EPISODE · Feb 6, 2026 · 30 MIN
Reputation Is Currency: How Stakeholder Perception Builds (or Breaks) Your Business
from Homegrown Hustle · host Matthew Eickman
SUMMARY:In this deep-dive episode of Homegrown Hustle, host Matt Eickman sits down with Dr. Mike Porter, Clinical Professor of Marketing at the University of St. Thomas, to unpack the real mechanics of reputation management—beyond buzzwords and surface-level branding.Drawing from decades of experience in public relations, marketing strategy, and MBA education, Dr. Porter explains why reputation is not what you say—it’s what stakeholders believe, and how businesses of all sizes must strategically manage perceptions across customers, employees, media, competitors, and even regulators.This episode explores the PESO Model (Paid, Earned, Shared, Owned media), the difference between brand and reputation, how word-of-mouth actually works, why targeting everyone is a losing strategy, and how reputation directly translates into financial goodwill and long-term business value. Essential listening for founders, executives, marketers, and anyone building something that needs trust to scale.KEY TAKEAWAYS:Reputation is the management of stakeholder perceptions, not marketing slogansBrand is what you want people to believe; reputation is what they actually believeEvery employee influences reputation—not just customer-facing rolesThe PESO Model explains how paid, earned, shared, and owned media must work togetherWord-of-mouth must be earned, engineered, and supported by strategyTargeting everyone weakens reputation—focus on high-value stakeholdersEarned media and third-party credibility outperform self-promotionReputation directly impacts business valuation and goodwillBuying a business means inheriting its reputation—good or badPersonal reputation compounds over time, especially in tight business ecosystemsCHAPTERS:00:00 – Welcome to Homegrown Hustle00:41 – Meet Dr. Mike Porter & His Background01:22 – What Is Reputation Management?02:41 – Defining Stakeholders (It’s More Than Customers)04:12 – The PESO Model Explained (Paid, Earned, Shared, Owned)06:17 – Employees, Culture, and Internal Reputation07:02 – Why Word-of-Mouth Is Not a Strategy by Itself08:16 – Strategy vs. Tactics in Marketing Communication10:15 – Reputation for New Businesses: You Never Start at Zero12:24 – Why You Shouldn’t Try to Influence Everyone13:19 – Traditional PR vs. Influencers and Social Media15:00 – Credibility, Earned Media, and Third-Party Trust17:01 – Driving Traffic to Owned Media for Conversion18:21 – Creating an Environment That Enables Sales19:52 – Scaling Marketing as Businesses Grow21:34 – Reputation, Relationships, and Market Dynamics23:39 – Personal Reputation in Business Communities25:04 – Buying a Business and Inheriting Reputation26:15 – Goodwill, Valuation, and Reputation as an Asset27:19 – Learning From Lost Customers28:26 – Prioritizing the Stakeholders That Matter Most29:43 – Brand vs. Reputation (Mic Drop Moment)30:03 – Closing Thoughts & What’s NextGUEST RESOURCES:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-mike-porter-apr-fellow-prsa-he-him-2a033/Website: https://researchonline.stthomas.edu/esploro/profile/mike_porter/overview
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SUMMARY:In this deep-dive episode of Homegrown Hustle, host Matt Eickman sits down with Dr. Mike Porter, Clinical Professor of Marketing at the University of St. Thomas, to unpack the real mechanics of reputation management—beyond buzzwords and surface-level branding.Drawing from decades of experience in public relations, marketing strategy, and MBA education, Dr. Porter explains why reputation is not what you say—it’s what stakeholders believe, and how businesses of all sizes must strategically manage perceptions across customers, employees, media, competitors, and even regulators.This episode explores the PESO Model (Paid, Earned, Shared, Owned media), the difference between brand and reputation, how word-of-mouth actually works, why targeting everyone is a losing strategy, and how reputation directly translates into financial goodwill and long-term business value. Essential listening for founders, executives, marketers, and anyone building something that needs trust to scale.KEY TAKEAWAYS:Reputation is the management of stakeholder perceptions, not marketing slogansBrand is what you want people to believe; reputation is what they actually believeEvery employee influences reputation—not just customer-facing rolesThe PESO Model explains how paid, earned, shared, and owned media must work togetherWord-of-mouth must be earned, engineered, and supported by strategyTargeting everyone weakens reputation—focus on high-value stakeholdersEarned media and third-party credibility outperform self-promotionReputation directly impacts business valuation and goodwillBuying a business means inheriting its reputation—good or badPersonal reputation compounds over time, especially in tight business ecosystemsCHAPTERS:00:00 – Welcome to Homegrown Hustle00:41 – Meet Dr. Mike Porter & His Background01:22 – What Is Reputation Management?02:41 – Defining Stakeholders (It’s More Than Customers)04:12 – The PESO Model Explained (Paid, Earned, Shared, Owned)06:17 – Employees, Culture, and Internal Reputation07:02 – Why Word-of-Mouth Is Not a Strategy by Itself08:16 – Strategy vs. Tactics in Marketing Communication10:15 – Reputation for New Businesses: You Never Start at Zero12:24 – Why You Shouldn’t Try to Influence Everyone13:19 – Traditional PR vs. Influencers and Social Media15:00 – Credibility, Earned Media, and Third-Party Trust17:01 – Driving Traffic to Owned Media for Conversion18:21 – Creating an Environment That Enables Sales19:52 – Scaling Marketing as Businesses Grow21:34 – Reputation, Relationships, and Market Dynamics23:39 – Personal Reputation in Business Communities25:04 – Buying a Business and Inheriting Reputation26:15 – Goodwill, Valuation, and Reputation as an Asset27:19 – Learning From Lost Customers28:26 – Prioritizing the Stakeholders That Matter Most29:43 – Brand vs. Reputation (Mic Drop Moment)30:03 – Closing Thoughts & What’s NextGUEST RESOURCES:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-mike-porter-apr-fellow-prsa-he-him-2a033/Website: https://researchonline.stthomas.edu/esploro/profile/mike_porter/overview
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