Reclaiming UBI in the AI Age w/ Joe Williams

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Today's episode does double duty as an interview and an announcement. Joe Williams, host of the new Kairos.fm show "Beyond the Paycheck: Reclaiming the Case for UBI in the Age of AI," joins Jacob to talk about his background as a freelance translator and how AI quietly dismantled his livelihood in 2025. From there the conversation expands into whether this moment is really different from past waves of automation, who exactly makes up the tech billionaire class, and why you should probably raise an eyebrow when someone like Elon Musk says he supports UBI. Go check out Reclaiming UBI!Chapters(00:00) - Intro (05:01) - Joe's Background (19:41) - What is UBI & Why Does It Matter Now? (27:25) - ASIDE: The Corporation Who Cried " My Technology Will End Work" (32:25) - Wealth Concetration & the Digital Economy (39:06) - The AI Gentry (48:13) - ASIDE: Sam Altman + OpenResearch + Worldcoin (53:38) - Powerful UBI Supporters Should Raise Red Flags (01:02:56) - How to Read AI Gentry Discourse Critically (01:10:00) - Who Is "Reclaiming UBI" For? (01:18:17) - Outro Critical LinksBelow are the most important links for this episode. For more, visit the episode page on Kairos.fm.NEW KAIROS.FM PODCAST - Reclaiming UBI: Work and Values in the Age of AIJosh Steimle blog post - Will AI Destroy Jobs? 500 Years of Predictions Say NoSmithsonian Magazine article - What the Luddites Really Fought AgainstITIF report - Oops: The Predicted 47 Percent of Job Loss From AI Didn't HappenFrontiers in Artificial Intelligence journal article - AI, Universal Basic Income, and Power: Symbolic Violence in the Tech Elite's NarrativeTime article - What to Know About Worldcoin and the Controversy Around ItWikipedia page - World (blockchain)

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