Retro Warriors 527 - Kirby

Ladies and gentlemen welcome to our two winners of 527. Woo! As always I'm your host Justin Baker and as always I'm joined by Vibeble human Chris Saturn. Hi Justin.

Hi Saturn. We've arrived. Yo, yo, yo, it's going. It's going.

It's going. It's been a busy week. My kid's back in school so it's not early in the mornings. It feels so early in the year for school.

I mean I'm mid-August like that's, that's... I guess it's mid-August. It still feels like early August. No, it's the 14th.

Yeah. Our first day was the 12th though, you know, it's one of those things. I still have some of my ear books from elementary school. And back then my school would always print what the first day of the next year of school would be on the last page.

It'd be like, we'll see you back on whatever date. And for one of them I think it was like my second or third grade one. It was like, we'll see you back on September 7th. That is not the case anymore.

No. No, no, no. So yeah, I've been having to get up early in the morning and do all that shit. But you know, it's just been a week and I'm out of town this weekend so it's been crazy.

You know, crazy times. Anyway, my week. No. Even though, so we record in batches and we try to do these chronologically.

So since we go two weeks between recording, normally when we talk about our weeks on the first episode, we talk about what we did kind of in the first week between recordings and the second week and the second week between recordings. But I'm moving this one up because I want to inform anybody that maybe also wants to play with me. I started or returned to, I guess, tech, very technical to Final Fantasy 11. It had come up in the chat and I kind of been wanting to name him lately, but I didn't want to go back to EverQuest and because everyone I was playing with is inevitably vastly outlevelled me and I have to make new friends and I want to do that.

And then I even started installing WOW and then was like, what am I fucking doing? Like, wow. And so I kind of was flip-flopping there a little bit. But Final Fantasy 11 had come up in the chat and I was like, you know, I should try it.

I haven't tried it since 2012 was the last time I tried it. Well, at least that's what my account implies. I thought I had tried it again since then since living in this house, but I don't know. I either there was no record or I did not.

Or you use a different account somehow. Or you use a different account or maybe I'd use that same account and so it doesn't show anything from later. It just shows their creation in 2012. Anyway, I'm playing Final Fantasy 11 and I'm, I don't know, a dozen hours in, maybe more.

Which back in the day would have meant that you were still in the first town? No, yeah. Now I'm level 38 now. Hey.

38 Black Mage, 21 Thief, 20 Warrior is my current job boosting. But yeah, so I didn't know this. They added a thing called Trusts, which basically is on demand NPCs that you can summon. I think once you get all of your trust slots unlocked, you can have up to six of them.

It's kind of like, what do they call it in 14? They also have the... They also have the... In the overall, the only thing you get is your chocolate companion.

Okay. So this is kind of the... The... It's the same idea, but you can summon them anywhere.

So when you're doing just zone leveling, you can run around with a full party. And the game really gives you a shit load of them really early on. It's like, here's a bunch of them and then here's login points to go get more. So you effectively have a full NPC party accessible to you at all times.

And so that makes the game a lot easier. On top of the normal quality of life stuff that they've kind of layered on to it over the past 20 years. And I've been following the new player guide on the wiki and having a really good time with it. I've been really genuinely interested in it.

I've been really interested in it. I've been really interested in the game. I was really interested in the wiki and having a really good time with it. I've been really genuinely enjoying it.

I forgot how once you strip away all of the insane difficulty and bullshit, it's a pretty fun job system. My only real complaint with it back in the day was just having to wait forever to form parties. It's so long. Yeah, so difficult.

Yeah, yeah. It really kind of removes that. The downside is a little less social, despite its nature. I've still had some good chats with people and added some people to my friends list and joined a link shell and stuff.

But since everyone has NPC parties, there's no real impetus to play with other humans. So with that said, if anyone is playing Final Fantasy XI or was thinking about returning to returning to Final Fantasy 11, then I'm on Bahamut, and you can come play with me, and it's a good time. And I will play with you, and we will have fun. I did learn that you can party with other people, and still summon your trusts.

