Ladies and gentlemen, what for our show where you set 507? Woo! As always, I'm your host Justin Baker, and as always, I'm joined by Vibe with human Chris Saturn. Hi, Justin.
Hi. Saturn. It is, we've made it. It's so exciting because I talked about it on re-along the other day, but I got a new arm out for my microphone.
Yes. And it no longer just constantly tries to point itself as my wiener while we're recording. Well, once we get all the audio, we gotta pick up the B roll, so... You gotta pick up the B roll.
It's like, before, like, gradually the little microphone would just drift down until it finally just drop, and then I'd mute and set it back up, and then unmute and keep talking, and I don't have to do that anymore, and it's very... You're making me a little self-conscious about mine, because it is held up by Velcro strips. Like, wire strips. The cable is the Velcro strips, but the microphone itself was not.
No, no, I mean, I just have them like straps to all the arm elements to kind of hold it in place. No. It's kind of janks, maybe I should also upgrade. I went to a micro-center today because that's near my mom's doctor's office, and I was looking at their microphones, and they have this exact microphone stand that I got from Andrew, and it's apparently $60.
And then right next to it was basically the exact same one that I had before that I got from you, and it was $20. So this is apparently three times the cost of what I had before. And it's so nice. It's so very nice.
I might have to upgrade. How's it keeping? First of all, we do want to say we are recording this a week before the Nintendo Switch 2 direct. Yeah, so no.
So if you're like, you guys didn't mention the Switch 2, and I'm sure everyone's going to be very excited about it, it's because we're in the past. We were living in the past right now, so. And also next week we'll still be in the past because we record two episodes at a time. Yes.
So that will still be a week before the Nintendo Switch 2 direct, despite you listening to it a week after this one. But reminder, Retro Game Show, so I think that's being a past. It's a feature, not a bug. Exactly.
I also want to mention, at least my allergies are in full swing. Yeah. Because my sinuses are swollen so shut that breathing is labored in shall be till, I don't know, August. I felt like a crazy person leaving the the Tontam with three, six packs of Kleenex.
But it's important. It's unnecessary. I don't. I never drain.
I never get drained. I get drained. I get drained. It's just post nasal drip.
But what I get is it all just packs in there. And it's just like a solid mass that never comes out. I get both. Oh God.
Yeah. My wife and kid get adjusted while still draining. It'll be it's bone dry in there. And I can just feel my sinuses just swollen shut.
I'm like, I can't breathe. I don't blow my nose regularly every couple of minutes. Then I end up with like a bad cough the next day. It's just terrible.
Okay. Guys, now sending us private messages of pictures of grandfather clocks you can buy home depot. Oh, nice. We're on the pre-show.
Yeah. My week. Still doing the Xbox and Xbox 360 collecting. I think I'm kind of where I want to be on PS4 and PS3 for now.
Yeah. But $25,000 for that grandfather clock. Oh, that's nice. Is that all just $25,000 in all it does is tell the time and I have to wind it with a key?
This is great. How come all young people don't own these? That's a brand I've seen on the prices, right? So I don't think that's like normal consumer furniture.
Still in the Xbox and Xbox 360 collecting. I've been playing some Forza 4. Although today I actually deleted my campaign. Motorsport 4?
Motorsport 4. Okay. Which is still trapped on the 360 and I'll be restarting because I only deleted my safe. Good job.
Which I'll talk again in a minute. Also I played Mecha Salt 2 for the first time, which is the less celebrated sequel to Mecha Salt which is one of the best games on the original Xbox. And surprisingly good. I really thought it was going to be kind of bad.
People seem to really not like Mecha Salt 2 nearly as much as the first one. I think being a general Battle Tech fan helps because it's cool to get to use different armors and VTOLs and tanks and stuff. From the tabletop game you're not just stuck in the mech all the time. But I can see how someone who doesn't give a shit about Battle Tech stuff would be like, I just want to be in a mech all the time.
The only person I knew who was big in Mecha Salt 1 and 2 was he had come to Mecha Salt from Mech Warrior. Of course, Mech Warrior itself comes from Battle Tech. So he was several steps removed. Even though he had been a franchise fan for a while, he had never experienced the Origin.
Yeah. It's been fun. It's been fun. A fun game.
Also played some Jet Set Radio Future which I'd never put any time into that or Jet Grand Radio. I've just not ever. I came to them after the Tony Hawk games existed. Well, I mean they came out after the Tony Hawk games existed.
Well, yeah, I guess they did. Yeah, Tony Hawk was a huge one. 97-ish. And Jet Grand was, I want to say, 99 or 2,000.
