Wow, what soothing sounds to weld me to sleep? Yeah, I was like, here I can't stop singing the song to this movie and she was like, I don't know it Oh, yeah, but those two notes you gave me definitely sparked my memory. Thank you so much. Oh, no He's leaving.
That's not my song. He's slamming the door. Oh, man. What will I do with this baby?
I got all this rose. The narrative here is that we were I was singing to you and then I left leading you alone with a surprise baby. Yeah How are you? How are you?
Hi, so Halloweeners. Hey horror movie podcast. I'm Kira. I'm Cody in.
Now, what about Rosemary's baby? Rosemary's baby. Before we go into this, just it just seems appropriate for us to mention. The director of this film, Roman Polanski, was arrested for very indecent behavior involving a minor.
So we in no way are supporting this man or his actions. However, the film we believe has an interesting kind of feminist response to women living in domestic relationships, experiencing domestic abuse women who are forced to maybe give birth the things they don't want to. Cody has a lovely quote here. Yes.
Yeah, I found this quote very helpful as kind of jumping off point as to how to discuss this movie. This is from Karen Kusama who's this great director working now. She's this movie out now called this joyor starting cooking in. She's like, anyway, not relevant.
Anyway, Karen Kusama last year did a retrospective on Rosemary's baby and in that article she said the following. One thing to add here is that Roman Polanski has made one of the great feminist parables of cinema and yet we have to struggle with Polanski the man and the mistakes he has made that the crimes he has committed. But that to me is the enduring possibility of art that it can stand apart from its maker and I believe we have to judge Rosemary's baby on its own merit. So I don't necessarily agree with the fact that all art showed or can be separated from its creator.
However, this one is particularly interesting as a weird blanked term, but the fact that this man who has a litigiously evidenced history being an asshole to women also made this movie, which is like she says a fantastic feminist parable especially in the time it came out. So I think it is still worth revisiting and discussing especially in terms of horror as social commentary, which is one of the great traditions of horror movies and the ones that stands as time. I usually the ones that have something to say either about its time or about a social issue or something political. Those are the ones that I think spur the best discussion and have the best legacy.
And so although like you said, Cody, we don't really apply this idea, this philosophy to all things and all terrible people. But just the sake of this movie and the sake of the story that it tells and the things that it brings up, we're going to talk about it. We also would love if you have anything to say otherwise, you know, either opposing or whatever about either discussing the movie in general or just how should we love to hear that. I think this is definitely a great way to open up discussion about again separating art from artists.
That phrase I hear a lot lately. And I'm usually like, not a fan, but we think that this would be on its own. Sans Roman Planzky brings up enough points that we want to talk about and also we can focus on everyone else but him. Exactly.
I don't plan to mention his name ever. In the next however long we're talking about it. Rosemary, where's that baby? Is that?
So, New York City, 1965. Big Apple, 65. Yeah, where were you? How negative of a fetus were you?
That was negative 26. That's almost exactly... Hold on, hold on. But it's like right in the middle.
So, back in time, baby. And the exterior is the Dakota, which is fun. Not fun. I mean, you're afraid of that.
It's a very interesting thing because it took place at Dakota and that is also where John Lennon was shot years later. I know. It is so wacky that Yoko owns the Loserci nolette. Didn't I make a joke about this last time?
Yeah, I was like, oh, Renta so... I was like meaning and saying like, the housing market in New York is so crazy that Yoko owns the Dakota. Hasn't no catch up. Well, he has to walk through that archway where he was shot every single day.
Yeah, the bullet holes are still there, like in the wall. No, they're really? Yeah, I see that. Are you kidding me?
Where'd your face go? I'm probably left those there. I know. I guess it's like a never-for-kind situation.
I mean, they were there as of 10, 15 years ago. Got it. So, they're still there. But yes, they shot the external shots for the locations movie in the Dakota.
In the movie, it's called the Branford. Oh, right, right, because they're using the Bran. They're using the Bran. The Bran.
The Bran. You know, like how the Dakota they call the back. Oh, you're saying the back. Oh, you're saying the back.
Well, they're in the face. They're laundry, and they're hallway, and they're like elevator. It looks like it could be in my building. And I pay probably a little bit less time for a little bit of the Dakota.
But that may have been like just the normal time. I guess so. I don't know. Let us know.
Call in. So, we meet. Rosemary. Mia Farrow.
