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Hello again. Hi. Want to do another one? Yeah, we're doing another one. Right now. Right now? Yep. No lead in. Just straight to it. All right. I just fixed the garage door, so that was exciting. But you're not a garage door repair service. Yeah, I am.
You know, they have, like, there are people that specialize in, like, repairing your garage door. Your specialty is putting windows and doors, right? No, my specialty is windows, doors, garage doors. I'm a really good garage door guy. I've done it for 20 years. I was surprised. When we needed a garage door repair at our last house, like, let's call it a tune-up for your garage door, was cheaper and faster than I expected that it would be. Oh, yeah. Garage doors aren't, they're simple systems. You just have to know what you want out of each system to make everything work correctly. And you have to, like, use the right springs. And then the garage doors are great.
But a lot of people just use amalgamation of parts because the home center sells 10% of the available springs. And they just get the closest one or get the one that looks right, but they don't know any more wire gauges or inch points per turn. Yeah, there's a little bit of mass that goes into it. But if you mass it right, it's easy. So we just did a show like 45 minutes ago. We need a topic for this one, I think. And maybe it's...
So let me, um, let me preface the question by saying in the last couple of days, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos and what has my attention currently is Rolls Royces, uh, knowing that this is not a vehicle that I will ever be able to touch. Like in real life, I'll never be able to own one or at least, um, the ones that I could afford are ones that I should absolutely not buy. Um, do those, do, do Rolls Royces or Bentleys or anything that is like, um, floating cloud, like do those, do those. inspire you at all or not not in the slightest um so the older i get uh the more i want a floating cloud yeah yeah my wife's 2015 lexus that we bought her it's not cloud but like it's a pretty nice place to be and like it's got nice leather and like it drives nice and it's like comfortable enough to sit in it for 16 hours straight. And that's pretty nice. And like things get so much nicer than that. Like Rolls Royces, Mercedes, higher, higher BMW stuff, you know, like, Ooh boy. So, uh, I've been watching, um, you know, there's a YouTube channel called throttle house and they do, they're Canadian guys, but they do, I think really good videos. And they were doing a comparison of a 2022 Rolls Royce Phantom, which is like the tippy tippy top. Um, and a 2004 Phantom.
And they were looking at how they were different. And the new Phantom was like 800 grand. And the 2004, you could buy for 80 grand. And of course, like no one in their right mind should ever buy an $80,000 Rolls Royce. That would be insane. But they were trying to say like, how different is it?
And like, can you get most of the experience with a 10th the money? I imagine you probably can. Am I wrong? You can get most of the experience with a 10th money. You can't. Yeah. Like even the aesthetic on the design on the outside has only changed in like small ways, mostly aesthetic ways. I don't know if you were standing near us, but there was a Rolls Royce part right next to the dino for a little while. Yeah, I saw them arrive. I think that was a ghost. So that like the Phantom is the, you know, the tippy top one. The ghost is a little bit smaller and a little bit more.
A little bit less flashy. I don't know if you can say that about a Rolls Royce, but it has a little bit less presence. The design of a modern Rolls Royce doesn't do much for me, like the exterior aesthetics. I really do like the 70s and 80s ones, though. They look pretty dope. Yeah. But I was just thinking about how disappointing it is that brand new ultra luxury or however you want to call these vehicles, Bentley's two, I don't like that modern luxurious vehicles or luxury segment vehicles have a...
a topical nature to them. Maybe that's not the right word, but like, um, they're the components within them are not timeless, right? Like, uh, digital gauges and like all of that stuff, all that stuff in any car, whether it's a Land Rover or a Rolls Royce is going to feel old within, you know, five years. Probably. But conversely, like if you had a very simple.
like singled in stereo system with analog gauges and knobs and buttons, a 2024 Rolls Royce and 2054 would still feel like a classic like car that would be desirable, I think. Yeah. But if you look at what people actually want to spend disposable income on, it's not a new thing, not a classic thing. I don't know. I mean, I know I'm not their market, but it's it's so weird to me that.
them, you know, these almost like pieces of rolling artwork are almost disposable. I mean, I would argue that the same is true for like modern Ferraris and stuff. All of these gigantic digital dash systems are going to be piles of crap in 20 years. Yeah. And they're probably going to be the most problematic part of the car because, uh, even, you remember when Ferraris were like in the eighties and nineties were like amazing, but like a 90, like most nineties and early two thousands Ferraris mechanically, like they were okay. They were great when they were good, but then the engine had to come out to like change. They were a nightmare, but nothing really good mechanically.
