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Nov 13, 2019 1 hr 7 min

Row The Boat

from Stanford Steve & The Bear Hosted by ESPN, Chris Fallica, Steve Coughlin

Stanford Steve & the Bear breakdown the CFP Rankings and vent about Minnesota and Baylor's ranking being so low. Bucknut is happy about the Chase Young news. Bear needs a minute to discuss the Jets. And the guys make their picks for week 12 of the college football season that include some rather big numbers. Row the boat. Ski U Mah. Go Gophers

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The underdog is howling This is Stanford Steve and the bear. Ah, yes a home team getting points. What's better than that? Welcome in week 12 plenty to discuss chase young is now back for Penn State the bear has an NFL rant I'm coming to Oxford I need a lot of questions answered the bears head of the waco and Akron finally scored a touchdown all that and I have an issue Because I like a lot of double-digit road favorites roadboat skymon go for roadboat skymon go first Roadboat skymon go go first.

How about the gophers love it. They ended up being a board pick Yes, they did how about that. What it just too much word of mouth. I just going pretty well for you know Georgia the week before Minnesota last week.

Yep. There's also another top 10 team. That's or wait No, they're not in the top 10 13. I think they're 13 which is a lot the same as you you want you're talking about Baylor You want the last night the committee basically just gave a giant middle finger to Baylor.

They have zero Respect for Baylor. How are they ranked behind both one lost pack 12 teams couple of two lost teams and Oklahoma? I get it there an underdog and they clearly made a football judgment that Oklahoma and those other teams are better than Baylor And I get it but that far behind them They've got a zero in the lost column. They've got an OPI isn't a thing But if you look at like wing they got four top 40 FBI wins and more than like the committees rankings themselves They've got two ranked two road wins over teams that are ranked in the committee top 25 One of which was at the same site that Oklahoma losses 24 point favorite and they are getting zero Hey, maybe they'll get blown at Saturday night and wake up and we won't be talking about anymore But like if I'm at rule and I'm PJ Flecht.

I'm I'm doing cartwheels as to what the committee did last night Yeah, I love it I mean you just keep throwing in your team's face and obviously work for Sky U mile last week I like why why why's Minnesota behind both of those big I don't like look or in Utah good But between them then I have a single win over team ranked in the committee top 25 They both have a loss Minnesota's undefeated and just beat the number four team according to the committee now I know they struggled early in the year, but since then they've been really good now again They're gonna go to I win win. Maybe maybe not but I'm just surprised that those two teams are being shown is a little respect Again the strength of record which is a mean there are different form They're different representations of like the SPS has one but like the the FBI version of strength of record Which is basically a metric as to how well you perform and what you achieve against your schedule Baylor is three in Minnesota is four basically showing it's hard for a power five team to be undefeated Yes, this point in the season and yeah, maybe they don't power rate higher have a SP plus rating or an FBI rating or sagrin rating or whatever Vegas rating Whatever is maybe they rate is high in those predictive measures moving forward But you've got to give those teams a lot of do what they've accomplished and achieved on the field so far Which I've always said and we've done this how many years now every year since the playoff and it's just why it Teams not get penalized more when they lose I understand Alabama lost in touch Alusa by five points last week, but at some point a loss has to Account for something more and when I mean more is it should drop you more than a team winning But where would you drop you would drop them behind? Oregon Utah like that's a thing no, I would have Minnesota and Baylor higher. Okay.

I have Alabama. Yes I might draw the line there why why not right now because I think Alabama I think it's Alabama is better than both of those teams you think I think yes, okay, and I get I get there's an achievement thing, but here's what I'll say this I think there were a lot of people that thought Alabama was gonna be for And I thought Georgia would be for and and look yeah, they lost to South Carolina I get it works and worse that loss But they still have two wins better than any of these teams have they've got a defense that's freaking filthy And the committee did themselves they saved themselves ahead of last night Either if you put Georgia for this week you basically you do penalize Alabama for losing and Look at the sketch if Georgia beats Auburn this week. They're gonna go to four anyway If Georgia loses to Auburn they're gonna fall from four anyway We're gonna have this conversation again next week whether Alabama moves to four if it's someone else up the committee They'll like you never admit that they that comes into the thinking and I'm not just saying it did but Putting Georgia it for this week save themselves a lot of PR headaches, okay, and then I got alright now I want to nitpick 11, Florida 16 Notre Dame just because Florida beat Auburn. Yeah, okay Yeah, I'd say something I'd say so be beat beat beat Auburn and then they still have a couple of other wins there in the I mean amazingly like I'm not saying it's a great win But like the Miami win looks better now because Miami's gotten yeah, I read by me last week without we yeah That was about the canes yeah like crazy thing We're talking about the playoff like one of like the things in the play in the play like the New Year's six like I'm gonna be a plop like one of those Be corrupt behind mediocre a cc team.

Yeah, it's gonna find themselves in the orange ball Absolutely. Yeah, Virginia Virginia Virginia Virginia Tech Wake Forest or Miami is gonna wind up at the orange carolines out Well, no, I guess they're not I don't think it's a good thing get to the CC tally game anymore Which would that's right? Okay, I mean it's not like you have to like they're like I forgot my coastal prep before this But like it's gonna come down to the Virginia Virginia Tech basically see who goes to Charlotte I believe of course, but like none of those teams are ranked in the committee top 25 like they don't like go further I don't believe and like go to the next highest ranked a cc team Like it's basically like whoever the orange ball wants to choose and like if Virginia is eight if Virginia is like nine and four And Miami's eight and four and like forest is eight and four like who do they take I don't know Flip a coin flip a coin. Oh, yeah, no one has a coin a cc other side of yeah other side of Clemson Roadboat Skymon go first all right at worst maybe for them.

