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We've got to do it more. I went away from it being like, hey, we should do this more often. We don't do it enough. We don't do it enough.

Andre Drummond as well, one of those interviews that I think he loves us because he did not expect us to ask questions that we asked. But a great interview. We're going to talk NBA Finals, the Stanley Cup stays in Tampa, Euros, and Fyre Fest of the Week. And of course, we have guest producers Jake and Youngstown Bob and PMT Means in the house.

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And PFT, are we really going to do this thing? Are we really going to do the thing where we start every podcast with Suns and Four? Suns and Four. Because we just started the podcast with Suns and Four.

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That's why I'm doing it. There we go. To support the bros in Phoenix. Oh my God, the bros.

We'll get to the bros. I mean, let's just say right now, there are moments in Phoenix where it just feels like it's Coachella or Burning Man, but it's an NBA Finals game. We both clipped certain fans that like, and then they showed the pregame. The guy, what was his name?

Oh, it was Dallin. Dallin. Dallin Husso. Dallin Husso.

You make that up like, I don't know. That is the name of the Burning Man. If we did that as a fake name, people would be like, dude, that's too far. No, Dallin Husso is the ultimate.

He's the Suns bro. I've noticed also that the Suns fans, they have such an eclectic look amongst them, but they all come together to create like the perfect energy inside that stadium. You'll have one guy wearing like a Suns shirt and a Browns hat, another guy like wearing a Yankees jacket over his Suns jersey with no wonder. They root for all different teams outside of basketball, but they're here for the Suns.

And when they're in 8K, it's different. It's a little different in 8K. It's way different than when they're showing like the British fans in 8K. And the cameraman has like a guy that got stabbed earlier that morning, and then a girl that looks like a guy that looks like me.

And then like six guys with braces to do from. But yeah, the Suns fans in 8K, it made the viewing experience that much better. It was incredible. So let's talk about the game.

So the Suns, well, let's start with the Bucs. Giannis was incredible. Giannis deserves more help. Giannis, well, he deserves more help.

He actually just deserves his max players, Chris Middleton, to play like a max player. He had 42. He was doing it all. Like everything that he wanted to do.

And maybe that was the Suns strategy. Like, hey, Giannis will get his. No one else will get theirs. But Giannis was like exceptional.

It was reminiscent, maybe not to the level, but that finals game, the classic J.R. Smith game when LeBron had like 50, he had like a 50 point triple double in a loss to the Warriors in that game one. Like this was a Giannis display. He was the best player on the court and he had no help because Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday were combined 12 for 37.

And we had this discussion the other day that Paul George gets paid a lot and he deserves a criticism because he gets paid a lot. Chris Middleton gets paid $33 million a year. Like Chris Middleton has had moments in these playoffs, but you need him to play better than what he played in the game tonight. Five for 16 and one for six and three.

Like you just, you can't win with that. You cannot win with that when that's your second best guy in a max guy. And Giannis at the line, to his credit, he was shooting the ball a lot faster tonight. I think he was averaging like eight and a half seconds, nine seconds for a free throw.

And I think he shot what, 13 to 20? Yeah, he was actually a decent night by his standards. A very good night by his standards. A level for 18.

A level for 18. That's really good. Yeah, for him. So he can't do it on his own.

His left knee, every time he hits the ground, I just get, I get a bad feeling about it because his body is so freakish that he was able to come back this fast. But you can tell it's not 100%. And that's kind of crazy. It's kind of terrifying to think that the stuff that he's doing out there is when he's not 100%.

He was doing the thing that we always say that LeBron should do every time he gets the ball, would you just put your head down and drive to the basket? Yeah. And he was just running people over left and right. It was such like violent encounters at the rim that there were like three times that someone just got knocked on their ass as he was going out for a layup or a dump.

And the refs didn't even do the thing where they blow the whistle and make a call one way or the other. They're just like, that's a fair play. That's a good clean defense. Giannis is just that much stronger.

He's that much stronger. And then the Suns, so everything I just said about the Bucs, the opposite for the Suns because the Suns, that was a complete team game. All five starters in double digits. It felt like they all had their moments.

Like, Mikael Bridges, well, Jay Crowder comes out. He's hot the first, he hits his first few shots. Mikael Bridges carried them in the first half. Then Devin Booker goes absolutely insane.

Like, everyone chipped in. Everyone played well. Devin, every single time the Bucs felt like they were making a run. Every time they got five or six.

And it was a game, pretty much the entire game, because they would come back, the Suns would just hit a huge shot in their face. And obviously, everyone will show that one possession, which was phenomenal, where everyone on the team touched the ball, and it was like kind of a stramble drill. And it was just like, that's a team that is playing cohesive basketball. And everyone knows their role.

And they all fit perfectly. And you can't beat that with one guy. And I feel bad for Giannis. He was trying to get us free tacos.

Free tacos if the Bucs won tonight. You can't just tease us with free tacos, bringing back the Doritos Loco, the fire taco, right? You can't just tease us with that and then not give it to us. Come on, Taco Bell.

We watched the game. We tried to support you. I did love that possession, though. The possession.

It was incredible. It was don't shoot until everybody touches the ball. That's a possession that your dad will email to you in a week when he sees the video online and be like, hey, remember when I used to coach your team back when you were eight years old? This is what I preach.

Fundamentals. Devin Booker following his shot. He followed his shot all night long. I would like to see the statistical breakdown of Jay Crowder's performance as it relates to how likely the Suns are to win.

Like, if he shoots over 50% from three, because he's not afraid to shoot. No. If he shoots over 50% from three, how often do they win the game? Because I would imagine that's the tipping point.

See, Malcolm Gladwell, fuck you, I can be smart, too. That's the tipping point for the Suns' offense. Because you have a chance of beating them if the role players don't contribute like that. But if they do, you have no chance.

Yeah. And like I said, McHale Bridges, like, in the first half, he carried him. He ended up at 27. Also, shout out our guy, Frank Kaminsky.

He had a trillion again. But let's just point out, not only did he have trillions, he had one minute, no stats, but he was a plus two and a plus minus. Oh, wow, huge. So, how about that?

Yeah, and you know what? No turnovers. No turnovers. So, the clean game from Kaminsky again?

Yeah, and he's eight long minutes. Wait, is he playing a perfect final so far? Yeah, yeah. Keep your eyes open on that.

He's a plus two overall. Yeah, but he's got a perfect stat line. Correct. He's got zero turnovers.

He could be one of the first people to ever do that. Let's get it done. I think he honestly scored like 20 points in the third quarter. That was insane.

I do feel bad for Pat Cometton. I said that out loud while we were watching, because the Bucs bench is short, and they just don't, they don't have enough guys, especially when the guys aren't playing, and he's out there, he's trying his fucking best, and there's still moments where it's like, oh, he probably shouldn't be in an NBA, he probably shouldn't be playing 34 minutes in an NBA fight, but he's out there trying. I keep thinking that he's Dante DiVincenzo. Yeah, who's out for the season.

Out for the season, yeah. Yeah, that hurts. I think that this could be a different story if Dante was in there. Yeah.

Is he actually still on the Bucs? He is, yeah. I think he is. Yeah, he just wears his ankle.

I don't know, something. Something. I love that guy, though. DiVincenzo.