It does feel like the things that are going to break are going to be like the display. It's going to be $10,000, $20,000. Even if you replace it, unless the company commits, I think maybe Portia did this recently, commits to like having a modern replacement for a dated component. Like if you replace that, let's say, you know, digital dash with a new one that's functional, the gauges still might look old and tacky. Yeah. I wonder how much of those systems, like even nowadays, I wonder how modular they are. I wonder if you can.
easily retrofit things or update backdate. Uh, like I wonder, I wonder the interchangeability and if that will be a thing in the future. Cause I think about like, um, does anyone lust for a brand or excuse me, I've really early, like a Ferrari F one style gearbox in there, you know, four 30. No, I don't think so. Nobody wants the manumatic stuff from the early 2000s now. And so like the technology at the time is cool, but it is only cool at the time. And I guess I would maybe, maybe this is why I'm not, I don't build cars, but like I would.
If I were buying one of those cars, I would want something that would be timeless and classic 50 years from now also. It would be as cool today as it was then. This morning, before I went to work, I was watching a video on 250 GTO Ferraris. and like you look at the interior of one of those and like you look at it on track and obviously the aesthetics are it's one of the most beautiful cars ever um you know kind of in the same vein as the Toyota 2000 GT and like uh early Z cars and like it's got just that classic late 60s you know look to it um and you can see why people like look at that and it's just timeless and perfect and even like the driving experience like it's still a car it's a it was a race car but like it's still a car um it's not a computer it's not like an ever-evolving thing like it's it's very analog and I It does make me sad that the analog thing is definitely going away, especially with driver aids and electronic controls of everything. The truck that I'm driving right now is as analog as it gets. It's a farm implement. Stick shifts, regular clutch, analog gauges. It does have a digital EGT gauge, but it's real analog, and I'm just driving a truck. And the truck that I rented from Dakota, that thing did a lot of things for you, and it was all digital and a big old screen, and there's a screen in the gauge cluster, and everything is screens and screens and screens. Lane keep, crazy cruise, and it's a great thing to drive.
Um, but I wonder if when this truck that I'm driving, it's an Oh five. So it's like pushing 20 years old. Um, and like nothing breaks on it. It's really basic. Like, I wonder how reliable those things will be in 20 years. Hopefully they are. So, um, while you were saying that I looked up something I had, um, in the back of my mind, uh, I think that the 2005 Ford GT is a mega, mega cool car. And I, I love like that, um, modern retro. I don't like modern retro in general, but on that car.
It works. You did a really good job on the style of that car. I look at the pictures of the interior of that car, and I'm looking at them right now, and you can't tell in 2023 that this car is a 2005 or a 1975 or a 1955. It's just like it's a car, and the gauges are timeless because they don't rely on modern technology to make them functional. They might all be electronically based or whatever, but that's really not the point. The interior just doesn't age out, I guess. I wonder if...
I think modern cars are very cool and very functional, but you wonder if the technology is supposed to have a service life consistent with the life of the vehicle. Where, like, you know, a 20-year-old F-150 is probably almost used up, so it won't matter if all of the electronics are almost, you know, fully used. Conversely, like, when people buy Ferraris, and maybe Ferrari cares or doesn't, but when people buy a Ferrari, I think the expectation is that that car will have a lifetime of... decades. They don't go to the junkyard because they aged out. They go to the junkyard because somebody crashed them making an Instagram video and that's it. You don't throw those away. And so that's the weird part to me where like those cars would put technology and modern stuff at the forefront because that stuff ages the fastest. Yeah, what's a...
Like the tech on my wife's 2015, right? Not that old of a car. I mean, it's seven, eight years old now, but like it feels 20 years old. Like the LCD screen feels old. And it's fine. I mean, I don't care about that. It's got regular analog gauges, but it's got an LCD screen in the gauges. It's got the big one in the middle. And it does feel dated. Like it feels a lot. But also like my mom's 2019 Lexus has the same basic weird stuff. So some of that is a Toyota thing. Like they're not bleeding edge of beauty in their LCD screens. And maybe using an RV example.