Yeah, so you can have- You have tried that. Really giant parties, yeah. I mean, you're still maxed out at six people in a party, though. I don't, I think that is still the case with trusts, but I don't know for sure.

Because I thought I might have missed read. I thought you unlocked eventually six trust slots, which with you would be seven people, including your player. Well, I might also just use all your trust slots if there's another human in the party. Maybe, maybe.

I'm not sure. Now, I was using, when I was, we played, and I used four, and then we would have been six. So once you get trusts, I'd be interested to see if we can break six. I don't know.

I believe six is max party size in 11. I think so too, but also trusts are weird, so I have no idea. But I will say the game is a quarter century of solid updates and content. So there's a shitload to decipher.

It's a big giant knotted ball of confusing yarn. I still have the strategy guy that was printed in 2003, so that's helpful, right? That's fucking useless. But I am in that kind of old school, in my most sense, having a really, really good time with them.

I'm kind of shocked how good of a time. I went into it being like, yeah, I'll probably play it for a week and they get bored, and I'm really enjoying it. So anyone who's been thinking about it, come jump in, we can make a link shell for the Discord or something and play and not know what the fuck we're doing. Have a good time.

Also still pecking away at Trails of Cold Steel in the tiniest, I mean, most of microscopic increments. And enjoying it well enough, it is a game, and I've played so little that I really can't even say. I'll sit down and play it for like 20 minutes. Have you played enough to even remember the characters' names between sessions?

I don't remember right now, because I've played it in a week. I don't remember any of their names right now. But they do repeat their names constantly like Pokemon, first and last names, so that's annoying and useful, I guess. And sometimes in battle, they will call out each other's names if they are partnered.

Yeah, so, you know, is what it is. I also played Andrew Kimover, I mean him and my daughter, I'll play Brotato, which I maintain is still the best all ages multiplayer game ever. It's so much fun. It's not bad.

It's better than Bomberman. I like Brotato more than Bomberman. You'll have to be wrong. It's okay.

Because Bomberman, Brotato is cooperative, and I don't like, I want to be cooperative in all of my multiplayer endeavors. I want to play against humans, because I'm anxiety. Bomberman is one of the few times where I don't mind playing against humans, because I'm just as likely to blow myself up as anyone else. So it feels more like organized chaos than it does like an actual competition.

You're also really good at Bomberman, so that helps. Also, I think I forgot to mention on the show, I picked up and played a few hours of Neverwinter Nights 2 enhanced edition that just recently came out. I think Bean Dog is still doing it, pretty sure of them. And it's Neverwinter Nights 2, which is a huge pain in the ask.

It's run on modern computers, so it works. But it's also still, like Neverwinter Nights 2 is kind of a janky game even when it came out. And they make it run true to what Neverwinter Nights 2 was. It was just still kind of weird and jank, you know?

But it's a good time. I played through a few sections I've gotten out of the starting village. I took on a thief stronghold. I've done a couple of little quests.

I've built my party up. And it's a good time. If you'd like to never win Neverwinter games, and you never got to play Neverwinter Nights 2, I think it's worth looking at. It's pretty cool.

Definitely technologically, just presentation wise, a step up over the original game by quite a bit, which is nice. And that's it. Is that what you were even playing? Oh, you think I've been playing things.

Yeah, you've been playing them video games? Yeah. I'm still chipping away at Shadow Labyrinth. You were Luke Warm last recording set.

So I have so many conflicting emotions on it. Because it's super charming. It's really super charming. But it's also really difficult.

Well, it's not even that difficult. It has that very deliberate combat style where you can't just like mow through enemies as you walk through a room. You have to stop and fight each one and dodge and block and all that shit. I don't like that in a platformer.

And of course, it has the dodge roll and the Estus flasks that refill every time you get to a save point. And all the very dark, soullsy stuff, which I am also not a fan of. But the actual moment to moment, a search action gameplay is neat. But also the map design is terrible.

Like whoever designed this map is clearly never designed a search action map. And they're not good at it. All right. And so I'm conflicted because it's super charming.

