I mean, it moved me from. No, but I do think if Vince actually survives this, if this whole rigmarole doesn't kill him off, he can do it for anything. Well, yeah, the guy's in better shape than I probably was when I was 20. You know what?
I mean, after the time, I'm still always really suspicious of that... That magazine covering this? Oh, the one where he's like... He's talking chat.
It's like, I'm sorry, I'm still not moving. Yeah, but you know what, he's done there, aren't you? We know the secrets of that now. Like the dehydrator, but don't they?
Do you think maybe like because he... Can't watch me sniffing, God. Doesn't matter. Do you think maybe he tried to do the incest story?
So it's like he said Triple H. I'm going to take your own child off you. And now that could be like... It's sort of your body and my head.
Yeah, maybe. The incest angle is going to be like a weekly segment now. Well, actually, I've looked at him, not that any of him are anywhere near that, but I looked at the strangest WWE storylines ever. And they're not that weird, we know him anyway, but I thought he'd be fun just to kind of go through each one and shut about it a little bit.
Yeah, I know. So do you think now with Vincent the old Corona, he's in like a Vader style cryo chamber? Well, like Michael Hayes is just... I don't know why he's a picker every time.
I know, because he looks like he could get picked on. Don't either. And he's a little hot, just stood outside the chamber and just goes, just comes up and he's like putting Vince together. Like, that Vader.
Yeah, absolutely. But without that. He just comes out, yeah, he just comes out naked as the day he was born. Because he's been floating in water.
Yeah, he's got like a salt bath thing. I don't know, like isolation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sensory deprivation time, that's it.
And that's why he's always on it. Because he deprives his senses for like 23 hours a day. And it just comes out of the rest of all his ideas, his fucking mad ideas. Well, he's been floating in space with his little fucking chamber.
He just sees the fucking Brock and Goldberg after come back every year. Yeah, that's what he sees. Do you think that's like Harry Potter being sent back to the fucking Primmot Drive? To recharge?
It's like Brock and Goldberg coming, like, gives Vince like, like, you can fight off the dementors. Yeah. I think maybe Brock's got some on him. Jekyll, Jekyll, that's what it is.
Yeah. Yeah, I think he has. I think he's got some on him. Well, the fuck's Goldberg gone in?
I thought no, because Goldberg wanted to wrestle in front of his kid, Denny. So, where's all from Brock? No, Brock just didn't get his Brock hat children. I don't know.
Probably. He only married to stable. Yeah. I was get stable.
I'm Michelle McCool, like, super, super mixed up. How? I don't know. If you said that, well, if you said that, well, if they were both in the room, stable would come and be shit out of you.
I don't know. Like, in my head, I get them really confused. And because you know why? It's because I don't see them.
They're just these names, because they're partners. The two big guys. So they're interchangeable as these non-ent Ad proceeds I don't see any more on TV. No.
That's way. Okay. Yeah. Because, I could, I literally couldn't pick stable.
Yeah. Why. What's called a stable? That might be my name.
You're saying it wrong? Anyway, it's stable sounds better than stable. And not an estate bepepe! Is stable sounds like it's you as a cock!
No, no. popup a Keep going back. Or uncomfortableARs. one of them things about like, no I'm confusing myself.
I don't know but yeah I wouldn't know if I fell over her, genuine though, she looks like she blonde. Yeah that's it. That's all I know. We should watch um I think you trust me when you're 14.
Yeah. Just pretty good matching that with Tory. Just imagine I'm coming out like in fucking phones and there's a lot of that. Yeah that puts me off going back to be honest.
What? She did. So stable slash stable. Yeah.
Sable. She was the first one to do a move on to my knowledge. Okay. Because she was she had some thing going on with Mark Miro where he was being really possessive over the crowd were like more into her than they were him and in the end she piled on him for the stable bomb.
Nice. And that got like a massive pop. So that's if you know if there was ever a time to capitalize on it there that was it. Yeah.
I understand it. Yeah. What do you want? What number will I?
92 92 yeah still uh still in lockdown. Self isolation. Oh started. Oh right yeah.
Yeah fuck it. Let's go. Why not? Why are you still codding?
Oh well we'll just do that every week. I think. Yeah. I'm sat down now.
That's over there. He's recording. Fuck it. If it sounds good.
You should be really professional this. Hello. There's not that music for a good 90 episodes. Still you know it was good.
Blue was it blue? Something? Blue Fox music? I don't know.
But yeah no not anymore. Can't be honest. A few people have messaged saying that they're not. If we sat up on YouTube again then they won't get fucking taken down because it's like 10 seconds of shins getting like a more music on there.
Which as bad ass is at what? I do love the old intro theme slash intro for you know. Just what all the podcast do. I'm asking.
Should we go? Should we go? Yeah come on. No you two.
Nice two. Hello everyone and welcome once again to RTM Wrestling episode 92. It's a weekday isolation. Yep.
It's a day. Wednesday night. Wednesday night. Wednesday night.
Board. So let's do it. It's been a day off for you hasn't it? Weird day off.
So what I'm doing at the moment. What I'm trying to do in between getting distracted by the nightmare that is FIFA. Oh god. Such a shit game.
Do you know what it's so shit. It's the worst game I've ever played any FIFA worst game but for some reason. Just can't kick it. It's like smart.
Oh I know I do that a lot. I don't know what I'm gonna do. You make scrapums when I'm done. I've got no idea I'm doing them and if you didn't acknowledge it go.
Would you not notice that? No. Not at all. I did want me triple H for the week.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. After you'd noticed it.
Yeah. So what I want to be doing with this self isolation shit when I'm not working is going from Dark Souls remastered to Sekiro. I'm currently about a third of the way through Dark Souls one. I'll just start a blank town.
Anybody who's played that. But yeah that's what I want to do. But for some reason I'm not doing it. I keep going back to FIFA and fucking Disney plus no.
Yeah Disney plus well that's I mean you've been a lot more productive than me because at least kind of playing a game is. Well you've been working. Yeah I know but it's just been work. It's just work.
I'm not ready to fucking book. But you don't get scheduled days off though. So that's the difference with working. Everyday feels like a working day.
Yeah so like at any time when you because I feel a little bit like that now I like today when I was starting I was like bored a bit. I was like well that's what we're working. Imagine if you'd if you'd about to find today fucking day three of like day four of working for Mo where when you don't feel like I'll just do a pun and say set some calls. I think I'd be really worried about it.
I'd be worried about it. Super worried about like he's getting on his own entrepreneurial but what we do. Yeah I wouldn't don't get paid anymore. I don't know if I'm.
Never find me. You've never said anything negative about it. No I don't. So I'm not going to sign on before to check or shift them on tomorrow.
And I did get a little message from the manager just with the question back. I'm saying what? Yeah yeah what you're doing on and I just thought just checking the shirt. But I set myself to not working.
So I'm like I'm active. They're all over it out. Checking everyone's not. It's because the board is board's book thing.
That's what it is. But like as you usually I'm going to literally I shouldn't know. It's bad enough I said why you work. So I was like three people listen to us.
Yeah yeah yeah. Well yeah the um that's what I do. And I also watch a bit wrestling today. Yeah.
So we watched some of her. This week's. Yep. And I say some because I was really enjoying myself up until a certain point.
Well the bit before that I was enjoying so the whole Brock Lesnar Paul Heyman promo. So that work was fine. AJ Sal's promo. Brilliant.
The match that we showed from Royal Rumble was really good. 2015. Yeah because like when that first came on I was like I've got no idea what the leading to this is. Because at least when they showed the Royal Rumble match it was kind of yeah yeah but this made absolutely jack shit.
So I was like what the fuck are they showing this 2015 Cena Brock set for all these match for. And then kind of billing it like oh it's Seth Rollins first shot at a title. It's like I'm gone. He's going against Kevin Owens not even for a title.
What you've been about. So you're just doing it for the sake of doing it basically. But then I really enjoyed the fucking match. Like you know I was literally for nothing.
Is it nothing to do with WrestleMania? Anything that's happening in WrestleMania? No I can say that what we were saying this was when it went to commercial break and they were saying all coming up tonight. Seth Rollins no no no no no.
Now back to when Seth Rollins had his first opportunity at the WWE title. The Universal title. Really tenuous fucking link. But the match itself was really good.
And I was properly into it. Yeah because I was working while it was on and it looked better than I remembered when we watched it. I feel like because we had such high hatred for Cena at that point. I'm broad.
Yeah not as much of a brocco at that time but certainly with Cena that it was a bit like oh fuck off Cena. It was actually pretty good. It was really good. I mean there was a few times I noticed that Cena was just like being a traditional Cena.
Like being a bit clumsy. I'm talking forever. Oh my god. When the move that came out of the chat the half an hour long chat was a roll up.
But you know but yeah no I really enjoyed it. I thought it was tough. Do you think the reason I've got a theory as to why the show the show that much. I'm going back to Vince again.
Vince is actually now he's gone into a vegetable esque coma like state. Medical industry. He's putting himself in it. It's not really he's just sitting there.
Okay. Like one full of the cookies and their style just like just staring. Like old school Linda but man. Yeah yeah yeah.
He's gone full Linda and all they're doing is like now trying to get him out of it like look Vince we're gonna put on one of your favourite matches with your favourite people. Oh that's genius. And like come on Vince here we go. It's the crowds not there but we've put a bit of crowd and put one of your favourite ones in.
We're just gonna work our way through and he's just waiting for him to react. He's trying to adsorch in his eyes and shit. It's like when when booking oh he doesn't kick out. That would have done all the words.
Well like it's like three AAs of a kerbsnog and still didn't get pinned. He just you see a little flickering. He's like broks a fucking robot. Just wait for him to show a Roman Reigns one.
The saving that. Do you think oh no this is bad this. This is bad. You know I feel like it kind of stops myself because well like you say Vince it was in an actual coma.
If you played Roman Reigns' music would it wake him up? Well I mean you know it hasn't it's not so far. That's where I really wanted to go. I was gonna say that's not so bad but then it's like you're always sick.
Just get in slow erections up. In time to do it. Do it. Do it.
Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.
Do it. I think yeah I think that's what they're trying to they're trying to appease it and by putting these old matches on so that you can cheer him up. So remember the good old days he's probably like I'm over. This is it.
We're all going down like the Titan. Well he hasn't really asked us just snapped and sold three and a billion dollars worth of slack. Even that'll be like starting like a dressing gown just like with chocolate all over his face getting fat and he's like forget it. It's over.
He's eating so brown. He's driven to Texas and he's completely naked. I imagine he's losing it. He's losing it big time.
I think he thinks this is it. This is it. It's done. I bet there's been a few conversations around him after peeling off the ceiling a little bit.
I think in all honesty though I don't think he is like that. I think he's probably just really fucking angry. But it's just so mad. But when he's mad at coronavirus so that's why I wouldn't be surprised if it's going to be next WrestleMania is going to be Roman Reigns vs.
Coronavirus. Well this is the thing like if he had a wrestler like just you know they get that what's the guy we know next name? Do you want to remember him? Joe's Holland.
No. Be up Joe's Holland. He's a national treasure. What's his name?
Elsworth. Elsworth yeah. So they bring Elsworth back and just call him Corona right. So Corona comes down to the ring and just gets fucking battered.
There's about 30 of them all doing the finishes on him and he's like and that's what they do. Vince is just laughing. He's on commentary on his own and all the commentary is just him laughing. He's just crying laughing.
Well like Reign spares him. Reign Mysterio's like waiting on the set. Everybody's lying. Everybody's like it's like airplane.
They're all lying in the tuck. Oh that'd be top. That'd be top. They should do one of those vignettes like they did with KFC.
When they have the Colonel Sanders wrestling. Oh yeah. It should be one of them vignettes where they dress somebody up as Corona. I don't know what you mean.
See the problem is you gotta be careful. You've got to be the Corona virus. Yeah you do. I mean it's got a no mark but then you got to be really careful.
The person who beat don't end up getting Corona. It's like now Roman Reigns is in so I've got a lot of them all pin him. No one wants to call him. No one wants to call him.
No one wants to call him. No one will just smack him with a kind of a mistake. Yeah, there you go. Kind of a mistake.
So you can social distance him. Kind of a six. Okay completely. Yeah I did just have him ahead of Wrestlemania 37 Roman Reigns.
It's a trip not a triple threat. It's not a trip. Wait. It's three people want to get one against one against one is that triple threat.
It's a triple threat Roman Reigns versus Corona virus and cancer. Oh Jesus. He's gonna beat him all. Well he's beat one of them.