Whoa, I shouldn't say you're getting people's hopes I shouldn't say I shouldn't say this because I don't root against teams really or 14 I root for stories and in stories line for your lines Well, I do it for my picks that is true, but the story I want Minnesota and Baylor this week He both those teams undefeated like Baylor would have to be Oklahoma twice But the worries root for Minnesota. I want to be there in Minneapolis on November the 30th Undefeated Minnesota hosting Wisconsin the ax on the line and the birth of the big-time championship game I want to be there for that you want to be there be there okay two things off of that all right now We touched a little bit on this Baylor feels a lot like Minnesota last week and one last thing on the rankings We think Alabama is all this and that and we trust our guys in the desert our guys in the desert made Alabama seven point favorite last week And our guys made Penn State a six and a half point. Yeah, that's why I play the game Okay, all right, so I don't want to hear about I'm done with the points read about if this team played this team I'm done with it. You can't that can't be a criteria.

Okay, it's great as is for talking about her. Okay, all right We agree on that one all right now all right, we've established but but but that does give a Football judgment as to like whatever the committees meant whenever they put into making a football determination as to if the goal is the Four best there has to be some definitive criteria as to who they think is simply better and why okay, all right We're clearly using the Vegas power rankings is not one of okay. Well who scares you? As a more as a possible to what do you call the two public of an underdog right right here?

We go Minnesota Minnesota yeah Baylor you think Baylor's a public dog or Auburn? I don't know if Auburn's gonna be a public dog I think people are gonna see the Georgia defense okay against the Auburn offense and wondering how George it how Auburn's gonna score points I think Minnesota has public underdog potential just because of the story and the fact that I was offensive struggled at times And I was already lost on that field to Penn State of those three Minnesota has the biggest public dog potential and Auburn has the best sharp dog potential okay, is that it's here? Yeah, absolutely and I would not be opposed at all to playing Baylor this week. No I've just doubled it me Oklahoma that Oklahoma defense is the same same Like they again can Baylor score points.

We'll see but they got dudes on that defensive line absolutely And I think they keep the ball away from them they can run football yes, and in Oklahoma lost some guys this week injury to like yeah I mean I'm gonna go back and look but I can't think there've been too many teams that have lost outright as double digit favorites in the last few years Then Oklahoma now granted they are double digit favorites in a ton of games. Yep So percentage wise obviously it's gonna work out that way, but now we're gonna now we're going to go now we're going to Down the rabbit hole only take them 12 minutes. Let's go like people Want to like Clemson they had that close call against North Carolina on the road and survived a two-point conversion like They're terrible conference road gaming and you surviving It's a mediocre team and you win got to get a plan to punch him ignoring the fact that they've won in cover every other game since They're what Oklahoma they needed a two-point to survive a two-point conversion at home They allowed 44 points whatever was against a team that has four losses and they have a loss as a 24 point favorite like When do they say people want to always say like Alabama always gets the benefit of the doubt when it comes to these games There hasn't been a team in the last 15 years that has gotten more benefit of the doubt Great 2003 of the BCS title game to blow out by Kansas State or somehow the number one team that is like in the BCS title game 2004 that they were the third undefeated team and got in ahead Auburn 2008 lost by double digits Texas Somehow they still get in the big 12-time game and the national championship game and Brafford wins the Heisman over McCoy last year They got in even though I don't know if people thought they were better than either Ohio State or Georgia 2016 I was a 15 They got in the year Ohio State was probably war deserving them had a better record One better team they want they wanted like they're like five instances right there I know by the way all five of those games. Oh come on I lose correct at least when Alabama has gotten the benefit of the doubt they made the most of the second opportunity and in I believe all three of those instances the right decision was made 2011 the rematch They were clearly the two best teams in the country 2012 You could make a cake the problem was Notre Dame wasn't one of the two best teams in that Oregon and Alabama The two best teams in the country, but your team did a little something about that there and then in 17 they were they were one of the best what they deserved to be in there over over the Ohio State team that lost twice It was yep, all right, so Rant over got it for now got it.

Okay, so you're feeling Minnesota Mike a little too much public money Everyone That was ferris's first year they're running ten that was the last time in this little one one at Kinek Ferris's first year in a one in ten season like like was probably in high school right? Mmm, I was a senior in college. Oh, so it's not a senior in high school like man I'd love to see Minnesota when but it feels like one of those is that your favorite trophy They're playing for we call it trophy. Yeah, yeah, the big old Paul Bungan acts is PJ's 38 years old 38.

Yes He's graduated. I graduated high school 18. So I'm assuming he was probably senior high school. Did you stay back?

No? No, no, no forward. No, I I was smart at one point in my life. Come on here sharp as there is but like it feels like one of those As I was talking to my up one of my Penn State guys yesterday I just asked him being that you just played those both teams on the road Iowa and Minnesota Like how we in Minnesota offensively not even close Iowa's got a better defense in Minnesota And he kind of felt like it was a kinetic special kind of game.

Yep, which mid 1917 Six 18 15 six field goals and safety is something ridiculous like that. It um, yeah I was going all in this is their blackout game, you know night game at Kenic They all love that stuff 44 and a half you over under interesting Miss on Minnesota can make plays through the air good. Well, I said that all weekend I felt talent at wide receiver joke about that Maybe not jump but you're brought up out James Franklin It said like Minnesota's receivers up and I was in and you I think you kind of like and I was like is he wrong? Mm-hmm.

I think you know now who made more money last week than we shot bait Awesome story to about how they got those guys and you know out of Bateman or the other ones out of Florida babies out of Florida and they told the Corey Davis story about how they had him in Western Michigan. He was a first-runner and it's amazing man like all all credit to him enjoy your time in Minneapolis It's awesome up there. We got to get game day there when this week and then don't don't you win this week? And then don't you even think about don't even think about losing it Northwestern?

