EPISODE · May 30, 2025 · 37 MIN
Richard Clarke and Robert Knake: "The Fifth Domain"
from Book Club with Michael Smerconish · host SiriusXM
Richard A. Clarke is one of the world's leading experts on security, cyberspace, and terrorism. He served in the U.S. government for thirty years, including as White House counterterrorism coordinator under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, and became the first White House official placed in charge of U.S. cybersecurity policy. He is the author of eight books (four works of nonfiction and four novels), including the number-one national bestseller Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror.Robert K. Knake is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, a senior research scientist at Northeastern University, and an adviser to startups, investment firms, and Fortune 500 companies. Knake served from 2011-15 in the Obama White House as director for cybersecurity policy at the National Security Council. He is the co-author (with Clarke) of the New York Times bestseller Cyber War. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Michael hosted an author conversation at the Philadelphia Free Library in 2019, focusing on cyber security, with Richard Clarke and Robert Knake. They are the authors of "The Fifth Domain: Defending Our Country, Our Companies, and Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats." The book offers an urgent new warning from two bestselling security experts--and a gripping inside look at how governments, firms, and ordinary citizens can confront and contain the tyrants, hackers, and criminals bent on turning the digital realm into a war zone. Originally recorded 18 July 2019. The book was published on 16 July 2019.
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