But I don't think it's a good game. Yeah. And that's kind of ruining it. Maybe you would say it's an interesting game?

Yeah, it is definitely interesting. You're not going to come to for really good design. But maybe it's just interesting. Yeah, it isn't to have the little Pac-Man elements mixed in, where you just randomly become Pac-Man.

And that's cute. But it's attached just not a great game. And that's, I don't think I can recommend it. It's certainly not a full price.

I can't recommend it. It's not. Yeah. It's 30 bucks?

Full price? I think it was 40. That might have been a good idea to import it. If it was like $14.99 or other, I would have bought it day one.

But it came out and it was just high enough. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to wait. I'll wait and see what people say. Other than that, me and Andrew were playing some Mario cart world on the Switch to yesterday.

Have they updated that? They made any better? They did push a couple of updates. I haven't noticed any of them.

It's stability. Yeah. It's incredibly stable. It's so stable now, you have no fucking idea.

Yeah. Maybe they updated something I haven't touched yet. But we're on the 150cc now trying to clear all the cups on that. And it is much more aggressive than the old ones were.

And maybe it's just because there are 24 racers all the time now. That is a lot. But it is incredibly aggressive. And both Andrew and myself are incredibly derogatory towards all the AI opponents.

All right. Yeah. We become mean towards it. Which granted?

They're mean to us too. We just can't hear it. I think decidedly we've all kind of turned on AI. That's true.

So I think that's OK. That's part of the course at this point. My biggest complaint about the game is still all of Donkey Kong's emotions. Like everything he does in the game, they could remove it.

And it would be fine. Because if he taps you or he hits you with something, he immediately dabs like it's 2014 or whatever. But a lot of his other emotions are also hello fellow kids. Like I couldn't name any of them.

But just watching them, I'm like, well, that's uncomfortable. That does kind of track for Donkey Kong, though. I guess. That kind of works for me.

I guess Donkey Kong is this out of touch middle-aged dad figure of like, no, I'm still cool. And you're like, oh, my god, dude, stop. Yeah, it kind of works for me. I'm kind of OK with it.

But yeah, it's still fun. It's still Mario Kart. And that's still fun. Yeah.

I like some of the new courses I don't like that you don't get to play three laps of them in the Grand Prix. But it is what it is. Also, I learned that the battery on my Switch 2 Pro Controller does not hold its charge for weeks of no playing. Like the Switch 1 Pro Controller does.

It's a downgrade. Yeah. Because I picked up my Switch 1 Pro Controller and was going to let Andrew use the Switch 2 Pro Controller. And the Switch 1 Pro Controller turned right on, still had full battery charge and everything.

And the Switch 2 Pro Controller is completely dead. So we had to charge that during the session. So it is apparently not for $90 or $95 or whatever. The fucking controller cost its battery is not as good as the one on the Switch 1 Pro Controller.

More interesting than the Switch 2 to me. Because honestly, the Switch 2 has been pretty boring. Yeah. You know, that's kind of my whole complaint with the announcement.

It was like, exactly enough to make you sort of want it a little. The discourse around the controller has been fascinating to me. Yeah. Like I fixed it came out and what they say in the rating is the piss-poor excuse for the controller.

The backlight, the constant waves of backlash of no, we love it. It's our favorite. No, it's the worst piece of shit ever made has been fascinating to watch. It's a comfortable controller.

I will say that. Sure. A lot of controllers are comfortable and they cost $20. Right.

Yeah. It is. I cannot justify it's price and I would not recommend it to anyone. It's just not worth that.

Like if you get one on clearance for $30, fine controller. Totally. No. After watching the I fix video on how to tear it down, it made me realize like you have to.

So did you watch the video? I looked at some stills. I was thinking a private face plate off. You got a private face plate off.

And watching that made me realize that my face plate has slightly come up online. Oh. Like out of the box. Like day one.

Like I had noticed that it was not quite flush there, but I just assumed that's how the controller was. But after watching that video, I realized no, mine has lifted a little bit. So that's okay. That's not going to bother you.