99, 99 at least. And so it feels... I think the Dreamcast was 99 so I had to have been after that. Moving around feels just close enough to a Tony Hawk game that it messes with my brain.
But I think I'm finally kind of getting it a little bit, you know, and enjoying that sum. I guess that was the first game that I was super into on my Xbox. Yeah. I played a ton of that on Xbox.
So this leads into some issues. You had given me a 360 slim. Yes, apparently it was the one that my nephew had at my aunt's house that his friend apparently hacked the shit out of. And I went into...
I've had some issues with it. One, I opened up the hard drive slot to see what kind of hard drives in it. And it turns out after some software investigating that it is the say to drive ripped out of an original model Xbox hard drive and then just stuck loose dangling in the hard drive bay. Sweet.
But you can do because it's just a state of slot as long as it's a properly formatted Xbox drive, it'll read it. But it wasn't big enough for me to download all of my digital Xbox stuff, which I wanted to get all on this 360. Yeah, I've got a 500 gig on my 360. Yeah.
And so I go and I do some research and people are like, hey, if you get the... A lot of people sell cheap like $20, 500 gig hard drives for the 360 slim, but they're like knock off brands and everyone's like, they don't have the back-of-the-back-re-compatibility layer to play back-of-the-compatible games. And I was like, oh, well, I'll just go on eBay and find an OEM one. Yeah.
And I'm like, no, that's fine. That's enough to hold on my digital stuff. And it comes in and I'm like, all right, well, how do I transfer my ship to this hard drive? I was like, well, I'll just plug it into a SATA adapter and then plug it into USB.
And I'll just transfer myself over and then I'll swap the drives. And the same way we've been swapping drives since drives existed. Not in consoles, though. Yeah, that's the problem.
I plug it in and it says it's unformatted and I'm like, all right, well, I guess they wiped it before they send it to me. So format it and we'll copy my shit over. Come to find out that if you format via USB on a 360, it formats to a non-internal Xbox 360 compatible format. Of course.
Formats to record. I don't know what made you think it wouldn't. Why would it format to a different format than what it is? Because you're closing it in USB.
That doesn't matter. It's the same device. It's the stupidest shit. It's the same thing that a PlayStation would do as well.
And so then I learned that now that hard drive can never be used internally on a 360 ever. It is now ruined. There's no like image you can clone over to it? No, because the drives have a special security layer that is coded to their own serial numbers.
So if it is a certain version of those drives, then you can. But if it's a different brand because they use different brands internally, if it's a different brand, you can not mine was a C gate and you can only do that with Western digital speakers because they've not cracked the C gates yet. In the course of learning all of this that I've broke this drive, I learned that I can manually add the backward compatibility layer to one of these third party hard drives. I ordered a third party hard drive.
I add the compatibility layer and it works great. And I'm like, awesome. And the guy that I fucked the drive up on, let me return it. I'm like, oh, no harm to file.
This is all fine. That guy was nice. It's great. Cool.
And then the 360 begins freezing. And so I'm like, that's not good. And I'm like, but it had started freezing while I'm in the waiting period between drive. So I'm waiting on the 500 gig to come in.
I've got 320 going back. And I'm still just playing it, testing it because it has four gigs of internal storage. So I can stop my profile and play disc games, begins freezing. New hard drive comes in, continues freezing.
I do some basic troubleshooting, removing cache, stuff like that, still freezes. Maybe it's the game I'm playing, try a different game, still freezes. And then I realize it only freezes when it's reading from the disc drive. So I open it up, which is, I don't know if you ever open a 360 slam, it's a fucking nightmare.
It is. It is completely held together by clippies everywhere. I open it up, it's sparkling clean on the inside, shocking. I mean, no dust anywhere.
I open it up, I end up opening it up multiple times, troubleshooting it. I open up the, I just simply the entire CD drive. I clean and lubricate all of that. I pull off the heat sink.
I clean off the thermal paste and I re-paste it. I get into the whole motherboard out. I've cleaned everything, it's sparkling clean. Everything's lubricated.
Everything's got new thermal paste. It is still freezing. I'm like, all right, I need to replace the disc drive, I guess, because it only happens when it's reading a disc. Except Microsoft hard-coded H360 disc drive to that 360's motherboard.
Of course they did. Of course. Because fuck me, I guess. So this is all going on.
I'm like, so then I just start looking into like, what does a HAC 360 look like? Is this an option? Is this a thing? And I don't want to do that because 360 still works online.
I can still connect my profile and get achievements and like, you know, do the online thing. I have concerns that that super easy cheap USB hack now. Yeah, which I don't know. It seems like more of a pain than just RGH modding it.