Sounds baby. She is only 23 in this movie. Ah! Which is not because she also looked like she's 11.
Well, they keep putting her in baby doll dresses. She's pregnant. She's pregnant. She's like a little Mary Jane's.
And she's like, oh, I'm so excited. Does she call him Daddy at one point? She'd definitely call him Daddy at one point. be that he?
It's still. La la la la. It's essentially her doing a lot of live, right? Yeah.
She's got her husband. Yes. They're by John Casvetes. Which is funny that his name is Casvetes.
I always think that. I always think that one. Because we learn that there's two other characters, many and where am I? Roman.
Which is also weird, his name is Roman. Sure is, remember? Because we're weirded. And their last name quote unquote is Casvetes or something like that.
Casvetes? Which one's gonna be that name? In fact. The actor's name who played her husband is John Casvetes, but the name of the character is Casveteau.
Or like Casveteau that, yeah. It's like a teeny and weird, like kind of fun. Not Casvetes. He was an actor.
He was also a dear hunter, but he was like more famous as a director. Oh cool. He was like maybe like, I'll talk a bit in 70s films with like, ooh, I never say that. I never say that.
I don't know what I'm talking about. Fun. And so they're just moving in. And what was the situation?
Because I got a little confused here myself. Yeah. It was like a woman lived in the apartment in Casveau. Yes.
And they're moving right in, but there was gonna be, like, one and a half of the apartment was in that situation. And so they lived there. And even before the previous one went there, I think the apartment they are moving into used to be part of mini and romance apartment. Okay.
And then it got renovated sometime in this old lady who's living there or moved in there. Okay. Because it was like very clearly her own place. Okay.
But it still was, like, I think that's the clue for later. Like they shared a wall with her. They shared a wall and a hall. A wall and a hall.
Oh, what was the, they said the person died, right? Yes. Was it the hospital? Yeah, she's like, she's in the coma.
The guy, she was in the deep coma. And I was like, what kind of. As opposed to a shallow coma. Right.
Oh, they're like, they keep popping up. They're like, they keep popping up. They're like, they keep popping up. I mean, when I go into every winter.
Oh, God. I was just going to be. Oh, God. Correct.
Okay. So then, sorry. I don't want to go. We're kind of looking at some exposition here.
But they, when they're going around the apartment, they're seeing it with a real term. Yes. And he goes over to a section of the apartment. It's all kind of old, you know, old and dark in the apartment.
And there's a dresser and he's like, oh, there's a closet back here. Yeah. I don't know why it's here. And they moved it and the closet is just sort of like vacuum cleaner.
Yeah. Like, why was there a closet blocked? Because I assume, because she was part of the coven, the old lady, because not only were all the herbs there, which like, you know, were very much part of the witchiness. Oh, it's why they're all witches.
They're all witches. All of them witches. All of them witches. And, um.
So is it. Is there something? No, she's like, I want to point out. She's like, what should she do?
Yeah, there's a moment of her like whispering thing. Then it's either all the witches or she's whispering. Yeah, the baby names. She's always whispering.
Oh, but she's like, and the Argenti, I'm sorry. Yeah. She's so sweet. She's so small.
I just want to protect her. Oh, so that's a secret closet. Yes. Oh, so that is the secret closet.
Yes. Oh, okay. So she goes through the later. She was tired of all the witches.
She probably was, you know, like somehow moved that dresser to keep them getting in with her magical herbs. That is the thing, no. The other thing is that not really dressed. Cause she's a witch and clearly witches A, worship Satan, we hold orders in their home and see, can move furniture without the aid of anyone else.
This is facts is real. Also, I don't want to say it. It's all about a science. Of course.
I don't know. And do it. Also, I realize this movie very much has a similar basic structure plot-wise to that of Suspiria. Oh yeah!
It's like a really basic way. No, that's right. Stranger comes into place and then like, stranger is in the middle of it, isn't quite sure what the box is going on. Maybe she's going crazy, they're drugging her, there's lots of sleeping happening.
And then like, actually, when she finds the layer and realizes all the witchiness by... There's like noise going into walls and knocking and stuff. Don't know. Hey, when there's noises in the walls.
I mean, right, I did... I just forgot I heard a scream last night at the apartment and I was just like... Just in your building. Yeah.
And I heard Cody and I was like, Zach and he was like, what? It was not... You're kidding me? How close it sounds to you?