Yeah. Someone like you said. My nearly $100 controller isn't perfect, but that's totally okay. My brother's had a sticky trigger right out of the box.

Just very. That's annoying. Yeah. Let's do some news.

Yes, sir. First up, the GOG Dream list, which for people that don't know is a big list of user submitted games that people want to see on GOG and everyone can vote on them. Was flooded with alleged fake votes for Digimon world. I mean, no, no, no, maybe they were real.

I'm just saying. It just happened to be thousands of fans in one location all at the same IP address. Maybe they were having a convention. I'm just saying we should count the votes.

Okay. I demand a recap. I have so many jokes I want to make that I'm not going to make about this. Me too.

In my head, as we were leading up to this session, I can't say that. Can't say that. Can't say that. No, that sucks.

I would love to see Digimon. We shouldn't have let Dominion run the Dream list. Yeah, that sucks. But at least I caught it.

I mean, the Dream list has gotten games put on GOG. It's not just some bullshit community thing. It has led to games showing up. How come at least has been paying attention to it?

I'm grateful for that. I haven't noticed any other developers actively. I love this as an alternative to Kickstarter or whatever. I would rather see this community votes than a four-ratient going to kickstarter or change.org or whatever.

Some people on a platform, if you put this right here in this store, I will buy it. It's nice to have that. Next up. My RSS feeds were flooded with this.

Nintendo of America tried to give Pikachu, quote, huge breasts according to unearthed interview. And the sub headline was something like, we will never allow anyone to see these images. They will never come to light. I'm not going to say it's been two fucking weeks.

Let me just say, we don't need to see those images. The internet took care of that. I've already seen the images. I've been seeing them for years.

The internet was flooded with Pikachu with huge breasts 25 years ago, sir. It's fine. It completely plays into, I imagine Jackass, Miyamoto. They're like, why have we made this game?

It's like, you click a little monster and he's like, I love one of my big tits. Apparently it was in the middle of America because they thought Pikachu was too cute for American audiences. I'll just give him big old titties. Okay, so the little electric master is cute, but one of you has some big milkers.

Huge tracks of land. Juglypuff's nice. Put tits on that one too. Give Juglypuff a big old dick.

To go in the tits. And the squirrels should just have an enormous nut sack. Right, obviously. Nintendo Switch 2 sales are approaching 6 million units as Nintendo raises prices on the Switch 1 in more countries including the US because fuck you, if you just go, I'll just buy an original Switch.

They're probably cheap now. They're fucking not going out. The OLED model, I think, is $400 now, which is nearly the price with Switch 2. It's only 50 bucks cheaper.

Yeah. And it is more expensive than a series of people. I think it's more expensive than a series of us again. Can I just say then, if I didn't know better, I would say that Nintendo is artificially trying to pad sales numbers on the Switch 2 by making it just a better value than the Switch 1.

Maybe, but I remember Microsoft had also raised prices on the Xbox a year or so ago. This is true. No, it was a few months ago. Honestly, it's been way too long.

Honestly, I think Nintendo slashed the price of a Switch 2. I think they wanted to release it at a higher price. Yeah. And this is them paying that cost elsewhere, which is kind of not cool.

And even if they didn't want to release it at a higher price, they retroactively wanted to just because of world conditions since the console chip. Yeah, totally. Gothic Classic Collection coming to last year in Encouraging Console in 2026. This is one of those series is I always wanted to get around to it.

It was sort of Diablo adjacent. Yeah, that's what I've heard. And have another play. So I might maybe go check them out with the Classic Collection.

Microsoft confirmed $27 billion in net income during the same quarter. It laid off 9,000 people. Where do you think some money came from, Saturn? Probably lottery winnings.

Right. Also, they sold their POG collection. Oh, no. That was their retirement.

The Xbox exclusive version of Tycho Nototsujin is being delisted in September 2025. So if you want to get Tycho Nototsujin on Xbox. Now, there is a second Tycho Nototsujin game on Xbox. You can play that one still, but that's the multi-platform one.

