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EPISODE · Oct 6, 2025 · 52 MIN

River, Roots, and Rafts

from Behind the Counter · host Ken Collins

Send us Fan MailImagine floating past sunlit bluffs while otters slip through willow shadows and a guide turns river science into basketballs-per-second. That’s the unexpected magic Cody Dudgeon and Desert River Guides bring to Farmington—a city more famous for oil and gas than river tourism. We talk with Cody about building a thriving rafting culture where no one was searching for it, training teachers as guides, and crafting five-star experiences that blend geology, history, and wildlife with calm-water serenity.The journey starts with the hard parts: weekend-only guide schools while teaching full-time, figuring out billboards and social posts that actually convert in a non-tourist town, and keeping old buses and trailers alive to make shuttles hum. Cody shares how partnerships with Three Rivers Brewing and Wines of the San Juan expanded their reach, why a family-first approach keeps 90-year-old grandparents and five-year-olds smiling on the same raft, and how consistent stewardship—like pulling 70+ tires from the San Juan and Animas—changes community behavior. We unpack the systems that matter most: training guides to read the room and the river, matching crew strengths to trip types, and translating cubic feet per second into visuals anyone can feel.Looking ahead, Cody lays out an exciting plan for multi-day trips from Shiprock toward Four Corners, plus winery shuttles and a dream “bar boat” cataraft powered by solar-assisted electric. We get honest about last-minute bookings, no-shows, deposits, accounting routines, and the constant dance of vehicles, lunches, and put-ins. Through it all, a clear theme emerges: deliver an experience that deepens connection to place, and word of mouth will carry you farther than any ad. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves rivers or local business stories, and leave a review with your favorite moment—what part of the journey should Cody scale next? Be sure to follow or subscribe!  And, if you're a local business owner who'd like to be featured - or know someone whose story should be told - get in touch at [email protected] show is brought to you by Strategic Horizons Consulting (a division of Ken Collins Marketing).Support the show

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Send us Fan Mail Imagine floating past sunlit bluffs while otters slip through willow shadows and a guide turns river science into basketballs-per-second. That’s the unexpected magic Cody Dudgeon and Desert River Guides bring to Farmington—a city more famous for oil and gas than river tourism. We talk with Cody about building a thriving rafting culture where no one was searching for it, training teachers as guides, and crafting five-star experiences that blend geology, history, and wildlife w...

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