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EPISODE · Jan 14, 2026 · 40 MIN

Relate, Don't Transact: How to Build Trust and Transformation in Supply Chains

from Good Business · host Kimberly Randle

In this episode of Good Business, Kim Randle and Fiona David are joined by Aarti Kapoor, the Founder and Executive Director of Embode. With over 25 years of experience spanning law enforcement, NGOs, and corporate consulting in Southeast Asia, Aarti brings a refreshingly honest perspective on why traditional human rights due diligence is failing to make a real impact.The conversation challenges the status quo of "compliance culture," revealing how Western standards and language often alienate the very suppliers companies are trying to engage. Aarti breaks down why sending a questionnaire about "slavery" to a proud family business in Indonesia is counterproductive, and offers a practical roadmap for moving from transactional policing to transformational partnership.Guest Bio Aarti Kapoor is a human rights lawyer and the Founder of Embode, an international human rights consulting agency. With a background that includes cleaning floors as a teenager, working with UK law enforcement, and decades on the ground in Southeast Asia, Aarti helps some of the world's largest multinationals navigate the complex reality of human rights in supply chains.Resources MentionedEmbode: https://embode.coWalk Free / Global Slavery Index: https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/Rate & Review Us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Find out more at FairSupply.com and follow us on LinkedIn. 

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In this episode of Good Business, Kim Randle and Fiona David are joined by Aarti Kapoor, the Founder and Executive Director of Embode. With over 25 years of experience spanning law enforcement, NGOs, and corporate consulting in Southeast Asia, Aarti brings a refreshingly honest perspective on why traditional human rights due diligence is failing to make a real impact. The conversation challenges the status quo of "compliance culture," revealing how Western standards and language often alienat...

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