Robert Downey Jr.

Welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dax Randle Shepherd. I'm joined by Monica Lillipadman.

This is a three-namer. It is a three-namer. You know, it's with great delight that I announced today. We have Robert Downey Jr.

You've been wanting to have him on since day one. Day one. I'm fascinated with Robert. I love Robert.

Yeah. And I think I hope you'll find him using our past friendship. I find it to be one of the more museum ones I've ever had. It was a really fun, funny, a little manic in a great way.

Yes. It was so fun. I was in the best mood afterwards. And he was so lovely and engaging to you, which made me so happy.

It was. He's a sweet, sweet, sweet boy. He's also an award-winning actor and producer. The Iron Man's, The Avengers, The Sherlock Holmes's, Tropic Thunder, Chaplain, which he will performance of a fucking century.

Now he has a new show about ding, ding, ding, cars, my favorite topic called Downey's Dream Cars, where he takes some incredible old vintage cars and restores them and brings them up to a more eco-friendly world. It's really cool. Very cool. She's not long for car shows.

No, but I loved it. Also, I recommend that people check out Senior, the documentary that Robert made about his father on Netflix, which is very beautiful. And we talk about Ed length. Most of all, we're just so happy.

He's here. So happy. Please enjoy RDJ, Robert Downey Jr. aka Bob Downey.

But before we go, we have our prompts for armchair anonymous for July for July. Here are your prompts. Prank gone wrong. Crank gone wrong.

Sometimes they're well intentioned, but the execution is not great. Second prompt, time you made the news. Yeah. I'm excited to make the news.

Now what an exciting event it is to make the news. It's huge. Third, craziest simulation moment. You've heard all of Monica's.

You've heard a lot of mine. And now it's time for us to hear yours. So remind you, prank gone wrong. Time you made the news.

Crazy simulation moments. Go, of course, to armchairexpertpod.com and submit your stories. And we will pick some among those and interview you. Cannot wait.

Please enjoy RDJ. He's an object. Rob got you the most delicious thing on this side of town. If you're interested.

What's it called? An oven top. Cream top from our recovery. It's the greatest thing in the world.

What kind of house? It's just crazy. It's like a way of a thing they make on top. You're right.

You want to eat fresh fruit? You got fucking big balls. I'll tell you that. I want to.

You want a kirig fresh brew? What are you going to do? I'm worried about your caffeine. Do you want to match up?

We can help milk. And milk. And milk. We can split it.

Can you redefise it on Trevor? Yeah, that's going to be hard for me. It would be a first time. We like first timers.

You don't have to do anything. But I'm not shocked. You're already fucking fucking system. There's been 600 motherfuckers came here before you that had no problem with the headphones.

Prince Harry among them. And you got to come in here with all this toot. I don't wear headphones. You got to give milk.

What else don't you do before we proceed? ABR? ABR always be recorded. Except after your P.

After your P. Notify the guess that you're already recording? Of course not. Of course not.

How often are these changed out? Nobody has asked that. This is an embarrassment. Those are the best things I recently.

You're awesome. That's what a liar you should have thought. That's right. And I broke a pair and then I had to bust out a pair from a box under my truck.

I have more if you wanted a different pair too. I do want a different pair. I'm sorry I don't see an I want a different pair. I've known you for I want to say 17 18 years now which might shock you because I've done because I've done math.

I didn't know this side of you. I didn't know. I haven't even seen him. I don't like that.

The exact same as these. What's your problem with those? I need two pairs. Okay.

Okay. I thought you were worried about germs, but you're worried about size. No. What is he worried about?

It's really hard to figure out what he's worried about. Are there covers over these? Oh, my God. Is this just a felt would you be more comfortable if we put masks on for COVID?

I have masks in the house. Should we get those? If I was worried about that, I'd have brought masks for everybody. Because your masks were bullshit.

No, these are canned. I'm 96. Most people have canned 95. We have canned 96.

