open book?

I think what I got tired of was from him. I always respected him. For me, I kind of knew what I was going to get from his truth. I was going to get a bunch of similes.

Because the majority of the stuff he comes with is like or as. As far as the way he constructs his rams. Such and such as such as like this. Just as well, a lot.

There's not a whole lot of metaphor except in there. There's not a lot of alliteration or imagery that comes across there. It's more like or as and we're going to add some doctrine and everything in between. There's nothing wrong with that, but after a while that gets born.

I still to this day's bump over the book as though it came out. I will bump over the book probably more than any other artist for me. For me. What's your favorite truth album?

It's an open book. Man, I was my favorite songs ever. I think mine is the whole truth. I felt like it was so personal that he really laid everything.

Because that was his comeback album after the situation. He has seven albums. He has seven albums. He has seven albums.

That's the most interesting thing. He's consistent. He's consistent. He's consistent.

Well, what he's done now is heart beat. He's kind of going into it. He's got a lot of it. That's a J.

That's a J. That's a J. Malsy. Heartbeat is more and I have a friend who works with him on his mixed bag brand where all the creativity and everything he's always going to do as far as experimenting with rock and electronic and everything.

That's where heart beat comes in. I think his sound is moving more towards that direction and being a more global, globally inclusive. Let's find elements of things. It's still going to be hip hop, but we're going to find ways to do it.

I took that. There was one thing. There's one thing about him that I don't care for. No, no, no.

Not his face. He took secular music and made it Christian. Let me give you an example. He hates that.

Yes, I can't stand that. No, he hates that. I want to say it was on the whole truth. He has a song that sounds just like Kanye on 808 Heartbeat.

What's that song called? Love Lockdown, right? He has, I don't care. Dude, it's the same thing.

I'm like, whoa. That's a different thing. There's a thing. No, no.

He does it a couple times. But he does it as if though no one is going to do it. That's why it's to me. It's like, dude, don't package that and bring it here.

That's why it's to me. It's like, dude, don't package that and bring it here. So that's what I'm talking about? All the turn that music doesn't come out as late where all their beats and stuff is basically mimicking jerk music.

Yeah. Look, with crayon turn, people are struggling with that even being a Christian. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of people coming out before when, um, when high-pumies were in, a lot of people were talking about what happened with high-pies.

But you know what? Now, I will say this one. No, I will say this one. And then, I will say that the production in Christian hip-hop is actually forward and before secular music.

Your backwards. And I'm telling you, it's having been a part of the industry and having been a producer for people. Seeing the way that it's gone, it's very backwards. I've heard stuff come out on the Christian side and then, gears later, on the secular side, that sounds like- There's elements of Christianity that the secular industry is starting to try to imitate and mimic.

Like the production standpoint. Everyone wants to say, like, perfect example and I'll mention that I don't know if they got the situations clear or whatever, but Joy-Fun-Oy's? No, they did. Oh, no.

Okay, so we tried to one that. Joyful noise. And then Dark Horse by Katy Perry, literally the exact same pattern and everything. All it is is just instruments difference.

But for the overwhelming majority of Christian hip hop, it imitates something else, whether it's a legal flow pattern or it's a legal flow pattern or whether it's production from the South, if we use it. No. There's got to be, there's doing a lot of stuff where it's a little more outside the box. It's more important.

I was just going to get into that. The obvious, Alex, Alex, what do you mean? I'm forward. But let's just understand, like producers, they're playing other people's music to get inspired.

Exactly. What's the other thing? Is it possible to kind of get some people born? Which is why people like Swooper are so important.

Because when they're doing their own production, they literally are forming what they want the song to sound like. As opposed to, hey, Alex, give me a beat. And let me write something. And I hear this sound like this.

Number five, Playgo. I don't know who he is. He's got a thousand records. He was, he was, he's a cut.

He comes out every two years. This new has gang albums too. What do you think? Hi, Lo, do we know what I'm about?

Do we know about them? Listen, allhiphop.com has something to say about him. And that's a lot of cool. That's a secular say.

He's a playful delivery. That's exactly what you might expect with a name like Playgo. But it's true that again, what this artist, he does a great job at what a lot of artists constantly miss the market entertaining. Oh, that's a word.

Hello. Because that's not exactly what we're talking about. Yeah. We're talking about lyrical rapperisms.

But isn't it, wouldn't that play into the ability of a rapper? If you're a lyric, if your lyrics are cool enough that I actually enjoy listening to them? Is that not a part of your talent as a writer? I don't know.

Because you can have a lot of people that write a lot of deep stuff or whatever. It's like, I don't care to hear you. So it doesn't matter. Outside of O.D.V.

