REPLAY: How Rev used email to regain favor after getting trashed by the New York Times (with Nick Gaudio) | Reputation “Rev”amped episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 18, 2025 · 26 MIN

REPLAY: How Rev used email to regain favor after getting trashed by the New York Times (with Nick Gaudio) | Reputation “Rev”amped

from Email Swipes | Email marketing teardowns for SaaS brands · host Nikki Elbaz | Email marketing strategist for SaaS brands

Check out Churn Flags – my new retention podcast – if you’re in SaaS: Apple • Spotify • YouTube • Other platformsShow notes♻️ This is a replay episode originally aired on Mar 14, 2024. I’m resurfacing it because – as much as we love fresh content – replaying smart ideas deepens the insights. And a second listen usually surfaces something you missed the first time ‘round. So, earbuds in — pen out. Let’s make this listen actionable. ♻️How do you win back public favor when the NY Times slams your company? They say no press is bad press, and for Nick, the NYT thumbs-down was just the opportunity he'd been waiting for. Here's how his overhaul of the Rev email program rebuilt brand equity, reinvigorated the dispirited team, and grew a cult-like following.Timestamps:(3:14) Why the New York Times slammed Rev – and how Nick took the opportunity to turn around the brand voice by the (sled) reigns(4:32) How they reduced risk pre-send(6:59) The follow up email that snowballed the campaign viral-ity(10:31) Why you shouldn’t plan an airtight content calendar(13:00) How Nick reapplied media principles and community building methodology to bust expectations(15:28) The benign violation theory that gives these emails their magic(19:19) The craziest job offer story that sounds too crazy to be true(22:23) Why Nick's favorite email lists change so frequentlyAbout our guestNick Gaudio is a native West Virginian, ENFJ, Ravenclaw, Scorpio, Wood Ox, and Chaotic Good. He's earned an MFA from The University of Michigan, as well as seven awards from the Press Association as a reporter. Nick has served as a writer and/or email expert for many companies, large to small, B2B to B2C, ecom to SaaS: including theCHIVE.com, Saatva, Rev, Infinite Ranges, RunYourPool, and most recently, Rattle. He lives in Austin with his very patient wife and three toddlers.Links from this episode:Take a look at the first email we’re talking about todayTake a look at the second email we’re talking about todayFollow Nick on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Plan more effective campaigns with my Email Playbooks or with my SaaS Success Pack.Free consult when you sign up to Kit (formerly ConvertKit) using this affiliate link. Terms and conditions here.Follow Nikki on LinkedInGet Nikki's email musings at ⁠nikkielbaz.com/subscribe ⁠

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