Monica, I'm so pleased to be meeting you. That is so kind. I've been studying you. Oh, my God.

What have you learned? Well, I'm in your closet. I'm following around. I'm listening to your dulcet tones.

You're in my closet. That means you found me on Instagram. Yeah. Which, by the way, I got to Instagram.

I'm not sure. I tried to get an instrument to watch Richard Lewis. Alongstilly. So which one of these is fucking on?

I would recommend that it's plugged in. Oh, my God. I'm going to try these for a second, but they just give them a little. I think he's talking dog.

You're dusting off your chaplain character for this. You've got it off. You've got a big nest of cords over there. Why is this an improvement?

Well, you want to sense your answer? My head hurts. Okay. It's like going ahead, man.

As for. Tell me. Do we call it? Let's just call it.

This is already been great. We got enough. Rob's got big balls. The biggest brings me.

What is this? Green top. Milk cream top. Like that was so beyond random.

It's like this is what you would drink. I got an extra for you. And we're kind of similar. I hate to break this to you.

Last question. Yeah. We're there. The last question.

See the show comes up June 22nd. Thanks, guys. How do you kick this thing off? Usually because so far you have nothing.

And I think Rob would agree with me. No, you're completely wrong. You don't know shit about shit. Now you're a genius in a lot of spaces, but you're out of your depth right now.

We know how to make a hot steamy podcast. I want to try on some of your clothes. Anytime. Are they here?

No, you'd have to come to my apartment. But the weird thing is usually if I think about something or say it, it's there. I know. I know.

So this is already tough cookie and I don't just bend to the whims of rich powerful men. White men. That's right. Kind of flattering.

It's a nice. It's a mix. I like to take it as a compliment. You've done a lot.

So when does Olam music need their stand back? That's too deep of a reference. What's Olam? I don't know.

All right. I know. I'll tell you guys when this starts and what part of it. You're right.

You used to start. Just cue me when it's my turn to enter. But I have a real secure question. What would you have ordered at the coffee shop?

No, you don't like coffee. No, I love coffee. I just wouldn't order something at coffee shop. To pedestrian to unpredictable.

People are trying poison you. Well, first of all, this woke muffin top fucking spotte or whatever it is. That just tells me who you are. Okay.

And who are we? You're my friend. Oh my God. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm racing for impact yet.

It seems like they're compliments. You have more impact. And now we're going to drink it. After all.

Of course, we're going to drink it because we're a fucking addict and there's not going to be anything that's not so bad. One, let's get that second set of headphones better. Is there beer in there? I still can't get the fucking, it was supposed to be ready in time for you, but the seal two barrel isn't in there.

I was hoping you and I could drink planes to NA while we were doing this interview, which none of all beer. I don't talk. You don't fuck with an NA? Have you ever, you never.

I have. I have, I have a huge moral judgment on it. Well, you do tell me, tell me. Oh, cause someone did give that to me.

I ran into a dude from the program. I had a restaurant or something. I was drinking in all duels and he said to me, you know what they say about near beer. When you're drinking near beer, you're near beer.

I was like, oh my goodness. I said, you know how I know this isn't beer because I don't start looking for cocaine. after three. That's how we know for sure definitively this is not beer.

Hold on. I'm ready whenever you are. Oh gosh. Rob, this is too much.

We can't get too early for that. No, no, no, no. You take a picture of me right now. Are you ready?

And then over here. Let's grab one over here. Oh wow. You don't have to take any of me, Rob.

I'm easy. Hard of me. Yeah. I just don't want it to start because then at some point it's gonna end.

Oh, that's beautiful. But do you know what? It doesn't ever have to end. It's a holiday weekend.

These are gonna be the best photos ever taken. I love it. They are. Who is that last character we just saw?

I'm not sure. Maybe Elsie Downey? Oh, mom. Might have been a little mom in there.

I'm gonna now insist we hit play. Okay. Wait, can we just listen back to what we've done so far? Absolutely.