It was in the bathroom. It was in the shower. In the bathroom? Mm-hmm.
Kira. I'm out of the stage for Cody. We're just going to be doing a perfect. I wasn't scared of it, but it doesn't mean anything.
Well, that's okay. We're not going to tell. We're just going to tell. We're just going to tell...
If there's any negative homies hanging out, we just want to tell them to leave and just tell the people who are good that like, to just be nice. I'm not scared of it. But also like, fun. It's nice to know that in movies and stuff when people are like, I'm actually not scared of the ghost apartment.
I'm one of them. I would be one of them because the moment when you can't just boogie happens, I'm like, oh, this is something. Also, it's nice because you live with someone. That's true.
I was about myself. I'll be here. I'm not sure if I can get out of here. This is for you, uh, connection.
I like that. Yeah. And also, we run into this a lot on this podcast. You know, people who are, which is whatever can be, which is like awful villains, you know, with no regard to humanity when like, quite the opposite in real life.
The good news this time is that it's not just ladies, if that makes sense? Oh, yeah. This is a coed coed, Calvin Honey. Honey, yeah.
Everybody's welcome. It's really fun. And I like that because like, we usually talk about in, just very, in Blair, which in, what else, the Contering, you know, it's these, it's usually women who are getting the labels of which and like, you know, that's a bad thing in the world of movies. This time it's not just ladies.
Oh my God. No, there's like some gentlemen. Actually, one of the gentlemen I think in the coven, he was the same guy from a house on the hill. Lots and pressure.
Oh, yeah, okay. The actor. In this movie, we have the actor Elijah Cook and he plays Watson Pritchard in House of Haunted Hill and he, in this movie, plays someone else. Can I grab you?
Give me a hand. He plays Dr. Nicholas. Mr.
Nicholas. How the fuck is that? I don't know what that is. Of course.
My favorite character. Oh, Mr. Nicholas. Oh, Mr.
Nicholas. Legendary. Yeah, you gave him an Ellen insider. There's so many doctors in this movie and I also thought Dr.
Hill and Puss were the same person for at least 45 minutes. Do you mean Saperstein? No. There was a doctor.
Heels were the young doctor. That was not me. I just wanted to see. Oh, that's when you go see at the end.
Has she been wanting to see the whole time? I can trace her. Holy shit. That made me.
Every time I watch it. Ladies, my blood is boiling. Ladies. My blood is simmering your head ains.
Because he's like, hmm, sounds about right. And that's what sucks about. Wait, and also it's funny that she sees a doctor, Dr. Saperstein, who is, uh, so he'd be considered an obstetrician, correct?
Yes, because one of the other characters, actually, is like, oh, he's living two of my nieces or whatever. So, for those of you who watch Parks and Rec on repeat when you go to sleep, like I have done multiple years. It's good. So much of this also hurt walking into someone else's own, I had something else, this is something I used to do because I was such a little shit, and I was so easily impressed by stuff, and like, it's so rude.
When you were a child, it's like, oh my, I was born in the Civil War, like. Get together. Oh, go on the thing. I'm Santa's root.
No, um, but I should pronounce the words, she's all my manes, she's keep saying it. What. I'm pregnant? I'm pregnant in the chocolate mouse.
Oh my god, she does say chocolate mouse. I'm sorry. Here's the fucking thing with this guy, I mean, there's many things with this movie. Sorry, well, I was about to get very self-righteous.
Okay, we were gonna save our Whole Box. box. No, I'm just gonna make that moment and he's multiple moments. I just talk about her husband.
I absolutely. She's great. Her fashion, what the fuck is that in there? She's like, you're the pink of the green in one dress!
Just clashing of styles. Holy shit, the fake flowers on her head, the scarves. Oh my god, yeah. Oh, even the hat when they go out and they come back and they find out that what's your face, that the girl they take in jumped.
Yes, yes, she went like fake flowers. It's great. She won the Oscar for this report, which is like such a cool way. She won it this way?
Yeah. Like best support. That's pretty cool. Did she really talk about that?
Is that like her voice? She's in Herald and Mod also as Mod, where she's playing like a very sweet old lady. It's like a completely different character from this. She's amazing.
Love your with Gordon, happy that she won the Oscar for this. Yeah, she's on screen. I was delighted and horrible. Because she was even worse than I am.
