Rev. Dr. Allen Siegel: Presence, Active Listening, Compassion & Empathy

This week, Marcus interviews Rev. Allen Siegel, a hospital chaplain at an east coast academic facility. As we know, the pandemic has impacted chaplains deeply, just like clinical professionals. Rev. Siegel shares a bit of that journey through Covid, as well as his path into healthcare. Then, the conversation turns to Rev. Siegel’s recently published article in the Journal of Radiology Nurses, a framework created to help remind nurses (and all bedside professionals) the benefits of effective communication for both patient and caregiver. PACE=Presence, Active Listening, Compassion and Empathy. Remembering to PACE oneself, as Rev. Siegel reminds us, helps create a culture or environment around the sacred interaction of caregiving.  Key topics:[0:10] Introduction and audio disclaimer[2:12] Rev. Allen Siegel shares with us a time that he has been present for someone else[9:48] The power that presence brings[10:33] Allen’s earlier years and his journey to chaplaincy[13:52] Allen experiencing his own health scare[16:10] Allen’s research on how nurses can communicate with patients, especially around end-of-life, using PACE[18:34] How mindfulness is a thread that weaves all elements of PACE together[19:50] Being mindful of our own boundaries[20:58] Allen’s, “Can You Pace Yourself?” is published within the Journal of Radiology (linked in resources below) [22:18] An example of how the PACE framework been implemented in real life[23:53] The balance struggle between using technology, yet still remaining present for patients[29:36] Eliminating power dynamics between caregiver and patient, and how this builds trust[32:24] The side effects of presence within healthcare[33:57] Colleague to colleague support is needed now more than ever[36:54] If Allen was on a deserted island, what one piece of art would he bring?[39:05] If Allen could live as a fictional character for a day, who would it be? [39:54] If Allen could send one message to the world, what would he want to share? Resources for you:Read Rev. Allen Siegel’s article published within the Journal of Radiology Nurses in January 2021, “Can You PACE Yourself? Using PACE in the Clinical Setting, at End of Life and in Grief Work”: https://bit.ly/AllenSiegel-CanYouPACEYourselfEmail Rev. Allen: [email protected] Rev. Allen: 443-643-1375Connect with Rev. Allen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rev-dr-allen-siegel-rn-d-min-bcc-c-cism-857ba938Connect with Marcus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusengel/Subscribe to the podcast through Apple: https://bit.ly/MarcusEngelPodcastSubscribe to the podcast through Spotify: https://bit.ly/Spotify-MarcusEngelPodcast Learn more about Rev. Dr. Allen Siegel:Rev. Allen Siegel is an Ordained Interfaith Minister, Board Certified Chaplain and Certified-Critical Incident Stress Management. Read Rev. Allen’s article published within the Journal of Radiology Nurses in January 2021, “Can You PACE Yourself? Using PACE in the Clinical Setting, at End of Life and in Grief Work”, at the link in the “resources for you” above. Date: 12/14/2021Name of show: Compassion & Courage: Conversations in HealthcareEpisode title and number: Episode 21 – Rev. Dr. Allen Siegel: Presence, Active Listening, Compassion & Empathy