Chris Lewis for a time had the country coach Lexa, which was the highest end country coach in like 2002, 2003, as high end as it got. And it had this big digital dash with digital gauges and all this stuff. And if you compare it to my bus when I had it, mine was all analog gauges. You step into those things in 2022. My bus has better staying power. My bus looks less antiquated because all of those systems are just by themselves, like, analog. Yeah. No, I would probably not be surprised. I would probably agree with you. I never got inside of his bus. Do you still have that or no? No, he sold it, I think. I mean, it was really nice, but, like, I guess it was just, in the same way, it was technology forward, and I think technology forward stuff tends to age the fastest.
Yeah, you can see why on your everyday commuter car, they want to pack as much tech in it as they can. So somebody swipes the card for it, signs the loan for it, you know. In that way, it's kind of an appliance. But like, I guess I would just argue that. Like, why would you put that in a Ferrari, you know?
Just do a double din Apple CarPlay and call it good. In the same way, it's hard for me to understand why a company might be satisfied like Bentley, where they build these cars and they're extraordinary and they have this incredibly high retail selling price at the first sale, but they themselves are consumable. A 10-year-old Bentley I could go buy today for not very much money. It's pretty bizarre. I guess a 10-year-old Porsche doesn't depreciate that way.
It's probably because of the market for it. There's not a huge call for the Uber luxury stuff. And you look at higher-end Mercedes and stuff, they have a similar depreciation drop. There's less people demanding it. But those people will probably have enough disposable income to always demand the newest $800,000 car, which is bizarre. That's a weird market. I guess the thing that I keep coming back to is like...
uh, part of the reason that the Rolls Royce strikes me as cool is that it, it has some technology in it. Like I think that the starry night headliner is amazingly cool. It's a gimmick, but it's amazingly cool. But like, it is not necessarily, um, the Rolls Royce isn't an awesome car because it has the newest, latest and greatest technology. It, it like, it, it, it is first and foremost, just an outstanding car.
And so whether or not the newest, latest, and greatest F1-style transmission improves next year will make this one obsolete is irrelevant, because that's not what this is. Do Rolls Royces still have a 1960s-based V12 or something like that? Yes. It's an engine that the architecture has been around forever, isn't it? Yep. It's a 6.75-liter V12.
That's so wild. But they could have had that same V12 forever. Interesting, though, I would argue that those cars especially should be EVs because I think one of the points of being in one of those is to be completely sequestered from everything on the outside. And if you had a Rolls-Royce that didn't make any noise, that would just make things a little bit better. Yeah.
So I don't know. It's a fun diatribe, but it kind of makes me sad that old Bentleys, for example, they're not really collector's pieces because they're like blenders, right? They're just throwaway cars just like everything else. Yeah, but they're really expensive throwaway cars. I know. But even Rolls Royces are kind of that way. I don't know. If I were this luxury brand, maybe it doesn't matter. If you look at luxury things, what else is disposable in the luxury thing world? I mean, maybe furniture?
but like watches and a lot of like really high end clothing even is like more timeless. Like, yeah, no, that's, I think watches is a really fun example because like, um, you know, a 25 year old mechanical, exactly. And, and like if you were, I don't know, Breitling or tag or whoever makes really nice Omega, really nice fancy watches. Like it would, it would probably feel crappy if, um, you know, the consumers of your product used it and then just, it was a throwaway thing. Yeah.
It would definitely take away from the mystique of a brand. But some of that is, some of that is what they've done to build that brand. Like Rolex specifically and higher end watches and stuff. Sure. And like, I'm completely okay. Like a Ferrari and Porsche, they've done that same thing. I'm completely okay with, you know, a McLaren 720 being probably a throwaway car because the technology will age. And like, as those cars get used up, like they just, they will become obsolete. They are probably more of a throwaway than a Ferrari for sure. And absolutely a 12C is a throwaway car. Yeah, almost. And I mean, in its segment, it's the most disposable. Yeah.
