Rough Draft #15 Ben Tanzer: God Damn Gem

This ep we welcome Ben Tanzer! Writer, a teacher, storyteller, and general force of positivity - we've both known him for years! Host of This Podcast Will Change Your Life and ambassador of well, introducing people to each other, Ben is one of our faves.  We talk about Ben's guidelines for hype and joy, the difference between hustle culture and diligence, and being comfortable with failure, among other things. We did an exchange program! Recently, Ben had us on This Podcast Will Change Your Life #382! We talked creative roadmapping, work legacy and more. It was great, and like this episode of RD, super inspiring. Wanna listen to us separately on his podcast in 2015 before Liz and Keidra knew each other?!  Liz was on #110 + Keidra was on #127.   Where to find Ben!: Ben's most recent book! After Hours: Scorsese, Grief and the Grammar of Cinema (ig publishing) Podcast tanzerben.com LinkedIn TikTok Substack   us!: Keidra's stuff: @keidrachaney + @wildramppublishing + bsky.app/profile/kdc.bsky.social + bsky.app/profile/wildramppublishing.bsky.social + wildramppublishing.com  + keidradchaney.net Liz's stuff: @caboosezine + lizmasonisawesome.com + linktr.ee/caboosezine