He's beat one of already well it's already beaten cancer comes back it's like this time oh my god everyone's who's who's who's talking cheering Corona and cancer though well I think we depend depends who plays corona and cancer so if you get stop also you've got things like answer he's gonna get a chair that will be regardless of what what you know put put a hit on the stash on that guy and you still get a chair that I'm afraid you might be right on that one he's talking about you often getting warm now and laughing so much but it's not inappropriate we're talking about a few inappropriate I know I know it's terrible but like if anyone's offended by it you know sorry I was gonna say we do feel back chuck and cheese chuck and cheese fuck what we're even talking about then chuck and cheese that's a really good attack team it is chuck and cheese to tell the opposite yeah but that's not how they'll do it not like someone who does that's exactly what they'll do they'll have somebody with somebody's a weightlifter below the chorcoise and cheese will be dressed as a cheese like old school altsnow and Steve Batman with head cheese they've got a pygmy slapping his ass in time cheese I probably want to dress as a baby belt although we don't like a blood platelet I don't know what I'm sure blood platelet would be the most acceptable thing that people would probably be going to a big red ball I've sniffed that wine from across there obviously what were you even on then talking about that match that they show randomly oh yeah I really enjoyed it I don't know if it's because if it's because I've been so out of the loop wrestling wise yeah and that's you know because the whole reason why me personally didn't want to watch it anymore is because it's seen it all it's like or I felt like I'd seen it all like every WrestleMania have Roman reigns brought Lesnar and now Goldberg like involved in it and it's the same match every time they're getting paid fucking millions of dollars to literally put on the same match every single year regardless of who it's with it's like insert stock person here you just have the same thing or they're going against each other but yeah I don't know what was that seat seen a Rawlings Lesnar Royal Rumble 2015 I was well into it yeah it was good yeah I did I did I really enjoyed it so then the Street Profits I've dealt a little bit really into that the whole camera angle change which you know did deal did they not steal it off AEW cares I really don't care because one gets like two million views the other gets five so you know I'll be a big there but they need to stop with that shit though that whole I see when that's there I don't know we said it last week we were saying that this seems to be trying to be WWE but that's because that's a fact I think the whole WWE stealing things off AEW I think you could probably say that's true of course if there was a crowd there they decided to switch the hard-cam well they switched it because there was no crowd there so AEW had that sort of from facing hard-cam but to EWE have done that before they've done it on NXT before they've done it on fucking Royal Rumble from Addison Square Garden the hard-cam is there you know I don't care I'm gonna move on the literally like trying to look for news for this show because you know what really got me to talk about what fucking see you know see if it's any news literally every little bit of news I saw was like somebody from AEW saying about how shit WWE is and that is obviously a strategy that they're going down that route I think it's a mistake I think we should stop talking about WWE and just start because the thing is they I'm a hundred percent certain that when they first started they thought they were going to be getting the same viewers yeah I'm a hundred percent certain the fact that they're not the fact that they're not even getting half the same out of viewers means now they need to change the fact that they are just another TNA as far as how many viewers they're getting the beat of NXT by like a hundred thousand a week and that's not that's not something to brag about it because NXT has had all the stars fucking taken from it to go to the main roster so that they're rebuilding again so yeah Finn Balor has gone back to it well Finn Balor's not gonna get you 200,000 viewers like he's just not no I don't believe any wrestler from this era is getting any viewers whatsoever I think they're a collective it's a collective thing yeah it's not I don't think there's any one wrestler who's getting anything really I think maybe Roman Reigns does bring some kids in because they've been forced for Roman Reigns but like Cena brought him to the scene of the studio yeah I was trying to make it to the scene Jericho and someone that we said on the podcast before Jericho did a quote on his podcast that you said yes probably episode like 50 where's like people don't go and see wrestlers anymore they go and watch WWE whereas back in the day they were like oh my god Stone Cold Steve Austin's in the building next week we gotta get tickets it's Stone Cold it's the rock they don't do that now they go and watch WWE so really it doesn't fucking matter who's on it no it's just it's WWE so that's why people watch it it's saying like all Roman Reigns brings in the kids no no he doesn't no no kids sat there turning on the TV because Roman Reigns on the show they're not watching it anyway so you don't think he brings any sort of like child audience no no no because he's no because he's grown he's in he's being he's grown within WWE so he's not bringing any audience because the audience was there that's why he's being like you know you think the same with Cena that was the same yeah absolutely because he's in great so the rock the same with the rock same with Austin but they were around at a time where more people watched it so the rock can go back on and get an extra million viewers like that now because he's a famous in the film world if Kevin Hart turned up on the show probably get an extra million viewers because Kevin asked on it Rob Gronkowski got about about 50,000 extra and I saw one I saw one news article I was like oh my god the viewing figures go up because we're on galsies on and it was literally 50,000 people from the week before now that when you put that in sorry for bourbon when you put that into context soon half million people is Jack shit it's nobody that's that viewing wise that's tiny considering like at the height of the fucking attitude area that we're getting close to ten you know and like NBA gets from like 50 you know when it's like a finals and I know finals is different and like a regular game it gets like more than that yeah it's just like two two and a half million people a week on average it's fuck all like absolutely nothing so the fact that they're arguing and squibbling and and all they're up and they're down and they're up and they're down when it's like 50,000 people each way it's not enough it's not enough people to be talking about every week viewing figures exactly yeah maybe once if it was a huge site suddenly it went from two to fucking five that's a story because it's like consistently got about two and they got five holy shit the game's great or the if they doubled it or if they gained a million maybe but when we're talking a couple of hundred thousand which puts and flops every week so it depends on so many factors as well as an unsaving at the time what the weather's like what where they are you know it depends on so many things it does not come down to who's on it no I'm totally with you on that it doesn't matter who's on it it doesn't matter who's in which segment either it was matter who's on it if someone was on it and like I say there was that million two million spike then you can go ah that person really has brought barram new eyes on right now you're just getting because you know the viewing figures it's like two hundred thousand here and there those are people coming in and coming out who watch it anyway they're not new to 200,000 people because then it'll go down it'll go back it's smoking mirrors either because they're all they're on the I think that when I see these things it's just purely America yeah so like let's say they get 10 million worldwide if it goes to 12 million worldwide then you're like oh what have we done differently there I'm sure they're that insuit whether that into the analytics and for some reason it gives you a few human figures on the first hour the second hour and the third hour Jesus Christ but it always goes down as the show goes on regardless of what's on it even though the main event at the end is supposed to be the best the big draw match but it never works all the way but yeah Jesus Christ you cried over a couple of thousand people but that to me proves it doesn't matter who's on it so then signing so I think that nine hundred thousand eight hundred thousand that watch every week are there for Kenya Omega and the young books and Cody yeah and that those kind of people I don't think any of them are there for Jericho I don't think any of them are there for Moxley they're not because they would have watched it anyway yeah and how many people so if you think if you see Jericho and John Moxley is like a I've not seen him on it I'm not seen any news so I know he's still there think it's but Jericho was on it every week he was on that that hardy bit yeah yeah so you know Jericho you think he's always a big draw for WWE he sells loads of merch and all that kind of shit so if they're getting nine hundred thousand a week on a good week yeah nine hundred thousand seven I've seen seven hundred six hundred and XC's about five hundred if Jericho suddenly turned up on NXT would that go up to nine hundred thousand absolutely not of course it wouldn't because nobody gives a shit really you know I don't I don't think that's a thing anymore because like if Stone Cold like you know I didn't look at it but I would like to know like the three sixteen row like what what was that I put somebody put in there that row this week was 17% down on the week before right but they were talking about that Royal Rumble getting a massive spike of viewers and everybody dropped off well dropped off while Stone Cold Steve Austin was on TV which is sacrilegious but yeah obviously the old tuning to watch that Royal Rumble match and then fucked up again but that might be symptomatic of the fact that there is no sport on the TV so you change the channel and you can see a big crowd cheering over something yeah then it's like whole shit is the only thing on at the moment where there's a crowd cheering I mean you both thought they'd get a spike the fact that nothing's on and it's obviously that they've not it's exactly what he's completely flat it's exactly same I think it's like a finite amount of wrestling fans and I do think that there's no coincidence that AW are getting about the same as NXT because I think people watching both I don't think there's got like people are like at the same time as NXT I think I'm pretty sure the calling it the Wednesday night was so I next that's the whole reason why they're saying AW is beat so AW is beat NXT 10 weeks in a row but it's by about 100,000 people every time so they're on it exactly the same time I just think that's really silly because like they must I understand why they're doing it I get it I totally get it going head to head you know it's whatever they can have these fucking news stories every week I think it's WWE that's done that by putting NXT on a TV network yeah to go head to head with AW I do think it's bit silly I think you cannibalize in your audience because exactly everybody everybody who who cares about wrestling will watch them both yeah so if one is on at one time and then he was on after it your audience's biggest vocal double so if you want more eyeballs on your breath that's what I think I don't think it would necessarily get to like 1.5 million or 1.8 million each I think it would be would both be if one was on Wednesday and the other was on Thursday I think they both be over a million I do wrestling fans are fans of wrestling you say you go in there not touch the wrestlers you've got no allegiance no loyalty any of the wrestlers because there isn't you know the stone colds and all that anymore so you go and talk wrestling and if you want good quality wrestling you're gonna watch NXT and you're gonna watch AW you're watching both yeah doesn't really matter it gives a fuck if they're like two different brands because we've been and watched IC, ICW progress watched NXT, NXT UK watch all of them at one point all of them and it became too much obviously couldn't we didn't have to choose for our own sanity but like if there's a decent match to watch I'd watch it regardless of what it's on yeah I watched New Japan I've watched ROH you know I watched TNA back in the day when it was going I don't even know if TNA still going like I've got a little idea actually not heard shit about TNA but all the news stories about AW and WWE like so there's nothing TNA so fuck knows I mean I think the last thing we saw was like Tasha Blanchard assigned with him or something like that but I'm not that might have been an AW's I don't know actually she got a lot of bad press didn't she she won some title somewhere don't know where it was but the day but she wouldn't hit or the day before she won it she put a tweet I was saying women needed support women and then all these female wrestlers came out and said you were coming to me wow and someone said that really yeah there was I'm sure there was I might be getting this wrong but I'm sure it's like Chinese or Japanese sorry I can't remember who she's racist someone called so I'm sure she calls me N word somewhere and everywhere this weight is tirade against it from all these female wrestlers from all over the place went who the fuck are you talking to saying that wow and she wanted it she won that title either that night or the day after telling ruined the whole ruined the whole like momentum Jesus I've been built up because I was reading through them I was like what the fuck is going on here and there was some like if these allegations and you would like to believe that they're true because I can't I know nobody's coordinated no no and I think it was because she's not big enough to eat out they're like come on women we need to support each other she'd never put that out no one would have said it wouldn't know so only shit that's crazy you know like obviously a great wrestler and it's because there was quite a lot of disappointed fans that were like I'm really conflicted because I'm really happy for her and I've been following this story I've been wanting her to win she was she was against the dude trying against the man I beat the man yeah yeah and that's what it was she was getting shit or depressed about it okay I remember yes sorry I'm really sorry to be no this inside out I'm coming at it from like a real outsiders this is new to me but yeah like it yeah so she won this belt whatever and yeah all that shit happens so it was just a bit of a shit show total shit show show she was WWE like she was in she in the may young classic of them for some reason they decided not to sign her yeah we can't believe it because she was super young you know she seemed to have a world at feet and you know she kind of looked at the part she was like why the fuck is she not here now crazy we said that that KRE right and now she's here well she really loves fucking young but like but obviously I can't wait until just as a side note on KRE so I'll leave a little release that out because she's gonna do so fucking insane if anybody's not ever seen a KRE I CW highlight video please please go watch it there's one where it was it was it Mikey whip bro not whip wash yeah there's too many of them with some of the name power bombs are right out of the ring over crowd members into so if you've ever been to like a shitty you know club that's like a grab and go for it so you're like a shit bar or club that has like a you know a bit of a dance floor and then at the sort of end of the dance floor there's like a place where the DJ you know the guy who plugs his iPod in now like it's a bit higher up and it looks like a box you know a job like a judge's box in a courtroom yes so he throws her power bomb right throws her over crowd members into this box but like a back hit scene like it's like she was like he was like she gets power bombed over the top rope into a fucking wooden wall and it's one of the worst things I've ever seen and how she got up and continued I've got no idea but she's done also just that those shows just but yeah a Kiley ray YouTube highlight reel and you'll you'll see it doing all sorts of fucking nuts stuff that guys wouldn't even do which is why you know we've always kind of show about her obviously with the ICW show that was a big part of it as well but the fact that she's the UK women's champion is pretty cool she's got it and she does not look the part I think I think that was mainly down to like being really young and being an indie being an indie wrestler you know like it's you've got to have the funds to to me she never she didn't seem to have like a persona or a character that was quite right yet yeah it was kind of like she was just she