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EPISODE · Apr 29, 2026 · 32 MIN

Reconstructing After Addiction with Dr. Nicole Labor (Part 2)

from Out of the Blue - The Podcast: Finding the Way Forward · host Vernon West

In Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Nicole Labor, we discuss practical healing from trauma and why the "survive, strive, arrive, and thrive" model can work for anybody, not just those who are recovering from addiction.We get concrete about nervous system support: movement, breath work, cold exposure, and the “smallest possible win” approach when depression or shutdown makes everything feel impossible.Then we zoom out to the bigger arc of growth and the key areas of Dr. Nicole Labor's books: survive, strive, arrive, and thrive. “Arrive” is the moment you’re no longer only your recovery story – you’re a whole person with identity, goals, and meaning. “Thrive” is what comes next: optimizing health, cognition, and quality of life while accepting that life still gets messy.For more on Dr. Nicole Labor:Laborhood Change Project, Inc.Support the showOut Of The Blue:Exclusive content: outoftheblue-thepodcast.org/blog

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