Ep05 Ride or Die: Salted Brown Butter Rice Krispie Treats and the Art of Adult Friendship

Love is on the brain at Dish + Tell because when this episode drops, Kayla’s friend and guest Morgan Klaas is days away from walking down the aisle. And while they could have talked about romance, they went somewhere even richer: the big, brave, beautiful world of adult friendship.Over a plate of Kayla’s Salted Brown Butter Rice Krispie treats (which Morgan has since rebranded "divorce treats" — you'll have to tune in for that story) and a glass of cava, they unpacked lost friends, the ones who stayed, and what loyalty looks like in action. Kayla also shares her belief that experiencing awe together might be the secret sauce to a lasting bond.In this episode, Kayla and Morgan explore:Why adult friendship requires a different kind of intention — and what gets in the wayThe "10X friendship" philosophy and how to apply it to your own circleThe difference between leading with love vs. leading with loyalty when making new friendsHow shared experiences of awe — in nature, in music, in travel — create bonds that lastThe loneliness epidemic and what it really means that 16% of Americans are turning to AI for companionshipMorgan's beautiful, tender definition of what true friendship looks like in its purest formAs you listen, think about your own circle. Who's on the bus ride with you — and are they truly deserving of that seat? And is there room to invite someone new on for the next leg of the ride?The recipe for divorce treats (officially: Salted Brown Butter Rice Krispie treats, with a super secret ingredient) is live on Substack: substack.com/@kaylagorski🥂 Cheers to Morgan and her HUSBAND, and all of the ones who show up.SHOW NOTES:🎙️ Listen to The Huberman Lab podcast episode with Dr. Dacher Keltner referenced. 📖 Pick up a copy of Dan Sullivan’s 10x is easier than 2x wherever books are sold. 🌹 To re-live the moment when Kayla and Morgan FINALLY understood the magic and poetry of Drums and Space, listen to this Dead & Company show from Folsom Field, Boulder, July 3, 2023.KEY WORDS:friendship, loyalty, vulnerability, adult relationships, awe, support, connection, personal growth, social dynamics, emotional health, adult friendship, making friends as an adult, loneliness epidemic, 10X friendships, shine theory, meaningful relationships, friendship advice, Dish and Tell podcast, Rice Krispie treats recipe, salted brown butter treats, cava wine pairing