Um, I don't know. I mean, this, that was the 20 minute long rant about throwaway things. I like, I just, I really like the idea of having timeless pieces. Well, and that's for me, that's sort of like how I, like when I buy a thing, I want to buy the most, I want to buy the thing that I can get the most use per dollar out of, or when I build a thing, you know, like, but like. Yeah, that's not always the goal for people. But like you said, with the 05 second gen Ford GT stuff, yeah, that's a good example of timelessness. That's 2000s for what they are. They're not going to look stupid and old ever. Right, right.
Interesting. I hadn't thought about it in a, I didn't know that the Rolls Royce world had gone high tech like that. Well, and like, um, actually I think almost every bit of car infotainment will, will age quickly. I would argue that if I were building a Rolls Royce, if I were specking one out, I wouldn't want it to have the advanced infotainment and I wouldn't want it to have all of the electronics stuff. I would just want it to be the best Rolls Royce that could be built.
It does seem like, as far as tech goes, if I was building that car, I was designing one of those cars, or also a luxury sports car, high-end sports car, whatever, I would probably stick with the double-din aftermarket stuff almost. Design something that can be upgraded really easily in the future. But that's also me thinking as a practical broke Dutch asshole. I don't even know if it's practical, but think about it as, I don't know, maybe an heirloom, right? It's a thing that could be passed down generationally rather than, well, it's just going to be scrapped. Whatever, it's fine. Yeah, it feels old versus feels...
Like an S2000 is probably always going to feel like a really classic sports car. Sure, yeah. A well-kept one. A Ford GT, nobody's going to throw this away ever. Right. Yeah. I don't know. It's an interesting thought. It's a world that we don't live in. But as a segue, I was trying to think, what is not necessarily the most expensive, but what was the nicest car you've ever ridden in? Ever ridden in? It's kind of boring. Probably my mom's 2019 LX whatever. Lexus. Is it LX or RX? LX. She's got the bigger one.
it's pretty nice but it's also kind of basic like for luxury it's not very fancy i was trying to think myself and um i've been in a lot of cars that are expensive and really fast i don't know that like i've been in andy hollis's uh 720 and it was awesome it is awesome awesome awesome um but like i don't know it it it how fast it was and how violent and aggressive and all of those things kind of um are more forward than how nice it is you know two of the coolest cars and they both kind of speak towards like the timeless interior uh and they're both pretty fast um that i've ever been in one of them was david calzada's got a you know a firelapse and k power um he's for a long time he's had i was gonna take a blue e46 i knew that you were gonna say that yeah that car i drove that car back from ohio one time and that car i mean it was 15 years old at the time or whatever it's only a few years ago like 10 years old or whatever it was that car felt incredible for the for even you know You know what I think? Age comparative. You know what I think are my favorite parts? Hang on, let me tell you the other ones. Would have been 996 turbos. Split time. I had one and a Christian ship had one. And those cars are, 996s are pretty nice interiors. They're simple, but like, they're pretty cool. I don't know if you thought about it the same way that I did or appreciated it in the same way that I did. BMWs of that era have something about them that I really like, which is for nighttime driving, when you turn, like, I love, like, the very dim red ambient lighting. Or red, yeah, the red orange bezels and everything. All of that, like,
I actually don't like the bright white gauge clusters and things of vehicles when I'm driving. And I prefer the red and I like it's got a real like, you know, like submarine type, you know, dark but visible sort of dark room type photography vibe to it that like your eyes can your pupils can dilate. You can see really well and you don't have this white light, you know, burning your pupils like normally when when Ashley and I are driving pretty late, I turn her. her infotainment off and I turn the center cluster down to as dim as I can get it because I want to see as much of the road as possible. And I would prefer if cars used more of that straight red lighting because it is better for night vision.
Yeah, I drove his car back from Ohio in the nighttime. And it was so striking how different of an experience it was just because of the way the cluster was laid out and the colors of it. And it almost felt like it was brighter out because it was so dark in the car. It was completely different than anything else I had ever driven in that regard. And it bums me out that that's not a...
It's not a situation that's easily attained, I guess. It felt like I was getting away with something at night driving that car. It felt like you were doing something wrong, and you had a tool that you shouldn't have. Well, but think about how many cars do you know of right now that you could recreate that same environment? Nothing. None, right? And every car uses these really bright, sophisticated displays, and I'm sure you can turn them all down, but there was just something magic about that cockpit, you know? Yeah, very analog also.