That would get that will get you if you win this week again And you lose it Northwestern like that will get you banned forever from game day consideration like seriously We got breaking news little ass Adam gay, so we turn as a head coach 2020 That's your why that's your job. That's your Jets up I mean you would assume that Joe doesn't you you would assume he probably got Joe Douglas the job But how can you keep him there should be legitimately? What at least three wanting done's in the end of me before the gay should be one and done for the kitchen should be one and done Banjo should probably be one and done exact how it should be one done I know the Bengals stink but I what it's funny I go back and forth on a kind of a text conversation with Gil Alexander and our buddy everybody And like we talked about these coaches and how terrible some of them are like if the Bengals fire is that Taylor like who's knocking down his door and Burning up the phone life to be like oh like the Bengals fire this guy. I got a higher him like who's doing that?

I don't know. It's not a good couple weeks for the McVatry is not good not good So I understand where you're coming from there. I the bangles including the guy self. Yeah, I know it's I'm saying so there's your How to fill up.

All right go to the Rams doing their bang up man. No, no, no, no I don't care about banged up why are you giving girly and doth those ridiculous contracts and then you trade away draft picks They're jailing right like and you're moving into a new stand. You're gonna stink. You've got no money to pay Anybody you got a terrible quarterback who you have locked up for the next 90 years.

Hey, I'm feel you know what my You want NFL after that? No, I'm not I'm not my my angst is all directed towards Michigan State. I'm usually good at letting losses like get over it let them bounce off This is four days now. I think I heard from you every day since It was good during that game was 31 No, it was 28 3 and they got the ball what the six yard line it's about to be 35 3 Over ball receiver shoulder pad chest and zone up in the air interception like all right, whatever At least it'll be up 28 3 going to half and get the ball will be okay How do you let that little bomb happen at like a 28 10 still covering go down there again in the red zone?

The working trips over his own feet and thank God they got the ball back at least get the field ball I'm like at least they're still up 17 going on the fourth quarter and I'm like what at that point I was like at least they lost that right? It was yeah, I only say it really thank you Thank you. Oh, thank you. Oh my football for for the little little gift bag this morning.

Yeah, that's him Yeah, I saw a box for you over there. I love it. I love it Thanks, well, he only in Charlotte as well. Yeah, I guess bag and the boys And I look it's good when you swag enough to bear for Chris Pence penn state send me some stuff last week.

Oh, really? Yeah, oh my gift care package I did get a lot of nice words said from Minnesota I think there was a point where a lot of people thought that the Western the Western Michigan stuff the whole row the boat No, I can go a cliche catchy what blah blah whatever this guy's just salesman there a guy can go Absolutely guys and it's not cliche and corny if you if you freaking believe it and you live it and your teams buy into it It doesn't matter. I know I mean Justin feels are probably be the first team all big ten quarterback, but Tannett more It's got there's a lot of controversy like Morgan came in the end of that last year That's why because that's injury and that's what we were talking about before the year on daily wager like the big 10 West Team you take to win I had I told Minnesota think you took the time and at the time was like I want to take the favor Right, and it was like all the annex states heard of every and I was like regardless. I can be fine at quarterback and it's worked out But I'm rooting for him.

That's I roofed my roof for the story of the how great would a Minnesota if they don't think they don't make the plan I don't think anybody thinks they're gonna be all I say Indianapolis But how great would a Minnesota versus like Oregon or Utah Rose Bowl be like Utah never been to the Rose Bowl All right, that would be awesome Minnesota hasn't been there in what 50 years. I would think oh, yeah That's that would be incredible You know skimon go go for right be tough ticket all right speaking a big 10 okay, and other big names Okay, as we move along yes, fuck not breaking news your boy. You can wear your number two chase young jersey He was the one that gave him the money right long-time family friend The ladies at home guys when you go to a bowl game. I'm just gonna tell you you're gonna have a good time See what I don't get and I don't know if anybody's like pose this question I'm sure some people have on Twitter and private or whatever and I don't ultimately I don't care if this was such a good family friend Why didn't be in it and if they knew his girlfriend why wouldn't they just say to her here?

Let me give you the money just do that that takes him completely out of the loop and It's his friend family or family friend giving his girlfriend the money directly Why not just do that all I have to say is you better marry her all right do we know if they're still together? I'll get a bit on that okay. I figured you 11 warriors with it all over that right now All right, so he's back to be back for Penn State I should say he's just said up this week is there any data for off a bike getting 52 I can't imagine that there is I do know that you go back Since the BCS bros brought into play 96 there have been two power five Conference games they were there have been a 50-point spread and the favorite fell to cover both times one was I believe the last one was a Oklahoma Baylor in 2003 where they won by I have information from I just like read it instead of guess read the research read the research that did one one was Baylor, Oklahoma in 2003 Okay, and then they won by 38 or 53 point favorite and then 96 Nebraska was a 50-point favorite over Missouri And they won by 44 so those are the only two other power five games in the last since the BCS and the BCS era Would you rather have Rutgers or a new master suite? Rutgers Where are the Rutgers?

You mess is so bad They're getting 40 and a half so bad. Do you trust North Western to score 40? Yeah against I do yeah, I do I Think they kind of made his point last week against the Terps you think I think I think the message was sent think And I could kind of see them. I don't want to say going easy, but all right.

That's good point. I could probably I love Rutgers out there. I could see I could see I could see 56 seven. Okay, I could see something like that All right, the two games chase jungle of miss the highest date was favored by combined 94 and a half points I mean, yeah, that's it's it's it's good.