Go to Video Village and watch Playback. Okay. I think it's relevant. People can already hear the playful banter between you and I.

They know there's an established relationship. So where does it come from? What's the genesis? I'd love to tell that story if we could.

Yes. Okay. I'm gonna be sincere right now. We've known each other for I think 18 years now.

17. Take care of that before you say you're sincere. What's that? My tobacco?

Yeah. I'm like full white outfit. I work literally for you because you dress so phone came like, I'm gonna go all white. And then you clearly dress like I dressed today.

It's like a body switching comedy. You're not saying another word. Oh, no, no, never. Listen.

You know what's gonna fucking happen? I'm gonna predict it right now. I'm about to tell a story about us wrestling, but we're just gonna start wrestling in this area. There's no way we make it through this whole interview with you and I get on the ground.

I'm gonna be like, you were gonna sit that you might cry. I predicted that as well. We do it too. Yes.

I really thought that's what you're gonna say. Okay. I've not told you this ever intentionally because I think it would weird you out enormously. But I need to tell it because it's one of my favorite stories.

Okay. This is not a bit. We get berry on the phone for this. I have been having reoccurring dreams about you since I was 14 years old once a month into my 20s.

I would wake up until Brie like, yeah, I don't want to use fucking Robert Downey dreams again. Mind you, you want all the Markey's at this point? This is this pretty Iron Man. I'm a puffy but fuckable.

Totally. I mean, I would have these dreams and Robert, they were the same every single time. I bump into you out of nowhere. We start chatting and it's immediate.

Oh, wow. We're soulmates. We're connected. Okay.

This is 20 years of this. It's an unexaturation. So one day we get invited over to John Favreau's house as I have just done a movie with him and you're about to start a movie with him. A little movie.

Oh, yeah, yeah. A little tiny upstart. So we go over there. We spend the evening together.

We have no connection. I thought we did. Wait. I know I remember better than you do because obviously there's a status in that one.

So naturally, I remember every moment of this and you don't. We are so mates, by the way, but continue. Okay. On the right home from the Favreau's, I'm observably kind of sat and Brie says to me, Oh, honey, I'm sorry.

That didn't go as your dreams always did. And I go, yeah, kind of interesting. I don't think he gave a fuck that I was there. blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

Bear with me. Two months later, I go to visit John on set of Iron Man. You guys are in that enormous Marine Adele Ray soundstage. Everything built the spruce goose.

Exactly. You and I are walking. You're leaving set. I'm walking towards that.

We cross each other. And I'm so certain that I made no impact that occurs to me. I'm gonna have to remind him that we met. So as I'm crossing you, I say to you, Hey, I'm Dax.

We met at John's the other night. And you said, and I'll never forget. Oh, I remember you were the guy getting all the attention I'm used to getting. Wow.

And my soul took flight. Wings came out of my back. And I was like, there it is. And from that moment on, in my version of events, then we became friends.

If you call us friends and not soul mates, one. Isn't it wild? Did why wouldn't we tell each other? It's those things because everything is known.

So I've known unconsciously that you've been dreaming about me since you were 14. And then I probably thought, well, this is probably what made him. So numinous and all this stuff. That's right.

Your influence on him. You know, I came in so smart asian manic. And now I'm in my body. Oh, wonderful.

And listening and connected. I'm even going to try this horse. Sh** coffee. It's horse milk.

But here's the problem nowadays. I can't even tell where the drink hole is on this. Oh, here's so much green. There is.

It breaks a bit to get to the actual coffee. That's good. And now with your permission, Robert, I'd like to go through a couple of highlights after that moment. Hold on once again.

First, how do you feel the subliminal dialogue is going on with us being reintroduced with him in the high status position? Charles switched around with you there, backing his play. I'm going to try to focus most of my energy on you. But I'm going to need little feedback.

So far, we're at 100%. I think we're doing really good. No notes. Yeah, no notes yet.

I've done a couple edits already in my head. Oh, I know. Okay. Great.