But I get frustrated with it. I shelf it and I take out my original Xbox and someone in the chat had mentioned that you need to remove the real-time clock capacitor because it can leak and damage the board. So I'd open it up and I removed that capacitor and it had leaked. And so I end up having to pull the motherboard out of that and soak the whole thing in the sink and really scrub it down because it'd leak a lot.
But no damage, thankfully. That's good. And I notice I've got some bulging capacitors. And this is right after the 360.
I'm in this headspace of like shit, man. This one's not on its last legs, but it's on the path. You know, it's got bulging capacitors at RGHTC. You know, and so I'm like, man, maybe instead of putting money into collecting these games, I should put some money into having these systems set up in such a way that they will last for the long haul, which is my concern, right?
I just want to point out that guy private message to us. I'll show you a bulging capacitor. And so all this culminates in me doing more and more and more research. And my Xbox is currently in the mail going to a guy who's going to recap the entire thing, install a mod chip, install a full HDMI mod, and clean up our license and it back to me so that I can then have a forever Xbox that will accept any hard drive that I put into it and be able to format its own hard drive, works over FTP.
So I'm, I'm, it's the same trajectory I had on the GameCube, which you'll remember if in the middle of COVID, I was like, I started buying up some GameCube titles I didn't have before they got too expensive. And then I was like, I reached that point in its where I was with the Xbox, I was like, I've bought most of the really common stuff that I want to have. The only stuff that I'm still missing is the kind of expensive titles, the games that are like 20, 50, 70, 80, 90, $100 each. And so I can either buy a couple of those at a time, slowly over the months and hope they don't get too expensive in the meantime, or I can take that same amount of money, mod it, and then just put those games like, get forward on the hard drive and be done with it.
Yeah. And so that's kind of where I've landed on it. But my hope is that my, my long term plan is Xbox first, then I'm going to figure out what I want to do the 360. You have another one because you apparently have a pile of them that I'm going to try and see if that one works, if it does cool.
And then I think also I might go ahead and do the hard drive, say the hard drive mod for my PlayStation 2 and just kind of get some consoles in modern working order for the long haul because, you know, we talk about all the time on the show, but the more time goes on, like these systems that are often, in my case, sitting in closets and stuff are slowly eroding. Yeah. You know, they're going out. Things are leaking, capacitors are bulging, things are breaking, just sitting there.
And I think I'm, I'm thankfully, I've not waited too long, but I'm at a point where it's like, hey, I really should get this shit worked out while, while one, the age bracket is correct that it's popular to mod out your Xbox and PS2. Because 10 years from now, like whoever is in my shoes now probably won't give a fuck about these systems and there will be less availability of mods and services. There's, there's still plenty of people that are modding, you know, NES and Super NES and that's true. They're 20 years older than that.
I just suspect that as the timeline advances forward, you can find people that'll mod Atari still. I don't know. I just don't, I don't feel it being the same. I don't feel like the PS3 is going to be as evergreen as the Super Nintendo here in 10 years, 15 years, probably just because it'll be harder to fix than a Super Nintendo.
Very possibly. Very possibly. Because the Super Nintendo used a lot more off the shelf stuff than a PS3 did. I don't want to bank on that being the case, you know, in me going out, fixing 10 years, right?
Especially with waves of weird things like chip shortages and stuff that seem to occur. Yeah. So all this to say, I'm in a mode of trying to my goal by the end of the year is I want to have my 360, my Xbox and my PS2 all working fully modded, HDMI out, wireless controllers all set up so I can take them off the shelf, plug them in, enjoy them and then put them away. Yeah.
And I forgot to say how I lost my fort to save is I was like, all right, how is 360 emulation? And it's better than I remember it being. Watch some videos on it. Supposed to be pretty good.
And you can just drag stuff straight off your 360 hard drive plugged into VS SATA through some software and just play those games. And so I did that and I was like, well, I want my save too. And I tried to bring my fort to save over. And when you move it off of your cloud saves on 360, you have to move it.
You can't copy it. And in the hassle of trying to get it to work in the zenia 360 emulator, I accidentally deleted it. So now I have to start my campaign over, which is why I like having these discrete consoles. It's why I like the mini consoles.
I like my saves, locked away on some hardware where I'm not going to fuck with them in Lusam. That's why I like that. I want it to be locked into this little metal box that I'm not going to accidentally delete some shit because I'm dumb. Yeah.
Anyway, that was my very, very long week. What have you been doing Saturn? You know that one meme of the guy trying to hold all the limes? Yes.
