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EPISODE · Dec 5, 2025 · 48 MIN

Retired Managing Partner Tells the Truth About Starting in Law with Murray Gottheil

from Lawyer Launcher - Behind the Bar · host Susan Van Dyke

Behind the Bar – Lawyer Launcher Real advice from real experience — the things law school never told you.In this episode, Susan sits down with retired business  lawyer and former managing partner Murray Gottheil, known for his frank, funny, and refreshingly honest insights about the legal profession. From the “safety of retirement,” Murray shares the truths he wishes he’d known earlier — and the hard lessons he believes every law student, summer student, and new associate needs to hear before starting in a law firm.Together, Susan and Murray break down:The biggest mistakes new lawyers makeWhy confidence and self-awareness matter more than you thinkHow introverts (and extroverts!) can set themselves up to succeedWhat “ownership mentality” really looks like — and why partners value itHow to ask better questions without driving your supervising lawyer crazyThe hard truths about starting your legal careerYou know far less than you think after graduation — and that’s normalWhy legal success isn’t about hard work aloneThe reality of learning outside billable timeHow culture varies between firms, offices, and practice groupsWhy defining your own version of success is essential for long-term healthMurray also shares stories from decades in practice — from articling in the 80s, to hiring students, to mentoring young lawyers — with practical, actionable advice to help you thrive, not just survive.If you’re preparing for summering, articling, or your first year of practice, this episode will give you the insight (and perspective) you won't find in textbooks.Listen now and start building the leadership habits your future self will thank you for.Don’t forget to subscribe to Lawyer Launcher for more episodes that help you thrive in the legal profession.Episode notes:Law & Disorder Inc: https://www.murraygottheil.com/Murray Gottheil LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/murray-gottheil-58787b1/

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