Yeah. So I will sometimes look at her and she's a look on her face that I know scissors are out. And I should wrap it up because it's not going to see the light of the day anyways. Either I checked out or I'm staring daggers into his eyes.

Why are you still talking? Yes, that's happened several times. All right. In case you're wondering where we're at in the edit, you're on highlight reel.

Do you have any memories of those two things? Of course. Okay. Then we chat a lot on set that day.

And then you invite Reina, really quickly thereafter to your birthday party. And I am like, I cannot believe I've been invited to your birthday party. We go to this one. I can tell you this stuff.

I think I've played it really cool. Would you agree? I literally would have had no idea in the line of what you're saying. From day one, we had like five people that were dream guests and you were on the list.

And I was like, well, can you just ask him? I know you know him. You can just ask. And he refused to just ask you.

Do you need to take that? Yeah. She's on another show right now as well. She doesn't have other shows.

Well, they're all under her umbrella. I think they're your shows. I do take a little piece of her shows. So it's over.

Our show. This is what it is like on set with us to without a very strong director presence is we're just kind of too loose balloons that we know that the helium impact is going to ignite the atmosphere. So we're just kind of dancing until the moment that the strings get cut. We hit the ceiling and light up the eye on the sphere.

So burn out quick. Super quick. And our voice is get all high. So you were going to do a fucking highlight.

So God, Jesus, where are we? Okay. So I think I need to fast forward now. So initially we get to meet each other through Fabro and then we stay in touch a little bit because I guess if I was on the outside and I learned we were friends, I would assume it was from sobriety but that weirdly was not.

Yeah, I can either confirm nor deny my participation in 12 step over. Okay, let me handle that for both of us. Let me buzz the fuck out of your anonymity. Okay, what's really important now is that then we have a second mutual friend and this friend is everything.

He's the most important human being on planet earth. The male that we're probably both modeling ourselves. Three, two, one, Tom Hanson, a squire. You know, I talk about him so often on here.

I mean, I can't stop. So tell us how long you've known Tom. I've known Tom for the entirety of my career. He is an entertainment lawyer.

He's, I'm sure as you've described him, he is a gorgeous, all-time near-do well. He's the only person in our industry who has no known enemies. He's brilliant. He's great.

The thickness of his hair. I know. It's insane. But it's everything.

I've always said that he is the most successful person I know, personally, professionally. As a dad to his moral psychology is really the thing. Yeah, I know. I love him so much.

So then, how do we show our respect for him? Let's dance for it. We honor him. We are both lucky enough to get invited to his.

Was it a Fourth of July? Was it New Year's Eve? Yeah. I think it was Fourth of July.

She was a holiday in Jackson, whole Wyoming. I was staying there. You were at a hotel with Susan, but you came over for dinner and they sent us to get something out of the kitchen. You and I and while we were there, we got to talking about martial arts.

As you do. At any point, take over from your perspective. Because I'm not sure how it goes from us chatting about it to us full-grapily knocking shit over in this kitchen. I think it just exploded.

Yeah. It's what so mates do. They just are following the fucking blueprint of some celestial plan they're not even aware of. It was one of those testosterone moments where people just gather around to see is this where they've asked to get in their fast friendship.

I think it's like, well, we know we can't fuck each other. So what else is left? Speak for yourself. You may be tall, but you're worth the client.

Well, we should have were there with our wives. Look, here's all I remember. It happened. You're a game person.

I don't know if people know this enough about you, but you are someone that should not be taken lightly. You're also tall and strong. You're also a tiny bit controlled crazy. Hail Billy Jean.

Okay. This is a terrible combination for someone who would think you were something else. And I know a lot of folks like that that are from Michigan or Tennessee or whatever. They just have this thing that urban people don't have in a way because the urban thing is everyone's bouncing up against it's really hard to discern.

That is a terrible blanket statement. Here's what I'm saying is you are formidable. You are somewhat unpredictable, but I knew I was safe with you because unconsciously, as soul mates, I knew that you've been dreaming about me since we were 14. Absolutely.