I'm going to look at it right now. I will say something good about Bucs, because we like to have some fun with Bucs on this show. I don't think he got outcoached as badly as he did in game one tonight. No, he, I'm not going to pick on the halftime show, but Jay Williams did happen to say that the Bucs weren't making any adjustments.

They made like a million adjustments in the first half. They were trying everything defensively to stop them. And so I agree with you. Like he, they were, it just simply comes down to the fact that you can't have your second and third best player no show a finals game.

Like Giannis did more than enough that if Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday just make like three or four more shots each, it's a different game. And it sucks because you waste a performance like that from Giannis, but man, like you just, you can't have those guys no show like that. Well, I just saw, I just updated the box score here. They took an assist away from Chris Paul.

So he was at nine at the end of the game. They brought him down to eight. Can you imagine if the PMT's Suns in four bed had hit at 10 and then they took one away after the fact? I couldn't.

So it's a blessing. So it's a blessing that he didn't get to 10. Also, I just love the series because it's 2-0 on the over. And it was a life too short to bet the under day because that second quarter was terrible.

And then they just, that's the NBA, baby. I think the Suns ended up taking, I think they went like 20 for 40 from three. That's pretty nice. Yeah, 20 for 40 from three.

That's actually, look, we're a Suns podcast. We think it's Suns in four. But I actually think that that stat, 20 for 40 from three, is even more on the side of Giannis is so incredible. The team went 20 for 40 from three and only won by 10 points.

Giannis kept them that much in the game when they were shooting that well. They shot 48.9% from two. Yeah, they were on fire. And then 50% from three.

They're a really fucking good team. Like the Suns are just a really, really good team. And they're a team, back to that possession, they just play, like everyone knows their role and all the pieces fit so well together. Where, like, you just see it.

You see it, like they have every single thing they need. And Chris Paul at the helm. I don't know. Suns in four, although I do think the Bucs, I think the Bucs will win.

I want it to be Suns in four because, as we've said, Suns in four is just a lot of fun to say. You know what? It's not really a saying. It's more of just a mentality.

It's more of like, the Suns could win this series in gentlemen's suite. And that's still Suns in four. They still won four games. Yeah.

It's just all about, sometimes it's about the journey, not the destination. But I'm looking at campaign stats here. Do you remember tonight when Mark Jackson was like, the offense should run through campaign right now? Well, it was when he, I think it was the moment when campaign, it was like, it was a one-on-four, Cam being the one, and he shot a three-pointer.

That's just a respect to campaign, yes. And his three-point shot is, it's ugly, but it works sometimes. Champagne campaign, is that what you said? Campaign has moments where he really does, like, for stretches of a game, it was probably a three or four-minute stretch tonight, where he does think that he's Kobe Bryant.

Like, he thinks that, like, listen, everyone get out of my way. I'm not passing the ball. It's my game. Mamba mentality.

You gotta have it. It's Mamba mentality with not the Mamba skill set. Is there anything worse than having, maybe the worst players? I'm not saying this about campaign, but I'm just saying it about another team that has, like, the last guy off the bench with the Mamba mentality.

First, you have to have the Mamba physicality to get to the Mamba mentality. See, I like the Mamba, like, if you're a role player, if you're a bench guy, having the Mamba mentality is not always a bad thing, because you want a guy coming off the bench who's like, hey, he could catch fire. He could, like, he could do some things, like, pushing it a little bit. So, I like what campaign does.

I'll put it this way. What if Billy Football had Mamba mentality? That would be a problem. That would be a big problem.

Because Jake, the guy next to him, actually is Mamba mentality. Yes, yes, absolutely. He's more, Jake's more like Tim Duncan. Just silently, like, incredible.

Silently the GOAT. All right, so, Suns, I do think the Bucks are going to win on Sunday night. It is now, the Suns are going to win this series. I'll just say it.

I think you agree? Yes, I'm going to win. I'm actually going to revise. I think it's going to be a gentleman sweep.

I'm rooting for Suns in actual four, but I think it's going to be four to one. I do think, though, that Giannis is going to have a legacy resurgence in a loss in this series. Because in the Brooklyn series, everyone's like, Giannis, like, limited player. Well, no, he was going up against Kevin Durant, who, you know, however you want to argue it, one or two best players in the NBA.

He's not as good as him, but he still is really, really fucking good and a superstar in every pass of the game. I've always heard that role players play better at home. I don't know how true that is. It sounds like it's a really good thing to say, a smart thing to say.

So that's what I'm believing is going to happen in games three and four. So they'll get some contributions from, like, Middleton. Obviously, he's not a role player, but. And Lopez.

And Dana Beers. And Dana Beers. Is Dana going to be up there? I think so.

I assume so. He's got to invite from back to yard. Yeah, he's got to go. So he is the definition of a role player who will play better at home.

He is a Suns fan in a Milwaukee body. Yeah, that's the perfect description. Yes, that is. All right, let's talk some other sports.

The Stanley Cup is staying in Tampa Bay. Tom Brady, the town that Tom Brady lives in, those stats just continue to be ridiculous. I think we went over it. Like, every Bay Area team when he was growing up won.

When he went to Michigan, like, the Red Wings and then Michigan football. Then the Red Sox itself. Everyone won in Boston. Now in Tampa, you have three titles in less than 12 months.

And you've got World Series that was barely lost by the Rays. Yep. So Tampa was just incredible. I have the one thing that's nuts to think about.

You know, obviously, everyone goes to the UVA, losing to UMBC, coming back and winning it all the next year, right? That is the ultimate redemption tour. I think the Tampa Bay Lightning might be right behind that because the tweet, the famous tweet, I'll read it for everyone. This was after they got swept by the Blue Jackets in round one.

The Tampa Bay Lightning main account tweeted, we don't have any words and we know you don't want to hear them. We understand your anger, your frustration, your sadness. Everything you're feeling, we get it. This isn't the ending we imagined and certainly not the one we wanted.

Thank you for being there the entire way. And then they went and won back-to-back Stanley Cups. That's pretty much perfect, right? With the help of the no-cap lifestyle.

Yeah. Which I will not. We're not cathologists. I'm not going to argue it because I know that other teams, the Blackhawks might have done it.

So it may be a little different because Patrick King got hurt in the middle of the season. Right. In this one, Kucherov got hurt last year. Correct.

During that season. Correct. And then they used a special exemption this year. But you know what?

If you're playing by the rules they give you, can't really complain about that. And you know what? It's absolutely 100% something that Belichick would do. And also, Andre Vazilevsky, I probably butchered his name, he was incredible.

The stat that I saw last night, he is now in five straight series, closeout games, had a shutout. But that's incredible. Wait, what about game four? Because he didn't win game four.

No, no. In five straight closeout games. Yeah. So in five straight series, the closeout game.

The game that they ended up winning, not the one that they had to play. In the last game of the series, he has had a shutout. Five straight. I was a little bit confused about that because I was thinking back and I was like, wait, I thought they were talking about clinching games.

No, so he pitched a shutout in the Stanley Cup final last year against Dallas. Then every game that they won the series this year was a shutout. Yeah, he's amazing. That's incredible.

Me and Fais were talking about it as we watched the game together, that if his name was just like a little bit shorter, he would be a household name. Yeah. But Vazilewski, it's just like, if it was Vilewski, everybody would be like, yo, that's Valley. Or just Veski.

Veski, yeah. Veski. He's a sweet nickname. Like Van Beesbrook, that's a long last name, but the Beeser.