I didn't even wear a bean like that and I like that movie. Diane Rosemary, both like, I can't stand her. Well, that's what's so is like, because that's a real shit too, is like when you and a person are like, I don't know about so and so and then we have to go over there. And then when the other person starts giving into it and is into it and you kind of are like, oh, I thought we both thought this was, you know.
When she and her friends show up with their knitting and just plop them and catch. Oh my god, I hated it so much. That fucking, I hated that one too. She was like shaking the cradle.
Like, have you never been a baby before, bitch? She's also a star and just she, well, I felt so proud because when we were towards the end, we're going to go. It's okay. When she's Rosarise and Bed after her baby's been born and they're kind of like all keeping vigil over her, she's the one that's reading the readers' digest of the magnifying glass.
Oh my god. And Rosemary goes like, hello or something small and meek and this actress goes like, Which I throw that on her hand. It's such a like, a broad choice. And I was like, you know what she is, she is some old like vaudeville actress who's been like working in New York for 50 years.
Yeah. And I was right. She's a vaudeville actress. Yeah, that's awesome.
I mean, Patsy Kelly, she was like an out lesbian and never hit it. Even when she was like young and 50, like hit it. She was like out and proud. That's like a time when it's like not cool and she like still found work consistently.
What's her name? Patsy Kelly. Oh my god. Wait, no.
She's a hero. She wanted Tony of work like four years after this movie. She had a really good, her and Ruth Gordon had a very good golden years in terms of like career trajectory. Yeah, wait, I love all this.
Holy fuck you. I know, good for them. What a fun, Colin. More like fun than.
Colin. Well, like. Calm. And coming.
I got the land of comedy. So the husband. One of the things I, not one of the things, everything. So he gets incredibly manipulative and it makes my fucking skin crawl.
Oh, Guy. Yeah. Guy Fieri. And, um, I know Guy, your husband.
Um, even when he, so okay, so even that this trust starts right away. So they start off their honesty page. They both don't want to hang out. Oh, it's the best.
It's like when John and I before we go somewhere and we're like, we can't sing long. We're tired. I love, yeah. Establishing of like the like relationship being strong because they have private moments of like, like when they come back from the old couple and they're like making fun.
Yeah. Like it's so real. Yeah. And just like, oh, we don't have to go back.
Like they just did to me nice because of their girl, they're taking care of passing, which I don't want to talk about a little bit. And so they were like, fine. And then so once he's starting out with them more and he's kind of bringing that trust with her, that already is such a clear indicator of like, just doing secret shit and just like, all right, well, I thought we talked about this. But okay, like, well, I'll be able to change.
And then when he comes over with a chocolate mouse that many gives him and he literally like, maybe I'm like, turning to eating the whole thing. It's like, my God. subtle thing. Because what is it she's saying?
There's like a chalky undertaste or something. And he's like, oh, nothing's ever good enough for you. Well, he goes like, oh, yeah, you're right. This kind of weird.
We should just be polite. Yeah, exactly. And he's like, now, it's just, it just stressed me out. And I just, he's character such a piece of shit.
And then when we later find out that unfortunately, they're making arrangements. They want to like have a baby. And he's like, you know what, I happen to know the two specific days that we should fuck, which is usually something a woman knows because of her period of which is ovulating. Was there a reason they wanted it to be for when it was?
I'm sure that the cast of that's were like, okay, we're going to get her these formulas. You have to impregnate her like now. Sure. Because we are witches and we know stuff, you know, Satan was like, but he was born early, I think, because the day she escapes, she's at the doctor's office.
And she's like, I'm doing Tuesday. And then that day is the day she gets birth. Oh, although do you know what day? The day was what?
You took me a day for my birthday. Just saying here he is. It's me. I know it's Mary's baby.
We got his people house. Oh, yeah, beautiful. Oh, that's gorgeous. He's so nice.
His sunken. Nice. Those hands of feet though, honey. I was just saying about his hands of feet.
Are we supposed to be his host? Yeah. Thank God. I don't show that.
I just have a realization. Do you think, because Rosemary doesn't finish the chocolate mouse, she like dumps it into her lap and like a really visceral, like, diary away. And do you think if she was, she'd both finish the little thing I met. If she happens the little thing, she wouldn't have had that dream at all and like had any memory of it happening, which has been completely like, you're out for night.