Yeah, everything was right where it should have been. Like, it's a really well-designed car. And there's a reason that that car probably will never go down in value, and they're going to be worth more than they were brand new, you know, like forever. And now Scott Diles has one. Maybe he'll let me night drive his at some point. Yeah, he's spent a lot of work into it. He's got a lot of boxes that showed up from an FCP Euro, and he's been watching a lot of their videos. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he's putting a lot of restoration-type stuff into it, which is cool to see.
Well, not like super modest. You and I have talked before. I really do think that like the 2005 to 2006 automobile is the timeless vehicle. Like anything after that, I think anything after that is essentially a consumable. Yeah, I mean, my truck right now that I'm driving is 05, and I had to change the engine because it was a bad choice by Ford to put a power stroke into it. But, like, it's got a really simple interior, and, like, it's an 05, and it feels very 05, but it also feels like this is perfect forever. Like, I never want anything else in a truck interior, you know? And that was just kind of like the design aesthetic largely. That era was, it was like the last of the non-tech, you know? Well, and I know that we sound kind of old now talking about this. Yeah, we definitely sound like idiots. But I think about E36s and E46s as kind of good examples.
um can you actually if you compare that let's say to an e wasn't in what year was the the v10 m5 um the e30 was it e34 or something no it was after that the the big v10 oh the later ones yeah i thought those were the m5s that would have been six seven eight or nine ten i don't remember um if you like the same era as the v8 m3 right yeah but like the v8 m3 or even like the e46 if you compare that to the v10 m5 um like there's no one that will tell you that a v10 m5 is is worth a damn because like everything in that car is essentially a consumable and so like i think you're just you you cross that threshold where The cars are just, they're not going to be track rack cars ever. And I'm not saying that that's the differentiator between what makes a car good or bad, but like I would imagine you will see 2000 to 2006 cars being used as cars for as long as cars operate the way that they do. They definitely speak to our kind of generation for sure. But like a 2010 or a 2012, I don't know, or 2015 M3, I think will age out and it will end up in the scrapyard before it ends up in a museum. Probably, yeah.
The more modern M3s, like F80s and stuff, a lot of tech. They can do a lot of things. Kind of unique, cool interiors, but not timeless. That's true. They're real fast, though. They are really fast. I've not had to eat my words yet, but the A90 Supras, Jackie and his team continues to demonstrate how much potential is in that chassis. It's just so much. Mind-blowing. I saw it when they went with that kind of BMW drivetrain. I thought, oh, man, that's going to be the...
It's going to be the Supra that breaks the Supra brand, and now I think it might be the best Supra. Well, and I don't think the Mark IV Supra was ever considered to be a viable track car by anyone serious. But I think the A90 Supra is a serious track day car. Yeah, maybe one of the best choices. Interesting, though, that it seems like any and all of the excitement around the new Nissan Z is fully dead. Yeah, it's kind of a bummer. I haven't heard anyone being excited about that thing at all. Yeah, it seems like a good car on paper, but like...
Yeah, not a lot of buzz. I've never driven one, obviously. But I think, like for like, people have said that despite having around the same horsepower on paper, the Supra feels way, way faster. Yeah, the Supra was... I drove... Remember the crashed one that Jackie had for a while? I drove that, and I could not believe how fast it was in a straight line. They were really quick. But, yeah.
Things don't need to go a lot faster than that. And he's like double the horsepower in his. So I wonder how fast that thing is in a straight line or in a quarter mile, like with prep drag radials. It'd just be crazy, I bet. It'd probably be a low 10 second car. I think to kind of close that previous question about the nicest car, maybe the one that left the biggest impression on me was when my parents had a, they bought a used original LS by Lexus. And I was maybe three or four or five years old when they bought it. And at the time I was like, wow, I can't believe that cars like this even exist.
Was it a 400 or 300? 400, yeah. It was an original, like, first-gen LS. And those cars were just so cool. The kind that Matt Fair had, that Matt Fair had that put a million miles on? Yeah. That might have been, at least in my memory, that might have been, for the time, one of the nicest cars that I've ever been in, or at least certainly one of the most memorable. It sure holds up, too. Like, you still see those around, you're like, damn, that's a pretty good-looking car for me at 30 years old. Yeah, right? Yeah. Kind of wild. And, like, they last, too. There's a few little things that you have to fix, and that's it. You know, like...