Yeah. The Skier. The Skier. Veski.

Yeah. Veski actually works. Veski plays. And I'm going to do something I never thought that I'd do.

I want to take my hat off to the Tampa Bay Lightning fans. Not third leg, Greg. Not third leg, Greg, but the rest of them. And not the people that sat around me and hit Nate in the face.

No, Nate deserved it. Nate deserved it. Nate would admit that he deserved it. Nate deserved it.

But they seem like a decent group of fans. Yeah. Do they have the longest sell-off streak in the NHL? That seems to me like, that's just us thinking.

Oh they're a Florida team They can't be that good hockey fans But apparently Tampa Bay Lightning fans Are actually very dedicated No My time in Tampa Bay Has only been during The Stanley Cup playoffs So I don't know What a regular season game I'm sure it's just as good But it is an electric Like environment Everyone is locked in I also would like to add The fan that followed me In the bathroom in 2015 And said he was going to beat my ass While I was wearing full pads Pissing at the urinal And I could not defend myself Because he could have just Grabbed me by the back of the jersey Sweater you while you're pissing I would have been fucked Sweater with your dick out Yeah he does not get included In the great fans There was one guy That was sitting right in front of me And he threatened to have me kicked out Because I was a Caps fan And then he was like You probably didn't even pay for these tickets You probably can't even afford them What is it that you do? And I was like I own a professional basketball team In New Zealand And then he just looked at me And I was like Do you own a professional basketball team? And his wife was staring at him And he goes yes He's like completely lying about it But absolutely not You can't get a big dick By the guy behind you That looks like Kid Rock with AIDS So it was Besides that guy I'm taking that guy out too I don't think we own the Water Dogs At that point But it's smart to not mention the Water Dogs Someone says something Because then they would have the one up He would have been like Okay yeah At least I don't own that team Yeah like that's the worst That's not something to brag about No Shout out to the Water Dogs We have two guys on the reserve All-star reserves You don't know how that works? A lot of superstars Don't like to play in the all-star game Because Yeah it's like DeGrom Who's our DeGrom?

Drew Snyder Drew Snyder's our Yeah he's our DeGrom He needs an enforcer You know like the guys Don't want to do the skills competition either It's become like Okay too risk of injury At this point So it's almost better That you get on the reserve Remember Andy Dalton was Like a Pro Bowl reserve For like three years in a row Mitch was in the Pro Bowl That's true Everyone did the whole meme Because it was Deshaun, Mitch and Mahomes All in the Pro Bowl How long into this Let's just say hypothetically Justin Fields lights it up And he comes out of the gate Like first month I'm just saying First month he throws like I don't know 15, 20 touchdowns Yeah And then runs for another 10 Great So if he does that Do all the memes about Here's what Patrick Mahomes has done Compared to the Bears quarterbacks In the time frame leading up to this year Do those go away? Do people just stop making fun of Bears quarterbacks? No it's going to take more time It's probably going to take more time I don't want to give it up that Because it has shifted Like the emergence of Baker And then Mitch Like the bad quarterbacks Have shifted to the Bears Yeah I didn't watch the draft this year Yeah right Fuck you The guy who runs the CBS sports account Like he hates the Bears No yeah Every single Like he basically does It's Dana Beer doing the Beer tweet He's like oh I need engagement Do the Bears tweet Do the Bears quarterback And then half of the engagement Is just people tagging you Hey remember that your quarterbacks all suck Yeah I do I remember I remember Alright Sneaky awesome sports weekend McGregor on Saturday night Wimbledon final Federer Where's Jake? Oh Jake's not here Jake Marsh decided not to show up Because his goat Federer choked Is Djokovic still in it?

Yeah I think he was As early as yesterday he was still in it Yeah I don't So I haven't followed up on that I really News travel slowly across the pond I'm going to watch At least 10 minutes of the Wimbledon final I'm going to have strawberries and cream I actually don't know if I'll watch 10 minutes He is Who's in it still memes? Baratini versus Hurkitz I'm going to go Wait who's playing against Djokovic? Djokovic versus Shapovalovic Okay I got Shapovalovic You don't have Sharapova? Shapovalovic?

I got Joker in four sets Four sets I do too I have Joker to win the whole thing Is anybody going to be watching Wimbledon in England? Is the crowd going to be completely empty there? It is a lot of Yeah I mean it's like 8am So no that's actually a great day Just go to Wimbledon Get fucked up there on some champagne Then go drink some warm beer And watch it come home I feel like the crowd is just going to be Just pounding beers Probably starting at about 10pm the night before Yep absolutely Alright so should we do We got a little fantasy lads Well yeah so I mean The finals it's at Wimbledon field We've been saying it's coming home For the last couple of weeks So we thought that we'd bring back One of our favorite segments From football season Yes The fantasy lad boys Fantasy lad boys Are you ready? Yeah okay Oi Oi it's me Nigel Garrison They said we're not coming home It's coming home Right it's coming home It's uh What's his name bud Comberbitch What's his name?

Benidic Comberbitch Benidic Comberbitch Me and the lads We're going to head out We're going to pull a couple Richards And tune some tings Only though We're going to have some I'm just reading KB's tweets With all the slang Wait bloody blood clot They said the British Would have their heads Hung like a chicken I say some chicken My boys got three yards So going to rock up to us With a few fat titties Then roll fat zim And be licked off Right innit Wait Wait what for bloody HD double cricket pass is that? Who are these boys? What the fuck is this me Giancarlo Mococciano It's Agio My mama is going to make Fucking sundae sauce Out of your rotten teeth England You're pieces of shit You think that you can Fuck with Italy? My friend My friend You're going to meet the paisans Some real fellas this weekend What's up It's Tony Ravioli We're going to be watching The game down on Jersey Shore DJ's in my car That's all I got Hey I didn't prepare anything It's coming Rome It's coming Rome bitches We never even been to Italy We just fucking love Italy Alright I just fucking love My great grandfather's from Sicily So go fuck off I love Sopranos memes Chef Boyardee Hell yeah I took a 23 and me test .01% Sicilian Oh fuck yeah But you better see my fucking license plate Got the Italian flag on it Hell yeah Hey I'm fucking parking over here Yeah Alright That's how fancy fuck it was So we've said it's coming home Yeah I'm switching I'm record scratch I'm on Italy Well so we had this discussion beforehand When you're watching sports That you don't really have A true rooting interest Because like I have no English I have no Italian Like I don't have a rooting interest right I'm rooting then for ultimate tragedy In the most epic way And there's nothing more tragic Than Wembley And the crowd shots that will occur If England finds a way to lose And after our discussion on Tuesday About how likable the English fans are I have to say Kind of left a bad taste in my mouth With that Harry Kane penalty Like one That was not a penalty On Raheem Sterling Two I don't think you should be able To rebound a penalty in soccer Why not I don't know I just feel like you should get it If you miss it you miss it I think that's what the law should be They should be more relaxed on the goalkeepers Being allowed to take a step or two off the line Yeah Or not allow the person to score on their own rebound You can't make it that tough on the goalie Because it was a great save Right it was And that's what you expected To hold those types of saves Exactly So I think they need to change the world You miss it you miss it It's a fucking free throw I would hit 9 out of 10 PK Vaggio never went after his own rebound That's just a fact So yeah I'm excited for that game I'm very excited I think I realized It's a combination of I like the Sopranos memes More than I like the it's coming home memes Because it's coming home memes And it's fun to say Until it actually comes home And you're like wait What do I do with it now Now that it's here I don't have space for it So I've decided that The Italian memes are way better Plus when you have a take on a sport That you don't know that much about And you're being proven correct on it Like my take on Chiesa Being an awesome player I'm rooting more for my own selfish brain As a narcissist To believe that I am A good soccer analyst Than I am for British people to be happy That was like that Italy-Spain game When it went to PKs Like Italy was laughing it up Yucking it up Spain looked like they were So scared for their life And I was like Italy's won this Just from body language alone When you play tiki-taka soccer Like the Spaniards do You look like a coward if you're losing You get your asses kicked And you just try to do that Triangle stuff all the way down the field You can't get past midfield You look like a coward It is funny that Spain just like They just pass They forget that you have to shoot Their shooting button's broken On FIFA They're like you can always Get a little bit closer Keep passing the ball I'll keep passing the ball We'll get there Their offense is like The Sun's half-court offense Except they don't have DeAndre Ayton to pass You're gonna need a Harry Kane The Tappanin Merchant Harry Kane He's gonna look like What's the other Harry Styles Harry Styles They're gonna make him look like Harry Styles this week I just love the Tappanin Merchant It gets everyone so upset Also people are starting To call him Panglin Because they score so many PKs It's true It is true Alright let's get to our interviews We've got two great interviews Ryan Russillo and then Andre Drummond Great interviews on Friday Then we'll finish up with Firefest On the 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You can get your first month The swipes are just $5 When you choose a monthly plan That's getroman.com slash take Okay here he is Ryan Russillo Okay we now welcome on Our very good friend It's been too long We want to make sure You didn't fall off the top ten Recurring guest list Which I think you might have But you're back in it It's Ryan Russillo Who's ahead of me?