I think so, because even there was a point when she eats a little bit and she starts like, with his dreams and like going in and out of things that seem real. And she basically gets fucked by the devil as you do. And but there's moments of her like, what was it? One guy even says, like, I don't think it works.
She's she's alert or whatever. And they're like, no, if she ate the whole thing, she's out. She went out to sit or whatever. She's just by all the old people in her dream.
I'm like, Oh, there's an nightmare. But then the worst fucking part of it all. So she's like, something's fucking her. She doesn't know if it's guy.
She sees something with the eyes, which supposedly that actor who played Satan was supposed to really sweet. Like he just had to come in and like, just pretend to fuck her and was like, like, thank you. Like, that was really nice. Like, I mean, how else do you handle?
They got that situation on set. But um, that and uh, yeah, and then we wake up and she has the scratches on it. Oh my god, that always freaks me out. Like, I'm impressed.
On her side. Yeah. Side boops scratching. And what's his face goes?
Oh, yes. Sorry. I had to. I'm down now.
Yeah. And he basically tells me that he loves rape, her. She's like, she goes, I had a dream. Somebody's raping me.
So like, not minceing work. And she's like, she was like, I had a crazy sex dream. And he goes out. Thanks very much.
Well, no, no, yeah. And then he says, yeah. And then he, she's like, well, you had, you made love while I was out. And he goes, well, it's kind of fun in the necrophile sort of way.
Oh my god. He's like, I don't want him his baby day. Bitch, first of all, there were two days that you circled. You could fuck me.
Yeah. Third of all, you know what's the best part about fucking when everyone's awake? I don't understand. I would have sat the entire building on fire.
There's so many warning signs. I'm not blaming her. I was married to the police. It's like, let us know.
You know, uh oh, look out for him. First, it's something as like, I was gonna make a read this thing. Right. Now it's, oh, he literally, whether he said that to her to comfort her in the moment or not, regardless, like you sick fucking bastard.
Like you, yeah, don't do that. And then the scene later where she's like, I want to go to a different doctor. And he was like, it won't be fair to Dr. Saperstein.
And she's like, what is that? She's so good in those scenes. She is, I think, phenomenal the entire way. I think she, it's like performance, you disagree.
Well, I guess it's just hard for me because she's so, I mean, this isn't a good reason, but she's so small and so petite and so tiny that everything is just like, I guess she's just like that. I guess she's just like that. I guess it's just like, for me, and that's not a bad thing, but like, it's always when she completely freaks out that are, I think are amazing because they're all well done. Right.
And also, I think her being like, a little me and naive and subservient, which are also part of the gender role she was, you know, expect to fill up the time. That makes her like, explosions and like moments of like taking charge of her own fate even more interesting because it's like, oh, she's really breaking from the norms. She's like, being some subservient, like a woman walking, like trying to escape her husband while pregnant now is like, still shocking to some people. And like, I can imagine it, you know, 50 years ago.
In the mad man era? Oh my god. I know when it's like, oh, you're divorced, I guess you. Yes, you're on the hell and you're like, okay, it's just, yeah, it's really gross.
Oh, so obviously, if you haven't seen the movie, first of all, go watch it. It's, you know, you gotta watch it. It's, I mean, it's a slow, slow burn, slow burn, but it's not like which in the sense we're like, and you know, with this movie, like it burns really, really slowly, but there's like moments of whoa, whoa, and then the buddy end when it all comes together, you're like, okay, I got it. Definitely got it now, everything is all together.
Yeah, like, here we go, here we go. And we are with Rosemary the entire time. There's literally not a single second of screen time, where we're with somebody else. We are with her perspective the whole time.
Yeah, it's like a novel being the first person. Like we see everything they see. And so the fear and paranoia of Rosemary's experiences as she believes that her child is Satan's child. We don't know anything more than she does.
Exactly. So we learn and we're suspicious, but also like, well, it could be, you know, we're just imagining it. And even she is like, I know it's not crazy. Yeah.
But yeah, regardless, she spends a whole lot of what she starts to fear is that through various circumstances and events, like friends buying, who are getting in the way of this baby being born the way that like the husband and kind of the next-door neighbors want to be born, she believes to expect that they are a coven who are, she thinks they are to take her baby and do everything wrong with it. She doesn't, I think, explicitly think it's gonna be, maybe. Right, well she thinks that's gonna do with the fact that like her husband and her husband is an actor and he got apart because the actor who actually had the role went blind all the sudden. As you do, I know we don't have any fun who will be blind, like just review, like, but just temporarily.