Super basic, right? V8. I can go for one of those actually. What's that? I can go for one of those personally. Like maybe I need to buy an LS 400. Yeah. I mean, you could probably get one for like not cheap because people have realized that old cars that hold up are useful. I, when, when we were looking to get a little bigger car, I did look at, at them and Sarah was like, that's so old, but they do look really nice. Like they're timeless bodies. Um, but like a little old lady grandma version of it was like 50,000 miles. People still want like 10 grand for them. Yeah. And like, they're not super fuel efficient, but no Toyota really is except for a Prius. Like.
Because they're tried and true tech, right? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, they're kind of designed to last 30 years in a third world country, supposedly. That's what they always say about Land Cruisers and similar. So I'm going to appeal to the audience. If there's anyone who's listening who has a big, luxurious, floaty cloud vehicle, I don't care what year it is. Like, hit us up in the comments or something of the show, because I just I want to learn more about it, because I think floaty cloud vehicles are cool.
Yeah, it kind of makes me want, like, probably the smoothest riding thing that I ever rode in was, like, my grandma's Lincoln. She had, like, a 2001 Lincoln, whatever that was. And it was all air suspension. It rode really, really well. It didn't handle well. But, like, it was just a tarted-up, you know, a tarted-up Grand Marquis or... Oh, sure. ...Cronvick. But that's, like, the air suspension has left a striking, like, place in my memory. And that's the reason that my truck that I want to build, I want to do a full air ride on it with, like, big bags. So it rides a little bit more cloud-like.
Um, yeah, I don't know. Air ride might be kind of the jam. Super, super well thought I ride might be the, that might be the ticket to cloud or cloud land. And if you have a Rolls Royce, um, let me know. Cause I want to ride in it. The, uh, the video that you were talking about, um, what did they compare? No five to like a brand new one. Yeah. And you can really get an Oh five for that cheap. And it's like kind of most of the experience. I mean, it was, it was a couple of years ago. Right. So I don't know if that's still true. Let's look right now. Probably is cars. And if you're going to go, you got to go all the way. So you got to get a phantom, right? So used Rolls Royce.
Phantom. They have a twin turbo V12? Yeah. It's probably pretty quick, too. Yeah, it's not slow. Lowest price.
for real, the lowest Phantom that's on the market today is quite a bit more than that. Um, mostly because they don't have any really old ones. I'm on cars.com. They don't have any really old stuff at all. Um, the, the, the cheapest one available is a 14 for two 15. That sounds about right. But that was what a six or $800,000 car. Yeah. Man. Yeah. Right. And, um, whose show was I on when I was talking about that? Like, uh,
it's hard for me to know what it would be like if you had so much money where you could spend a million dollars on something, knowing that it was going to essentially going to depreciate to like 20% of its value over the course of its life. Um, people don't buy houses that way. Nobody buys houses. Nobody, nobody would even want to consider owning a home if that was the case. Right. Or like, um, that percentage of drop is consistent with like original value to current day value. It's consistent with most modern cars up until like this weird bump because of supply and demand. Dude, hold on. Um, I think, you know, the Rolls Royce Phantom drophead is the convertible version.
Um, there's a drophead for one 25 that has a hundred thousand miles on it. That's awesome. Someone got fun. A lot of fun. Like a drophead is a pretty serious flex, but have a hundred K on the autometer is, is like, Oh yeah, someone really, really used that car. What year is it? Oh nine.
Well, they didn't use it that much though. That's a lot of years. Yeah. They did a couple of oil changes a year, but I mean, still use it a lot for what it is. High mileage rolls races. I wonder if, uh, let's see, let's see. One of my favorite stories is the dude who, I think he still has it, but like as a few years ago, when a bunch of my buddies had bought 996 twin turbos, like some dude up in, I think Minnesota had one with like 450,000 miles. Yeah. I think I remember that story. It was on the forum or something. Um, like everything. It was like largely original with just like, he just did maintenance and seals on it. Like Angel was out a few times to like, just seal it all up and put a clutch in it. And that was it.