was just a good wrestler but like it's like there's definitely something that's gonna click and it does take that takes a lot of time and I think that she's I think she really needs to with no disrespect to NXT UK it's great I think she's to be taken away from that taking to Florida in the performance center and we work on like a fucking amazing character rather than just her going in and just being a wrestler like you know it's it is difficult and it's really hard and you see it so many times of you know sort of a lexibilist you came out with a sparkle fairy doss shit and then suddenly she becomes heel and it works it just it just clicks well if you take a look at her you know she's five or tall it's like really cute blonde of course she's gonna be a face that's first thing we're gonna think like oh look how sweet and small she is whereas it's like and you want to think to look at her let's she's gonna make an amazing heel you're just like no fucking my size of her so like I think Kaylee Rae needs to have like a bit of a big coaching yeah well he will do that I mean the fact that she's the women's champion is you know it's whatever it is but you know we're gonna do it take over from doubling next month so I know all this shit will be there ready and waiting yeah definitely it's just a little bit we just got away and be patient and he had well how have we got to that point I was talking about you and figures for some reason yeah we got on to that we got on to you pointing at me yes so the reason why we turned raw off was it Shana Shana I can't I can't speak anymore yeah yeah what he's gone on there I don't know like it was really fucking odd she used to be like from day one I mean she's a little shaky obviously everyone is and she come from you actually but there was like she had that spark of she's gonna be really men on the mic and she was she was great on the mic she's great on the mic she's great on the mic she's great on the mic she's a little bit like this probably in ring promo with Carly Charlie was this the strangest thing I've ever seen I don't know what the fuck was going on don't know what they were trying to achieve with that I don't believe that I know apparently Becky Lynch comes out and he's Rob but I didn't even get up like what was she even going on about I don't know it made it was a bit like because we've been watching Harry Potter's yes we are and it's a bit like what's her face her she called a little handbag and I'll start on Oh bridge bridge yeah it's a bit like an um bridge first stands up and it dresses a super awkward and she don't make it she says a lot of shit that makes no sense and they're like what did that even mean yeah that's what it was like it was like listening to want some pizza ones say words that don't link together and don't make any sense it's like someone gave her like this like scrapbook things you're saying a wrestling promo and they all just fit together just like saying in a random order this is the annoying thing about the main rosters they can't just be better than the other one because that's where the people who were like natural competitors like Shane and never did great things in UFC but she still got in there and out of fight yeah so that whole thing like the Queen of spades was it yeah and that was I enjoyed that you know the height of her doing that was when we were to see it all but whole and she was pretty resoundly cheered even though she was the bad guy and she can't wrestle she's really good can put a great match on yeah you know and the whole thing biting so this is thing like so it's tough because when we saw the highlight reel of her biting Becky Lynch and I've been blooded in a mouth my first reaction was like oh my god what the hell are they going with it but we didn't see that actually as a thing we saw a highlight of it that could have been lame as fuck it could have been it just looked quite effective when it was in together like yeah whips by in a package like oh and it back his neck by the way and he just flashed up like holy shit and it's like blood all around that because that was probably shit maybe but why are they bothering why can't it be Shane versus Becky Lynch for who is the best wrestler you know and like because the whole like promo thing was like surrounded by she was like oh why do you want to be the Raw Women's Champion or whatever it is whichever belt Becky's got why do you want it well I want it because I like to destroy things like that doesn't make any sense whatsoever I want it because I'm a wrestler and she's got the bell which means she's the best in the fucking division so I'm gonna snap her arm off or I'm gonna choke her unconscious that's all I need to hear from Shayna Baszler I don't need to hear her saying a weird joke about biting somebody and then it was like the weirdest fourth brawl wall break ever it was just like you know you even what did you say when she was doing that one you're scared I'm gonna bite you or whatever it was you know it sounded like she was flirting with her yeah she did so much it's coming on to her it was like it was like it was like it was awkward date from hell really and everybody knew it was like it's like a Michael Bay movie as well let's throw that analogy in there so she says well you're scared I'm gonna buy it and then she proceeds to it's pretty much explain herself oh I couldn't help it I couldn't help but saying that you know like the last the last cherry on that fucking shit cake would have been I'm not saying that because you know I bite people now that's nothing I bite people Charlie whatever fucking name is nothing that's my canvas I've got the teeth I've got the neck got the blood that's my canvas it was just about sorry I by the way I coughed into the microphone I didn't mean to I had it I had it behind my hand but I don't realize that even if it's bam and it's loudest for so did I a bit gaz sorry sorry sorry but yeah it was just what you know like what is it what is it what is it I'm thinking I did she a vampire is that thing she's bit Becky's neck she was fucking sat in the mat's what fucking dry ice blowing around her feet and that promo because it's like the most out on chairs in the dark in the dark why she wouldn't talk for ages but she's glaring at a lot like she's really like you agree to this interview and she's like well no we know she's been told not to say anything this is the this is the annoying thing is the fact that they pretend it's real at times that suit them but not all the time so it's like well if you're not gonna do it all the fucking time don't bother just say it's fake from the outset or just have them like as if it's an actual competition you can have these other worldly characters when you're like Bray Wyatt and all this kind of stuff but it's still you know it's still linked by the fact that they want to be the best fucking wrestler I don't know why that's not in North it is not it is not it's always you know I the ones that right I accept these two things and one barely I accept them one one seems to be a great wrestler two there used to be a friendship and now they're enemies that one barely barely because he's fucking sexy because as I said to you the other day whoa be careful they'll have a best friend in WWE because they're gonna do all that to you know even then that's that only works is if they've been friends for a long time the way they tend to do it is you know and this has probably never ever happened but it might have happened you know like Dan and Brooke and fucking Selena Vega going to a tag team match with somebody one week then the next week she's turning on him it's like oh my god they were best friends like Tiga Knox and fucking dick out a guy it's like yeah they might have genuinely been friends for ten years but this is the first time we've seen them together there's just too much of it that's too far too much of it sometimes it works if they've got all the money DIY yeah DIY zane and Owens because they have got they've actually got the photographs Peyton rice the iconic that would be great it's gone over they've apparently not been on TV since I've been on September like here or some magic really yeah like I just saw something and it might change now because I haven't seen it but maybe about a month or so ago someone was like they've not been on TV since September October last year and I was like why listen this is a tweet and I'm relying on that person to eat that so it might not be the case but they're not saying but they could have an amazing rivalry and it's gonna happen well you can't know because it's not been on TV September that would be that would be what would bring him back the momentum should have captured him from WrestleMania when they lost the tag team title that's when they should have done it yeah yeah what's the third on me can think of oh friends yeah well the Owens and yes yeah that's exactly that oh that broke my heart but you knew it was just great when you had my name on it I just bought bang and table sorry oh that was so sad I was so sad and he's just his face was like oh doing like the anyway I really go to that when you do it for ages it works and you know everyone's mainly as well I don't give a shit about no no not right now but like back in the annexing but they make too many times I don't I'm talking about the golden the golden to much as they are with even they started all the other I think it's just always a rival reaction I don't think it were me it's really no we'll see many times well they're boring equally like 28 time fucking smart that women's champion yeah yeah whatever whatever guys you don't you can bother anymore you're not going to put it into a headlock takeover so they've got they've got their horrid karana from back with torica rounder from the top row but I say the overtime do you know what though the one thing that will always put like I love their matches I mean what I have to say if that if that story that backstage report from last year's WrestleMania was true where when they got off stage at and losing the tag team titles they both just lay on the floor in protest well I didn't hear this yeah they're apparently and they were bitching and they were they're going to lay on the floor in protest well what Vince all the step over those stupid bitches can you imagine like them doing that somewhere and word getting back to Vince I mean I'm embarrassed I'd be so embarrassed I'd be so embarrassed well she didn't didn't such a like disappear from one yes because she lost a tag team title yeah it's not fucking real I'm actually hard going into WrestleMania yeah anyway Bailey's other WrestleMania moment where she won at ours yeah so like what's the fucking shit at all well yeah because they didn't do the right finish it I tell you what no let's let's stop there because we're getting into the reason why we quit originally I know we're enjoying that but yeah so Shayna doing that probably maybe turn off because I felt like I was getting like hives oh yeah if you get goosebumps of embarrassment on your arm which happens often in wrestling when I'm on seeing you speak I get those goosebumps of embarrassment like you know just make you just a shiver down you spine you just like doing this off now I'm you it or fast forward or something yeah when you get that you know you're in trouble yeah when Randy Orton speaks I get that as well yeah yeah yeah yeah it's all it's all formulaic anyway but yes one other thing we watched is because I just put the latter on that's on the WWE Network it was a month from Winnipeg Charlotte's the guy there was probably many people who had this sign in the crowd but did have a little kickle somebody the sign that said I'm from Winnipeg you idiot which I did enjoy but like Kevin Owens was like the star of that show and I mean it's the Owens and Bella I mean two me two favorites I think Owens is consistently great like he's just great he's got a lot shit is that more shit than I thought he might eat yeah I think he's still eating shit but the fact that he's got the Rawlings March at WrestleMania is a good sign I wonder because we've been out of it for so long I wonder what the general kind of temperature for Owens is now well the fact that he turned back up at Aikova and was part of the War Games March is amazing because the poppy got was massive and if you see what Bella's doing and being like mmm why not I mean I would if I'd you know what if I was some his aim I wouldn't even think twice about begging I should be there already yeah just keep turning up there just like what yeah because can you imagine like if it's a once like you know if you want three more coaches Bella Zayn and Owens you know they're there you knew can't they're your new beginner coaches isn't it funny but of those three who were like the stars are the next two really I mean I think I wins way too quickly yeah but any way not going against the like straight away yeah let's look at Zayn and Bella yeah and let's throw Owens in there them too really came out of that move as grinning idiots because Sami Zayn was not the guy he is on the main roster in NXT like he's a bit of a fucking buffoon and he might just be in a buffooning line might be more his thing but for some reason in NXT I didn't feel like he wasn't being himself but he wasn't this like really weird annoying human like we need to have more of a story whereas in NXT they can just be good at wrestling we get very true it's very true and if they are good at wrestling then they can be the champion and they can be the main event whereas you know some the Sami Zayn that returned to NXT London that got one of the biggest cheers I've ever heard in my life is not the guy who's currently in the Connell champion no it's weird it honestly it's like watching a different person I can't associate the person I see now with that absolute mega star that was running and that was like the face of NXT like he was so different it's cool then and I don't think anyone can really call Sami Zayn cool now the only cool thing about him is his obvious refusal to go to the fucking yeah yeah but what he cares because he's out he's out of the fucking show anyway so that's what they all say it's not like AJ that will Daniel Bryan soon I didn't say where I'm going did he I don't know if he's ever been but I saw something once of him and I think AJ refused to go but AJ went on this one directly because the other woman's match I think like Sami didn't want to go but he wasn't much welcome because of his roots and everything yeah but I still don't think we would give a shit now but maybe that's what I don't know that was a chair but I didn't do a trauma I'm just putting my chair in yeah it's really weird because like Balor has done I think arguably the best out of the three of those but now he's back in NXT and he's doing exactly what he wants to do like the Prince thing is his so that's that's a weird thing now for some reason he's being allowed to do it obviously you can't you know not everybody can do that nobody not everyone can go back to NXT and be like who they were when they left they can't do it because you've got a monster there now but if Adam Cole goes up what is he gonna be in six months time you'll still be doing these Adam Cole baby thing but when the when the eventually breakup on dispute here for reasons that nobody would seem to know he's Adam Cole just gonna be NXT gonna be in a common L champion being really fucking annoying and doing like mad comedy skits with Shinsuke who's another one Oh Shinsuke I mean can't even touch on that the fact that Shinsuke doesn't get a breath of our podcast is like if someone said that to you when that music first got announced when he was great you're great what was the greatest thing I would have said to you that and after you had a couple of amazing matches that at one point you're not even gonna be there yeah you're not even and he's gonna be there with Sammy oh amazing what you are gonna give a fuck about you if I'm gonna go as far as I think it's a bit shit you'd be like what how is that possible well at that point obviously we hadn't seen all those amazing people go up and just get fucking yeah obliterated into nothing into absolutely nothing and it's just been I think like the generation of people who were with NXT from the start and particularly NXT Golden Era we did first like that you know it was incredible leave it from the first takeovers yeah that was like Neville against Tyson Kit that was a fantastic match and so from those first takeovers onwards you know it's been nothing but net for NXT regardless of who's in it and that's all down to yeah it's down to the wrestlers and the talent and all down to recruitment and all that kind of thing but it's all down to I think wrestler versus wrestler because as soon as it's a weird gimmick it goes up to make roster straight away like Sanity yeah Sanity and NXT was interesting it was like their version of Wyatt Family but a little bit more edgy you know and Eric young guy and they went up where the fuck's Eric young what one of them won a son of these now in Imperium that Alexander Wolf guy he's an Imperium in the KNXT with Walter where are the actual I thought was Nikki Cross it was in sunny now she's with an ex-oblast doing the nails you know the list the list is endless so