That's me with Xbox 360. I just have too many of them. Look, I'm happy to relieve you of the stress of having too many 360s. Once you take this next one, I'll be down to just mine and then I can be done with it.
Well, take your time. Make sure it fucking works because man, I'm like flies. No, my mind is hooked up to my TV all the time. So anyway, so since we were talking about all the modded systems I did spend some time this week with my Super NES because my Super NES is properly modded.
I've got one Super NES that's not modded, but it's a original model and it's a yellowed shit and it's not, yeah, I don't like it. But my Super NES Junior, my mini is modded. I've got the RGB mod in there. I've got a little power light mod on there.
And now I've got my off-brand FX pack pro in there. And also I've got a Bluetooth 8bit.0 SM30 on there. So it's as nice of a Super NES as I can imagine having and I was playing around on there. It's just nice having all the games on one card so I never have to go change cards anymore.
That's just convenient. I still have all my cards. I should probably start selling them while they're still grossly overpriced. Especially now that I have a flash card, but it is nice.
But anyway, also I played through all of the first week Odin on the Night's Demaster. It is still a game going air quotes, I think. Yeah, that's my only real issue of my complaint as the remaster. The game itself, I still really enjoyed it.
It always, so we couldn't always feels like somebody took the CliffsNotes of a much bigger RPG and then turned it into a play and then wrote out the script and gave it to a bunch of freshman drama students who are still learning how to perform a play. Yeah. If you can imagine what the bigger picture is that the game is trying to tell you, it's a neat story, but just going by the text of it, it's very, very, very basic. Yeah.
You constantly feel like you're just hearing, Grimeo, wait for me, young master. No, you don't need to say Grimeo, that's just your character's name. Grimeo, I will make separate. No, dude, you don't.
Anyway. I've also been playing it and it feels, on the one hand it's refreshing because when they do still, it's almost like I have a PTSD from JRPGs where they're like, oh, we need to do such and such and like I'll focus on a 10 hour side quest. And they're like, that's right here. And you're like, oh, okay.
Then also they won't shut up. You know, you're like, you're saying nothing and it's so short and everything's pretty succinct, but also you talk a lot. It's very weird. I tend to speed read through all those text boxes.
I'm like, I'll get the gist. It's like, it's like for such a short game, it still has a decent amount of fluff. It's just actual hours wise. There's not much of it.
No, no, it's really not. It goes by pretty quick. It's a pretty speedy game. I think I spent just as much hours of game time playing Little Dice mini game in order to have enough money to afford everything as I did playing the game itself.
But it's still good. I still enjoy SuiCoden is aged well. And then as I finished it, I went right into SuiCoden too since it's also on there. And immediately realized that despite the fact that I played through SuiCoden one many times and played through SuiCoden two once, I've tried to restart it several times and just didn't get to it.
But despite the fact that I've only ever played through SuiCoden two once, all of my nostalgia is in SuiCoden two. Like as soon as I saw the characters, I was going to celebrate the game for sure. Oh yeah. Like all of it hit my nostalgia like hard.
Like I was feeling all those vibes like, oh, this is the one, this is the one I need to be playing right now. Yeah. Also, it has all the quality of life improvements that inexplicably they did not add to the first game in the remaster. God damn it.
I don't understand why. Thanks, Conan. Because they're all right there. You could have just moved them over.
But I wouldn't be authentic. My number one complaint with it that I've come to so far is I use the in-game manual a lot. One, because there's just a world map on it. And two, because the game really doesn't explain this mechanics, which is nice.
It means I can just go read it on my own pace. But there's no zoom function. Oh, I've not even looked at the in-game manual. It's on my TV across the fucking room.
And there's no zoom. It's like this tiny shittily- Is it just like a PDF of the original manual? No, it's like an HTML web page. It looks like a virtual console manual.
You've got to look at it. It's bad. I don't know if the sequel manual is bad, but probably the same. Go back to the first one and look at it.
I'll have to take a look at that. It's not bad. I keep having to lean forward and squint. What the fuck is that?
Because I'm 15 feet away on my couch. I just pulled out my strategy guide from back in the day. I was like, this is a maps. No, I don't have anything.
Well, you could. No. I want to do an all-in game. The strategy guide for the second game is only like $250.
Oh, is that all? Let's do it. Let's jump on it. Let's do some news.
Yeah. My 25 is made to their own ad-free wiki for the game, which is nice. Good. I think the VSWICKI is on fandom, isn't it?
It makes it. The other one is on fandom which is just awful. Good, buck them. An authorized Atari service center is still in operation.
