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EPISODE · Oct 6, 2026 · 2H 20M

Roundtable_025 - This Time, It's Actually Different

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We finally stopped being lazy and brought a guest onto the Roundtable. Max Hillebrand joins Steve, Jeff, and I to talk about the absolute madness happening in the freedom tech space right now. Max has been using AI agents to solve challenging computer science problems for White Noise and the Marmot protocol. We talk about the possibility that we are moving toward a future where the average user base for a custom piece of software is exactly one person. I share how I sent my AI agents after a spam caller company to track down the CEO's personal cell phone, and Steve explains how he's automating his bar's point-of-sale system with some interesting techniques. But we don't just stick to software. We also discuss the need for open-source modular and repairable hardware. And of course, we cover the latest in the Bitcoin space. We review the latest exploits, how exchanges are handling flagged coins, and Steve pitches an incredibly clever way to measure Bitcoin's true purchasing power without ever looking at the fiat price. It was a wild conversation with the guys about where this whole decentralized, peer-to-peer future is actually heading. Chapters (00:00:00) - Episode intro (00:09:42) - AI cycle and Freedom tech update (00:38:29) - Sovereign Engineering cohorts (00:41:27) - AI, decentralization, and the global brain (00:48:33) - Responsibility, hierarchy, and decentralized companies (00:57:59) - Open source cars, power tools, and hardware (01:25:41) - Current Bitcoin drama (01:47:19) - Measuring Bitcoin purchasing power with UTXO size (01:56:29) - Marmot protocol and MLS group encryption explained Guest Links Steve Simple Nostr (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3s6a8yn8) Steve Simple on X (Link: https://x.com/stevesimple) Jeff Swann Nostr (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3sjc3bcp) Jeff Swann on X (Link: https://x.com/agoristview) Max Hillebrand Nostr (Link: https://tinyurl.com/y4bsmpkk) Max Hillebrand's website (Link: https://towardsliberty.com/) Affiliate Links Become sovereign, hold your keys, be censorship resistant with the Bitbox hardware wallet. Get 5% off everything in the store with code GUY (Link: https://bitbox.swiss/) Get 10% off the best Bitcoin board game in the world, HODLUP! Or any of the other great games from The Free Market Kids! Use code GUY10 at checkout for 10% off your cart! (Link: https://www.freemarketkids.com/collections/games-1) Host Links ⁠⁠Guy on Nostr ⁠(Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xc96ney) ⁠Guy on X ⁠(Link: https://twitter.com/theguyswann) Guy on Instagram (Link: https://www.instagram.com/theguyswann) Guy on TikTok (Link: https://www.tiktok.com/@theguyswann) Guy's Takes on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@GuysTake) Guy Swann on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@theguyswann) ⁠Bitcoin Audible on X⁠ (Link: https://twitter.com/BitcoinAudible) The Guy Swann Network Broadcast Room on Keet (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3na6v839)

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