EPISODE · Sep 9, 2025 · 12 MIN
Retargeting broken? Here's how to fix it
from Growth Masterminds: mobile growth podcast · host Singular
Retargeting is one of the most powerful but misunderstood tactics in digital marketing. Too often, it's broken and marketers don't even know it.In this episode, I sit down with Paul Kovalski, head of marketing at Self Financial and host of the Efficient Spend podcast. Paul has driven more than $200M in revenue through paid media, and he brings a unique perspective on what really works in retargeting.We talk about: • The difference between paid and unpaid retargeting • Why incrementality is the key metric that most marketers miss • How fintech retargeting is different from retail or e-commerce • Why sometimes education beats the hard sell • The role of automation, MMPs, CDPs, and real-time audience updates • The hidden risks of “set it and forget it” automated campaignsIf you’ve ever wondered whether your retargeting spend is truly moving the needle — or just padding platform reports — this conversation is for you.00:00 Introduction to Marketing and Retargeting00:29 Meet Paul Kovalski01:34 The Goal of Retargeting in FinTech01:58 Paid vs. Unpaid Retargeting Strategies04:05 Infrastructure for Paid Retargeting05:38 Effective Messaging and Creative Strategies07:01 Measuring Incrementality in Retargeting08:16 Challenges and Considerations in Retargeting10:10 Impact of iOS Changes on Retargeting11:51 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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