Robin Redmile-Gordon on Ichi-Coo Park, Craft Apprenticeships, AI and Building a Life Through Making

In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with Robin Redmile-Gordon, Director of Ichi-Coo Park, about building a life shaped by creativity and long term thinking. Robin shares how transforming Russ Hill Farm into a vast garden and living artwork helped him stay sane while running a global IT company. The conversation moves through craftsmanship collaboration and why clear briefs unlock exceptional work from skilled people. Robin offers a blunt critique of modern education and exam driven learning, argues for apprenticeships rooted in real work, and explains why holistic learning matters more than qualifications. Robin also discusses AI as a practical tool for thinking diagnosis and productivity, shares his experience of living with terminal blood cancer and the role of Turkey Tail mushrooms, and outlines ideas for a future where skills, purpose and creativity matter more than bureaucracy. This episode challenges conventional thinking and defends making as a meaningful way to live.Key Topics CoveredBuilding Itchy Park as a living artworkLong term collaboration with craftspeopleValue over cost in bespoke workClear briefs and creative freedomGardening as a form of artEscaping stress through making and landscapeApprenticeships and skills based learningFailures of exam focused educationHolistic learning and curiosity driven teachingTeaching through real work not theoryAI as a practical tool for thinking and diagnosisCritique of fear around artificial intelligenceLiving with terminal blood cancerTurkey Tail mushrooms and blood healthPurpose identity and creating meaningful workClip Fest and community making eventsEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Ichi-Coo Park and its origins02:26 The heart shaped island story05:19 Working with skilled craftspeople07:57 Value over cost in making12:14 Building to protect sanity17:25 Apprenticeships and skills gaps27:03 Holistic learning and curiosity38:48 AI as a working tool51:36 AI and health diagnosis56:19 Living with blood cancer1:06:39 Skills across generations1:23:18 Clip Fest 2026