it is my question to you completely off the court for not even remotely talked about I'm totally ready for a question take over Tampa Bay is now no longer happened but you get a three hour pay-per-view you get a three hour pay-per-view and you can do whatever the fuck you want on it and it can be anybody that's been in NXT before what'd you do because might just before that the prelude to it was I was gonna say for these guys like Shinsuke and like Finn and like Samoa Joe and even though I think Samoa Joe would be fully fine like Owens I think of Shillow Joe will always be fine you'll be in you'll be on the show somewhere yeah I think he's I think he's I think he's set to return this one like so the ones that are really floundering like you Shinsuke is I would say even though he's in the co-op champion at Sammy big time so I the first thing I was gonna say is add an hour to NXT and get those fuckers back they can just do what what Finn Balor's doing and just have a rivalry with either each other or an open-coming person because they I'm telling you they would rather do that than jump around you know like the last thing I saw a Sammy was that Royal Rumble where he comes out cheering Nakamura on and he's on he's on screen for about 10 seconds he's not even in the Royal Rumble match which is completely batshit it's grim and the thing is you say that about like imagine if you could feel like saying like an NXT card and you could have whoever you wanted on I think I'd struggle because the fuck to them up so badly that to have them have a match with someone without any sort of context and rivalry I think it's now got to the point where I would need them to do something I think not to prove themselves but I think that they've lost that much momentum and they don't have any real rivalries to mine it's like they're just floating you need to sort of like get them out of this e-ford that they're floating in and whack them on a trajectory that gave them not even a rivalries that actually earned them a right to have a rivalries like because right now they're just fucking like Sammy's age is goofing about yeah to me as I say I've not seen the whole lead up to him winning that Bell I don't know I know we won it by accident anyway but anyway yeah because the whole thing with the whole the WrestleMania thing is if Drew Gulak we use a great wrestler don't we we're on he had a good match with with with with um Daniel Bryan which the crowd didn't give a fuck about because it's a submission style match no one cares you know what in NXT the third place would be popping because it's not just the way it goes but the whole thing of that is if Drew Gulak can beat Shinsuke Nakamura then Sammy's aim will face Daniel Bryan or WrestleMania oh that shouldn't be happening you know it shouldn't be happening that it's fucking stupid I'm not saying that Drew Gulak should never beat Shinsuke Nakamura but that shouldn't be the context in which he's beating him in if you lose you may ask to defend his title against somebody else completely it's just thrown together just for the sake of throwing it together so if it was me and I had the control in stake I would say right I would go to events saying this but meaning something else I'd say do you want to genuinely compete with AWR Wednesday night yes or no I think he'd say no really but let's pretend he'd say yes don't think he gives two shits about AWR well the fact that those two are on at the same time yeah well NXT was always on Wednesday night yeah and then they got offered the deal at the same time that AWR was kind of giving its own someone's made a decision there whether it's WWE or AWR I think he's still WWE because from gay AW said they were on Wednesday nights right and NXT suddenly said now we've got a TV deal because they could have been on any night but it wasn't yeah but they were always on a Wednesday on the network and I think they're still on the network which bastardizes the viewing figures again because people can watch the network so it's a complete you know who cares who's winning that anyway so I'd go to him saying do you want to beat him? I'd be like somebody says yes and then I fucking were absolutely raid WWE and I'd have a three hour show every week yeah that would be exact an NXT show and doing exactly the same thing that they do but I just had an AWR to it and I'd add Zayn and Nakamura Owens I think that's the only three I'd take I get Zayn Nakamura and Owens in there because they've got like a United States esque title they've got the North American champion and I just put them in yeah because they can they can work in an hour an extra hour and it'd be I think that would be one of the strongest wrestling shows on TV oh great so you've got Balor in there you've got Shinsuke you've got Owens and you've got Zayn I do think that because Balor's there that more that's a blueprint of what's gonna happen I think it's gonna become part of developmental and plus now because it's because of the TV deal it's clever in a way yeah because it moves that brand from being just a developmental brand where you know your favorite wrestling is going to who could come back or who might stay because Charlotte's going for the title isn't she yeah so is Charlotte gonna just be on NXT for a bit if she wins that bill which I think she should do I mean it shouldn't matter it shouldn't be I'm saying that in the sense of people should be able to come and go from from that brand here's a question then before you say that then yeah so you've got life is there so Gagano said he's gonna say that for life you know it's all in his merch so he's obviously earning enough money yeah you tell me I'm cold not earning enough money I'm guaranteed that guy's earning a big time I hope he don't go up well this is the thing that you kind of saying like back back when we first started doing it you were like oh my god can you imagine end zone big castle the main roster can you imagine Finn Balor on the main roster always doing like Jack the Ripper he's doing Texas oh can you imagine that the main roster it never happens so we need to forget that because undisputed era on the main roster would be amazing but the problem with that is is we see him every week on NXT anyway so what's the difference between them staying on NXT and going to the main roster there isn't any because when you go and I always say it and I've been on shop today in spent money like a dickhead like you know I got a hoodie I got a great player I got a prince t-shirt obviously and the OC one because it's a tenor and it'll look stop but I was tempted by a lot of things well before though raining it was like a nerd's one the OC one no it's just a normal normal one yeah it's just like the samurai one that they've got the where all the time that's what but yeah when you go on WWE shop or your own shop or fucking from like he was in the top five undisputed era it's Roman Reigns Seth Rollins uh for Knowso because I'm a Bray Wyatt somebody else and then undisputed era is the fifth face on those top five fucking superstars so you telling me that Adam Cole who is the face of it isn't making pure bank because he is he's making shits on some of it so why would you even think about doing it especially if you're a bit younger like if you're like in your sort of mid 20s I don't know how all day these guys are well let's say you've seen Belvatine dream you know if he's you know he's you know he's a very young guy is he dead young I think so yeah why would you even entertain going to the main roster because your career could be over in a year if he doesn't work which we've seen those styles of characters never work on the main roster why would you even entertain the idea well in that FCW documentary you know like praising Krueger yeah because he could just change character like that and then suddenly he's Adam Rose takes off in NXT goes to the main roster is he's done it's over he's not even a wrestler anymore it's so it's done it's fucking done and that guy like we saw him as Krueger and that was good that was a really good gimmick the Adam Rose thing I think that that did take was a little bit to warranty when they were doing the promos on NXT but then when you see the the party thing kind of works in the NXT thing because they didn't have anything like that because it was also fucking serious so so I'd what's he called? Adam Rose yeah I was gonna say Axel Rose and it was really fucking me I was like that's probably a life-stalling yeah yeah so Adam Rose like it really worked in NXT and then the main roster it just like died dead and it killed that guys life everything just went wrong didn't it like everything just went fucking wrong I'm not saying it's because of that because obviously obviously there's some issues going on at the time it's got fire didn't it that's probably why that was going on because he wasn't getting used like we were there in Boston at that morning at the bank and it was the worst thing I've ever seen yes it was nobody was bothered nobody was bothered absolutely no one but if he did die if that money in the bank was in the UK everybody would have been doing it because of the whole fan bango thing I know it's a similar sort of response you know so I'm glad though that there are now because it's I think it's a huge step forward that there are now people on NXT who say they're there forever because at one point I was thinking this that isn't possible because we said so many times it'd be it's a shame that people couldn't just stay just for a bit longer and I feel like there's a bit more autonomy now especially for people who are you know maybe not for developmental but for people who are like Adam Cole yeah to say now I'm staying because I'm a commodity that you have bought yes so I can dictate what I want to do because I can fuck off to AW you guys yes so I feel like there is but it's very hard for the developmental talent to be able to turn around and say that they can like they're on a conveyor platform so the developmental talent would be the ones that will go up so there's like that the guy who's tagged with ALMASS on that row yeah yeah he had a couple of matches in NXT that saw and I was like yeah this guy's all right and then suddenly he's on the main roster now so they will be the people that will go up and you'll see I think in the next couple of years you'll see a lot of debuts on Raw from people who have had like one or two matches on NXT yeah and have just honed it just to go straight up because I don't think for a second Bolzigler is making right at this precise moment not for it not for a minute and the contracts might say different numbers but their ending take home money will not be even remotely in the same ballpark of course because that person's come on board already knowing their value yeah whereas Dolph Ziggler has been with WWE throughout his whole like major professional career so he will have had incremental pay rises whereas Adam Cole can come in and go if you want me give me an offer or this is what you pay and same with Samoa Joe Samoa Joe will have done exactly the same and why he was the first person who kept his name because he turned around and said and obviously we discussed this before but he they wanted to call him something else and he was like no you can either call me something else and start from start go from a standing start and paraphrase it go from a standing start or you can make money from day one with Samoa Joe yeah because that's my name and that's what makes money but what comes with that is that you pay me more because it's my name of course and the thing is they will pay it more and I do think you will get more and more I don't know how many more actually there is but like if there are any more kind of independent big stars who wants comes to WWE I do think that NXT will be the one that they choose especially now it's got a TV deal because it's like well it's a lot it's a lot more of a commodity now than it was even two or three years ago because people can see a career path both ways so really if you're thinking about it from maybe say like a mighty scour boy of you who has turned AEW down apparently really I didn't click into the article but he was just like the last three ages I have no idea I've no idea but that guy for me personally like so when I say you know who's the last of the ones you would pick they've got ricochet now you know they completely jack shit with him and he's jobbing to fucking step said and lost lost in a tag match and a roaring for an nobody but what still was top you know I still did got all his tricks in but you know it's really hard because yeah so ricochet's boy view so he's not American champion then he's up yeah straight straight like it's not because he's too talented to really be there but he would be now like you would you would keep him in NXT now for a bit because why wouldn't you well this is again down to down to day one contract negotiations of what how was he comes down to but I'm not saying this from a male or female perspective who's the man in the situation are you the man or is ww the man and if you come after with I'm the man yeah which is what Samoa Joe did obviously he's gone off and he don't mind following the morning and do whatever he likes but he kept his name and that's a precedent and for any of the wrestlers who came in to keep their name and keep their following and ricochet potentially weren't the man no well because of his biggest name as far as that as a name was Prince Boomer yeah because he was Prince Boomer whereas he was just doing like independent shows and new Japan stuff as ricochet so you could argue if you were a businessman you would argue that the Prince Boomer carried to ride more going for it because he was on CV even though they didn't get that many viewers it got global yeah yeah kind of um expo here yeah interesting why I've happened to um EC3 off from no idea as he's just falling off a cliff did he go to my roster yeah did yeah oh well he's I didn't realize he got up oh he's dead my bobby raid so looking out who like I said to you the other day I just forgotten he was even in ecstasy do you remember when we're on that conversation like I'm in the next it's like I knew reminded me of like the shows we'd seen him and he was the man and I was like oh shit of course yeah it's like it's so it gets forgotten when well his moment in ecstasy was so short as well it wasn't like the Sami Zayn thing where he became a joke it became like you know it's day fucking 427 he's still not been called up and he's the man you know like it became a bit of a joke and then when he got called it was like thank god but it was so pointless because it happened no um and they didn't even do the Kevin Owens and Sami's aiming properly on the main roster it's a joke yeah that one thing yeah that one bit of wrestling you were the kind of face off of the crowd about ballistic it was all there for you all the photographs the whole thing could have just been literally lifted from NXT and just taken over it because Kevin Owens didn't have enough time in NXT to make it even become like a massive thing like a jumper huge but and that and you know obviously Owens debut when he attacked him was so like he obviously had a match and then Zayn then Owens attacked him at the end was like the crazy of shit yeah that was great it was pandemonium it was fucking insane it was so good but then Owens got plopped really fast and we were super glad you say really fast but I bet it was about a year well maybe yeah maybe it was because he was on a few you don't quite have you takeovers he's got KO mania for t-shirt did you see no that's he yeah no i'm not seeing it yeah i love that that's i think well well they don't give a fuck really do they no i mean i think the question i was gonna ask you before and it is a logistical nightmare of a question okay and it's a bummer so okay i'll do it's not a but we talk about it's not about Vince dying so much okay Vince McMahon steps aside we've done this before is that society's not dead he was sorry he's never done okay no way he doesn't work Vince McMahon dies okay it's sudden it's fast we don't expect it no one's expecting it triple h now you've got the keys to the castle what the fuck do you do with that shit show and i'm not saying like when i say shit show what i mean is triple h between a rock and a hard place it's like i need to carry on fueling this fire that is the main roster but also i've got nxt it's like do you turn the main roster into the quality product that is nxt and then have nxt kind of not maybe not software but it becomes a proper developmental where it is like when we used to watch it there was actually nobody on nxt when we first when you showed me it because you were like you need to watch nxt it's really good um by the way i can remember the first um ror i watched when you and i started going out and i watched ror since i was about like four seen on something it was the one where john cena was seen in a hotel with some girl all right that was the first one to who is john cena i can use this prick oh i don't even know i don't i don't even know who but anyway but i would have been a jaylee at that time i think it was actually i think it was a jaylee it was like it was like ccm snogging on some shit it's a crap but um you know