And I have thought about this. Who got the better of the exchange? I want you to say it. I can only tell you, like the proudest moment of it for me personally.

Please. I was on top of you in the kitchen and you said, no, you're so fucking strong. I could have like evaporated. It's a busy best.

But I do remember as my arms had gassed out from the seemingly never ending strong headlock I'd had you. Pretty much from the beginning of the interaction until you fully mounted it. And where the real moves, we were going for it. It went to the floor immediately and stayed there until the end.

Okay. But I need to add for anyone that might think this was like a 20 second thing, a 30 second thing, people six minutes at least. She is getting knocked over. We're not in our house.

We're in Tom and Judy's beautiful home and stuff's falling off the counters. We have not brought the food back that we're supposed to bring back. And now I start hearing, I think, Kristen, you almost done in there. Like, we're getting the signal that we're ruining the party, basically.

But I thought about it since it's on misguided. I am so often like, I just want to be your best friend. And in my mind at that moment, I'm like, he will want to be my best friend if I'm stronger than him, which is the most analytical approach. You know, but do you do those stupid things?

We are very similar. And I also feel that there's very much a six degrees thing with us in that I can easily imagine a brilliant future for me that wasn't realized where I would be sitting in that chair and you would be sitting in this chair. And I think there's an understanding we both share the same brain disease. We both have the same kind of semi-attamed wild manic energy.

I'm always happy to see you because then I realize I'm not the only one who looks bugged out half the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think there's just a lot similarities. But I think more than anything is this power of partnerships.

Your whole life is built around these very central, deeply significant partnerships you have. Powerful. Yeah. And they tend to come from things that happen organically and morphed into something else and morphed into something else.

And then it's this realization of, oh, I fucking need is us. Do you think there's something for me there is I can bond and share with Kristen or in this space with Monica, I have maybe a harder time doing that with ma'am. Like there's probably been a lot of men that have come through my life that could probably have helped me in many ways that I couldn't either avail myself to or it would look like cowardice or weakness, whatever it is, I've been able to accept women's power and allow that to help me in a way I can't with men. Yeah, I was in a couple's therapy session was Susan Knight before last and maybe for the first time ever, I realized about 40 minutes in, I hadn't really said much and it was going great.

And they were kind of figuring me out and he was going, you know, I never really put it together, you know, with Robert, he doesn't really that bad. And I was kind of like, this is great. I'm not starting a fight to show that something needs to come up and be addressed so we can find some homeostasis. I'm not trying to stake my opinion with righteous indignation.

And basically the good doctor, who's I think in senior, he's just that blurry voice. Oh, I was curious if that was you on a zoom with your therapist. Yeah, because he respects himself. He's not trying to.

I wondered if it was your therapist, me too. Because it mirrored my side pretty well. Anyway, Kenyon said, you know, from the outside, it looks like you have this series of missteps and then you were in jails and institutions. And then you did a superhero movie in your life turned around.

He goes, I track that is just a byproduct of you finally got into a relationship with somebody who understood how to meet your needs without coddling you and how to have separateness within your unity and how to have definitive black and white boundaries with you. I've observed this spending time with you and when I'm around the two of you, I go, these two were really made for each other. Certainly Robert, she was made for each other. How does she implement boundaries?

Can you give an example? Here's my favorite one. I'll say this. When I'm in one of my moods, she will not engage.

She will not follow me down a rabbit hole. And it comes off to me as neglect. This was one of the big kind of breakthroughs. I mean, you'd think we'd have gotten to this before, but you know, like you hear it and you say it and you feel it and you agree to it and you sign off and you check all the boxes, but you still haven't processed it and integrated it.

She is just naturally not prone to enmeshment and dysfunction. And it is stunning. It's like she's staring at the teacups at Disneyland. She's like, yeah, I'm not getting on that right.