I don't care what's about me. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, like, what do you, oh, I guess I'm awake. Well, okay. Yeah.
So, yeah, you write that I don't think they necessarily, she never necessarily thought like, oh, it'll be a demon baby. She just thought they were gonna take this baby that she made with her husband. Right. Because when they're first moving into this building, Hutch, their friend from their old place is telling them like, oh, they found a dead baby there once and they're suspected, which is who likes supposedly eight of babies.
So like, Rosemary to her mind, I'm sure just thinks they're gonna do something to her human baby, not that they'd even be human. Yeah. Because you never think what you never, you know, you assume Satan's busy. He's got a very full dance card.
Little old me. He's gonna take time. Right. That I did say that to her.
They're like out of the world. Which is exactly what they say to Mary about much less customers. Oh my god. Her for to marry me.
Oh, you're right. You're right. You're the beginning of the movie when they're moving in and they go to the laundry basement, you know, so Rosemary meets the girl who's being taken care of by the cast of ads. Her name was Terry.
Yes. And so we meet her. She's wearing a necklace with a tannus root in it, which is we learn is basically like a devil fungus. Right.
We don't know what it does. I was gonna ask what you thought it does. I thought maybe like it just helps like, so do the person has their own point or it just kind of like puts a track or like marks them right demon energy as you would. You know a dog peeing on something right or just like like you wear a cross if you are heavily Christianity minded really this just happens.
It's all bad. Oh, I think also well that too. I think also perhaps Terry his vision was Terry was chosen to be a fan. Yes.
And so maybe this necklace is kind of like the first step like it's the you know, I kind of think sort of talisman. Yeah, just like this is the first step you wear this and then it makes you smell and so it makes the devil horny for you. Oh, it's called devil's rich and like that, right? Yeah, there you go.
So something that's some part of the ceremony. And so do you think that she really did jump in? She I'm first. Yeah, I do.
She was like I'm not in the second day. Yes, exactly. Because the night before she dies or the night of they hear like chanting and the next room is I'm guessing the ritual or something ritual Jason was going on and she was like, I don't want this anymore. So you know what you gave me some good ideas like thank you so much, Mr.
Satan. But I have so many things I need to focus on. I'd rather not. You know, and like honestly, I really bad asthma problems and like the baby is just gonna have that.
So like, you don't want that. Listen, like I understand like the desire to like, you know, continue the family trade, but like some jeans are just shouldn't be spread. Yep. You ever thought of adopting Mr.
Satan because I think, you know, there are a lot of demon babies out there. Oh boy. Me at one. I'm gonna say that scene when Rosemary's crossing the street from traffic.
I suppose that was real. Like she was just like, yeah, no one's gonna hit you. You're pregnant. Wasn't wrong.
Nobody hit her. That's it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy.
I'm gonna watch that. They are all right. I love that the night that she's impregnated with this demon baby is the same night that the Pope is in town. Like before they go to bed, they're watching TV or the husband's like, ah, the Pope's in Yankee Stadium.
It's crazy. Look at this. Nuts. They're everybody's nuts.
And it says like this convergence of two powers in one place at the same time. Like the Pope's in town and that's also why they play the pregnancy. At least I also actually I think yes. I think so.
Things are at their utmost like, you know. Yeah, everything is at level 11. I like that a lot. She also has a lot of like, not a lot of them.
We, uh, exported this a little bit. She has some, you know, run a male Catholic guilt going on. She has these dreams about breaking a window at the convent. She grew up in the Catholic school and like in her dream when she's being raped by Satan, the Pope comes up to her.
Right. Right. That's like a ring. Yes, but the ring that is the tennis ring.
The tennis ring. Yeah, the tennis ring. Yeah. And he goes, I heard you were bit by mouse, which is funny because it's like the chocolate mouse.
Ow. That's what I was supposed to say. Wasn't someone the part of the card of covering wearing that ring was not going to show it. I don't remember.
You know what? You can never be sure. You know what I mean. No.
Oh, I also like, just a little note, I like that guy as an actor so that he can like, believably hide seekers from Rosemary. Oh, that's true. He is good at lying. Because if he wasn't, and he'd be like, well, why, why would you believe him or like, how's he so good at like, lying to the wife?
Mr. Yamaha. His job is actually lying, baby. He has the Yamaha residuals, honey.