like you know like i was like like i say the whole like vid's but man dying i do not want vid's but man today he retires and he goes he doesn't die but what he's but for it to be like it's sudden he just disappears he sends him a picture from an island somewhere that he's gone he's gone he's got steps there god knows what he's you know breathing some more offspring but anyway yeah so tripping tripple age wouldn't get it now because he's not that role but anyway we give it to triple age who thought we'd get it those karuna and you know they would be like i think like maybe shane would step up to be the gut i don't know who cares but anyway we're giving it to triple age we're giving it to triple age we should have it i think if you know if i was him i would make ror and smack down like an xt i would stop with all this crap you know fucking girlfriend boyfriend storylines you know islana shaggin lashley oh my god is that so i don't even know well she's i think she's his manager or whatever other fucking clover but you know i don't we get rid of all of that we get rid of all this like bitchy women fighting crap and it just go it's basically a carbon copy of nxt's story line model so that the people who write the story lines for nxt and now main roster writers and all them get exact yeah i think you have a completely different roster of smack down you're completely different roster for ror and you're completely different roster for nxt but all three of them are treated the same so you have a raw champion a smack down champion and an xt champion and they're all then you've got three brands that are on three nights a week that have interchangeable parts and that all three should get two million viewers each because because it's that so you know for example rangers you smack down champion senior or Rawlings can be their raw champion and adam col is the nxt champion but that can change to roman rangers being the nxt champion because nxt is now in arenas because they've got a strong enough base but i would never i would never it's the problem is is you can have people like cena and brock lezna and goldberg and all that kind of shit having a decent match but it's the way it's the way they do it so now with goldberg and lezna being like the champions they just coming out on nowhere and win the belt straight away so the whole themed angle of that entire run is killed in a second because he gets spade three times and pinned jack and then jack and then get supper just disappears we don't get up and beat the fuck out of him which is what i thought was going to happen he just gets up as a little tantrum then disappears so you don't need if you're if you're thinking that brock lezna and goldberg these these wrestlers bring anything to your product as far as viewers which i do not believe they do because they're on it too regular for them to be part-time yeah it's true you know if five years go by then suddenly brock lezna comes back then then we're talking but because they come back every year and they're on every Wrestlemania people are expecting it they don't need to have a title match the problem with having a title match is that their scene is being the best in that company they're you know kayfabe and all that they're the best wrestlers ww have got brock lezna and goldberg because they keep coming back and they keep winning the title straight away so they're the best you've got which means for the all over 11 months of the year whoever's got the bell is shit because you know even kids will know you know a kid would turn around and say the fiend's only the champion until lezna comes back yeah because that's what happens so you've got no stars you cannot make a superstar because you've got these people who are supposedly superstars and goldberg was anytime can i do you can i need you got enough to say well i'm waiting i can i give you a but yeah so you can you know you can hear me while you're in there no no i may shout to you but you know you don't have time to to make these guys stars which is why if because you know you're telling me like brock lezna gives it really gives you shit about being the champion he won't he gives a shit about getting paid four million dollars to do one appearance at Wrestlemania or whatever it is wherever he's fucking contracted that's all he cares about so you know getting in there you're like they used to do like there was the triple h match and now apparently it's the john cenomatch which is a bit of a legacy one the undertaker one you can still have these people on the card well they can't be the focal point of the entire fucking show and that's what it is you've got these people who are the focal points so yeah that goes instantly if they want to come back and do their own thing then perfect i'd love to have them on the show because they obviously bring something different to it but they don't need to be in a title match because the thing is that you know that the people who are the champions need to be promoted as the champions they need to be promoted as the best wrestler you have at that one time and the problem with having brought lezna and goldberg coming back in and just winning straight away means that they're shit and then at Wrestlemania they're getting a shit match or they're getting you know and a couple of little titles like that your brian is even though we have that amazing moment wrestling 30 that i know we keep laughing on about but that's the issue so for me so you split them into three yes i'm back and you do a massive trade thing a big trade event but it's obviously very very can i ever come yeah you know very very well thought out of where everybody's gonna be for the next six months and you're like right okay so he's gonna be the champion he's gonna take it off him and this is what we're gonna go for and you're fucking stick to it you don't rewrite it every fucking week you stick to it and you do storylines that last longer than two weeks there's a whole excited you know that that raw that i started watching that with a peg one you know brought lezna and haman come out and caught a promo on ricochet knowing full well that the match is gonna be 30 seconds long and it's like what a waste of time it's it is such a waste of time it's gonna well brought lezna go against ricochet and you want to make because ricochet's like was getting all the clicks he was getting you're from doing the fucking mad moves yep why just kill that momentum off to the point where he's in a tag match with you know with Cedric Alexander the tag team partner is now apparently he's joking well that he was like a random thing i know i know we're we're in unprecedented times um so that's always gonna be mad you know it's a mad moment so you're gonna see mad match up so you're gonna see mad match up but ricochet has had a title match against brought lezna he shouldn't be coming out of that match worse off no i agree he should be coming out of it but holy shit this is the next guy he was that close to beating brought lezna he did all those mad flips but lezna you know can you imagine right the the f5 finisher if they let him do it properly he could have you know sprung board off the fucking top rope they're always flipped land on lezna straight straight as the f5 and ricochet would have done any sleep of course it would have spun around brought lezna's body without even knowing he was doing it into an f5 it's like right all you need to do Brock is just fall backwards i'll do everything else spin around in 10 times before you even know what's going on and then perfectly lands in the f5 that's because brought lezna will not go over anything with anybody but you had a great you had a great you had a great you had a great matches in the past i don't i don't believe for a second that brought lezna won't talk about an actress somebody and i don't believe that he needs to be the champion and i don't i think i don't think i think that we don't we know he doesn't need to be champion gobber doesn't need to be champion but i think gobber says he wants to be the champion but he comes back i think that's the difference but i but i truly think that brought lezna turns up and he gets paid and he fucks off i don't think he gives a flying fuck what he's doing in the ring he could he could go in roll rumbull he was dancing for fucks sake he don't care he's getting paid he's going to get paid he don't care he's not like in love with the business he doesn't want to do house shows again you know he's not he's going because the only reason why he's doing it is because they pay my shit load money so if you say to him brog you're coming back and you're going into a program with for three months with kevin ohins where you beat the shit out of him for three months and then at the end of the three months he gets one over and you he'll go okay yeah because he's got a port over i'm asking say it you don't give a shit no care less he doesn't give a shit i think it's i think it's Vince has got some hankering like he's got i to be honest i think Vince has i think right okay here's my theory on Vince and it's not a dramatic theory and it's not anything that no one's thought of or heard before i think he has real trouble um allowing his son-in-law to have one in some sort of way so the nxt talent yeah okay we've got like a lynching stuff but i think that he likes to believe that what he's done is always greater than what has been achieved in recent years and that the show needs what he's built to come save the day that's what it's it's a good argument because that's what it seems like because nothing else there's no other explanation for it because whenever someone from like the old school comes back i don't think they get that like saying they'll get that biggest fiking in people if you do get any at all you know who's really asked about Goldberg Goldberg had his last match he was in dr. mr.
whole fame and there's a huge deal about that was it and there here he is he's back he's back as though ww are on their fucking ass and they desperately need anyone they can get can't get the rock can't get this person oh my god so we've got to get Goldberg and it's it's not the case it's not the case you don't need him he's unnecessary brock lezner you know like fair enough he's not that old yet he's not retired goldberg retired he's fucking retired and he said he was now just gonna spend time like fucking going around skills or some shit whatever the fucking jack and shit he said but like he he was tired and he wasn't needed if anyone was ever needed to come back to really boost the figures it's the rock and if you get him once in a blue moon brilliant but but goldberg was never needed but i feel like Vince likes to think that the things he's built are needed because he looks around and his son-in-law's whole class are running the show and i think it may be a control thing just from my perspective i think it's a control thing like i need to bring in some of the shit that i built to save the day and or not to save the day or just to have in there to say it's saved a day yeah yeah because i i believe that the same amount of people will watch rest of me and you know obviously regardless of whether it's in front of fans or not but if it was said that time the bathing was going ahead if you remove brock lezner and goldberg from that card the exact same people would have bought tickets and the exact same people that are watching the show and sign up to the network will watch the show absolutely like i don't believe over the merchandise they make you anything so to me if you're paying and this is i'm just pulling numbers up there but let's say you're paying brought less than four million for that month including WrestleMania so from role rumble yeah so WrestleMania you're paying four million dollars he'd have to make you four million dollars profit on merchandise for that to be worth it and there's there's no way there's no no no no no way it's just not it's not happening like whatever they're playing goldberg you know yeah these guys are built as being like really big past talent and that's great but the problem with keep looking backwards that's what i think that's what roman rains are struggled with because he's always come across a brock lezner and he's never beat brock lezner that's some high knowledge you know and now he's gone against goldberg which is so so coming out of WrestleMania roman rains will beat goldberg and mac and tai will beat lezner and they'll develop for a bit and they'll be the guys and then as soon as we get to WrestleMania season again they'll lose it to one of these old dudes and then whoever else they want to give it to the year after will then beat brock lezner and beat goldberg so when it becomes samey because like the first thing i said to you when that 2015 even though i enjoyed it for g's crisis 2015 and it's seen her in brock lezner in the main event and it's sephrolins' first chance brock lezner has been part time for ever it seems like that feels like it's like when i'm contractors that you just need to give a full time role to because they're breaking ir 35 but you could go brock lezner could go against anybody WrestleMania but obviously when he went against it was against the enam bros at WrestleMania once and that fell out his ass because it wasn't for anything i can't remember it's like so what arguably and you can argue this this means more than titles anyway in the grand scheme of ww8 well the best thing the best moment i would say lezner's ever been involved with is breaking the streak and there is a massive argument to be hard whether or not that he's a big deal than when it about and i think it's a big deal watch big deal um so that's that in itself is i think what you should i mean you're never going to replicate that but that's what brock lezner's therefore he's there for having a mad march that's lower down the card yeah or maybe the second or third to last one on well brock lezner really if we're being honest should probably now be the undertake match yeah like if undertaker would have left when brock lezner finished him brock lezner should have taken his spot at WrestleMania he's the one to be and he becomes the undertaker it's the brock lezner match can you beat him and then you've got the brock lezner streak it's not far anything it's been nothing it's been nothing at all it's just and you're being occupied currently yeah can you be the baddest fucking dude on the planet yeah it's got no belt what can you beat him yeah so that would to me is cooler oh absolutely and if undertaker would have like left at that point which i do believe he probably should have i'm not saying he's not any good anymore but i think when when i take a lost his streak that should have been the end yes and if they weren't planning on that being the end he should still have his streak yes so it just seems not it's for me now the undertaker match has lost its shine well the AJ Styles promo was hilarious because they're greed with every part of it yeah apart from the Michelle McIl bit well yeah he's got a sound i feel like she's coming out because he talks about that oh yeah she is coming out yeah because he's because i don't think they would even mention her if she weren't coming out in some manner but how do they she'll take out them so i bet she takes out them so oh that'll be hilarious that'll be hilarious but how are they going to do that because they can't have him beat so this is the issue because the undertake has always been the undertaker and that was kind of thing that i wanted to go back to the dead man yeah you know and then they're showing him in a swimming pool with a tiger you know blatantly not you know he's not super natural in that aspect so just drop it American badass if for fucks sake we all you know if they were going after he lost his streak if he was coming back he should have been American badass again they should have just the dead man's done is defeated he's finally defeated and now he comes back to someone else or something else yeah and that would have then legitimized a little bit his legacy but the fact that then there was still the undertaker match after he beat like he the street continued and he started from nothing again he was like well no one cares now i think we're showing a graphic with like 32 and more than all this shit yeah i don't think he cares now like i'm sorry but no one gets like he played that i feel like something behind the scenes when a rider like when he was supposed to retire he didn't want to you were like we'll fuck him back then but you lost or whatever because like you said but let's not care but let's not want to lost yeah he was gonna take out he's not a man who gives a shit about anything especially going against someone who's got the street he won't give a fuck i mean there was that whole thing with it what was it with the what was it with the what was it what was it what he was where he liked through the belt events and then it's going back to dick like what the fuck was all that about when was that when he beat Roman Reigns and then he went back and just sort of threw the bell out so he obviously cares about what he's doing and so it's something that i've done wrong there maybe just care more than we think maybe he just dictates more maybe he is a bit more egotistical than we believe