So there's an 84 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit that has 106,000 miles for 12 grand. 84? The next cheapest vehicle is the 09 with 100K. It's $125,000 and 100,000 miles. Man, that's cool.
It's a lot of car for that. If you want one of those kind of cars, I don't know, man. How floaty is this Volvo that you're going to get? Do you order that thing by the way? The dealer told me that I need to order a 24, which means that I need to wait until May to order. Poor Derby. Yeah, I know. Derby can buy my fit. Why are you selling yours? I'm not, but he can buy it if he wants. So I'm going to, I mean, it's the end of March now, so I only have to wait like a month or so. And then we'll order that. Is that pretty cloud-like? I don't think so. The Olin stampers are a little bit firm.
but we'll see. That's funny. I don't know. Like I still think that that's probably the, um, the ideal vehicle for me. The only thing that concerns me a little bit is the, uh, the reliability. Um, but I plan to get the extended warranty for it. So, well, you don't keep things that long yourself. Well, I think the intent is to keep this one for a while. The, the only thing, well, the only thing that would, uh, prompt a more sudden, uh, sale of this vehicle would be like, if I was to move out of the country or something. Right.
But otherwise, like the intent is like, hey, this is a car that will, for as long as I live in Louisville, this... car will probably be the best, um, fit in terms of, uh, functionality that I can get. It's fast. It doesn't use much gas for my intended use and, um, it'll be funnish. Yeah. And more functional than, than a lot of it. Yeah. For dogs and kids and stuff. Yeah. So that's, that's kind of where it's at. My daughter thinks my, my bouncy stiffly sprung out of fit is the best. Oh yeah. Yeah. She thinks it's so cool. Let's ride in the red car. That's awesome. So you have, uh, the fit, the truck and your wife's RX.
Are you sort of shopping for anything or are you like pretty much? No, I don't know. If I sold the fit, I would just put the money into my new 07 pickup truck build and just build it faster. What's the status for that? What's up? What's the status for that? I got the six liter power stroke out and got like a handshake deal sort of to sell it. I got to sell that. And then that would basically be the money that I would need to. I'm planning to put a 7.3 Godzilla into it. And then it'll be a wiring hurdle to like figure out how to put all the modern wiring into the new, into the old truck.
Yeah, and the other things that I want to do with that are I want to, like I said, make it ride as nice as possible. I've got air ride for the front already, air springs, basically. And in the rear, I'm probably going to have to kind of engineer a big, huge four link with, I want to use large bags, like semi-truck style bags. Sure. So they can actually, because like a smaller airbag, when you support a bunch of weight, it's going to ride pretty similar to a spring. Sure. Because it's still spring rate, basically. A bigger airbag has a little more flex built into it. If you watch semi-trucks bump down the road, like they have a giant.
you know, interlocking, overlapping airbag for a reason. I think I want to try to engineer something with big old airbags so that it has height adjustability when you hook something heavy to it, but also it'll take a lot of the shock out of driving down the road. So an F-250 and F-350 ride pretty hard. Are you going to try and use the same type of components that will be self-leveling, height adjusting, or are you going to have, are you intending that all of your control, all of your height, all of your stiffness will be set by you as a driver? Probably gauges on the dash and switches. Do it myself.
We have the same airbag kit on the front of my dad's F-250, the one with like 700,000 miles. And it takes a lot of the bump out of the front of it. It's not perfect. It's still a smaller bag setup, but it takes a lot of the initial like hit expansion joint. It's half as much, you know what I mean? But you can raise and lower this truck about six inches if you want to, which is kind of cool. I remember you saying that you had, since you started that swap, the first swap now years and years ago, you had a spare five nine just sitting in the shop.
If you're not going to use it, why not sell it and use that to finish funding the project? Uh, because the current truck, which I'm still sitting in, I did this, I did this five, nine, 10 years ago. Um, and this engine had, I mean, it leaks a bunch of oil. It burned some, she's just getting old. Um, and those engines are worth so much money now that like, I wouldn't want to sell it and then use the money. And then if something happened to this one, have to buy it again. So I'm in, I'm in no hurry to really build this next truck. Like it's going to be a slow thing, but, um,
But how close is that? I intend to keep this one forever. My old five, I intend to pretty much just keep it forever. Isn't that pretty tough to do in Chicago? Like, isn't the frame going to rust to pieces before anything else happens? Not when it leaks enough oil and you also spray it with enough, with enough rust stop. So this thing leaks enough oil that like literally it is rust proofing itself every mile. Environmentalists hate you. Well, it's just leaking. It's not burning necessarily. It does burn some, but you know.
