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Rep. Eric Burlison on UAP material he saw inside SCIF and files he's forcing open | Reality Check

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In this episode of "Reality Check," Ross Coulthart sits down with Rep. Eric Burlison, the Missouri Republican and UAP Caucus member who has become one of the most active voices in Congress pressing the federal government to come clean on the phenomenon. Burlison describes the material he was shown inside an SCIF, footage and imagery that remain closed to the public, and recounts watching plasma-like orbs move with an intelligence and instantaneous acceleration the intelligence community itself cannot explain but speculate to be the same objects FBI field agents reported seeing when they responded to sightings at residential locations and a western military facility last December.The conversation turns to the machinery of secrecy, with Burlison arguing the Manhattan Project taught the government how to bury a program inside federally funded research centers, and detailing the interrogatories he has sent to MITRE, MIT Lincoln Laboratory, the CIA and the FBI, including a reel-to-reel recording of a U.S. Air Force general questioning MIT scientists about the 1952 Washington flyover that Lincoln Laboratory is now in the process of declassifying. Coulthart and Burlison weigh whether an 82-year-old secret can hold, why declassification never happens on its own and what it would mean for a congressman of deep faith to confront the ontological shock of disclosure. Burlison does not hedge on the stakes, telling Ross that revealing what is behind this would be the greatest revelation since Jesus Christ and offering his read on whether the Trump White House intends to deliver it.#UAPCaucus #UAP #disclosureCREDITS:Host: Ross CoulthartExecutive Producer: Andy GipsonEditorial Producer: Meagan OuradaSegment Producer: Christine JenkinsonAssociate Producer: Will TomasiResearch Producer: Rob JonesEditor: Kanyon LyonsOn "Reality Check," NewsNation Special Correspondent Ross Coulthart takes a fact-based approach to tackle everything from unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) to mysteries often missing from the headlines. More Reality Check: https://www.newsnationnow.com/podcasts-newsnation/reality-check-with-ross-coulthart/ Email your questions to [email protected] NewsNation is your source for fact-based, unbiased news for all Americans. More from NewsNation: https://www.newsnationnow.com/ Get our app: https://trib.al/TBXgYpp Find us on your screen: https://www.joinnn.com/CHAPTERS:00 Intro0:29 Going Around the Mainstream Media to Reach the Voters1:21 The Witnesses Who Came Forward, and Why They Deserve an Investigation1:45 What Draws Burlison to UAP, and the Skeptics Coming Around2:57 Inside the SCIF, the Material the Public Still Can't See3:43 What Burlison Was Shown, and How It Defies Conventional Flight5:13 When the FBI Responded, They Saw the Orbs Too5:54 Two Generals on 60 Minutes, and the Drones No One Could Identify7:01 "Does This Government Belong to the People?" Joining the UAP Caucus8:20 David Grusch, and Why Burlison Stands Behind Him9:25 Can a Secret Last 82 Years? The Manhattan Project Lesson10:23 Interrogatories to the FFRDCs, the Grassley Standard11:45 The Reel-to-Reel Lincoln Lab Is Declassifying12:59 MITRE, and the Question of Crash Retrieval13:56 A USAF General, MIT Scientists, and the 1952 Washington Flyover14:24 The 25-Year Rule, and Why Declassification Isn't Automatic14:56 More Letters Out the Door, From the CIA to Varginha16:22 "The Greatest Revelation Since Jesus Christ"16:55 Faith, Ontological Shock, and a Universe Bigger Than One Planet18:46 Where Does Trump Stand on Disclosure?20:03 Growing Interest, and a Bipartisan Note20:42 Outro

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