It's good. They're power ranking It might they don't cover against that definitely okay But we're getting inside like as much as he is the best player in college football He wasn't gonna win the Heisman even though I would take it out of my other theory you have a 30 to 1 51 was 25 But but a shot and I took another shot this week. I up the anti-oh, I'm a high-speed guy. Yep.

Oh, hope it was your burrow. Nope fields Hence they came all right. I don't know man. Michigan.

It's a 2-1. I got a shot And say Michigan big 10 title game. I think burrow won it last week I just what happens in Atlanta and to a one it last year. No, it's a little different see I think it's a little different Burrows gonna go off in a way now for a couple weeks people are gonna No, no, no, no, no games gonna mad get them get a matter and then he'll be in the SEC Championship game against a really Good defense and most likely Georgia.

I want to be doesn't play well. I think you want it last week. All right, okay We disagree speaking LSU there at Ole Miss this thing are I'm going I'm fired off should be I can't wait I get in Friday going to check out the facilities all that stuff hoops game Friday night We got Friday hoops the former row the boat school Western Michigan. Okay on the feet of 2-1.

Oh, we're gonna go check that I need a reservation at city grocery. So anybody that can help me out with Okay, okay, okay, donna. Yeah, let's do it again I Think I want to hear from the we went somewhere else for lunch earlier. I know where you Was your BBB big bad breakfast?

I did not go to BBB I was very disappointed to not do that world renowned there was somewhere else for lunch that we went is that the best game day trip in the Last ten years. It's funny because it lived up to it interesting you bring this up because prior to doing this I taped Kevin got the God you see a podcast. Oh, well plug. There's our plug there's a plug exactly I believe it'll be Friday the deal proposed it but he had brought talked about some of the the game day history And he's like what were and I said Number one would be either the first time we went to Fargo Okay, the street real awesome and that would that kind of answer the question as to why the hell is college game They go in SCS game.

Yeah, that's why I turn to see the number two was the grove Which I think you could argue might have been like the greatest day and like Ole Miss football history Yeah, starts with game day in the morning Katy Perry that the pick segment we all dressed up with our bow ties in the grove beat Alabama Insane scene and then the third one which I forgot to mention that he provided me of and I felt like an idiot for not remembering Was last year in Pullman like yeah, these guys fly. I thought he was gonna say temp for fit for fit. He followed up I'll follow it up as soon as I finish this money was you know, I can't believe I forgot that because that really that show really Example for everything that game day was like Washington State This like alumni fan group that it was like their mission to get their flag on our show every week for 15 years And for the show like by that created itself like we're here in Pullman and Rodney did an awesome job picking the site It was like this little bowl amphitheater type setting and awesome like every like you worried like shows like that wouldn't live up to like the expectation But it totally surpassed so those were the three and then he brought up in on the follow-up with like the Fargo thing And you all missed like the first time and he said it's a lot like he goes It was like when you went to temple that kind of marked their arrival like here We're shutting down the street right by independent Liberty and like for temple football game that they're hosting Notre Dame in prime time and nearly when the game like that was like Is bed of a big of a of an infomercial for temple football that you could ever have yeah I was just I that they should have been in Pullman that week 11 times 6,5 and over over yeah for sure How was all miss often no shoes not in what looking at the eye candy and stands maybe Me and at the same time I can see plumbly in that all miss offense Points this week. I'm trying to go in though.

I need to go in and see owes It's good luck. I will get in there. I will get in there. Just don't fire up your instance Instagram account Go left.

Oh, yeah, that's a point. Maybe it's off. Yeah, I kind of just get kind of piss me off last year Yeah, what are you doing? They don't know how to celebrate anymore?

I mean you went from like every Like that should not I did not play play Antonio Brown I did not play football after high school you played it freaking rose ball team in a power five Great into like there are some things that don't deserve like something's belong within the walls of the locker room in the confines of team That's a reaction to what they did last week was that yeah, that's an awful job that I will be there. I also need a tailgate to watch Auburn, Georgia at 230 local time. I need to get set up You're very demanding this week. I'm just saying you need LSU locker room access You need city grocery reservations and you need to tell get to watch Auburn Georgia.

Yep, you know what's gonna happen? I'm gonna get off I'll mark it down. I guarantee you will I can't wait to go there don't be I'm fine I just came circled since the counters came out in the spring. This was the game I want to go to and I'm going so We're gonna be there can't wait Anything else before we get into a shout out to Akron's for scoring a touchdown tonight two touchdowns It was the best thing I saw on the show last night, so I'm fired up for Akron Oh, I went to what they're going to hire total last night But what 59 points scored in the game or number of fans in the stands?

Oh No doubt no doubt if you watched it. You know what I'm talking about all right I like Thursday night match in this week. Yeah, I can't stay in the points against Buffalo You don't like any favorites in the Mac. That's not true I like some I like used to Michigan last night someone asked me I said I don't like it wouldn't be like column worthy of a conference in their own Yeah, but still I guess if I had to play both games I play Eastern Michigan Western Michigan like I don't necessarily love them But there's no way Western coach.

There's no way. Yes. He can there's no way you could play Akron And I had first half under I had a sweater a little yeah, I had Miami I had my own while last week against Ohio and I thought Western Michigan was better than Ohio So that was I answered some of that question. They both won but I Share on the flash is a moment at home.

I don't see why that numbers and numbers seemed up to six I just I know Buffalo is red hot, but but Kent Kent State's played I mean they come in home They play pretty well at home this year. All right. There's an early leaf or you know that one might make the column too. All right We've got a lot of ranch and like yeah demands and asks So but I'm giving you many picks on it for you I like another week night game Friday night the herd at home I'm going against the the capital of cover town and the capital of bad beats Textors and Russell travels, but they're going up to Marshall.