I actually think I think Titus might leapfrog I think Titus might leapfrog That's fair Dan Heron maybe Mr. Portnoy Yeah Mr. Portnoy Ryan Whitney That's okay You're number one in my heart Pro athletes Look I'm competing with pro athletes All the time That's fine Yeah number nine in our program Number one in our heart So Ryan Russillo The Ryan Russillo Show Great podcast Go listen to it right now But listen to this first So let's start here NBA finals So as you know We're a huge Suns podcast We're the number one Suns podcast In the world Are you rooting for anyone In these finals? You don't actually care About these finals right?

Right so obviously You guys are making fun Of how much I love Chris Paul I did a weird video Where I said at the end of it He's everything you want As much about who won And a lot of times You're rooting against somebody Barkley Suns 93 I'd probably care about that one More than the 08 Celtics Lakers I would put this one Probably behind one of the Steph ones The first Steph one in 2015 But yeah Chris Paul Getting this if he gets it This will mean a lot To both Chris's family and mine So let me ask you this If you were to select one player From each team That you would want your Hypothetical non-existent daughter to date I'm guessing Chris Paul Would be the one from the Suns And then who won the bus? Chris Paul though I don't know if I'd want him Dating my daughter Because I feel like If he brought her home late Then it'd just be a huge argument He'd be like no He does look older though Than like you Like Aiden has the old face going So that was It's weird I don't know He really does look like He could be 40 And he's 22 or whatever it is He only got paid in college Which is a big red flag That's true But it's legal now He was a disruptor No see you guys are so behind the times Now if you do something wrong When it was wrong Everybody's like 15-20 years later It's like what are you talking about Now you're like Wait a minute None of the rules apply Like if we ever legalized murder Can you imagine OJ's tweets I was a political prisoner People forget when you were on The Life episode You said you gotta kill at least once Just to see if you like it Did I say that? Yeah it was a great line It was a very well delivered line It feels like it's a little out of context now But yeah I think I remember something like that I just tried to deliver it deadpan And it's like wait a minute Do you ever want a job again? Maybe you shouldn't do this If people don't know you Alright so Chris Paul So if you're a hypothetical son So let's say you have a son Let's go 20 years from now He's playing high school basketball And every 20?