After 41 years and still has some parts for Classic Atari consoles. Yeah. If you need to get your Atari service, then don't wait. I hear you were just saying that...
It was. Time for those things that's going away. But no, apparently. You know there's something about when you start including specific disk drives and hard drives that I feel like, you're going to run into trouble.
Oh yeah, especially since the manufacturers themselves are trying to wrap up service on these things as quickly as possible now. Like Nintendo service the NES for what, 30 years. And the 3DS are like, oh, we're already out of parts, sorry. Yep, I have a strong feeling that it is the, like basically what you said, it is the simplicity of these systems that makes part of the ability easy.
When it's like, now it needs to be a hot, it's hard drive from this year range with locking capabilities. You're like, oh fuck. No, it has to be a GD-ROM drive. Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Xbox 360 can now be self-moded with flash drive, which is cool. It does go away anytime the system loses power, which doesn't really fit my use case. But that's the same as my PSP mod. I have to do that every time I reboot.
Yeah, my PSP, if I'm using it, usually I'll leave it in sleep mode and plug in whenever I'm taking breaks or setting it down for the day. So it doesn't get hard rebooted very often. My systems do, they get fully unplugged and taken out of the entertainment console because I've only got one flex slot. So whatever like retro system I'm enjoying that week goes in that little flex slot.
Right. And also the 360 doesn't have a sleep mode. Yeah, so it just turns out, which that kind of sucks. Also, you have to exploit, you have to try it multiple times in most cases.
So it's like, oh, you reboot it now, you have to exploit your system multiple times. For people to know. No, no, the RGH mod for the RGH 3 mod for the 360 is not like, if you know someone that solders, it's not too bad. It really is not.
So if it's something you're into, look into it. But if you want to play with the soft mod, play with some homebrew, it could be a fun afternoon and then leave all your stuff stock after a reboot. So that could be nice. Yeah.
The Finreer ODE can now stream Saturn ISO's to the console via Wi-Fi, which is an exciting new thing. Right, that's neat. The mod chip I'm getting in my Xbox can do that too. And I can't decide if I want to put in a hard drive or just do it on the network.
I'm not sure where I want to go with it. All Steam Deck models will now allow Bluetooth controllers to wake the device from sleep. One of the most asked for features of this system. Yeah.
Very excited. So exciting for me, especially now that I have that nice horror Steam controller. Yeah, just wake up my Steam Deck because I only ever use a dock. So it's very helpful.
A fan made remake of Counter Strike 1.6 called CS Legacy as entering Steam Early Access soon, which I'm excited for. I'm hoping you could explain what this means to me because I don't want it. So Counter Strike 1.6 is the old version of Counter Strike. And then they came out with a new version called Go.
Oh, I thought that was a sequel. Yeah, I mean, it's a sequel in as much as it is a new game and a new engine, but it's still kind of just Counter Strike. I was just confused by them specifying 1.6. Well, yeah.
So that was like a specific version of the original that maybe they had 1.7 and 1.8 or something. As far as I know, it's the last version of the original. OK. So they're just remaking the original?
Yeah. Well, some people like earlier revision, which is like 1.4. You know how people get with their online games? They're like, no, I like this exact revision where grenades bounced exactly like this off of a wall or, you know.
Yeah, I'm not one of those people. So no, I don't understand about it. But 1.6 is basically there's old Counter Strike. And then there's a new Counter Strike, because they took away go and turned it into Counter Strike 2, because we can't keep things or preserve them.
So really, there's only 2 Counter Strikes. Not for online games anyway. As far as Valve is concerned, there's 2 Counter Strikes. There's an old one, and there's a new one, and this is old one.
That should be good. Fans have ported Fantasy Star 2 to the Commodore Amiga. So the one guy who refuses to upgrade from his Amiga can finally play one of the best Fantasy Star games. So I kind of want to load it up on my 8, 400 mini.
Yeah, just see how it is. There are 800 mini. I don't remember what number it is anymore. PlayStation brand founder, Ken Kururagi, has revealed that he still has a working Super Famicom PlayStation just fucking kicking around in his house.
Just like everyone is. It looks less yellow than the other one. Yeah, he got a good plastic. So I read the quote and he's like, yeah, I think I got one of those.
It was so weird. Yeah. And he just was like, yeah, to my close it. At no point was he like, people might care about this.
Right. 2025, you're like, oh, you guys give us shit? Like, yes, dude. I think part of it was he worked for Sony for most of that time, and there was probably some NDA and everything, and he couldn't just present this.
But now that he is, I think he's an iron. I think we do it like he is. Yeah. And so now he's like, well, now that I don't have to deal with Sony's bullshit anymore.