I like Marshall. I like what I've seen I think they played better competition. I think it's gonna get making better prepared for this scenario here So I'll lay the two and a half of Marshall. I actually wouldn't mind that happening Because I'm gonna need total well No, I think Louisiana Tech if they don't play well this week the fact that they play UAB coming up Yeah, I think that would give them a little bit more of a in urgency a little bit more of an edge and I'd like their chances to beat UAB Okay, because we need one more UAB lost to everyone was worried about all UAB there six and one and I'll look out or whatever I think happen to lose to saw the missing put up a deuce in the game Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that we know when this week that play you tap this week They'll beat them But I feel pretty good about our chances to get a loss between Louisiana Tech and Under eight and a half can Marilyn go to East Lansing and win All right, I say I better chance I have Marilyn going to East Lansing and winning or Marilyn at home against Nebraska What what happens this week in Michigan, Michigan State?

I don't know it'll work. Yeah, I mean that seems like a massive thing So I don't know what's going on there. I I think Marilyn going There's a chance you get both I What's gonna happen what's gonna happen if Nebraska gets drilled at home this week? That's awesome.

Like they're they're done. They're there It's funny. We talk about Michigan State and Nebraska. It's interesting We talked about UAB with the totals all those super trendy teams over the wind total Nebraska, Miami, Michigan State, Missouri, Texas Washington all down get under is over with three games to go over zero sweat zero That's nice.

I filed that away for next year high number unders low number overs. Come on Marilyn and he texted They get the four two I think you're gonna get one of those two Marilyn games. We have a member of pirates You said it like you I get a text from you again. I like last week I saw the score and you're like one don't like I'm not even not even paying attention not even their boys doing work I mean one of her streets on top of my players a week.

He is doing work. He is doing work I was first and a whole nailer Damn, you're damn right you were over a year ago. You're damn right you were okay kids a player I still feel We're not gonna get the wind if you have four and a half You're gonna get the win, but we unfortunately how do you five that I got both so I'm open to they'll beat you I actually had to lay to better be and by the way talk also hasn't quit which is that's a pretty impressive job by them They put their and every they should have been SMU Memphis and UCF you see other high number I didn't go under on this Sure, so I know that was it. Ah that was like you talk about a team that has had every reason in the world to quit And I thought after the the Memphis game that they gave away like going to Tulane the final look I don't get drilled and Tulane was lucky to cover the game But like that's a team that they have played every week in credit to those kids.

I couldn't agree more But I do think UCF well, I mean I think we're gonna get the five and get the push with UCF. Alright, you see you rather take it Alright enough rambling for us. Sorry. It took so long But we had a lot of things to get off our chest a bear's fired up had an NFL updated yet to get in but we'll get to our picks Right after this.

Alright, so we gave a couple leans out. You're not are you officially going Kent State? Yeah, you're gonna get that Alright, yeah, I was the six at home. I'm gonna go Marshall minus the two and a half at home on Friday night Uh anything other week night stay in a go state man like last week.

Oh my god Every year they last year was last year was you on LV every year watching like you just knew it was gonna happen I was also watching Wyoming cuz I gave out boys here How about that goes up to 16? Yeah, I didn't get that people watched Boise like the last five six weeks Like yeah, they blew up Wyoming was way overvalued like I put Wyoming and Louisiana Tech in the same You like Boise last week. Yeah, I get my out. I thought you gave up with me.

No, I thought you went the other way on there No, I'm sorry. That's all right. I mean, I had a good number two's 12. Yeah, I'm off at 16 closing line value, right?

So um, yeah, like when I saw that number gets team like I'm like wow, I honestly thought you went you went mustard No, no, it's my Boise is not I just don't know why only didn't have the quarterback I just thought boys you know, they always get one late in the year That's just a blowout and I thought I thought I thought that was that one so And I do have a Boise undertake it for the season two. So we're gonna need another 10 a hook So you need a little you need another loss to use that State on the road. I think is that one of them. Yeah, we'll see.

I have an issue I like a lot of the whole digit. I like a lot of double-digit road favorites Well, this could be a point in the year where if you're laying points against teams that basically have nothing to play for You could be in a good spot That's sort of what I was thinking but there's some of those teams are still alive And then another and we mentioned Chase young earlier But the other one and this it has to do with this player being game time decision Which I totally think he might not play and that's to it if to a place. I like Alabama I I like how Saban is now like he could tell his team, you know what guys we've been here before let's go play Let's just go kick ass. All right.

We're going to Starkville They got nothing down there that could come close to us Let's get the ball to the right guys and let's go put up our 50 burger and get out of here And I think the defense will be obviously better than it was last week Which is just still amazing to see what else you did But that's all depending on to it to it I mean obviously the line will go down if he doesn't play but it's gonna be too late and you know you guys want our picks on Wednesdays and we're trying to go as much as possible, but I will say if to a place I would lay the 20 with Alabama What do you think I just I have? Very little confidence that Mississippi State score so that that would seem to to make sense I know there've been some games recently in the series that have been close Mississippi State defensively has given them problems But I think a good number of those guys are gone especially on the defensive line So yeah, I could see that I could see Alabama being a pretty public play this week Just to bounce back off that loss and with the thought process being that they're gonna need to blow people out and win out To make a see-up here, but I don't think I could play Mississippi State No, not at least right now. We are on Wednesday not knowing what's gonna go on the next couple of days Other road favorites. I think Wisconsin has the goods to go to Lincoln and and do it to Nebraska I don't think Robinson sounds or feels like he's gonna play and he's Nebraska's ultimate game-breaker And I think he's a huge guy to have against a team like Wisconsin Air Force is a team What I mean your Colorado State team.