Oh, oh, I love the part at the New Year's party where at midnight Roman goes to 1966 the year one. Oh, yeah. Which like what? What does that mean, Roman?
Everything's starting over. Everything. I think about it. Well, because when Dus was born, that is like AD1.
Who? My favorite timing is just when they're at Finally's the Last Scene and the babies in the little like, little, little satanic little cradle thing. That's big cradle. That's big.
But she's getting undermatic veil. That's so good. The black curtains, please. And I just love the screaming of pale satan.
Doesn't know the same. Hylist. They're so excited. Oh yeah, like in the moment to be on when they're like, I'm a Roman's like, oh, and his name is Adrian and he's not abstaining.
And guys, not the bad. And she's freaking out. It's just so, she's so good. And her size really does, like you're saying, coming to play that moment because she's so small and she's so quote unquote, looks so weak.
And in the words of Brianna, all my kindness has been mistaken for weakness. And I don't know. Five seconds by Friday. I mean, now other people have said it before.
I don't remember that. I think another key to this movie being like the feminist parable it is is the just especially of its times is like the unending casual misogyny that she has to deal with from like men around her. Not just in actions, but like in words, you know, the doctor when she's like, I have his pain. He's like, don't read books.
Well, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's scene. But that yeah, being hidden in this world of like they're saying it so she won't read and oh, of course. Also, but he's able to say that with like conviction because of the time was like listening to the male doctors ladies and also in like she gets a haircut and this is not the dude saying that he's got a nasty asshole. He's like, he'll like shit.
Right. Also, no, she looks hella cute. Yeah, the dels as soon as it costs a lot of money back then. That was an expensive haircut.
Yeah. Also, unfortunately, this movie makes you want to be a housewife. Just like a little bit. I know it just looks nice and comfy and then all the word I'll bills.
I know it's like, oh, I just have a single one organized and clean it. Okay. Things I like to do anyway. I do.
Regardless of my time. I know you mean them. And also like, oh, and later when Roman comes to check on Rosemary because Hutch is there and like there's a lot of moments of Hutch being a Hutch coming over their friend and like you can tell that the coven is like keeping eye on her because something like a peer on her door or like guy will show up in the middle of his rehearsal to leave and like go to the check on Rosemary. Right.
Oh, you're right. I know when Hutch is in the glove which they must have used again to like talk about this show. And everyone who's about to tell them like, oh right. He gets to the book.
Right. He's supposed to meet her somewhere. Yes. I'm like the lady.
Oh my god. Oh, so cute. When Hutch is over and Roman's there and Hutch is like she looks terrible. She's so thin.
Like is everything all right. What's with this doctor? And Roman goes like, oh, it's all right. You know, this happens to women sometimes.
Later on she'll gain some weight probably too much. Right. You're so right. She's carrying a baby.
Also, I was like from the guy goes like in what universe does a woman lose weight before? Exactly. And he was saying in the movie like who just became me? I'll lose it.
Oh gosh. And they make her look so sick. Oh my god. That's amazing.
Pankake. And then later at the party she has all her young friends. Oh, fine. Like some homosexual just dresses her down.
He goes, you look like a piece of chalk. What? I don't remember that. Oh my god.
You look like a piece of chalk sister. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He doesn't really say chalk. Yeah, he does this chalk.
What brazen homo is going to make fun of a pregnant lady? I think he's a sweet sweet sweet sweet time. I do love that she's like, no, no, I have a party with my fucking friends. Guy that are under 60.
Mini. Yeah, you got to be under 60 to get in. Bitch. Oh my god.
That's really good. And so she's in the waiting room for the doctor's office that, and this is Dr. Hill, not Dr. Tafferting.
She is looking through the magazines in the waiting room and once she pulls up there is that famous time-16 cover that is God dead color. Oh, it's so intense. It's like a famous cover that was real from the 60s. Yes.
What is it in regards to, Oh, is it because after it was killed? No, no, no. It was just like in the mid 60s when, like, I think, Faith and Ordinary were legitimate. At the lowest point that was far in the century, there was this issue of time, had a lot of theologians come on and discuss the existence or innocence of God, which is pretty intense or a little magazine.
Yeah, and it's just very abrupt too, and seen. Oh, oh, it's just in a doctor's office. But I think that's kind of another key to the movie. And not that the movie is pro-religion or anything, or explicitly.