I can show you all this cool thing. Atari announces my play watch, a watch with basic fitness tracking that lets you play CineP, Pong, Missile Command, or Super Breakout on a teeny tiny screen attached to your wrist while sending your data to whatever third party company they've hired to do the fitness tracking. I don't think it's online. Oh, is it not at all?
No, I think it's a completely offline. Like, all it is like a step counter. It's like as much as its fitness tracking is a step counter. And maybe it has like pulse or something, but it's all like.
That's a little more exciting. Yeah, it's not a smartwatch at all. The news article I saw about it called it a smartwatch. But then when I looked into it, I was like, no, that's a dumbwatch that just happens to have some cool features.
Hey, I'll tell you what. I'll take a dumbwatch. That's just a heart rate monitor. I use a heart rate monitor on my watch.
It's like 90% of what I use it for. I wear it and I put it on to work out. And then I take it off. The thing that I appreciate the most about it is in order to play these games, you use the crown of the watch as if it is a dial on an arcade machine.
And that's really cute. I came in skeptical, but I'm kind of curious. Yeah. ESA members have announced a new initiative to address accessibility messaging.
Microsoft Nintendo and EA have already voiced their support. I'm very excited about this initiative. Yeah, that's good. It lists things on the back.
Like if there are adjustable difficulty options, a lot of things that like when I'm shopping for games for my nine year old, it's like, how much reading is in this game? Or is there an easy mode? Like stuff that is not strangely easy to find about a lot of games. And also mentions a lot of accessibility options for blind modes and sound.
And it's very nice. I'm very excited about all of this. I've always been a fan of more accessibility for everyone. Yeah.
So seeing this becoming easier to track and easier to, just for people to know before they spend money on a game, without just having to ask someone else who has bought the game first. That's great news. All over this. Yeah.
Retro Games' full size Amiga replica has been delayed due to legal action. As said. Not shocked, but sucks. Yeah, and they've put out several of these old Commodore systems, the 64 and the previous Amiga Mini that I have that I referenced a minute ago.
But they, in the past, have just not used the official brand names. They've not called them Commodore. They've not called them Amiga. And they've gotten away with it.
But apparently, now finally, somebody is being an asshole about it. The tigess about it. Yeah. Four Super NES CoA strategy games are added to Nintendo's which online, including Romance Four while the fire, right?
Which is on everything. Yes, it is on everything. Romance Four is usually the first game added to Virtual Console on every Nintendo console. You know, it's frustrating.
And so I was surprised that it took this long. Is most of the other Romance games are goddamn hard to find. Quit giving us Romance Four. Right.
Stop. That has to be the most popular one in Japan or something. And most of the Romance 13 was the one that I always enjoyed. And we were all into, but I don't shit, man.
Apparently, Romance Four is fucking in. Yeah. And finally, a leaked image of the Xbox user interface showed a tag for Steam games leading to speculation of possible Steam integration. The image was probably removed and replaced after an outlet asked about it.
Yeah. So I don't know this with shock, any of this. I think it would be cool. Yeah.
It's hard. And I struggle with where Microsoft is, where it's like, I love the idea of like, we want everything on everything. We want everyone to have everything accessible. We want platforms integrated.
But then I also struggle with the fact that they're like, yeah, we're moving away from physical, discrete releases, we're shying away from discrete hardware. Like I'm torn. And also if they're adding Steam to it, it begins to question what even is Xbox hardware at that point? Saturn, everything is an Xbox.
Right. It gets a Steam deck. But Steam deck is an Xbox already. Yeah.
It's less enticing to have an Xbox if everything can be an Xbox. Why bother to buy an Xbox? So it is, I'm both excited because it is good to have integration of all these things. But I am also concerned because that kind of just puts the last nail in the Xbox coffin.
It's tough. I was talking to my wife. It's kind of tangent before we get to the topic at hand. But I was talking to my wife about, I was getting my Xbox modded.
And I was like, you know how I did my GameCube? We're like, everything's on an SD card. So I don't need any of my games. And I had this moment where I was like, come to think about I don't know why I still own all my GameCube games.
But then when I was talking to the guy about modding it, I was like, hey, it's going to leave my disk drive intact. And he's like, I mean, if it works, it'll still work after we modded, but why do you want it? And I was like, well, I still enjoy the ritual of taking a game out and putting a disk in my system. Not all the time.
Sometimes I just want convenience. And I want to just lump it on the couch and have hot key commands to go back to the menu and jump into different games. But sometimes I want to have the experience. And I was talking to my wife about how a lot of modern technology kind of efficiency aways the bespoke nature of a lot of things.