he is even though he comes across like he doesn't give a fuck that's like maybe that's just a very good character he plays but i do because he has lost before he's lost loads of sun yeah seen as being a triple h's being you know there's more people over i believe some manner but like i think that the biggest mistake he made was the street-ending because i think that was the last touchpoint of WrestleMania of old without bringing back people because it was only safe he was there every year and he still has been since he lost so he never lost him so it's like he was the last touchpoint of there was no harm in that street carrying on at all there was no harm in it he wasn't going anywhere clearly but the only thing i can think of is he intended to and then change his mind and he couldn't resist so they went oh fuck it fuck it will just die it doesn't matter we'll just we'll just we'll still have the second but they should they should have changed him they shouldn't they should have it to me i think what a really good story would be is and again his body might not be able to hack it so it depends he might have to tell Brock to chill out a bit but i've been loosed to AJ Styles so he's been so since Brock he's been beating my Roman reigns and he's been beating my AJ Styles at WrestleMania and they can cheat to win Michelle McCool might get you know bumped into and he turns around and goes oh my god then turns back in AJ's fucking well he's not gonna be styles clashing him anytime soon but does does the calf crusher and he taps out undertake a taps out oh my god this big thing then we don't hear shit nothing he doesn't post any pictures he deletes instagram just getting rid of it who fucking can't actually know keep it but stop being on the day and then next year Paul Ayman's got a promo and the america badass music comes out because one more time Brock versus Undertaker one more time and Undertaker beats him and then that's the end of it that's literally it and he don't wear out shit it is don't wear out crap it is oh awful the matches he tombstones him he pins him it's done that's that's the way he's got to me he's ride out yeah literally on the motorbike yeah with the hand in the air and then that's it it's creator over he's not even a taker anymore so yeah that's what I would do but you know fucking knows who fucking knows we've got a topic big time then so no we we started this podcast like we don't really have anything to talk about and I'd like it a one talking point we just got one but it's like I don't even we don't need him because we have so much to say because this is sort of shit we spitball back we have a go for a walk yeah about walks we went on and we ended up just having these fucking crazy conversations where if anyone watches it looks like we're probably having an argument we're just talking really passionate about what we do if we were in charge hands are going fucking shouting I fucking mean yeah it's there's so many things they have dawn I think I think that's the problem with me is that with the main roster particularly with WrestleMania because it obviously culminates in that it's I've done so many they've done more things to piss me off since WrestleMania 30 then they have impressed me yeah and so from 31 to now I've been more I've been probably about 70% disappointed yeah with every single show he's been about 70% met 30% holy shit that's up yeah and it shouldn't be like that we're talking a five hour show it yeah like yeah it should be 50 50 at least some of it pants and some and and half that's great you know you've got to have your toilet breaks and all that shit but I would personally prefer 80% of it to be marvellous and 20% of it to be people talking about how many people are sat in the crowd yeah and bands playing and stuff whereas right now there's such a tiny percentage of it that I'm impressed by some of the shit bits I can kind of enjoy and go for it yeah so I've been impressed and impressed by that that has shocked me impressed me I've been wowed by it and I feel the magic of the show whereas with NXT it's the other way around yeah 20% of it 20% of it disappoints me yes exactly it's that so what really really what what do you think that is is that is that just because we know full well that we're into it from a a pump and circuit you know yeah pump point of view so it's not the fact that WWE is this big grand you know they're not it's not just a gritty I can beat you kind of thing so you know that's not when you when you say oh you know I'm impressed by it it's not necessarily the match quality that is the impressive it is what what do you think it is about like NXT because to me the thing with NXT and answer my own question if you want to give you a bit of a layoff for me like NXT is so the storylines are so basic yeah they are just I can beat you but they build them up so then when you get that promo at the beginning of the match on a takeover there's a lot of shit that it's showing you so then then the match quality is good and there's a whole false finishes thing and there's the mad moves and because they are so good at telling a story with just the match whereas I think WWE tells the story and the match is secondary and how they get to that finish it doesn't really matter because that's that's what I think I think they put too much emphasis on people looking strong coming out of the match regardless of whether they win or lose and that to me that breaks a shitload of momentum for it and maybe it's because you've got a seven-hour fucking show and you can't have every match where people going men's up the end because people would get knackered but I still I still don't believe that because we've experienced that and I didn't move from that fucking chair no absolutely no I'm still booing the shit out of the Roman Reigns at the very end we couldn't see we couldn't see anything but we didn't move we didn't go to the toilet we didn't get a drink it was hours it was hours and hours and we were a Florida and it was pretty warm we weren't in heat though to be fair like the sun would be brown but like we were hot probably first we had one drink at the start but then I didn't want to drink it because of a scagnet in a way so like you didn't want to miss a thing we were blue to it yeah we were but that's because it's live and it's happening in front yeah you can retrospectively say something shit you know from now to the end of the time I do believe it wasn't shit but there's a lot of matches in it there's a lot of matches in ww in general where the finish is not satisfying I think that is the I think that's the thing because like you know when we're watching the Tyler Bay Jordan Devlin match from take over battle too it's a mad springboard corkscrew in DDT into the Tyler driver he kicks out you know you could argue that's when it should have finished because then he went up and did his corkscrew kind of moonsol thing which has never been to anyone and then he's pinned him so that was a bit of a weird one it's the weird finishes that I can't get me around why they do so often because it is so often like it's not you know you know for some reason the only let like one match on the entire WrestleMania card have a finish which is like a spear and a one two three yeah like everything else seems to be mad so it's like the whole like Ronda Rousey doing a semi-wound drop thing in sewer pin yeah and the crowd are like what that's the finish to the main event it's those little things I think they get wrong consistently whereas NXT because you know we watched we've watched a lot of wrestling so we know the difference between however John Cena is a shits wrestler and he's super clumsy however he has mad finishes where they're like where everyone's on the feet and what the fuck because because the sequence has been good getting into the finish so the fact that they can't for some reason they can't get it right because you know and a prime example of a perfect finish is I can't even believe I'm going to give you a props with this is Orton Cephrolins that was a perfect finish so that was a pretty pretty standard back and forth match and then and then he goes for the first time he goes for the curb stomp or flings him up and RKO's on the way down and then looks like he's having an orgasm because he's just like yes we did it like because you know the whole interview thing afterwards or the 24 way and all he was like I was trying to get him to do that for weeks and he wouldn't do it he was like let's just be safe and let's just finish it normally it was like no let's do this let's do that is the last big WWE finish that I can remember another one of WWE wise I think was just on a row with Shelton Benjamin into the fucking HBK super kick where he springboarded into the fucking and got pinned and brought Jim Ross one oh my god yeah amazing and it's those but that they happen on an ex-seen here on every pay-per-view so we're all used to them now yeah but there's no reason why they can't happen on the main roster because that that finished because the match itself Rousey um jesus my mind's going really mad so Rousey Lynch and Charlotte deserved about finishing that 100% Bailey when she had a WrestleMania moment deserved about a finish and I don't know if that's something because I think with an ex-se everything's on lockdown and they're like this is what you are doing you're doing this this is how you finish the match whereas I think with WWE because there's so many writers you know you've got an official per match so you've got an official who is acting on Vince's behalf per match and because they're not you know they might be rehearsing certain aspects of it but Vince isn't gonna sit there and watch every rehearsal every match he's gonna get a breakdown of what they're gonna do and he's gonna go yes or no so I don't think he will go into the the the minute detail of how each match finishes I think he might do for some of them like a Brock Lesnar match or the ones where you think it's like Real Mega but I just don't think he has that much say in it I think it's the official that's kind of dealing with it that will do and then Vince will just okay something that's why he would have been so angry at Owens and um Jericho because he because that's not what he wanted but what he wanted has only been communicated via a fucking memo so how are you gonna do that whereas Triple H and those guys who are orchestrating NXT will be like what are you thinking for the finish I like that idea go with it whereas Vince will hear it via Chinese whispers that all Ronda Rousey will have Becky up it'll be this epic match Ronda Ronda Ronda will do a some own drop thing into a roll up and the crowd are gonna go ballistic because it's gonna be something else yeah you can see coming but they won't but it but in reality it didn't happen like that happened roll up one two three and the crowd went what yes yeah I'm in agreement with you I think that as well because I think there's more of an emphasis on the main roster about like getting from A to B and whatever happens in between you just got to get to B or A to Z I should say you got to get to Z said you just got to get there and then the wrestlers do their thing and it gets decided and it's like right okay well great and plus they've got that mad schedule where even the wrestlers themselves don't want to hurt themselves because they know that they've got like potentially Raw the night after Smackdown the night after that is it still filmed on a Tuesday but showing on a Friday or is it not sure like whatever and then you're on the road all the time and no one wants to get in your normal so like they've had a bad fall or whatever and all that shit so and of course I think like there's just a heavier emphasis on telling a story through the match in NXT because there ain't the time to have like mad backstage stuff and like crazy segments and like people in the ring just chatting just chatting away and then the comments that's got to the commentators chatting away and the shitload of adverts I mean they're on the telly nails it might change but how I hope it doesn't but well the other thing with champer and gagana where they smashed up the performance center oh really which is a good which is one of those good segments yeah every time like when Undertaker and Brock Lesnar did their thing backstage that was growing I think there's just a difference I think you're right I think the whole like Vince is detached and Bladi Blah too many cooks there's too many cooks on the main roster and I think it's tight on NXT yeah I think that the the channel from wrestler to triple H is much shorter yeah we're talking a few people yeah I bet there's a bit about the rhythm yeah I bet there's just a triple H well when it comes to take over he will be very in control of saying take over has to be no perfect it's got to be Sean Michaels is there yeah so they're the ones who were both of them so it might be one removed so it's Sean's your main guy and then Sean will say to triple H what do you think of this because this is the thing like on paper so if you've got I can't remember all the people in the match what you've got Bailey and all you know and all the Sasha child whoever was it is when we went at WrestleMania whoever was in that match so right so Bailey's going over guys let's talk about how we do it well I think it would be really this is Bailey talking and whether this happened or not I've got no idea it might have been said to her or she might have come up with the idea I think it would be a really good idea because I love match and I'm only savage so much it's a win with that elbow and the official goal which I want there's a WrestleMania it's like the anniversary of the match and my whole you know something like that and then the ideas will start floating on actually yeah if you get up there and do the thing which she didn't do no but if she got up there and did because that's what they were saying like oh she's paying homage to match and running savage if she did the finger and then did the elbow drop then the crowd would have been like yes it's over one two three cheer well because she just did an elbow drop and then pinned whoever it was flat it went completely flat if she did the elbow drop and then was like doing this and then did the Bailey to belly pin crowd would have gone ballistic yeah but because because and it's tough because you've got to know that because we're just we're nobody's absolute nobody's when it comes to it I truly believe that everybody will this is what the armchair wrestling fun what I believe is that if they put if they said to me right you've got this match at WrestleMania and you're the official of it you've got Triple H against John Cena against Daniel Bryan Daniel Bryan's got to go over and he wins the title it's got to be for me a moment where everybody goes mad if he's faced everybody's got to be cheering so all the way through that match Cena at Triple H have got to be snap like like cheap shot in him yeah and then he's pretty much just a match between this is just off the top of me head match between Triple H and Cena lego and I then he comes back in gets a bit of momentum gets knocked out again so crowd like yeah oh god and do that keep doing that so the crowd are like fucking come on like the we'd likely did with WrestleMania 3 so the ending to WrestleMania 30's Triple H match was perfect it was to flip over the back back into the corner running knee as soon as he hit that knee everybody's on the feet everybody's going fucking ballistic yeah I think that's the thing is that the wrestling has or that has to do that movies dramas soaps don't have to do they've got to give you a clue to get the audience ready to cheer whereas that doesn't happen so all these writers when they did that advert about join the content team nice to work on a soap nice to work in movies like what what you don't what you want in movies it's a shock people in that moment in wrestling you've got to give them a clue as to what's coming a couple of seconds before so they get ready because they will give you the wildest cheer when they know when they don't know and it's a shock they won't cheer exactly they'll just go well that's happened forever though yeah the kicks of the stomach what's coming next the stunner you know he's pulling his arm band off it's people's elbow time rock bottom he gets him in that position it's happened forever triple of Undertaker got in his throat well what's changed like what's changed Vince has been at helm forever he knows how to work so difficult strange like why and he he is the master and they were always the master of the solo you know like i'm sorry i love you like it's perfect example perfect example oh my god the best example you give you give them the chance to take stock in that moment camera closer place face i'm sorry i love you you know that that kick is the end because he's just done that why is that over now why does that not happen any because the only time when and this doesn't matter this this actually kind of works both ways so the streak being broken was an f-5 that broke the streak so it wasn't like a you know a suplex just a regular suplex and then he pinned him yeah but the noise from when that three got counted because everybody was so into the