No I mean the pregnancy takes At least 10 months So you're gonna get Let's say in a year you find Okay alright right You know the whole thing happens Not right in a second That was smart Okay I understand I gave him a little bump Yeah my kid's that dumb Yeah well he could But anyway So you're like Alright this is my son He's got everything that Chris Paul has I love this kid Because he's so competitive And then every other play he flops Do you say like Hey son I love you so much? No my dad used to do this with me After my games Like if I had a bad game You know we'd get in the truck Because he'd work construction And it had the signs on the side of it F-150 cherry red And we'd park We'd go and park somewhere After I had a bad game And he'd say hey I just want to let you know You decided you were gonna have a bad game On the ride over here tonight Wow was he right? Yeah was he right? It was unbelievable I mean he was a big time motivator for me Like that with Chris Paul Or a version of my son That was just like Chris Paul And I would be like look You know I'm here for you Your mother loves you too You know we're trying to do the best With the custody arrangement I'm sorry about the mistakes I've made But you gotta stop flopping Yeah we'd have a park And we'd maybe grab a sub Split a sub in the front cabin of the truck Because that's what my dad and I would do And yeah I couldn't That'd be tough That'd be really tough But I don't think he flops the way That other guys flop And I know everybody's gonna put that No he's right He's better at it Yeah he does it more He does it so much That he almost hurts himself Did you notice And I know you love Chris Paul I mean we are the number one Sons podcast But you came to the Chris Paul thing Like last week I saw it We've been on the train For like at least three weeks Yeah I just started it like When he got pushed by Pat Beverly He did kind of flop at the end He grabbed his face And then he realized Wait we're winning this game by 20 I'm good And he stood up and he like celebrated I saw that differently I gotta be honest with you This was Frank Kaminsky I saw Frank Kaminsky beat the fuck Out of Pat Beverly And everyone else saw something different Have you ever been pushed in the back Like that though When you're not ready Like we're lucky That's like getting rear-ended You know what That's the thing that they throw people At like pickup games for If you're driving a hole And somebody pushed you in your back When you're jumping up in the air It's actually the most vicious version of assault But it hasn't I've never had it Because I'm not a dickhead like Chris Paul Here's what I would say about this flopping I don't like any of it And the fact that anyone continues to call When the guard is bringing the ball up And he just stops And gets run over by a big guy And they give the guard the foul Like with all these changes That he's talking about All you have to do is get the rest together And say hey we're just gonna stop calling it And after a few weeks After you turn the ball over You take a terrible shot It goes over the backboard And Trey Young or James Harden Looking around Or Chris Paul getting run over These guys will stop doing it Once you stop calling it So I hate that play too But I think Paul does those Especially because it's in front of everyone You know that stop in transition Get run over and get a call It's so egregious and horrible That it's probably thought of Like in a worse sense In the basketball community Than guys just flop to the lane every time I mean Harden actually Will pull your arm into his body He takes the shot And the other guy's arms are pinned And then the ref calls it all Like I can't believe that Has ever been called more than once For any player's career Because we see it all the time So I actually think there's more floppers On shots and also on drives Than Chris Paul But when Paul does the deal Where he lets the guy run up his back It just looks so much worse Because it's the only thing we're looking at I also think that Chris Paul We need to give him some credit Because on a lot of these flops If he hadn't have flopped He was about to get hit Like a half second afterwards You can see like He has pre-crime in his head And he knows like Hey here comes an elbow I might as well flop before it hits me And then you know As he's out of the ground The elbow does swing through his airspace So it's almost like You know he's a good point guard He sees the play before it happens Yeah a lot of it I think comes out of Just being incredibly competitive But that's where Harden fans Or other fans of other guys I mean look we all know what we're doing I blame the refs for allowing it to evolve At this point where guys are now mad Trey Young gets mad While the guy's about to whistle Like the ref is about to give him the whistle And Trey's already mad at him And then stays mad Because it's like You weren't quick enough With the whistle of the bullshit call That I just earned So I think you're in the right Kyle Lowry Douchebag Everything he does is terrible Chris Paul Hero You want to be your son That's how we kind of sum it up Yeah yeah perfect all right so the sun's gonna win the series right i think we make mistakes all the time playoffs man we really do and you know say the sun's game two and they're up 2-0 the desperation level from milwaukee at home for game three i say this every single year because i just think it's on points you can't fake desperation you can't be as desperate as phoenix will be or excuse me as milwaukee would be like you can say the right things you can do the cool chance win on three suns come run out of the tunnel but you're up 2-0 in human nature it's kind of like when there's a lead like phoenix was totally in control that game i thought they knew they could do whatever they wanted milwaukee changed their defense three or four different times phoenix was actually surprised sometimes i think when they get switches like you could see different like oh my god i can't believe how much time i have to make a decision on what i want to do next and like okay and then you're up 20 you feel like you're in control milwaukee goes small and you're a little you're mailing a little bit like the seven eight minute mark of the game and then milwaukee got at the seven you're like wait this is a game like how is this a game because it hasn't felt like this so i think the same thing applies in series and you know they'll figure out something with lopez you know they didn't bring him back to close this game at all the same thing happened in game one against milano they didn't bring him back basically for the last 15 minutes of game one because i felt like his coverage just wasn't gonna work so i don't know if milwaukee was small again i don't know if they got back in the game because they went smaller phoenix was up 20 so i am very anti we see one game it looks like one team has no chance especially how they match up defensively and then think like that's the series we've all done this for so many years now we've watched so many series i mean how did you feel about the clippers against dallas how did you feel about the clippers against utah and then utah the utah clipper series looked like two completely different years yeah no that was crazy it was a matter of days so even though i like phoenix going in and the guard part of this is just overwhelming and eight minutes turned into a star here a very short amount of time i still think there's a version of yannis being a little bit better i thought they were a little slow in the first half collectively i could see a game where their size and drew holiday stepping up and we're going oh wait a minute maybe milwaukee's things out so i don't think there's this massive massive gap uh although yes i think things going in okay so follow-up question uh well let me just a side note uh that's lean of you to actually be like hey i'm gonna think about this instead of just saying something and then like what we do we're just like sons and four yeah sons and four sons and four that's right for your career do not don't do what i do yeah okay don't be thoughtful that's not the worst possible thing that you can do is just media yes tv producers will be like in the hallway after i do that she'll be like um yeah okay yeah all right yeah we're gonna we'll hit you up after game three yeah yeah could you just say something for um if the suns lose hold it how mad are you going to be when people like me and people like pft and the rest of us say that chris paul is a choker don't ever win the big um publicly you won't see much but privately i'll see you for about 48 hours do you think that if chris paul loses the finals that's a count as a loss for lebron's final records as well wow i hadn't really thought of that wait i think it's only a win it's only a win i mean you say pft he's been so supportive of him this entire time yeah i think that i've kind of turned the corner on this postseason he's doing his best shining delight strength spotlight on his good buddy chris paul so if they win a championship i think that lebron definitely needs a ring yeah i don't think it counts as a loss for him but it definitely counts as a win although i did love when chris kind of went back at him a little yeah i mean lebron it was kind of funny how like almost you know lebron is a very like at this point it's almost political with him if you like him you're like hey great point and if you very side you don't like him it doesn't matter what he says but when he said hey i told everybody like these injuries while he's at home and people just crush him and chris paul's like hey dude we all knew the deal we're like the two most powerful people in the league and we all wanted to come back so like you say what you want but i'm trying to win here which is exactly what everybody else would be doing like lebron was still alive and anybody be saying like you think he would be like yeah these these playoffs have actually been easier to get through of course not so we all we all do what's in our own self-interest especially when you're that big of a deal yeah i i mean it was i know that there's been a lot of injuries but there's also been like guys sit out a lot during the season and also a lot of injuries have been a little bit freakish you know i mean i'm sober what do you say well sober like push back on the whole thing it's like good fun to his boss lebron would you agree and i always felt like this way at espn and like i would say hey if you're going to present me with science that's very conclusive about what rest really means and load management and all these things then you've got me but you can't be dismissive of the television partnership you know business is about partnerships and if you keep telling one of your business partners the one that's paying the biggest habit every single season like hey sorry you guys have another big saturday game but our science says this because i've asked gms like gms that you would think would be all about rest being like you know i've looked at everything and it's honestly still a little inconclusive but i feel like the media side of it's just been in um in this rest mode for years i mean i've talked about this before but i feel like most media members that cover the nba are very much pro rest it's like hey you can't have these guys sit enough and so we have a good turnaround which is a lot to ask both emotionally and physically which i think all of us understand but then you had when you were doing the all nba voting and you were looking at the 20 guys for 15 spots if you were to say oh that guy missed 20 games good luck finding anybody that didn't like jokic and chris paulie there were very few guys that played out the entire season so the best players missed almost a third of this abbreviated season and then we still had all these injuries so sober's basically saying hey look the science is still inconclusive which is another thing that i think we've all learned like hey listen to the medical experts those guys disagree with each other all the time we're just too dumb to understand what their arguments are so i am not sold on really any argument i'm not saying it's had nothing to do with you know the injuries have had nothing to do with the turnaround because you said a lot of the guys they're either freakish injuries or guys with long injury histories already it's just overwhelming and i think it ends up being turned into that talking point where everybody's on the same page when i'm like why are you so convinced that you're right because i'm not convinced about it yeah if you have if you land on somebody else's foot there's no way that you can blame that on like a short turnaround that just happens in basketball if it's like james harden you got a hamstring injury then yeah you could say like okay that could be an overuse injury uh just you know like given his injury might be might not be but you don't really know i don't know what to do about it either i just feel like what the players really want is they just want to be like hey i'd like a day off like it's work sucks sometimes i'd rather not play every single day if i don't have to i think most people would understand that but they're kind of catching it in this like pseudoscience of okay if i miss one out of every seven games i'll be less likely to tear my acl and i think that's total bullshit but at the end of the day too lebron's made all his money like he's made money so i think that the problem