But it's just a good, simple truck. I'll probably just always have it. But I oil spray it once a year, slide underneath and spray the frame. So about five years ago, I put a work body on it and I took the bed, which had started to rust, took that off, sold it. And then I basically wire wheeled and chiseled all the scaling rust off the frame. And then I soaked it in fluid film. And ever since then, like it really hasn't changed. Like that, like just kind of preserved it in time. And it's not it turns the rust like black.
And it just kind of stayed that way. So if you keep up with that in Chicago, you can keep a car pretty nice. I mean, there's a reason that Houghton rust control probably does pretty well up in Canada because rust control is a thing. Especially in places that put salt down. Yeah, you can control it. You just have to literally have to oil spray the bottom of the car or the truck.
So, um, you know, we, this has been an eclectic episode. Is there any, is there any other luxury topics you want to talk about? Cause I'm just kind of, I'm in the mood. I don't know. I've been thinking about buying a vintage Seiko. All right. Like a watch. Yeah. Um, but like I bought a couple of them a few years ago for like pretty cheap. They're not expensive. Um, the Seiko five, like a mechanical, um, Seiko five. And they both probably broke like within two weeks of each other. And I think they might've been knockoffs, but like you look at, I took them all apart and like, they look like Seiko five. Um,
Yeah. So I don't know where to buy one though. I don't know where to buy one. Maybe, maybe a certified one on eBay. I don't know. I know that Ed is big, big into watches. And so if he listens to this, he's probably going to hit you up and talk about watches. I have, I have a couple of cool old mechanical watches that I'm not worth any money, but like one of them, I got from my wife's grandfather. He had passed away and then it was just in the drawer and her grandma said, Hey, do you want to watch? And I looked at it and she's like, I don't think it works.
it had like a super scratch up face and stuff. And I had it restored. I put a new face on it and had it cleaned out inside. It worked great. It works great. Um, it was just a Carvel, nothing fancy, but like it's cool watch. And I bought another version, another one of that brand. And that was more beat up that I can just wear the racetrack. I kind of like mechanical watch of the racetrack just with analog hands, you know? Yeah. Um, but, um, I've also been thinking about, uh, like a dive watch, um, because you could like many dive watches. You can just like spin the bezel and like my life lives 20 minutes at a time at a racetrack, you know, um, you can spin the bezel and basically, uh, once because, you know, because of the nature of diving, you have to like,
pay attention to how long you've been doing things. Um, that sort of is similar to like the 20 minute session, 20 minutes at a time at a racetrack for, for me. And like, so that that's something I've been thinking about. I just don't know anything about that. I've watched this. Yeah. Um, I think watches are cool and I haven't taken the plunge.
So that's a, that's a diving joke. Even dove in, um, on like expensive stuff. I have some friends that like are into the more expensive things and I don't, um, I'm not necessarily interested in them because they're expensive, but like a high end, high quality mechanical device I can appreciate. Yeah. That's the coolest thing about it to me. I'm not super into battery card watches. Like I really, I think mechanical watches are fricking cool. So, yeah. Well, uh, I think we did another show. Yeah. I go home and, uh, babysit my kids and, uh, we'll maybe try and do an episode tonight. We'll, we'll find a guest.
Yeah, let's attempt to do that. I'll let you know how my family situation with the girls is going. They're going to Florida by themselves on Tuesday. Oh, yeah? And, yeah, they have spring break next week, so they're technically on spring break right now. When I left, they were both, like, sitting in bathrobes on the couch being bums. That's funny. But they're going to spring break to her aunt's condo down in, I don't know, near Naples or whatever. But they're flying out there, and so I won't see them for a week, so I kind of want to hang out with them tonight. You should get Jets pizza and sit around and watch basketball. I highly recommend it. They also typically go to bed pretty early, so we can probably do one if you want to stay late. Cool. Talk to you later, buddy. Talk to you later, buddy. Talk to you later, man.
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