match was a shock it was like that was like a collective what yeah everyone was like what the fuck like looking at each other saying they've just seen the street being broke so that's different because that's a shock like a genuine shock and the amount of like kickouts and all that kind of stuff everyone just takes that's what made that f5 into the pin so good because it was like oh it's just another f5 and he's gonna kick out because the streets not gonna be what you know so that works but it's when it's not a normal way that something gets finished and again you know if you don't have those things in there if you don't have those matches in there that do that then it is it would become predictable and it would become boring but NXT seems to be doing up and doing that for years where they have the big move as the finish but for some reason like it's not boring you know well you're at a wrestling show you want to you want to be on your feet and ready for the end on your feet if you're not already on your feet and standing but like you you want to feel that feeling of your ass just taking off from the seat and going oh oh yes it's the end oh oh it's not yeah you know you rather than you sat in your seat and it just finishes and then you've got then everybody in the place it's got to get their ass out the seat with no excitement yeah the first is your ass off the seat where you can't stop yourself because you're going oh shit what's gonna happen then when he just finishes and you're also saying you then just got like stand up really slow and someone's gonna slow weird clap exactly that can happen that feeling can happen in a variety different ways what I don't mean like the big move is in a finisher yeah you don't have to be a finisher but you know because you can have the heel cheating yeah is again anything that signals that something's happening like the breath's got its back turned low blow into a pin or whatever then that's again it's enough to tell you that it's that it's over but these random you know random roll-ups and that kind of stuff is good when it's like the underdog winning yeah and it's on a roll or something like if Kofi went against Brock Lesnar and he was getting shit kicked out of him for ages but then Kofi suddenly got did a roll-up and won the match that would get a massive response because it's a shock you're looking for a shock in that whereas with Becky Ronda and Charlotte you're not looking for a shock it's the main event in WrestleMania you're looking for a definitive ending you're not looking for a roll-up and then Ronda standing up going what I know I know what to me if that was me and I thought knows how we would get there but if that was me I would have had Lynch getting both Charlotte and Rousey in the fucking dis-armour somehow and they both tapped out at the same time because then that completely solidifies the fact that Becky's the champ whereas at the moment you're like well Ronda Rousey got rolled up she couldn't win at any time of course yeah and that's what you do on a random Raw yeah exactly if they've got against each other when you know they're going against each of WrestleMania that could have been a Raw match leading up to the big event like it wasn't like obviously the rest of it was great yeah it was great and there were some amazing spots and really I do think that for a lot of it they did put themselves on the line and it was Ronda's he definitely did she was all over the place she's just she's fucking crazy what she's been wrong told Divas what's she on told do you the last season oh Jesus fool yourself she's not like a hey girl she's fucking nuts though she's living on a farm with all her animals right she's living on a farm she's got a youtube channel I think so and then they're just like the animals that they raised and all that shit and what's that I don't know I've absolutely but fuck me though I think you've got to be a bit around there how did yeah how did the um because I can't quite remember how did the uh debut finish oh with Triple H instead yeah for the rest of your time was that uncle was that uncle locken disarming the same or an ambair in the same time I think so I can't say what it was it was she did it on so they had that was a spot but she did it on step I think to tap her out right don't remember don't remember it was a bit where she had her arm and was going like that and she's like bang and then she's like tapping straight away it was great well that's that's that's what I mean it's definitive it's definitive ending well that match was choreographed within an inch it's a lie and I do think that that is that is such an anomaly of a match and look how fantastic that match was and he went down really well they threw every single bit of psychological crowd popping that they had up their sleeves yeah threw at that the whole triple h bit fighting crowd popping for that cut angle then fucking getting the uncle lock on you know everything that you could put into that they put into it with the ending of rousey looking strong and breaking step down but that's the luxury you've got of people who can rehearse and rehearse and rehearse that will match you out on the road all the time so that was a great match yeah and so was Steph and Bree and Bree Bellerus fucked up a few times like you know she's not the best but we should not yeah but we that's probably the best match but that was a great you and I both really enjoyed that match and arguably Cena and Nikki against Miz and Maurice was a very choreographed considering that she had to watch your neck because it was broken a fucking other place so it's like so they had to re-sort that match out so that she didn't fucking echo and I'm not going I'm not I'm not one for giving them their performance but that match was so rehearsed it's such a big moment that they had to prepare for yeah so these overly rehearsed matches do actually work pretty well on the big stage they just don't I don't think that they do them and I don't think they rehearse and I think that the more famous the person is the less they rehearse the match so every shame at man match is pretty good because he ain't a natural wrestler so he's rehearsing that shit till the end of time whereas I think you'll get people who are great wrestlers who will do this this this this oh wouldn't be cool to finish like this and we'll practice it a few times but they're not putting everything do you think that shinsuke AJ they went into they went into it with about half an hour of just a show cocky cocky that's what I think cocky that's what I think yeah because that felt flat as a fucking pancake so disappointing so disappointing it was such a shame but that's yeah I do think that that is the thing where the less experienced wrestler can come out with a WrestleMania and look amazing or at a pay-per-view like the Bree and Steph like and they can actually rather have a match where you go because I mean I don't know what pay-per-view that was no SummerSlam we've definitely can't tell you another match it was on like that but that's the one I remember yeah and the WrestleMania with like Rousey Angle Triple H and Steph that was the takeaway yep that was the takeaway so that was the year before last at New Orleans then yes I think it was and that's the match that I thought was top well arguably that's why they got the main event the year after because I got such a reaction yeah yeah yeah and then but then you've got a lot of experienced wrestlers who aren't putting in that our whole fucking life's on the line here are egos on the line with this match yeah SummerSlam 2014 let's have a look at the unwrkipidicard and just just say what else was on that show event so they're pretty pre-show apparently Rob Van Dam beat Cesaro main card so Miz I feel like wasn't that one of Rob Van Dam's last matches? I don't know it's been bad though at the time since it's a little bit bad so Miz again Sigler for the Intercontinental title AJ Lee against Paige Rusev and Jack Swagger in a flag match Separolins against Dean Ambrose in a Luma jet match Jericho against Bray Wyatt Stephanie Manne against Bree or against Reigns and the main event was Cena against Brock Lesnar which actually I do vaguely remember who won I think it was like Lesnar so no I don't remember because I think to when I watched Cena F5 feuded onto the stairs and won that way so I'm thinking of a different one but yeah Lesnar beat Cena for the title maybe we I think I might have remembered that because I think we thought Cena was gonna win and we were a bit buzzing I think that was the time where we were like holy shit that's amazing I think the crowd were too and I think the crowd was in about Lesnar winning yeah because it was sick it like he was saying that but the thing is is that you can be two un accomplished wrestlers and you can put on a show that is great if you rehearse it yes put your soul into it and as I say Bree will have a luxury because it's against Edge you'll been pulled off the road yeah she'll have been able to rehearse that till the end of time so do you think that's the difference then so the NXT guys come re-assitting the performance center I think there's a lot of things that goes into NXT I think that might be one and I think that you've got import of someone who can write scripts and care about the wrestling too because such a disconnect with the content team or like the people who write the scripts and stuff sorry the people who write the scripts and the wrestling I think are two considered two totally different things in WWE in the main roster have you got the content team and write stories and I don't think they're linked to any sort of wrestling moves or what anyone can do or what the end product is whereas I think in NXT it's more ingrained together there's probably about five or six of them making the decisions yeah and I think that they all are 50 yeah and then it's a case of okay you know like Gagano and Champion you're gonna feud and it's gonna be really nasty oh well when we feud how about we rip up the fucking thing and we do you know it's I feel that was horrible it's collaborative and I think there's probably more back and forth and it ties into the wrestling whereas I think the stories in the main roster are separate are the wrestling separate and then they've got a try and they have got a try and tie it together but on the microphone and so on yeah because on the face of it it's like you can't you can't understand why because the thing with like Roman Reigns is he can never win a match in a strange way and I'm sure people shouting it you know I was saying I was saying I was just one missy was one that like I can't remember like the WrestleMania when he beat all the taker you know he did the match two spring spear so you knew it was over yeah and he was like oh god please get out of jesus here we go but at least you that was that was a big moment like I can't I can't remember a time where Roman Reigns is one of match that hasn't ended with the spear so you know and like in the same with Cena like Cena's obviously got f u or actually just whatever it's called and the submission both of those you know what's coming so it's like you know how many paper view so it's a good question really how many paper view matches has Cena won via roll up or via something that was a little bit off what the normal thing is because this is that that's that's the difference for me that's the difference because you've got you know the NXT has hit and the finishes winning or the hit and the mad move or something mad happening to tell you to count one two three or to say tap so that's I think that to me that's the difference I think that's that's the real and I'm gonna be watching rest even though you know there's no crowd so you don't get that instant feedback but I'd be very interested to see if Drew McIntyre wins with the claymore kick because he's got him and he's kicked he's kicked him so he's kicked him about 20 times up to this point with that so he's got away with the claymore I hope he's gonna win you don't think McIntyre's gonna win no no see he's been so he's been booked too strongly I hope he's gonna win because no crowd I think I'll roll it on so Lesnar will win and then we'll do it again yeah yeah and I would prefer it to be quite honest with you see the fact that I would prefer that means they're not gonna do it I think he's just gonna win and just gonna carry on yeah maybe I mean maybe the will maybe the will because they don't want the people at home to get more pissy about but I would just take the hit now if I was in WWE and I could make a decision I go here winning you winning so the problem with this is I think that's a possibility and they probably talked about that but why they can't do that is we don't know how long this is gonna go on for no true life shows yeah it could go on for months because we've been putting to a 12 week thing which doesn't look like because people aren't doing to it because it's gonna be 12 weeks looks like it's gonna be more than that so you might be getting into like July or August before you can start doing live shows again yeah that's a long time to my brought Lesnar as your champion still well I agree when he's not even there on the show well they've done it before the half but it's shit it is shit but the whole show is shit right now and I think putting the belt on McIntyre I don't think makes the show any better when there's no crowd I think because every show is gonna be one of them shows where there's one match and it's throwback videos so is there any real point it can't be though it can't be if they can't for the foreseeable future if they if literally they get told you've got three months where you can't have a crowd yeah but after two weeks your wrestlers can mingle again if they say if they're self isolated you've got to do a Raw show that is a Raw show you can't just have an hour long runble on every show because then because nobody will tune in because nothing's happening I know well that's the reason why we're taking the piss at the beginning of our Vince being like in his chromatose today this is the reality that they're facing what do you do what on earth do you do I think you've just got to keep it the same regardless whether there's a crowd there you have to do what you were going to do at WrestleMania and I know he's a fucking bastard for the day before changing his mind like he did with the streak he decided the undertaking was gonna lose on the fucking day and that's that's what's big as a streak you know he's decided on the day that the take is gonna lose that streak well if we've got another so as it was helpfully pointed out on a week on Saturday when have they ever said that a week on Saturday it said all the hoordons in the Raw was it Raw that a week on Saturday which means not this Saturday the Saturday after random day weirdos but um they do that a lot though because when I was watching stupid I never saw us as a week on Saturday I have to take about five minutes to understand well that that Raw that was so it must be a decision that they made so that Raw from Winnipeg the first thing that comes up was um Super Showdown this Saturday so there's no date included in that that must be a decision that they've made about people will think oh it's a Saturday so not this Saturday next Saturday rather than rather than saying the 24th or whatever it is you know whatever day it actually is it's fourth and fifth of it of the baby well exactly there you go that's you've just you've just made their point so like we don't know what the fucking day is but the one day when it says a week on Saturday and it means get to Saturday and then it's another week it's fucking not today but you still but you still know though you see still go well it's not this Saturday whereas the fourth and fifth of April you're like what days then are they yeah so but we know it's a Saturday and Sunday because we fall wrestling and they're always going to do it on a Saturday and Sunday what's a somebody who is less inclined to care but we'll just watch it if it's on we'll go fourth and fifth what's the fourth so that's actually was that a week on Saturday or the week on Saturday we'll have a WrestleMania party just me and you because we can't invite anyone because we're self-isolate I just feel like Americans we can say a week on Saturday to Americans and that's fine we can't say it's quarter to two do you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah that troubles me brain yeah no I know it's like it's not quarter to bitch it's fucking 145 it's like no it's like well if you can say a week on fucking Saturday when you're 10 days out it's quarter to me I do not mean but like anyway but anyway the what I'm what I was saying was the whole like reason I got onto that is that because he changed his mind on the daily and even the day before we still have a week on Saturday so if and it won't happen but say for example in America because they've got that shit locked say the death at all and the cases go down the corona and we can see a bit of an end in sight and they go oh a week on Saturday actually guys we only need another couple of weeks of this and we can start opening stuff up again Vince might change his mind you might do but the art filming matches for WrestleMania as