I'll get nauseous. Why the fuck would I get on that ride with him? Not to assign roles. And again, I just think relationships are everything, particularly if the relationships are based on a deep trust in how consistent we will be with each other.

Doesn't mean that we can't fall away a field and be admitted back, but we're not admitted back with the same rules as before. We're constantly updating and integrating this thing because we're hell bent on improving ourselves via each other. So when you find someone that really can do that, so we also try not to assign roles that she's the sequential thinker and I'm the associate of one because we're always combinations of those. But generally, there are lanes.

So it's not up tight. It's just super consistent. Have we started yet? We're about to.

We're only three more questions and then we'll start. I guess I just want to take us next after the wrestling match. Now I'm scared it's going to end. It's never going to end.

Okay, we're certainly going to end with him on top because while he has improved his martial arts skills, zero percent since then, but twice as strong as I was. That has nothing to do. I've been on a trajectory. Do people always your martial arts?

No, I will not. Oh, that's even deeper than the alcohol. That's felt like a gratuitous ask. I'm passing on that question.

You know what? I'm glad you're passing because then we would just probably end up debating differential arts and who the fuck wants to see that. And you would be incorrect about all that. I can see.

I can see. I can see. I won't try to dominate you. You'd like me next what happens in our story, which is really, really important to me is I get to be in one of your movies and you're a big part of why I got to be in that movie, the judge.

That was 10 years ago. Do you realize that? Like right now that was 10 years ago, because Lincoln was three months older, something she came and said, I just figured that out this morning and I had a panic attack, then I drank more coffee and I'm back. You are as well rounded and capable an actor as I have or will ever work with.

Oh, come on. And I think you wouldn't hear it from me because you already knew that I loved you. But I think by the time you could tell that Duvall was acknowledging you, now part of it was that you were a close proximity to him and his lawyer in the scene. But even better is when I could tell he would start talking shit about me and you would go along with it, which is when I actually finally felt perfect.

Your job was done. Yeah, probably the highlight of that whole experience was Billy Bob Thornton saying the internal dialogue of Duvall while he was sitting there in the courtroom and it went something like this. I don't know how that horse bookorex. He's a hill of a cowboy.

I got to try that sushi place that don't fucking about it. This is number one in the country, but I didn't like it the first time. I tried that again. So I just barely love just narrate what he was thinking.

I don't think I've ever seen anything better. That's the other thing too. I love this idea of, you know, I'm number one on the call sheet. It's called the judges about Duvall, but it's my fucking movie.

Now Duvall is the legendary artist in this movie. You come in, you start kind of like getting into Duvall's good graces, which is damn near impossible. And I'm like, this is good because you're really fucking good. And then there's Billy Bob that is so in his own category as a person, a human and an actor that you go, like, no matter how good any of us think we are, we always want to just be who we are and where we are, there's always this tertiary element, which is if you seek the opportunity, the opportunity to just appreciate someone like Billy Bob.

Who's floating in on a magic carpet. Yeah, but also by his own admission, the most neurotic person he will ever meet. So in a way, it's also shows our neurosis informs our ability to do certain things well, maybe even out of the bleeding edge of the cultural expectation. But there's always a cost and managing that cost as what makes you cool.

That's what's actually great about Billy Bob is he is as comfortable in his own skin as you could ever be while being very forthright about all of his phobias fears. I'll give you one example. And I think he would not mind this. Here's prime examples.

He'll go like, don't move out of that hotel room. Too much fabric in there. I was thinking all the diseases. So much fabric.

So much fabric. And all those pathogens and airborne polynes. So that's what he was wrestling with. If you're lucky in life in the middle of any moment where you're being spotlighted, you can imagine how much cooler it would be if the person you're talking about just showed up.

Oh, yeah. And that is a guy who it's impossible that he wouldn't be one of your best interviews ever. Billy Bob just giving you an idea. I know.

Maybe you were going to go to his house out in the West Side at one point. Yeah. By the way, Jane found a great guy that you were all just talking to about the Supreme Court. Yes, Michael Waldman.