I still don't know how they went to Fresno in one look at Fresno Holy moly they are up and down This is gonna be a situation now where I'm gonna be here for someone this week and then hopefully I can Decide in the last game of the year to I just want to set my push before an eight or or or hedge or hedge and just totally get off it Yeah, and I want to go back and get my money with Kentucky after last week. They're a Nashville given 10 You see I don't like that. I should not have lost last week No, no, they shouldn't have but but their offense is terrible right now That was as bad as you could play I mean, you're up 13 3 and then you go down and you lose a long down slate to win and cover Vandy's how about the end of last week you see what moly did I didn't see any time out Then if Andy tried a 51 yard field goal, okay And like 54 to 3 or whatever it was 49 3 and then Mullen called a couple timeouts to send one in All right, I like that 56 nothing good. You like that.

I do like that. I like I like that Mullen So yeah, you know top five. Yeah enough of my double-digit trash on the road I might leave just remember how everyone was so down on Vandy You lose at home to UNLV in the following week with a Missouri. I think it could be a similar type thing this week Okay, let's see bounce back.

What do you got circled? I mentioned Kent State. I mentioned I like Dan Mullen. I don't like it this week Really Brian's gonna give it a go.

So I like Missouri here getting the Missouri is done pretty well against them in recent years I know there's a new sheriff in town and Gainesville, but you're talking about three awful performances in a row on the road You come home. I'm not Like I talk about team lane seven points on the road against a team that hasn't played well against Missouri in recent years Brian's gonna play Kind of has a kind of has a like Yeah, it's just circle the Missouri's like one last stand this year to try and salvage something pull a home upside over Over Florida. I'm gonna be on Missouri plus the seven for sure. Okay.

I have a one game I would like to discuss and that is your Hoosiers I'm not gonna sing it at in the end Penn State. That's fine. You don't have to I this feels like I mean you want to talk about a let down I just 14 and a half in the end is a good team man and when you listen to coaches talk after a game and Like the days after they play you know what that weekly press conference after playing Indiana or the teams that are playing Indiana in the coming week They all say the same thing I can't believe how hard Indiana plays and that to me is a tribute to their head coach because that's just awesome stuff Every coach wants their team to be that team and Indiana is this year not the most talented But they get laid out there. I think it was the first time they've clinched a bowl game and they clinched it in October Yes, like in it was maybe the first time I was it was or might have been the Whatever that was this is early No, it would have been the second okay.

What in the second November second all right Peyton Ramsey's the quarterback for the Hoosiers This could be his third time playing against Penn State like how many times you can't say that anymore in the sport You know, it's just a weird the 14 and a half seems like a lot I just in the end scored 30 points in six consecutive games Penn State's playing a ranked opponent for the fourth time and fit five games Like I just feel like that stuff kind of adds up to show I'm not saying Penn State's gonna lose but 14 in a hook is I think is a nice number if you do like in the end I know you're probably gonna go no comment no no no no no no no no we're back together and okay supportive of each other But the one that you do need to wear at least in terms of outright I mean there is a reason why they've lost 48 of their last 49 road games against ranked big tent teams and they're one in 21 I believe in this series 2013 Not only blemish I believe and then what was there what was the ridiculous game that they should have won? Oh, that was a six was it 16? Yeah, where they should have beaten Penn State and then like somehow yeah, not only did they not win the game They also come over sir. Yeah, it was and Ramsey in Indiana.

They really lead the big ten in throwing yards over 300 games So you saw what Minnesota did throwing the ball against Penn State? It's just an interesting matchup. I thought the line was interested there. I just Tough to go against Penn State at home, but man, that's a lot of points for a team That's been a really good surprise this year You sir T box.

I'm considering just laying it again with Clemson. Are you especially with sauropian out for weeks? That's a really really bad loss Clemson 34 and a half like I Right, right no no not they were ranked last week. Oh, they lost for the lost Virginia Tech I'm considering laying it with a with Clemson.

I think that Wyoming number might be a little too high We're talking about Wyoming before maybe that's why I was confusing you like you like Utah State certainly six and a point favorite Yes, Wyoming. Yeah, I know I mean I think that's a little bit of a reaction to why I'm blowing that game last week And then Utah State getting a win. Okay. I think that number probably is a little overblown Navy Notre Dame seven.

Yeah, I think it's either and again You can do what you want but this feels like one of those games where it's either Navy wins the game outright or Notre Dame wins My double digits. I don't think this is like a to the gun luckily Irish two ball goes off the tuba sets up Last second field goal and wins. I think either Navy wins outright or Notre Dame by double digits interesting since they ended that 40 somewhat game losing three to 2007 the four times that Notre Dame has been favored by single digits in this game They have lost three of the four outright and the other one was a was a Six point win is a four point favorite that was decidedly so when the spread is this low in this robbery. It's so Irish You know, no, it's been going.

Oh, that's right. It's been more than that. Navy has been the the other the right side So again do it with as you please We talked about for him is there a little bae we hit on as well. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to taking Baylor Okay, that's my why's too late and given five at temple.

Yeah, that's a prize meet I know that one written down like tell I mean I watch in that game last week. Yeah, they're all fences I miss right now, but their defense is really good. They pulled a couple of upsets already at home I mean I'm not gonna have to go back through and like read up on this I didn't have time to look at this game couple things that surprise me Yeah temples two and five against the spread against winning teams teams were winning record Okay, you see up one in there and bloom out And temple's also one and six against the spread in the last seven following an ATS win that kind of scares me I might be pumping their chest a little bit. But they've won four straight They're looking to win the four straight in this series.