i always had with it is like if you're a guy who's working for that next contract and you play way less games and the salary cap goes down and now you're kind of screwed out of that you're like hey wait you don't speak for me i want to play like i want the league i want the cap to go back up i want all these things to happen i'm not the end of my career at the beginning of my career so that's where to me and chris paul kind of said it perfectly because he is the most powerful guy outside of lebron and he does speak for the players right yeah i mean he's ahead of the players right so i mean if you're talking about you know in the first i mean it was such a wild time trying to figure out any of this stuff because the information when we had the first shutdown for four months so then it's like okay when's gonna when's this gonna happen and you're getting a bunch of people here from trainers like these guys are gonna need like 60 days just to ramp up to get back to regular season you know levels and you're thinking okay we could also just not shut it down for four straight months and have to ramp it back up like there's some responsibility on the athlete himself to try to maintain some level conditioning although nothing's going to match the intensity of a real nba game and the nba still found a way to give them like hey guess what guys you got 60 days and i was i was shocked and so then they bring everybody back and i thought it was an unbelievable successful league even pull off what they did with the bubble uh i know we argue about ratings all the time all these different things but it's like we're talking about real extenuating circumstances here so i think the players everybody deserves a ton of credit when there was talk about like not coming back and you know michelle roberts her position is to just whatever the owners and the league says she's going to oppose it by definition of what her role is like we've seen that in baseball and football i mean that's what the job is but i kind of sit there going all right so if all the players are cool losing like three or four million then fine don't do anything like if you're cool with that then okay but my gut would tell me when you put it to a vote it's going to be a lot more because like that's how social media can be so weird because you go wait do these guys actually not want to come back and play and then the vote comes out it wasn't even close it was overwhelming like we don't want to lose all that cash so i feel like the league has done an incredible job the players have done a great job it sucks just like any other fan that all these guys get hurt i don't see anybody get hurt but i'm just not sure based on everything i've read that we have some conclusive evidence that these injuries have happened just because of what we had the past maybe it's true but silver definitely pushed back on it which i was just at least i guess i was even surprised because he's been so pro player as a commissioner yeah he's been pro lebron as a commissioner yeah i think there's a big difference so now he's like he's finally you can imagine life after lebron in the nba right now like you just said if lebron was still alive for a moment i was like what lebron's dead like you can picture a moment when the nba does not have him as you know the mouthpiece for everything that they're doing and at that point like i'm silver's gonna have to find a backbone and be his own guy you're really hammering silver here pfc what's what's the story well he's just a puppet he's just i think everybody knows it silver he's a puppet of either lebron um espn or like the uh nba what about china ryan do you disavow china the entire nation i'd like you to speak on china as well what about it ryan you know i've learned i'm not educated enough on the politics now whose property is the south china sea who has fishing rights good question it's something we debate all the time all the time it's actually how we start every show who has the fishing rights yeah you catch a flounder in the south china sea who gets to eat it that's a really good question yeah yeah i don't i don't know i imagine it's it's a little different than we thought i mean i have are the russians involved somehow yeah you can always say putin yeah that's all okay let me let me ask an easier question do you believe in taiwanese independence i believe in everybody having the best day they possibly can yeah okay yeah live laugh love i think is what will free taiwan you say that yeah live hoodies a couple memes it's like hey i did my part i did an instagram post the other day oh yeah we've seen you unload some instagram pictures i love that i love that by the way hank is woke by the way about he's not here right now we'll speak for him you that angle of you and your jump shot like that jump shot you don't does that go in because you're all you're doing is focusing on jumping high you're way too high in the air yeah people thought i was photoshopped in that one um i jumped it the first time ever age 45 so i mean people say specimen i don't like all myself that because it's kind of a third person thing it's weird but um i got up so high on that when i was deep and i was trying to get like i was you know where i was i was on the border of canada i was up like upstate new york i went through a big drive i was out in the lakes of vermont so i did this whole thing i go you know what i'm gonna do i'm trying to find different places to pick up hoops and then i found the oldest log cabin in the history of the country dft these cabins removed all over the place yep huge log cabin guy i'll tell you easy to heat right i mean those guys had it right heating go on those no problem come towards wood get you through the winter one room center pipe i love good wood burning stove as opposed to fireplace it's hot yes yeah you can use the cook yeah was there actually a basketball in your hand when you were starting to shoot that jump shot or you were just you were just jumping up into the air out on a court i should be a jumper if you told me that you parachuted and that was the end of the parachute that would make more sense no i definitely i was taking a jumper i mean like there's a level of loserdom to my instagram page that only a few appreciate um and then some people like maybe you're just really that big of a loser and you use that as an excuse to go ahead and post this dumb shit um but yeah i i got a photo dump it was gonna be like a photo dump of me just taking jumpers at eight different places that i play pick up hoops but my left foot doesn't even work right now anyway so i'm not even gonna pick up hoops anymore but yeah i was way out i was deep i was i was straight young range when they're trying to get back in the playoffs yeah i love that explanation it's just a photo dump just a bunch of pictures i had on my camera i had to put them on instagram or else my phone was gonna be too full of memory so good thing i was able to upload this picture awesome on a basketball court uh by the way though that's all the people that i expect who appreciate the joke that was the joke it was two pictures it was me thinking oh yeah no i just love it so right yeah it's usually photo dump it's like here's my insane body yeah 10 shots in a row and i was in tulum again yeah yeah um all right let's talk about something different uh who i'll give you an either or who finishes first uh george r martin finishes winds of winter or you finish your first script oh wow good question i finished it's me because i finished strips but it was a lot like espn's like you watch the doors you're like i've made it you're like no no there's a whole nother boss level that's in that other building and you like you gotta get past that and you're like well how do you do it you're like no one most no one does so you're like okay um in writing you're like all right i finished it and then you send it to your agent and then you go now what and they're like good job entourage gets made way better no but i am there's something i'm working on now it's called wicked fast wicked furious and it's a lot of people don't understand the car racing scene in boston as well as i do um and i would say it doesn't one of the critiques of my writing is that the storyline can move a little slower and fast and furious moves fast i mean you know you're in it immediately and so this takes place in boston a bunch of guys street racers in the first 20 minutes or so they don't race because they argue about the best way to get from one side of town to the other um oh this is nice because now you can do maybe the second one could be whether you take a race no whether you take the 405 or not during rush hour yeah but they've already done a bunch of la ones but honestly they were like it's not super diverse and i go well what are you talking about the casting for it and they were like well there's three murphs and i don't think any of them are related and i was like yeah murph one murph two and murph three that's what makes the confusion in the sequel and they're like worry about the sequel you gotta get one made right so i don't know they told me it was a bad idea to just jump on to like i've already made nine of them and i was like exactly that's my point like i have a way better chance of writing one of these wicked fast wicked furious and it tracks well was the other feedback i love this what about this you do an f1 movie i know that you're really formula one and it's like not as much as you guys no no what do you root for i mean who do you are guys which car do you enjoy no we had to ask after ricardo i think a month or so before you guys did and we were told maybe august and then when you guys got him like in a day i now i'm open i'm open yeah i'm just gonna tell you straight up i didn't listen to the episode either well you know what we did we just started calling him out on our show we bullied him we said he won't come on and then everyone started tagging him in everything and they came on it's kind of an american thing to do though i don't really see the sport that way okay you see that european does yeah i don't know i just have more respect for these guys yeah but what you should do is you should do it like an f1 movie fast and furious wicked fast and furious and like fish out of water have it be essentially been affleck and matt damon somehow like they're the fastest street racers in boston and they find themselves on the f1 circuit don't like monaco budapest you know maybe what hey you know the opening scene is i just thought of this when damon listen to a little elliot smith don't put down on if you're in a bad mood and then driving cross country and then affleck pulls in next week 89 may probably not spike as we go west and then that's the opening scene of the next one so you transition goodwill hunting fast yeah and they're racing each other to get to california because you didn't realize the whole time affleck was with minnie driver on the wall yeah instead of having ludicrous in the side so you've got uh king casey from traffic burpees in the side seat and they're just blasting irish folk music you you also have matt damon be in maybe the third he becomes a uh how do you say a principal of the construction principal of the team i don't know you're an f1 guy we're not uh yeah principal yeah yeah i mean matt damon with all his smarts figures out the best aerodynamic car of all time and beats total wolf who's actually secretly a nazi not actually total wolf that's just the you know it's based on fiction so i just go on that yeah and then yeah no that's a good problem but the problem is the fourth installment of wicked fast wicked furious they realized that damon was cheating he's also a nazi and then tom cruise shows up the fifth one takes him a lot yes and they're in monaco there's a big disaster on the course there's a construction movie's out yes yes and you know that nazi's selling movies everyone watches those movies always they do well they always do well there's traffic and affleck's like i've seen this before and he flashes back to the big dig he's like i know how to get through this that's it they start like they start looking at old plans at the big dig like no dude they're like it's exit 23 the waterfront the water i uh i wish we'd written more of this down i guess it's not yeah these are probably our worst ideas another thing you should just write yourself into without we get double check i'm surprised we're talking this much about affleck right now well do you think it was tacky do you think it was tacky to wear the same outfit as jaylo i don't think it was nearly as much of the same outfit as it was the shade room logo being over it making it look like they were wearing sweaters that said t and r yeah and also that's why everybody got on their case the second picture looked like they were looking at a car crash it was weird have you talked about it have you addressed this at all i sent i sent him a text after they broke up saying sorry about the breakup boss and he just hearted it you didn't even tell me this oh yeah that was it that was it the last time you texted yeah the last time we texted him give it his face you know i love it that could get to the point of like well six years ago you were like hey can you guys be our first guest ever on the podcast i was like done no problem two hours later hey nope they're not gonna let me yeah i used to love it they were like you're too important to our brand i was like am i you you yeah okay Thank you.