And it becomes a thing where you're sort of creating fake rituals that don't really do anything except it gets you in a headspace. You know, these things were different hobbies and stuff. And they have the, you know, I guess what I'm trying to say is Xbox losing their identity a bit is objectively good in the realm of like accessibility, having things being able to use things the way you want. But there's also that sort of that loss of identity and what a little amount of, I don't want to say humanity.
But yeah, yeah, it's just it's strange. It's like, yes, everything already has a computer. There's no reason you can't boot up fucking Ubuntu on your Xbox and load steam and play pro-ton games. There's no reason you can't.
And I'm kind of annoyed I can't. But I don't know. There's a little bit of loss of identity as everything sort of merges into this big giant efficiency based tech blog, you know, which I know kind of goes against some of our messaging. Right.
Not to make a tangent of your tangent. But you're talking about the ritual of inserting a cartridge and everything. Have you watched Slope's Game Rooms two hour documentary about the Super SEGA yet? No.
Oh my god. He's showing all the different videos of this lying liar talking about the Super SEGA console, which we've talked about and what a disaster that is. But at one point, one of his videos showing off the console shows him put the cartridge into his fake PCB thing. And then he tries to turn it on.
Nothing happens. He turns it off. He takes out the cartridge and blows in it, puts it back into his fake thing, turns it on. And then there's like a quick jump cut to suddenly the game playing on the TV.
I think and we talked about this on our shows previously is that I think what you need to come down to is accept that your hobby has some rituals and non-efficient identifiers that make it enjoyable to you. Like when we talk about like wrong curation, don't just load every North American release PS2 game on your PS2. Pick the ones you like curate it a little bit. You know, and that little bit of human touch does make a difference.
You know, and I just I guess that I worry that Microsoft is going to lose that little human touch with their push into everything is everything and everything is AI now. Welcome to Copilot. And it's like, no, no, no, that's not what we meant. We were like everything should be everywhere.
That's not what we meant, please. Yeah, they added copilot to the Xbox, right? Jesus Christ. Which brings us to the top again.
Speaking of the future being destroyed by AI. Which is Resident Evil. Yeah, synopsis is a look back at the freshman entry into the Resident Evil series of films. Oh, no.
Yes, right again. This is our April Fool's episode. It won't come out on April 1st. So hopefully that'll make it extra tricky.
Come on. Some time in April. Some time in April, we're going to fool you. The uncuts will get it pretty close to April first.
They will. You will. So uncut people, you've been appropriately April's fooled slightly early, but you know, whatever, you know, so yeah, this is our April Fool's episode. So we are doing.
She says sunglasses. We're doing the first Resident Evil movie because the game is too spooky for me. But the movie is too stupid for everyone. You know what?
In fairness, the first game is pretty stupid these days too. That's true. If you go back and play it, it's it's pretty goofy. You got the Jill Sandwich.
Yeah. You got that whole opening in for a cinematic, which is so great. It's the it's some of the best cinema ever recorded. I did.
This game did cause me to be like, maybe I should really look back. The Resident Evil game is I went back and played the PS4 version of the Resident Evil GameCube remake. Oh, the PS4 port of the game. Yes.
Yes. Because it was on. I think it was on PS Plus or whatever. Yeah, probably.
And I just so not fun. I was having still a little spooky. I played it really. Yeah, it's a little spooky.
Guess I'm vibes. And I was playing for a little bit. And it's just. But the PS1 version, though, I don't think the spooky is still there because it's so goofy and dumb.
I was having a really hard time getting through it. And I was like, I don't know. It's so pretty spooky. I still enjoy that one.
That one's my preferred way to play Resident Evil 1. Just because it's still got the spooky. But we're here to talk about Resident Evil. The film.
This had the actual debut on March 15, 2002 is distributed by Screen Gems, which is the division of Sony Pictures, and Constantine Film, directed by Paul. Here's Screen Gems. I always think about Green Acres. Green Acres.
Why Green Acres? Because at the end of every episode of Green Acres, you'd hear John Gabor say, a Screen Gems production darling. Oh, yeah. It's been minutes.
I watched it's Green Acres. Well, look, my childhood was filled with Nick at night. And so I was trained. This was unfortunately directed by Paul W.
Sanderson, director of Event Horizon, Mortal Kombat. Saturn wrote Alan versus Predator. Which is my favorite guy named Alan versus the Predator. I think he's an accountant or something.
Hold on, Alan. You just see Predator noises in the fucking face. In the fucking face. And also who did Monster Hunter, which, in anticipation of this, Andrew and I started the Monster Hunter movie while I was over at his place.