But the one that was specifically Xbox exclusive, Xbox exclusive set of tracks, which are just a mix of tracks from different games in series. But if you want that one, it's going to be delisted. So jump on it. I caved in.

It had been on my list for a while now. And I was like, okay, I got it. Yeah. Yeah.

The original artist behind Plains vs. Zombies is the new remaster coming out from the EA. So no one reached out to them about the remaster at all. No, they said they were more than willing to have contributed HDR work to everything.

They would have been very excited about it. But nobody asked them. So yeah, they probably formed it out to an AI. Yeah, I would be shocked if a human being touched any of that art.

Right. You probably just fucking tweeted it at Grocker. Jesus Christ. I hate the future Justin.

I hate it too. It sucks. Yeah, let's just go back to Virtual Boy. It wouldn't have sucked anyway, but it's like some people want to definitely make it suck worse.

It's just so annoying. Valve is adding an option to add custom sort by names for future games or for games in future Steam update. So finally, your game list will no longer be Final Fantasy 1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 5. Why couldn't they just make it understand what the fuck a Roman numeral was?

I assume people might also want to organize things by other things. Like if you want to put like a dragon next to Yakuza or Yakuza next to like a dragon. That's true. You can do that way as well.

But that's good. I mean, most like, I know most media software and stuff has had that for years and years and years like sort of like size. You can sort things so I can put even a nightmare. Even if you like the series.

Right next to Ramsay's Kitchen nightmares, which is the UK version of the show. So I can have them near each other. Yeah. That's important to me.

The game is a DQ1 and 2 HD 2D guidebook in Japan, which God, I hope it gets translated. I love guidebooks. Nobody fucking does them anymore. Square Enix has been doing them and Dark Horse has translated several Square Enix's guidebooks in recent years.

They did the on-path traveler one. They did the near ones. So I am hopeful, but not enough that I'm going to play as any bets or anything. Yeah.

But also, Dragon Quest 1 and 2 HD 2D is hopefully a game that is not going to get a substantial amount of game-changing updates. Right. Any guide that's pertinent. It's getting a lot of game-changing updates.

No, no, no. I mean, after it's the game- Oh, yeah. Once it releases, there's probably not going to be a lot of changes that occur to it. Yeah, imagine.

So it could be a really good candidate for picking up a guide. That's always the problem with picking up a launch guide. Like, I have launch guides for Breath of the Wild. That's just DLC shit now.

It's not just not accurate anymore. I got the launch guide. Then later, I had to buy the upgraded guide that had the DLC shit. Right.

Because I have the new shit. Yeah. User Koshiro's new Genesis Shmoop released first on Steam with console and physical Genesis releases coming later. Koshiro's unhappy that the ROM is already leaked.

Sorry, dude. Welcome to the internet. Yeah. And also, maybe you should have not released it first on PC if you didn't want to run a ROM so easily.

Maybe just put the ROM out there so people can get it. Yeah, if you had sold the ROM individually, I bet people would have bought it so they could play it on their handheld devices or on their amulators or whatever they want to play it on. You're saying that if I make things available for people to actually own, they'll still want to buy them instead of renting them from me? Is that what you're telling me right now?

It's a crazy idea. But I think this is my work. I don't know. Let me go ask Chad GPT about this.

I'm going to go ask Co-Pilot. Retro Games announced a new Black Edition of the C64 mini that features only homebrew slash indie games made in recent years. So that's cool. It's really neat.

I already have a C64 mini, so I can't justify it. But I do want to try all those games online. I'm not sure. I'm interested in that.

Rayers 40th Anniversary happened. 8bitdow and Microsoft are releasing a rare themed 8bitdow controller which is kind of too subtle to really be that exciting to me. It's almost too classy. The two of them are advertising it as the first third party controller that can wirelessly turn on the Xbox.

I don't know if that's accurate or not, but it is. Microsoft also released an official EverCade cart of rare classics which is pretty neat to see. Not so far. Ziff Davis is cutting jobs at IGN and Digital Foundry split off from the company to go independent.