I was like, well, let's go on with these guys. They're like, no, we're not going to do that. I was like, no one's going to listen. Don't worry about it.

And it's like, now, six years later, you can test A-Rod after breaking up with J-Lo. A joke text. Well, he's not going to get it. I mean, let's not get it.

I don't want this to get back to him. I don't want it to be uncomfortable. If it does, I can handle it. I know how to do it.

You definitely can. You have developed into somebody who can be kind of mean and get away with it. Yes, yes, that's true. Yeah, I mean, this podcast is kind of mean sometimes he gets away with it.

I think the trick is, as long as you're just funnier than you are mean, it always plays. Yeah, and you also need to be mean to yourself. I think Paul Rabel came on the show last week and he was like, you guys have just built a brand where you can just make fun of everybody. He's like, that sucks for me being a guest on your show.

But it's like, I said to him out there, like, it's a perfect example. Like, I've been very mean about the Water Dogs, our team that we own. But it's also natural because I actually fucking hate the Water Dogs. They suck.

They make us look bad. So which one's better? Like, do you want me to throw out a tweet that's clearly an ad or do you want me to talk about it naturally? I happen to think on the lacrosse team to tell you to fuck yourself yet?

No, not publicly. I think lacrosse is the one sport too where it's like, they're just happy to have people talking about them. I don't know. I saw it last week where there was no All-Stars with the Water Dogs and you were like, good.

Let's get two endings, Bob. Either the happy ending where they win or have you seen Marley and me? Yeah. No.

That's kind of like the ultimate ending. We're also considering that. What happens? Was that Bob Marley?

Yeah. No, all the dogs die. But they probably go to heaven. Well, now I'm not going to see it.

Yeah. Speaking of which, why haven't you got a dog been like, I'm taking a step up in my life. I'm starting to get more responsible. It's a great question.

It's been asked a few times. I always say this. I don't want to do that to the dog. The dog might not like the NBA.

He might be a hockey guy. And then you're fine. He's going to just look at me and come up the stairs like, oh, right again? What kind of dog would you get?

You know what's funny is I never was, I've told this story before and it isn't something that does my Q rating any good. Because my dad was a humble carpenter at the beginning, laying brick actually the first few years I was on the job sites with him. He would bring me to every estimate because he felt like if he had this little toe-haired kid come along, he'd have a better chance of closing the deal instead of being like a 6'5 guy with long hair in his pickup truck. So he would show up and I'd hold the tape measure at the other end and all the homeowner always think was the cutest thing ever.

He knew what he was doing. But like estimate, whenever I heard the word estimate after I get picked up at practice or school, I was like, oh, this sucks. I just want to go outside and play wiffle ball. And he'd be like, no, we got to go do an estimate.

And that also meant that I got attacked by like everybody's dog when I first showed up at the house. So for a very long stretch, dogs to me, I was like, oh, another fucking dog is going to jump all over me all the time. And then when I got to college, we had a horribly trained dog in our house that used to eat your food as soon as you left, take your spot. I think I remember one night I was like rifling through the fridge probably super late so I wasn't 100% with it.

And then the dog like hit me and the freezer door was open so I was getting ice too and I hit my head on the freezer door and like knocked myself out in the kitchen. So I've had this horrible, horrible history with dogs. So when people at ESPN would be like, how come you don't get a dog? You're by yourself all the time.

And I was just like, out here at the beaches I don't let you bring the dogs on the beach. That's a big no-no out here. I just, I understand dogs now. I'm open to the idea but I wouldn't do it unless I were 100% into the dog.

That's probably why I'm not married either. Like I'm just like, hey, I'm going to be 100% on this. You know how you put your wife in a kennel is what you're saying when you go to LSU? Well, I can't be gone a lot.

I mean, I've talked to you for a couple days and she's like, I left the toilet bowl open so if you get thirsty, don't worry. Yeah, look, I've got a door, you've got my door dash, right? I'm sorry, Postmates, I don't know who's sponsor, so go ahead. You know, you could have just said lab when I asked you that question.

Yeah. That would have been fine. That's why everybody should hate me. Yeah.

Yeah, but that's why, you know, I'm not going to do the pander tweets. Like, you know, we're always joking about it. Like, you'll look and see, like, oh, this person definitely doesn't believe that but they're going to go with this move today and I just like, there's certain things I feel the same way as a lot of people do but I don't feel like I need to be checked off the box. Like, hey, is Riscilla like, you know, healthy infants?

Oh, I haven't seen a tweet about it yet. Right. All right, well, let's not check them off yet until we see him acknowledge that healthy infants are awesome. So, whatever.

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Try the new cans today, taste the difference and make a difference. All new Stell Blue coffee can lattes now available at StellBlueCoffee.com or subscribe on Amazon for 10% off. Here's more Ryan Russo. So, all right, so my question, so I told you beforehand, I was going to spring it on you, so you don't know what I'm going to say, but you had a line, I think it was like three months ago, that made me laugh so much that I put it down in my notes and it might not even be funny because I don't even remember the context.

But you said, you're giving life advice, you're like, listen, I've been a guy for a really long time now. And I was like, what the fuck does that even mean? And it got me thinking, like Ryan is sitting there being like, look, I got my guy resume. Like you can see it, I graduated guy school in like 1999.

But my question to you is, because I was thinking about it more, I actually think that's like a weird thing. Like when do you become a guy? Because like kids aren't guys. Like even a 19 year old, I don't think is a guy.