They haven't scored more than 21 in the last three games Tulane's run game to over 260 per game The question I think is gonna be temple seems to give a bunch through the air and that's surprising because I like their talent a lot Yeah, the year in the second area as they slow down Maryland, but that line and it's going up I think I saw it like two and a half three and then it's up to five Temple circled another one. I'm going back and get my money the bill at Raleigh against NC State that that being there last Well, wait, there's gonna be less people there this week. Oh, I don't know There was nobody there I mean I feel bad because they're trying yeah, but they just had so There's a lot of teams like that see real So I look at Louisville minus four there NC State 55 10 to Clemson. They lost 44 to 10 against week 45 24 BC That's their last three games one and six against the spread in the AC in conference play NC State smoked them last year.

That was a week patrino was fired So that Louisville players might have a little something to back their heads Louisville's more. No, I want to thank him. Yeah Louisville's four no against the spread last four road games The one thing is that that the big monster dude back then the left tackle for Louisville's gonna probably be a high draft pick He tweaked his foot last week. I'm not sure he's gonna play so they rotate guys up front Louisville So they're not they're gonna have a kid boom who's rotated a bunch in with the starter So I don't think it's just not your best player.

There's not like they're losing or starting a kid That's never played before so I still lean Louisville there. They're trying to eat one more for a bowl game And they should get it. I know NC State is still bulle-eligible I just I don't feel like feels like they're going in opposite directions One of the other double digits I'm just going down that I thought you were you might give out was a m Minus can I actually like the other side? I was just like I can see that being like the South Carolina lost to abstain All they stink they're terrible getting some guys back this week.

Mm-hmm seems like I Just I mean as good as the teams are at the top and we talked about those teams in the rankings And as bad as the teams are at the bottom with our new masses in our Akron There's so many teams from I mean 25 to 60 in the country if you want to rank them all the way out Hey, it's funny because I was looking at the rankings last night and seeing Texas back in there and certain other other teams I was state is five and four, but if you look at their power They're their sixteenth in the football power index in terms of power rings part Yeah, and there's seven point favorite over the team That's what nineteen from the college will play 25 like that they are they a lot probably Washington might be is in there as well Like the greatest difference between like what your record is as opposed to what like your true power rating is I upset Some I don't want to say upset, but I think I'd be depressed like a they're the Last 15 years there have been only been three teams that have lost At least three games in a season by one or two points one as I was state this year and then comically the other two are The brass teams 2009 in 2005 The reaction from the number has to fans was it was so funny because they were like I didn't even need to like know Like who it was who the other it seems he said there only been two other teams I didn't even need to know to read the sentence to know it was the brass I knew it was the brass 2009 that ridiculous Virginia Tech game like there was so many of them so up Wow. Yeah, yeah What the cyclones have done this year has been and they were my super pick further Well, we said I had bail you and I was dating and someone looks like they got a win out to get their win total 7 I mean to be a win they could still go waiting for but I mean those wins are there right there. They got it one last week. Uh, you like you like you like like how this week?

I had to stay away from me. I Was probably back those two teams when they play the stuff that happens is mind-boggling to me So that's just that's just stay away from me. I need I need a seat I I'm not sure let's just go home this week. He's going home this week.

Oh, so water That's a really if you get a chance read some of the comments You said about those two guys talking about each other this week I mean gunnie based said we butted heads a lot and in the end, you know, he was a head coach a little boss So I just wonder if this first of all I like the over in this game This feels like an over game to me. I understand a receivers out from home state, but both are off by weeks Jubus doing his thing with you know, leads the country in rush yards 200 over 220 last time out against them Was that a good T. C. Oh, yeah, that was a Patterson game when he gave it up Puke on the other side.

I think he needs like a hundred For 2000 last time we saw KU they got blown out by Kansas State But their their offense has been good on the road Oklahoma State's won nine in the series, but 65 and a half that feels like an over game to me It does I just so I had that one circle too What else I Got nothing else right about Herman as an underdog Iowa State's better than them. I think so too. I mean you talk about injuries also like look at the team That Texas had out against LSU and look at what they're playing with now Yeah, they got to say got some of those guys back last week did it and we're very fortunate to win they were hey We set it before the season the conference They were not gonna end the playoff because the conference was deeper than it's ever been in the last couple years So if you I mean I hate to say it you're gonna do a money line Cal Yeah, you know, I was watching in state is circled with Stanford Odebo's out Antoine the safeties out You need and Stanford's already light in the secondary talent wise anyway And the way was it was gonna throw the ball around them And it's just been a bad matchup for Stanford last couple years really bad leeches had his way throwing the ball Mintry last year came from behind and won the year before they got exposed up there So I feel like I watch say what you want about leech what he still has the receivers and Gordon's still good enough to do it for me Stanford's offense was anemic last week against a Roodle Colorado defense, so I would definitely lean Washington terrible loss for Washington state last week. Oh I love the call did you see it?

Oh, yeah? I read I read the should have been on the 35 going in so they're the ball and what their own eight Yep, it was a six or eight point game at that time. Mm-hmm. I think ever gonna say they got to be known for horrible I was just saying anything because they got screwed at sea last year, too.

Oh What else money line? I mean Take Missouri on the money line take a shot there maybe take the three dogs that I Can't say I played them I played I played as anything. Yeah, they got all four of those dogs are worth I think maybe two of them when I write and you make some hey I'm interested to see what Cincinnati does on the road. I just feel south Florida's I mean good for getting back into it.

They're there. They're done I mean their schedules brutal those finish they play the top three teams in the league So this could be I said last week with temple. That's why I like I like you as a week to think in that Maybe they could maybe get one of these three They just couldn't block temple you late nine and a half of Duke Syracuse's awful. Yeah, they are They were ranked start the year if Maryland has accomplished nothing else this year It accomplished Syracuse of the honor of being the worst ever college game to host It's a circus.