That sucks for IGN. As far as Digital Foundry, I don't always, in fact, a lot of time I don't fully agree with a lot of their takes. They seem really passionate and I appreciate the work that they do even if I don't personally agree with a lot of it. They tend to be a little nitpicky for me.

I do like watching some of their nitpicking. Even if it doesn't affect me at all, I'm glad that someone is out there counting every individual pixel of every game. You tell me I got this many pixels. Digital Foundry is going to fucking prove that.

Tell me if you're lying. They do do some. Any other retro stuff is great because they get so deep. I was watching one that they did on the PS3 launch games and the graphical fidelity and capability.

And capabilities of PS3 launch games. It was just so interesting. They had one a little while back that was all of the PS3 games that actually supported Full HD, which isn't a ton. But I watched that one.

I might be talking about the same one. I was really good. Nintendo has blocked their games from appearing in Japan's biggest charity speedrunning event because fuck charity says Nintendo. Basically.

Just fuck off, man. It's a charity. It's a charity, guys. They were owned by Activision.

They were published Guitar Hero. Yeah, they were guitar hero people. Anyway, are they making new rhythm games? That's kind of all they said is they're going to make rhythm games, which I presume is going to be guitar related.

The first time I'd heard of Red Octane, which would have been a few years before Guitar Hero came out, was when they made the high-end custom DDR mats, the ones that filled with foam so they wouldn't side around your floor when you were playing. And I remember they were like $200 for each Red Octane DDR mat. They were the premium. And one of my friends actually caved in and convinced his parents to buy the premium DDR mats.

And they were super, super nice. And then the next time I heard of Red Octane was Guitar Hero. And everybody was like, who's this company that came out of nowhere? I was like, no, that's the DDR mat people.

They're the ones that make the mats that we get to jump around like idiots on. But they've been committed to rhythm games for a long time, so I'm glad to see them come back. I'm shocked that Microsoft let them have that name. Yeah, I'm a little shocked as well.

Right? You know, whatever. The Game History Foundation has acquired the rights to computer entertainer magazine as it's released to the public for free. This is one of the very earliest computer gaming hobbyist publications.

And it's available online. You go download and read it. And it's really cool. They also did an interview with one of the founders of the public work.

And so it's been really awesome to see them securing more stuff. Right? And really, yeah, we just go look at it. It's almost like a library that's preserving media, despite what every corporation has to say about it.

Mike Choi has shown a prototype Flip Grip for the Switch 2 for people that don't know about Flip Grip. It was really good. I have Flip Grip. I played a lot of Tate Mode games on my Switch mode.

Oh, right. I play a bunch of Tate Mode games. And it's pretty good. Yeah, I like it.

Which brings us to our topic at hand. It does. Which is Kirby. K-R-B-A-Y.

I don't even remember why I spelled it that way, but I remember it was something we were saying that made it make sense. It was spelled that way on something I was looking online in a folder or something. And it said Kirby. And then we were saying Kirby the rest of the night as we were deciding to do this.

I think technically, I don't remember what we were calling this series. And last one we did was Samus. We were calling it like a care profile. Yeah, something like that.

So this is character profile Kirby or whatever we called it before. Read the title, man. Let's look down at your phone. Just look down and there you go.

Well, what are you listening to? You're creative, Zen. Am I zoom? You're zoom.

I'll tell you the title. Okay. So he's got maximum pink, which is a tagline that I always in my head mushed together with a really awful Dane Cook joke. Oh no.

And I'm not going to repeat what it is. I appreciate that you're not going to do that. I think that's apparently a line from the theme song to the. No, it is.

I know the Kirby right back at you theme song because I watched some Kirby right back at you for the show. And it sucks. My only introduction to right back at you is the one episode that came on the we disc for the anniversary collection. Yeah.

I guess most recently was a opa was our most recent character profile. That's right. Although I think we dropped whatever we called the same episode. I didn't even remember us having a name for the thing.

