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EPISODE · Mar 5, 2026 · 18 MIN

RNZ Nine to Noon Replay: Anthropic vs. the Department of War

from The Next Billion Seconds with Mark Pesce · host Ampel

Leading AI firm Anthropic drew two red lines on their work with the newly renamed US 'Department of War': No mass surveillance of Americans, and no autonomous weapons. US Secretary of Defense Pete Hesgeth threatened to declare Anthropic a 'supply chain risk' (basically, an enemy of the state) unless they erased those red lines. Anthropic held fast - and that's changed the politics of AI. Plus: Let the app know you're not dead!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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RNZ Nine to Noon Replay: Anthropic vs. the Department of War

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