That guy's incredible. No, I have to tell you, there's a lot of different podcasts out there. And I love making sport of podcasts. I need to whatever it is that I'm doing.

You know, I need to elevate it. Exactly. Yeah, like on Sam Jones, you hate impressionist. So you can do any impression.

Yes. But that to me was so definitive because you were bringing something where you are so prepared. When you say we're not experts, truth be told is everybody loves an expert. But to be a generalist where you can actually hold these kind of conversations for the laymen, I'll call myself just for five seconds, the layman who's in his dry sauna.

Yes. Yes. For 40 minutes just going, wow, I didn't really know any of this. And this is so important.

Agreed. Was that the most challenging role of your career playing the laymen for 30 seconds? Yay. By the way, you are going to be my vocal coach for this next job.

I do. I'll tell you why offline. All I have to do is listen to you, do this endless advertisement copy. I could just use it.

But I would rather give you the honor of actually, you might be my acting coach. Oh my God. I have so many hats on this. Yeah.

Well, the acting part, I think vertigo. Am I going to be involved in the Hitchcock now? You're dragging me to all the greatest part. I just need you to the top of really tall buildings and tell me what it's like.

I'm incredibly honored. What I'd like to do is what if you could give me the medical condition of vertigo and make me do all your blocking? Like send Shepherd up. He's got vertigo.

Put him on that. Let's see what would really happen. First of all, that is literally beneath you. So I would want to.

By the way, and I would take this seriously too. Wait, really quite Trevor, your friend is here. Yes. He's been with us forever.

The great thing about Trevor was he cold called team downy. Fuck yes. I've been waiting for someone like you to enter my world. Excuse me.

That was me. I know you're too rich now. You don't do a fucking thing. The house across the street.

Oh, how the mighty you're following. I did buy the house. I am done. Yeah, she's done.

Yeah. She's building the house across the street. Robert, this is the American dream. It really is.

It really is. And I think you and I, because this is one of the topics I want to talk about. We wrap everything up. Time to switch gears.

I'm sorry. Am I running out? Yeah. Vertigo is done.

It's not vertigo. I'll tell you what it is. But he is someone from Indiana, Michigan area, and he is a retired detective. And I want to talk a lot of shit.

I need to be able to improvise. And you are going to be, I don't want to say die like coach that's beneath you. You're going to be my acting coach for. Oh my God.

Can I be on a microphone somewhere in these scenes? Yeah. Okay. Can I be your stylist?

Oh, absolutely. I only wear your small frame clothes. Correct. So you got some new twist on this guy.

You don't have a lot of retired detectives who cross dress in micro clothing. It's messages. So many things. Yeah.

It's not just that you dress like a gal. It's that you dress as a very small gal that doesn't fit. I have a lot of different things. It's a lot of different things.

Trevor, that's where we were. And we can't. Yes. So Trevor cold called team down, which is incredible.

Yeah. And lo these many years later. How many? You were there during the judge?

Technically. Yeah. Technically. Yeah.

You were ready. Well, truly, you were ready. But I'll tell you by accident, Trevor wound up being the only assistant that has ever been on a Chris Nolan set. Wow.

Congratulations. That's huge. And even for Chris, it was such an anomaly that when he saw him wondering why it didn't just disappear. It was almost like that chappend thing and Trevor told me what the moment was like because he had had a reason to be there and support day and I had cleared it.

But I think Trevor wanted to like just put a lampshade on his head and pretend he wasn't there. But at that point, Hair Director knew who Trevor was. And he's not really that uptight. It's just you make a rule because it's all about discipline.

Anyway, congratulations. Yeah. You were in personal in Zyline and you did not have to evaporate. Wow.

Yes. We're gonna have you in separately too. Stay tuned for more armchair expert. If you dare.

What's that fucking crazy dog of yours name that we met? Frank Frank. Are we gonna have any cutaways to Frank here? Oh, we've got like a treasure trove of cutaways.