I thought we had a name for it. It was character profile or something. Maybe not. Maybe not.

It's just Kirby. All right. Kirby episode. He's got Max on the second Kirby episode.

We did another Kirby episode. That was a long time ago. That was about the games. Yeah.

This is about. Also, it was about four times. The whatever he is. I have no idea.

Whatever they are. I don't even know what pronouns are you. I covered that. We have we have the pronouns.

I'm so excited. Yes. We can get this all accurate. I give you a biographical info for Kirby.

So he's a eight inches tall or twenty centimeters. That cannot be right. That's officially he is eight inches tall or twenty centimeters. How tall is all the other people in his world?

Apparently around eight inches. I said their team. I never knew that. I didn't either.

His weight is unknown but presumably light enough to be carried into float. His age also unknown but described as young in the Japanese documentation. His cartoon. He's very child like.

His gender also unknown but according to the 20th anniversary in psychopedia he uses masculine pronouns. Right. Well, Nintendo of America wanted to put a big dick on him. Yeah.

No, it's shot down. The US documentation for Kirby's Dreamlands specifically referred to him as quote a spry little boy. You know what? He is spry.

Give him that. His skeletal structure was officially listed at one point as none though you did also find that one picture of him that showed him with bones. Yes. And we'll never forget that because when you posted him in the chat you said that the Kirby skeleton was bullshit because if he had that in Kirby's Dreamland he would crush his boners.

He would crush his boners. Yeah. So for non-long time discord denizens it would crush his boners with no E has been an ongoing discord for a while but you're correct. I don't understand how you can drop the skeleton.

His boners would get crushed. Stupid. Anyway, also his diet is yes. Yeah food, pastries, dishes, the tablecloth, the table, the rock.

Anyways, blocks, anything. Anything. His abilities, he inhales things mostly enemies are blocks and sometimes inhales things like cars and vending machines. Or yarn.

Or yarn, yeah depending on the game. Then he spits out stars made up of whatever he inhaled. He can fly by inhaling air and then becoming lighter than air. That doesn't make any sense but that's how Kirby's works.

He has copy abilities after the first game and he also has basic punches, kicks, slides, etc. He's also a radical and does a form of extreme sports called air writing. Oh yes that's true. Extreme sports star.

He also is a mini golf aficionado. Right. And can play across the games. I have a question before we get to find it.

Did you look at the Wikipedia for Kirby? I did check it at one point but I was using some other sources instead. I need to share this image with you. This is, someone made this image and it is to explain Kirby's copy ability.

And this is like, we can eat your comments like someone made and contributed this. And it's this instructional image diagram of a soulless Kirby eating a square block and then turning into a green Kirby with a sword because the block had a sword. It's very weird. I'm not trying to remember to make it the episode art.

Yeah that feels very like DMV art. Yeah it looks like a roadside describing Kirby's copy abilities. That's neat. So yeah anyway.

Please continue. Yeah yeah. So he was created by Masahiro Sakurai. How labs?

Part of that person. Yes. He did only Kirby and is only known for that. Yeah only ever Kirby.

That's the one thing he did. He was very young when he did Kirby too. Kirby is voiced by Makiko Omoto and she has voiced Kirby and pretty much everything in every region. I think since the beginning I think I saw there was like one or two appearances where she was unavailable and I had some other woman voice him but she is pretty much the voice of Kirby.

I can tell the Kirby Hollywood movie and then he'll voice by Tom Holland. Right. Relax. Chris Pratt.

Chris Pratt again. Right. Let me John Lee. Let me Kirby.

Voice Kirby. You know what? I'd be okay with that. I did give you a voice Kirby.

That'd be okay. I'd be okay with that too. It fits. That's perfectly.

The first appearance was Kirby's Dream Land back in April 27 of 1992. Most recent appearance is Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Colon, Star Cross World which is releasing later this month on the Switch to. I forgot that there's new Kirby and the Forgotten Land. Yes.

Just additional DLC content. Yeah it was like DLC stuff right. Yeah. So the last one.

