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EPISODE · Mar 17, 2026 · 43 MIN

Red Lines

from [Un]phased Unedited Podcast · host Lisa Ingarfield

This episode reviews the legal fight between Anthropic and the Pentagon. Then we take a quick detour through the LA Marathon controversy -- all against the backdrop of the war, conflict, military exercises (or whatever you want to call it) that rages on.Anthropic's insistence on red lines forced a confrontation that blends legal, ethical, commercial, and national-security stakes. The juxtaposition of a marathon against a war, attempts to remind us to keep the main thing the main thing, and then we call you to keep watching these developing stories.Mentioned in the showAnthropic’s Claude is suddenly the most popular iPhone app following Pentagon feud - CNN BusinessAnthropic sues the Trump administration after it was designated a supply chain risk - CNN BusinessHow Talks Between Anthropic and the Defense Dept. Fell Apart - NYTAnthropic vs. the Pentagon: Inside the Battle Over A.I. Warfare - The DailyAnthropic Sues Pentagon Over ‘Supply Chain Risk’ Label - NYTAnthropic’s Ethical Stand Could Be Paying Off - the AtlanticThe War on Anthropic: Pretextual Designation and Unlawful Punishment - Just SecurityRunners Who Complete 18 Miles Will Get a Medal at the Los Angeles Marathon – Runner’s WorldIs this war illegal? - The Bulwark Illegal News with Sarah Longwell podcastIran, War Powers, and the Power of the Purse: Leverage or Legalization - Just SecurityTop Questions the Trump Administration Needs to Answer on War with Iran – What Congress, journalists, and the public should ask - Just Security

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This episode reviews the legal fight between Anthropic and the Pentagon. Then we take a quick detour through the LA Marathon controversy -- all against the backdrop of the war, conflict, military exercises (or whatever you want to call it) that rages on. Anthropic's insistence on red lines forced a confrontation that blends legal, ethical, commercial, and national-security stakes. The juxtaposition of a marathon against a war, attempts to remind us to keep the main thing the main thing, and then we call you to keep watching these developing stories.

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