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EPISODE · Apr 29, 2026 · 43 MIN

Romans 9, Raw Milk, & The Cost of Avoiding Conflict | The Briefcase & The Barn - Ep 56

from The Furiously Curious Show · host Kyle Van Ruitenburg & Gary Baars | Furiously Curious Company

This one’s a mix of deep faith talks, real-life stories, and the kind of rabbit trails you’ve come to expect from Gary and me. We get into why I’ve been reading the book of John the same way, over and over, and how it’s made God way more real to me. We talk about conflict, courage, and why most of us will do more to avoid what we fear than to get what we actually want. Oh—and we somehow cover dairy quota, church buildings, and debating if you should do a spin class, shirtless. --The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow. Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about. Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*#ToGodBeTheGlory---🤝 *support the show here *👇 www.furiouslycurious.co/donate---📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045Email: [email protected]: https://www.furiouslycurious.co---*Social Media:*https://www.facebook.com/FuriouslyCuriousShowhttps://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/ ---*Got questions or feedback?*Email Kyle at [email protected]*⏱️ Podcast Chapters:*0:00 – Kids & Jesus6:59 – Reading John, Hits Hard14:44 – Romans 9 & Real Faith23:14 – The "Truth" About Dairy Quota32:56 – Should Churches Be Fancy?34:41 – Coaching That Changes Lives36:22 – Fear that Kills Your Goals39:34 – Good Wife & Bad Husband?

This one’s a mix of deep faith talks, real-life stories, and the kind of rabbit trails you’ve come to expect from Gary and me. We get into why I’ve been reading the book of John the same way, over and over, and how it’s made God way more real to me. We talk about conflict, courage, and why most of us will do more to avoid what we fear than to get what we actually want. Oh—and we somehow cover dairy quota, church buildings, and debating if you should do a spin class, shirtless. --The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow. Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about. Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*#ToGodBeTheGlory---🤝 *support the show here *👇 www.furiouslycurious.co/donate---📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045Email: [email protected]: https://www.furiouslycurious.co---*Social Media:*https://www.facebook.com/FuriouslyCuriousShowhttps://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/ ---*Got questions or feedback?*Email Kyle at [email protected]*⏱️ Podcast Chapters:*0:00 – Kids & Jesus6:59 – Reading John, Hits Hard14:44 – Romans 9 & Real Faith23:14 – The "Truth" About Dairy Quota32:56 – Should Churches Be Fancy?34:41 – Coaching That Changes Lives36:22 – Fear that Kills Your Goals39:34 – Good Wife & Bad Husband?

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