What was the last like full game we got that was not. It was a Forgotten Land. It was a Forgotten Land. It was a few years then.

That was like 2020 ish. Was it that long ago? I feel like it's been a few years. I'm trying to let me look.

It's been 22. Okay. Alright still. It's still a few years.

Yeah. First encounters. My first Kirby and only Kirby game for years was Dream Course. The most prototypical Kirby game.

So Kirby to me was mini golf. I didn't know that Kirby existed outside of mini golf and when Smash Brothers came out I was like sure is weird that this mini golf guy is in there. Why not any of the other characters from that mini golf game? They're all equally interesting is this weird pink one.

I mean there were some others in there. And then my next Kirby game that I owned bought and played was Epic Yarn. God. Why would you do this to yourself?

I just never got a Kirby game. Oh man. You never did. I mean you know what it was is a superstar of the one in Super Nintendo that's just a bunch of mini games.

Sounds great. I would every time I'd be like what's a good Kirby game people be like oh super starts the best one. Yeah. And I would go play it and it was just kind of a bunch of mini games and I was like alright so it's mini golf.

I'm really game games. A bunch of full length games. I just wanted like a regular platformer and it would be the next best one. Yeah.

What's the one I should have gone to? Yeah. And just never got around to it. You know it's just one of those things where I just didn't care.

I don't know. I didn't give a shit. I don't know. You've gotten around to it now.

Yes. I have played some Kirby's now. Good. I want to say no I was going to say I think I played Return to Dream Land on Weeb but I did not.

My brother played it and I watched him play it and I was like alright goodbye. I think the Switchboard of that might have come out after forgotten land actually. You know what I own like two or three of the Switch games not forgotten land. Like there's been several on Switch.

Yeah. There was a Star Allies and I still haven't played. I think Star Allies for gotten land and the Return to Dream Land or Dream Master the three there are. Oh you know what I played a lot of Dream Course on Super Yes.

No not Dream Course. Rainbow the draw you on. The Rainbow Curse yeah. Rainbow Curse.

So does every non-standard Kirby game? Yes. I don't know every by the time I go to get around Kirby it's like alright what's the newest Kirby cool I'll check that out. Alright I'm drawing a rainbow line.

I'm playing mini golf. When I got my Game Boy Pocket not my original but several years ago I picked up Star Stacker. So just never never fucking got around. I love Zelda I played a lot of crossbow training.

Yeah it's great. Played played so much. You know what was the cost to one on three yes. Oh I don't remember.

Yeah that one. No I just I just always ended up on the non-standard Kirby game. We don't remember why. I just kind of.

I wasn't initially interested in Kirby just because I thought it was a kids game and I was at that perfect age to be like I'm too big for kids games. Yeah and to be fair it is. Yeah. You know some of them are definitely some of them are more general audience games.

But so I had not bothered to try any of them. Then when I was testing Game Boy Emulators it would have been in like 97, 98 something like that. I just downloaded whatever ROMs my sad 56k dial up connection could get me. You know each one would take 15, 20 minutes to get a Game Boy ROM but you know I'd grab what I could during the times that I could be on the internet.

And so I grabbed Kirby as one of them and tried it out and it's like that's a cute little fun game. It's a little too simplistic but yeah I can see where they're going with it. And then I tried Kirby's Adventure on any simulator shortly after that and was like oh oh no that's a full featured game. That one's fucking good.

And so then I became interested in the series I think I rented Superstar shortly after that because if people don't remember Superstar was such a late Super NES release that it was basically still current in the N64 era. So I had played that and then just got super into the series and grabbed as many of them as I could. You know I wonder because I was really into the N64. I wonder because Kirby wasn't super well represented on the N64.

Kirby 64 was the one on N64. Kind of it. And then GameCube only got air ride. Was there an actual Kirby game?

Like N64 to GameCube I was really into both those systems and so I wonder maybe that's also why he was kind of a tertiary character to me. He was kind of forgotten during that era. There was the GBA port of the NES game and Super NES game. That was about it until the Wii.