we speak true but they might feel two endings yeah they could do yeah do you know what the fucking wheel won't they go game of thrones that bitch yeah they'll film seven endings so every match will they'll film double endings and then Vince will literally be on his own just with an editor just going fuck it run Roman Reigns getting beat and Roman's like sat on going what's the fuck Goldberg's still the champ and Goldberg's like already like fucking piling the pounds he's eating cake whilst watching it you know the one where Becky Lynch is a man oh my god like this literally every eventuality it's like the first AD comes out goes Shane and Becky and Vince is just said he wants to do a spot where it looks like you've got a cock yeah you're okay the bow shouting at me now Vince no I agree I agree girls no I'm on your side I'm on your side Becky no the bow from happy now bow from happy now it's not something we can just edit in you oh god yeah well the fact that what we often said is the fact that he's over two days yeah so we've got two days of Gronk he's got me on for five minutes the host of WrestleMania never does more than five minutes yeah he's not gonna be looking at his teeth and going yeah look at his teeth he's not too much like an assistant I just cannot get him safe holy shit yeah no I yeah I don't quite know I don't know are they gonna still sing the national anthem it's gonna be awkward I don't know what's gonna happen well this is again if it wasn't such a like a monumental headache for Vince as it is now he's got to figure out what opens and closes both days oh no yeah so what do you have so what do you have so well it's an easy fix for me Roman Reigns Goldberg ends day one broughlers nerd McIntyre ends day two well yeah absolutely but I think it'll be a women's match ending day one do you think reigns do you think reigns and reigns will open day two you reckon that that that twists me melon man I think if they're thinking about it they'll have Becky will end night one that'll be the end of night one but the whole Becky Lynch things died it does as it well she doesn't get she doesn't get cheered on the building like I think that will end night one right just to show willy who cares there's no crowd you but that this is a thing you've got you've got you've got to have so if you've got me you're sat over arms cross yeah defensive defensive if you have Roman reigns is much and broughlers match on the same night you know and they say that because they've got my answer before on they can't they can't just say just she wouldn't hear who knows what match is gonna be where yeah well that's the only way but if you if you have one day that's more stacked than the other day then it's gonna be let's face it who the fucks watching who the fucks sticking around to watch Becky Lynch getting shaded by after the shame of days like performance tonight I don't know I don't know but like that ain't getting anywhere near a main event and guarantee it because neither of them have done anything to me it is true it is true the only just the only just got given it I think we're under housing to the next I know I understand I totally understand well whatever but like I'm glad we did it pretty well yeah because then because then you have the two title matches on the Sunday I think we'll do that but I think we'll finish with one title match and finish with another fucking Cox again in it Cox ending the night and just get you dicks out boys is the end of the fucking show fucking have a sword fight with your little fucking pork swords sick of it you had your moment last year one fucking year one year one fucking year the fucking year then I've got just a load of fucking grease stuck greasy air ugly bastards over two nights and the show like the kings cut off cut off you don't deserve it no they don't I'm actually put Charlotte and rear Ripley over yeah rear Ripley sounds a little bit like Ripley's Billy do not believe it or not he sounds a little bit like a soy shall be on pen and tell us fools hi I'm real Ripley I'm about to believe it or not I'm about to win this match it's like no I'm not Triple H you squeeze well that's what I was about to say is like Triple H is X versus Triple H is newest newest one ladies no no needles poor stuff not a steroids she's apparently a big pink girl though that she cooks Eva so what's Triple H made her up made her up slow the steroids and kids so then she needed even more steroids to close out now we're going to go into the van out we're going for time on time is it um it's 10 37 Christ do you want to be your bother with this stuff we've compared well you guys are topic and I never thought about it but when I talk it was shit I was just like I was blacking so you didn't know I did I did but shit it's not what it's all about if you've got something well to me it's an hour it's an hour it's an hour's conversation maybe what is it well it was the weirdest storylines oh fucking I feel like past that now I'll be talking about just swinging dicks we're gonna eyeball pork sauce ending the show WrestleMania is going to be so interesting shit I'll give it the most interesting WrestleMania that's a bit not the best but the most interesting let's just add a little nosey what they do and they know the world's eyes are on them that is stressful Vince will be stressed well so they've said even though for us it was free so we don't actually start paying for the network again until what did you get a moment yeah because I signed up with a different email address so I got one they've made the network free for a month just in general which you know it's a bit can I just tune in for the first time your first wrestling or anything you'll be like what the fuck is this yeah yeah it's a news grunk it's a news grunk I think he's special it's this grunk guy this year's making wish it is in the ultimate warrior award you've had too much wine and I'm too tired to be talking about shit I'm fully I'm falling do you know what it's not the fact they've had too much wine it's that I've had wine I'm falling you should fight it and be like no I'm fine I'm fine I'm fine I'm talking about swinging pogs I'm not sitting on ending shows the shit I mean women's shit so you but like at least she just dispersed the shit so that women can have a bit it's over two nights come on they're all crap all the fucking matches gonna be crap yeah so just at least you know let one end of show for fuck's sake instead of this the fucking guard the guard of the end of the show being a massive penis I feel like this is ridiculous I think massive is going a bit far as I know cuz I'm so much steroids in the ball I actually got inverted penis it's technically they are fucking women aren't they fucking fannies oh jesus fucking christ we're just gonna get that on that I'm not fucking ready to end this shit anytime soon why should you want to go bad I'm pretty tired if I'm honest I'm fucking fully ranting me well what do you want to do I mean it seems like a bit of a mood point now should leave it for another another show the five most bizarre WWE storylines of all time go on you want to do this as well go on let's do it oh fucking naka no do you want to do you want to leave this because if you want to go bad listen listen listen I think we need to end with some of the other parks or so let's do this so this is just a random bleacher report ah of course that's from like 2013 for fuck's sake I don't know how good this is gonna be but yeah so it's basically five of the most bizarre storylines I'm gonna skip the first one though because it's not bizarre okay it's just a it's just a way of like showing that we never do anything right sort of sink our versus sink our right so they had apparently they ran a thing where it was like they had a good sink our evil sink our same dude well no because it's changed in there so one of them went out injured and they replaced him with the other one and brought back and they feuded for a little bit on tv this is a fact this is a fact so they had a um a couple of matches so the way the way it says hey okay let's do it so to most fans the second Sin Cara who was actually the original one okay just showed up for no apparent reason and just and just had matches so they didn't they didn't build it up or anything but apparently Hunako who was the new Sin Cara the one that we had the pitch taken with yes did a promo in Spanish yeah it's like a Spanish like WWE kind of outlet basically telling the story of when they actually had a match in the past and mask versus mask match where he was forced to give up his mask and change his perspective as owner so it was really interesting like what they were going for but in the end it just fizzled into nothing because they didn't do it right so here we go okay so we've gone to another one so from that to meh young's pregnancy oh for the analysis the hand it's a hand so back when mark henry was sexual chocolate and wwe was trying to get him to quit mark henry fell in love with 77 year old meh young not long after the hook so may announce she was pregnant even though she was placed at the decades into the menopause when she went to labor it looked like she might be developing complications but it turned out okay and she gave birth to a hand i'm not sure there's anything else we can answer right listen why am i don't know right okay why is this okay why do people got all these hilarious well she gave birth to a hand and no one questions it's like oh but it's dead for me no but why is it funny because it's hand well the fact that it wasn't explained is right no no because it because what could you have done how could you have explained the hand why why was it hand i don't know i think i'm not just like a indie born baby or something i was like mark henry's baby why was it just hand i don't know it's gonna put me forever i don't understand it's not you're not you're not meant to it's not for me you're not meant to it's random it's like no field in comedy it's out there it's not wrestling that random at that point what's in that random i told fix that's the way why i mean google why i hand no i can't see no i can't see no i can't next one you can't give me the answer i don't want to know oh for the next you go i'll try and find out why it was um and what the scientific rationale was yeah why it was just one fake fucking hand okay so this one is particularly grim i think this is whatever the hell happened with kane and lita so in 2004 kane decided to beat up mahar the on a regular basis okay mats girlfriend at the time was leah i was horrified by this and tried to find a way to stop it so kane decided to wooleye by kidnapping and eventually declared to her that he'd stop beating up mat and be menacing to her on the one that she would agree to spend the night with him okay she agreed to this okay okay kane's intentions didn't stop there the monster wanted to breed so he posted listen now listen to this i never know this right so he poked a hole in the condom that leah was going to insist on using and she got pregnant by a cane hope to imagine kane dressed up in the outfit with a little pin put in a jolly no can you imagine that that image no no no no kane was honorable though so he wanted to marry her after impregnating oh honorable yeah this somehow led to hardy versus kane in a match where the winner got to marry leah kane won happy to baby we're getting there okay within a few months it seemed like summary realized that there's a pin tracked down or this being dragged out for the length of a full-term pregnancy isn't a feasible idea so the way out was development or wrestler jean snytsky so you're remembering kicking the baby oh yeah yeah knocked kane into leah who then miscarried oh my god and then all of a sudden kane turned babyface defending leah's honor against nitsky kane and leah's ions lasted for way too long and it ended up with leah's turn on him to join edge edu defeated but came for a little while full of sore allowance finished so to summarize and his good summarizes mat hardy was such a weakling he couldn't defend his girlfriend from kane kane kidnapped leah kane raped leah both by co-opting it into an act to prevent his assaults on her and matt and sabotaged the calm don kane totally caught caught in arctic in the process leah their miscarriage then joined forces with her rapist then leah turned on kane and that made her a bad person sorry about that big laugh but wow yeah now there's a thing here for like a kane on the taker viewed and there's this fucking shitload so that's my so this is the one i'll finish on because i do find this one and i find it for me to this day in late 2002 tory wilson's father al wilson started appearing on smackdown every week and no one's sure why he wasn't a wrestler of any kind or any kind of performer he was just a sad looking older gentleman in comes the evil dor mary who decided to seduce al again no one knows why tory wilson was horrified especially when she caught them in a shower however al was fully clothed but even more so when the happy couple announced that they were getting married al's an old guy tory would do anything to stop the wedding as you would think so dorne said she'd leave al if i quote i will leave you alone if you have sex with me another have sex with me to stop me from doing something angry tory agreed and an episode of smackdown was built up to them showing a video of them having said no which apparently didn't happen since dorne was evil she married al anyway and the wedding took place on smackdown with both involved parties stripping to their underwear gosh then dawn sexted alta death during their honeymoon sexted in which i mean as in had sex with him any time okay i think i know i sent sexual text messages no we said don't worry al is actually still alive okay but dorne had sex with him so much during the honeymoon that he right yeah great there you go great what time to be alive that was absolutely fucking ill absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely madness it was pure madness wasn't it i mean at the time you would just probably go on with it wouldn't you well it was normal then this was the time you know it was it was mental wasn't it life was math fucking was mental absolutely no was all what then let me tell you that they should have probably did right we don't i think we're done darling yeah because i can't make faces killing from the amount of life today good that's the whole point it is it is the whole point we'll not have every day well this day yeah any last words any last comments as we go into a week or week on Saturday it's Wrestlemania a week on Saturday yeah not this Saturday mind but a week on um no so what we've got left smackdown and next day tonight it's where so on a next day tonight triple ages apparently saying why you did completely ditched fucking cons which might even even i think it was half ten yeah so it was half ten it started so i'd be also a really stuck can you do the whole start i think so just remind it yeah um um you and i like to like a football game football getting in the mood uh you know so yeah there's still quite a lot of shows you've got so much shit to fill next week is technically the go-home shows but they're actually filming Wrestlemania marches now how far back do you think we're gonna go showing old matches on raw should we all go back to the glory days of Wrestlemania 30 and maybe show a match or two from there no i don't think they can anymore they've got Wrestlemania to plug you know they need to get what they need to do really is get them in over the course of the fucking week because they can't do arena shows so monday they need to like well this bad for example but like today they should have been filming raw for monday if it's not already like the purpose of it yeah i just like i've filmed the fucking show so we get an actual show of matches and its programs and whatever so they need to film them all and then have a bit of a backlog and they can just put it all do you actually believe the go-home show is gonna be a show of proper shirt without a flashback fucking needs to be i don't think it will be but it fucking needs to be though i think what's the point what do you mean it's well it might be all filmed but they can't just put in another hour long fucking match because apparently on that raw they showed them a mad women's match as well from the Wrestlemania oh we know they've been shirt packed for the last few years so whatever that is so there's literally an hour of raw so like it's only two hours long it's only two hours long it's only one says it's three hours it's not three hours it's two hours 15 minutes because they're aborts so they've literally dedicated whole hour to pass fucking events that's not selling Wrestlemania they need to sell it because they need people to fucking watch it because they're not getting any ticket money so the only thing that they've got now is saying we're giving it away for free it's going to be seen by 30 million people snickers you're paying on fucking 30 million dollars that's all they got to do show that should we get the fuck out of it let's get the fuck out of it okay i'm getting out i'm going to go over to press stop so i don't edit anything well until next time cheerio motherfuckers i'd press stop you bitches jesus