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EPISODE · Jan 7, 2026 · 26 MIN

Recognizing our Interdependence with Baratunde Thurston

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SummaryIn this episode of the Ecosystem Member podcast, Baratunde Thurston shares his evolving relationship with nature, emphasizing the importance of viewing ourselves as part of the ecosystem. He discusses his experiences from the show America Outdoors, highlighting stories that reveal the deep connections between people and nature. The conversation explores cultural perspectives on nature, lessons from indigenous wisdom, and the need for a new vision of democracy through Project Interdependence. Additionally, Baratunde reflects on the balance between technology and nature, advocating for a future where our relationships with both are harmonious and mutually beneficial.Key Topics nature, interdependence, technology, democracy, indigenous wisdom, climate change, storytelling, America Outdoors, Baratunde Thurston, Ecosystem MemberTakeaways- Increasingly am trying to consciously think of myself as a part of and not apart from nature.- What is a Mainer without lobster? Climate change, nature and identity are connect.- The name Death Valley came from disconnected people. They could have called it "We didn't understand the assignment valley."- We belong to the Earth, not just live on it.- Nature states, not nation states.- When we heal the earth, we heal ourselves.- The river's real, but these political lines are made up.- We need to move with and belong to nature.Chapters00:00 - Connecting with Nature: A Personal Journey05:22 - The Role of Identity in Nature08:18 - Diverse Connections to Nature11:14 - Indigenous Wisdom and Governance14:21 - The Future of Interdependence17:17 - Technology and Nature: A New Paradigm20:10 - Stories of Healing and InterdependenceLinks"250 YEARS SINCE ITS FOUNDING, AMERICA NEEDS A DECLARATION OF INTERDEPENDENCE" (Atmos) America Outdoors (PBS) Haudenosaunee Confederacy Project Interdependence Life with Machines Slow AI: Sam Illingworth Liberation Technologies John Mohawk Aza Raskin and Earth Species Project

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