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EPISODE · May 12, 2025 · 10 MIN

Revolutionary Lessons from the Iliad

from Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show · host Dave Bowman

What do Achilles, Odysseus, and the Founding Fathers have in common? In this episode we explore how flawed heroes—from mythic battlefields to the halls of Independence—can still shape the world. Drawing from Stephen Fry’s Troy, we unpack the pride, grief, and imperfection of ancient warriors and connect them to the real, complicated men who signed the Declaration of Independence.Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin—none of them were saints. But like the heroes of legend, they carried heavy contradictions while laying the foundation for liberty.As we launch the Liberty – 250 series in the lead-up to America’s 250th birthday, we are not polishing halos—we are pulling back the curtain on greatness born from imperfection.Subscribe, share, and join the conversation as we ask the big question: Can flawed men still forge freedom?#Liberty250 #DaveDoesHistory #AmericanFounding #Troy #StephenFry #FoundingFathers #FlawedHeroes

What do Achilles, Odysseus, and the Founding Fathers have in common? In this episode we explore how flawed heroes—from mythic battlefields to the halls of Independence—can still shape the world. Drawing from Stephen Fry’s Troy, we unpack the pride, grief, and imperfection of ancient warriors and connect them to the real, complicated men who signed the Declaration of Independence.Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin—none of them were saints. But like the heroes of legend, they carried heavy contradictions while laying the foundation for liberty.As we launch the Liberty – 250 series in the lead-up to America’s 250th birthday, we are not polishing halos—we are pulling back the curtain on greatness born from imperfection.Subscribe, share, and join the conversation as we ask the big question: Can flawed men still forge freedom?#Liberty250 #DaveDoesHistory #AmericanFounding #Troy #StephenFry #FoundingFathers #FlawedHeroes

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What do Achilles, Odysseus, and the Founding Fathers have in common? In this episode we explore how flawed heroes—from mythic battlefields to the halls of Independence—can still shape the world. Drawing from Stephen Fry’s Troy, we unpack the pride,...

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