Oh, yeah, right. You're right. We wouldn't do things I did mention a couple weeks ago. What we were talking about UCLA line what it would be when they go to Hawaii.

I was on my list of 21 right? You have you have a future in this business and do you just do you talk like do you Talk to you talk in Oregon have to keep their foot on the gas knowing that they're not playing they're not they don't have a good win Yeah, I think they do and here here's are you surprised at Oregon? I think the perception out there is that Oregon is better than Utah like I really like people like many people like debate it like I Don't know man. I thought Utah's pretty damn good and the losses Moss didn't play basically the entire like I think Utah I think was it Lindomann?

I think who said that Utah would be favored. Huh? I might I can remember if it was Marley or like one of like said that they would have Utah at least last week This life favorite I'm sorry Like I think all these assumptions like the pack 12 and how the playoff raises effective is and I'm guilty of it too Because I brought up the Auburn Oregon thing like I think people like we're focusing on the Oregon lost Auburn and like just assuming That it's gonna be Oregon that wins the pack 12. I don't know man.

Utah's been since the since that loss in SC What they've wanted covered every game by that your defense is so good Like I don't know here's what I'm worried about if if and again, I don't know if you have Noticing I don't know if anywhere whether it's Vegas or faraway places has odds to make the college football playoff still up I think if they do exist I'd be curious to see what Utah's prices Yeah, because I can see the favored scenario of LSU Clemson, Ohio State winning out those three are in Georgia Falls for number four and Utah being in a discussion with Alabama for that number four spot And maybe the committee does go with the more deserving team Because they want a conference championship in Alabama. I don't know it might be worth an investigation I don't know if those numbers exist. I'm worried that both defenses are so good for these two teams that we get a game like last year. Oh, god No, oh god.

No, I'm gonna say oh god. Oh, that was so uh All right, just throwing it off. Please. Please don't please don't let that happen Uh, bucken.

I got a question for you. Are you more worried about Penn State and Columbus or Michigan and Ann Arbor? Come on The answer has to be obvious. Oh my fast.

It's always the team But man, the weird things have happened with Penn State, but I just You don't fear him. No, but there's a how you want that game last year there. Oh, oh, I do Well, that's the crazy thing Penn State won the game that they had no business winning and lost the two games that they should have won And that game that they won maybe saved James Franklin's coaching there He was on the hot seat when that game happened. Yeah And I made that analogy the other night like Minnesota this year kind of reminds me a little of Penn State from a couple of years ago I mean Penn State had the losses.

Yep, but struggled earlier in the year. Yep Got it back against me. They were freaking out right now. I was freaking home underdog against Maryland Yes, well, they beat on the state.

Yes, and then that Ohio State game the block changed everything Totally right and then they ran it out and went to the Rose Bowl I mean, I'm not maybe the same thing happened with it. Maybe the Penn State game Minnesota struggled early against all those non-conference names could have lost all three of them But they won in their biggest stage finally the win against Penn State on their home field Maybe this spurs them onto the Rose Bowl. He's got a cool. I love it.

It's a good app Penn State Then it's not okay, so stop trying to come up with scenarios where you could get an excuse if your team loses No, there's no excuse they said smack both these teams. All right. There we go. They will They will smack both just the way they say they will go up to Ann Arbor and smack Michigan.

Mm Wish I could send his clip to our ball, but he doesn't follow me on Twitter anymore. That's never a nice of them. I know Um I had something else. What the heck was I got to take the UMass over again Three money.

Yeah, yep If this is a week if there's a week it's not gonna come in. It's this one. I'll tell you that and you know and you know it will Because I mean like last night enough to turn Can't do it. Um all right.

So you're going to wake up and go to wake up looking forward to it Good text my son there. Yeah, we got a place that we got we got a place that up there at the end Friday. Hey, nice. Hey, now it's a They might be getting spooked up or come on.

Come on Steve. They might make an appearance Saturday on the show Like building your own. They should build you a real game I would do it depending on where where I'm living next year. I would love to enjoy it.

Do my fix it up Was it synergy is it an ABC show? No, no, HD TV No, no, I'm all about HD TV. All right Disney app we got our Disney app engine hidden potential love it or listed. Well, Jasmine absolute absolutely.

All right. All right. Okay, come on Probably brothers. Come on.

I watch more of that than I watch more of that than doing the NBA No, I heard that they haven't started Hasn't been hasn't been too good The other morning and the next next front office not happy with start them. I go. Why would you be your team sucks? You're the one responsible for putting a team together.

All right, big my cap. You recap Roll the boat sky. Go. Go first.

Maybe but I'm worried they're gonna be a public owner I might take them in my pool. So I will just go say well, that's the story bear story for the story Kind of like for the brand. Yeah, it's a brand. Okay.

All right. I'm leaning over in Oklahoma state Kansas game I like Louisville. I'm lean and temple. I'm not sure about that one weird number really weird and I like Marshall and you mess over All right.

I am absolutely on 10 state getting the six because Buffalo getting me zara getting the seven against Florida And then you could talk me into or I could talk you maybe into or maybe by Time I write the column late late late tonight or hit the board on Saturday morning. Think about taking vanity plus the points. Wow. All right.

Um, I think about maybe taking Cal plus the points. Okay, think about taking Navy on the money line Um And I consider taking Baylor plus the points as well. Yep. Me too.

I'm gonna definitely definitely on Missouri. Definitely on Kent state Okay. I'm also if you want that road favorite teaser, Alabama, Wisconsin air force And Justin Fields to win the Heisman like eight to one. Yeah, take a shot roll the dice.

That's what we do here Um, all right. You have fun. Oh miss oxford. I'm coming for you be ready.

You heading any quite. Oh, I'll have fun Any questions hit me up. I'll be around all weekend. Uh bear take us away.

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