And I don't know that I've ever seen something get the tone so wrong in my entire life. Like, you know how Monster Hunter is a fantasy video game about a gleeful cooperation and silliness and running around and overcoming that. Cooperatively overcoming the odds with your friends and getting cool armor. So of course, the movie is a very heavily Afghanistan war inspired military drama with body horror, right?
Yeah, it's Mad Max, right? That makes fucking sense. Jesus Christ. This was my first encounter with this film.
I think I've seen bits of some of the later ones, but I've never seen this one. You've seen laser scene, though, right? I feel like I have like in YouTube clips or something. I don't know that I've sat and watched it in some totality.
I early in the film, I got very excited. And I've got my notes here. And I was taking a tally of nipples and decapitations. Yes.
And by the end of the film, I was very disappointed. Because there's only two of each. There are two nipples and two decapitations in this whole film. And that was very upsetting to me.
And you told me, no, there are any dute nipples and I had to think about it. No, no male nipples. I saw two female nipples and that was it. And they were both at the same time.
They were together as a pair. Yeah. And then two caps. Oh, there's more than two.
You missed some then. Yeah, there are. I don't know how you missed any. Yeah.
So this was my first encounter with it. I don't know that ever saw this one. I think I've seen a bit of the third one. I don't know.
Well, speaking of you trying the HE remaster of the GameCube port. Yes. This movie came out a few months before the GameCube game. Oh, OK.
So timeline wise, that's where we're at. When this came out, me and my friends were super into this and me were just super, super excited about it. So my friends had just finished playing Code Veronica because they didn't have a drink test. And so they were having to wait for the PS2 port.
And so they were playing that. And I had just gone back and revisited the PS1 games. Because I didn't play them when they came out. I didn't play most of them until the drink test.
So for me, I was going through the entire series basically at once. And then the movie came out. And we were all super excited. And my friends went and saw it in the theater without me while I was at work.
And they chose to go to the theater at the mall where I worked across the hall from where I worked. So they went and saw it. And then immediately came to my store. It's really good.
We're going to go again with you tomorrow or the next day. I was like, all right, good. And then I happened to get a call from my mom about something. I don't know why while I was at work.
And so I was talking with her on my lunch break and telling her. Well, I want to see the zombie movie. I'll come see it with you. And so she met me at the mall when I got off work.
And then we went and saw Resident Evil. And then she went home and I went home. And then the next couple of days I went and saw it again with them. And then the DVD came out and we watched it a bunch more times.
It's not a good movie. No. But it was exactly what we wanted from a Resident Evil movie in 2002 because we were late teenagers, early 20 some things. And that was apparently appropriate for us at that time.
Resident Evil was in a different place in 2002 than it was now. Yeah. Well, this was pre-rezzing before. Yes.
This is before the big shift. The beginning of a series of shifts. Oh, yeah. Because it's a high-resignable franchise.
Resident Evil was still kind of a Hokies-omb-y franchise with anti-corporate overtones. And that was basically all it was. And then RE4 comes out and suddenly it's this international thriller of parasites and shit. So it was a very different thing at that point than it was prior to RE4.
Step us quickly through the development before we get to the cast and plot. Yeah. So the games came out. There were games of Resident Evil.
Did I put Resident Evil 3 anywhere in here? Put Resident Evil 1? Resident Evil 3? No, you did not.
I don't think I did. Obviously Resident Evil made famous by the TV show spaced, which means future briefly. Yeah. As everyone knows.
Yeah, that's where everyone learned about. That's what's up. So the first game did pretty well. They were working on the sequel.
And while they were working on the sequel, German film production company, Constantine Film, approach Capcom to acquire the rights to produce a film based on the game. And Capcom famously at the time anyway, advertised the upcoming film with a contest that was advertised right on the cover of the PS1 release of Resident Evil 2 that said that you could become an extra in the upcoming film. And that's how everybody learns that there was a film. In production.
And there was some script work done in 1997, 1998 during Resident Evil 2's production. All those early scripts were rejected. A producer at Sony Pictures says the original drafts were good, but they didn't want to release a movie of the first game after the second game had already released, because they felt like that would confuse audiences or upset audiences or whatever. I don't think it would have, but OK.
So they threw away all those. And then because the games were so clearly based on his work, Capcom had hired George Romero, the creator and director of Night of Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead and all that. The zombie guy. Yeah.
The guy who basically popularized modern zombies. And they hired him to direct a TV commercial for the PS1 release of Biohazard 2 in Japan. And Sony Pictures saw that commercial in Japan. And they asked Romero if he wanted to write a direct movie.