Which one was the most entertaining right now? Method man. Right. Hands down.

Right. Who is the greatest lyricist in the boot chain? Probably the best. I know.

And that's what they did. Why? It's from a standpoint of, I think Method man made a lot more content that people were able to relate to. It was a lot more real.

He came off as a regular do. In fact, they came off as a professor. So if you're going to sit and listen to this stuff, you really got to pay attention. Yeah.

Are we putting this new to the top five? They did. I think he's high. Because I've never listened to it.

I was a person from my age in 2004. Right. OK. He's like, he's to 2014.

And I still haven't. What did you listen to? Everything that I thought. And then I'm missing a lot of these guys.

But here's the issue though. Here's the issue. This is, I learned Christian hip hop through features. I understand they didn't worse.

Because they didn't listen. The future's all right. For instance, so the first Christian hip hop I might have listened to was after the music stops. From there, I heard Tripp Lee's voice.

I heard Todachi's voice. But then I've ranced out and listened to those guys. I got to the craze because of his album cover. So what do you mean you heard?

It was what I saw. That's these stories. Because what that basically means is it's a degeneration where people no longer buy physical mediums that they do with very small percentage. That means that if you're not being seen.

Well, but this was 2005. And Christian hip hop was not on the shelves. Unless she wants a specialty source. Exactly.

But then remember, at this time, this 2005, Best Buy was not where you got CDs at. No, you got a mat. You got a mat. You got a warehouse.

You got a mat. That's a good idea. What's the place where I actually got his album from? You guys weren't finding him.

You guys aren't finding Christian hip hop there? That's what it was. At Circuitsini? Not on the shelves.

No, absolutely not. Don't. I'm telling you. I found that stuff when I was in high school.

I found that stuff in high school. I found gospel gainsters in high school. I wasn't looking for this high school. You just were different.

I didn't. I didn't. I'm 25 years old at the time. That was a first thing I noticed.

It was a tip-up. No. It was a tip-up section. It was a gospel.

Elbitized. That's the problem. You wouldn't have no limit covers. No, they had like million Jackson covers.

That's still a problem. That's the issue with trying to categorize Christian hip hop. They don't longer have their own segment. There's no genre.

There's no genre for Christian hip hop. I told you anything like that. You're either going to be an hip hop. You're going to be an inspiration.

You're going to be a Christian. They don't put them in gospel anymore. They don't put them. They used to have Christian hip hop.

They just put them on the hip hop charts. But they would rather it that way. The Christian hip hop artists would rather it be just what it's up with. The gospel artist would rather it be that way too.

Because they don't want any parts of Christian hip hop. Up until this past year's. I'm going to be honest. Listen.

Listen. Gospel as a whole. As a genre. It doesn't even like gospel artists.

That's why that is another podcast. But if you think about it for years when they had a celebration of gospel, it wasn't gospel artists that we're singing. You had R&B artists coming back because I got my roots in the church. But the whole tag thing is really more business than anything.

Not Christian hip hop but gospel. It's one of the least selling genres is gospel. That's what you're a lot of people saying. I want to go.

Let me cross it. I want to be inspirational because inspirational. Right? gospel is not gospel.

gospel is not gospel. It doesn't sell. You're going to be the last gospel album you bought. It doesn't sell.

It doesn't sell. It probably wasn't Marvin's album. I bought the... Mine was probably Marvin's album.

But it doesn't sell. It was better for a damnit. But it doesn't sell because people don't really have a... I don't think of how to formulate this.

The people who are going to sing gospel, choir members, right? Choir directors send songs out. They don't force their choir members to buy the music. Number one, and number two, there aren't any choirs anymore.

Well, I'll give a few of you. You just a choir director and you don't have one. You're going to have one for one of the decade. You're going to have a choir director.

So do you have a choir? Because I don't know what ones you're in. Exactly. Not many places still have choir.

It's all about blues now. Is it tight-trip or gospel? Yes. Yes.

gospel has got to do with choir. And that would be the last album I bought. It's a tight-trip or a live one. But put it in a...

Just a bit of riddle. It's considered gospel. Yeah. You can put it like this.

You can put it like this. You can put it like this. Anytime you put the word Jesus on something, we're going to put you on gospel. God says Jesus is more than CCM.

Isn't that crazy? It seems like gospel. Is it God a whole lot? Or is it talking about love a whole lot?

But we say Jesus is more than anything. Number four, look right. Does he belong to the top five? Yes.

Why? Well, not that. If that was rapper. As an impact, look right.

You should probably be top two and three. I like church clothes. I thought he was in a different space. Church clothes doesn't count.

I understand. But it's a big thing. They don't list it. I'm not talking about for me.

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