Because it's a little bit of maturity, it's a little bit of like life wisdom, it's a little bit of kind of like, hey, you're not a guy until you stop like, maybe trying to hook up with your best friend's girlfriend, like kind of thing. Like that's not a guy move. So when you become a guy and like I think I've done an okay run here over the last 20 years doing this. But I had to be kind of a, you know, like not have it figured out for a really long time.

I had a bartend. I had to have those moments like this isn't gonna work out and then studying for a general contractor's license and then having other moments where like nothing is working out and then being so single-minded it's like literally the only thing you care about while still trying to keep up with your friends and have like a normal life when you can't really have a normal life when you were doing what I was doing in the beginning. I was driving back and forth and living in a hotel room. I think I stayed in a hotel like 200 nights the third year I worked at ESPN because I just was like, like how can you give anyone advice when you don't have any kids you've never been married.

It's like yeah, but everybody's already, most people have done that and if you did it earlier there's not as many life experiences for me to like see a guy emailing and he's like hey, so this is, you know, some guy who's 25 who goes hey, so you know, there's a girl at the gym and she's super flirty with me but she doesn't respond to my texts and then when she sees me she's like oh I'm so sorry I didn't respond to your text but you know blah blah blah and it's like dude it's really simple like people have been on both ends or if you have you know zero game I guess you've never been on the other end of it but like you don't you don't ignore somebody that you're interested in you know and at 25 you'll still have these moments of like wait, what kind of game is being played you're like actually it's a very simple one like she's probably seeing somebody else she likes the attention from you at the gym and if she's dating somebody he's not there so that feels some sort of void for her those interactions you have with her and like you just have to be around long enough and people can listen to this and say yeah obviously idiot like thanks for the doctorate in something really simple but it still feels like so many people miss these signs and there's certain things that will miss too so I guess again it's a long-winded answer of it but I'd have to have all those ups and downs and different experiences and dating is obviously part of it too where you're like okay well I've already had this happen to me or I did this to somebody so I know exactly so that's my answer being a guy and I'd say it probably unfortunately it's gone a little bit longer but it probably kicked in in the mid-20s How does it work out now if you do something that's decidedly un-guy do you have to are you guy enough to look yourself in the mirror and check your guy item or do you need another guy like a buddy system to be like hey Ryan that's not a guy pull you over slap you in the face what are you doing to your guy the only person checking on me is me so you know the isolation people my friends were joking that you were the most built for this of anyone we know going through it all but I'm harder on myself than anybody else could possibly be so I try to keep myself in check but you know whatever it's weird because I mean we're getting a little deeper here but I can think about my career and all the stuff I've accomplished and having a nice house and all the stuff which seemed impossible and everyone would bet against 20 years ago but then sometimes I'll think like was I just really successful but like I still haven't even come close to figuring it out do I think I have it completely figured out and everything's going to be nice and easy now the rest of the way or are I constantly trying to make things really hard on myself I can do it and most of my friends are like why can't you just chill the fuck out and have a really successful podcast and a really nice life as you go into your 50s I'm like well I also don't know if I want to be giving out dating advice to college kids when I'm 55 years old on a podcast okay I mean that just signaled to me is when you figure out the writing part we are going to see Ryan Russillo trying to make an NBA team with that sick jumper you're like I need another challenge here we go I want to see you compete for an EGOT but not necessarily like the actual awards I just want you to have gotten paid for something in all those categories that's your personal EGOT Grammy's going to be tough spoken word narrate your own book I've actually been working on some of my spoken word really give me a sample seasons there's four why only four who is in charge of the seasons not you fall ahead of spring or behind in which order are the four summer I'm here for it that was beautiful that was fucking beautiful alright now we're going to get that spoken word because it was recorded on our show thank you think about what I just said though don't let the moment just pass by no no I do agree with you though you're like isn't it crazy we've only had four though with all the innovation yeah yeah well I mean LA does have one it gets a little chilly here in the winter in Manhattan Beach like 60 there's a 50 degree night oh my god Jesus Christ you okay oh man can you leave the water dripping in case the pipes froze your car on you left the car on didn't you there's nothing well it's not always funny because a bunch of bad shit happens but when you have those security camera community message boards that's the most unforgiving interaction in the human race like and again granted it was 4th of July and somebody would be like is anyone here at gunshots I'm over in Hawthorne and you're like it's the 4th of July but somebody would just be like hey here's a video of a person breaking into my car at 3am it's like why don't you leave your fucking doors open moron you're like okay my kids toys were stolen in my baby seat it's like should have let the doors unlock the reason I bring that up is that if it gets down to 50 people are like hey does anyone have firewood yep this is a problem yes we're going to Mexico Shellbacks is doing a hoodie donation fundraiser right now so just go outside and donate whatever it's going to get down to 49 next week I love that part it's a great part can I ask you a question while we're on the arts yeah do we have like 3-4 more minutes we have an interview with Toto Wolfe next do you want us to give you Daniel Ricciardo's number he's out here in LA I do think we would hit it oh that makes it worse I know but I think I may have the inside track no pun intended to F1 in Texas but now when I say it to you you guys would be like set up a merch tent there we're actually both driving I wish more people understood because I don't even like making fun of Haas after watching the TV show because I feel bad for the owner being like this sucks but like they had a 17-18 position I was like not a bad weekend for Haas I wish more people could understand Haas jokes alright let me if you guys have to run then let me just ask you this and then you can ask whatever why do you hate Yellowstone so much I don't hate Yellowstone I actually don't hate it that much at all I love season 1 I thought season 2 was pretty good but then season 3 I was watching for the scenery because every episode was like Rip I need you to beat the hell out of this guy and Rip would go beat up somebody and then Cole Hauser would have like sex with his wife but they'd start crying before they had sex then they'd have sex and Cole would leave and that was every show but the background the scenery was incredible and Kevin Costner would be like grandson go get a cookie and that's like the entire that's every episode oh and then somebody dies someone always dies and it was just like that repeated one right after the other but I still liked it I still watched it because I was like this show can't become good again at some point but it got a little repetitive alright that's fair because Sharon in the right for it I mean he's Alzheimer Wind River Hell or High Water and then Sicario we had the producer Sicario had to ring him and say we need to change the end of this and Taylor was like nah I don't want to do that but I would love a challenge of trying to speak in full like full Yellowstone in a pirate podcast see how long we could go because you'd just be like hey Rip want to head into town and kill some people and then Rip just turns and goes like people have been killing this town for decades you know like everything has like a meaning to it there's another layer and it's about saving that area of the country the true nature of a man can be told from how clean this horse is men are a lot like fence posts you gotta dig them out of the shit instead of the straight every now and then two kids has killed my TV watching ability so I apologize I'll catch up it's a good watch it is I literally don't have hours left in the day so I will try though if for nothing else just the scenery like the backgrounds in every scene even like in those later episodes I would still watch everyone because there are mountains there you know what's really good what? The Wire oh fuck I'm going to catch up to that too who did it? Sopranos I'm going to watch that soon as well it's on my list you're kidding right yes we spoiled the whole fucking thing because Hank was on episode 2 or no season 2 and we just started he told us he was on season 2 and we just spent the next like actually it's still ongoing it's like 2 years ongoing we just like to remind him like every 3 months hey Tony kills Christopher hold his nose yeah I don't know I mean obviously you guys are going to do that to him but if you're that far behind it right it's like it's been 15 years or whatever like I remember watching it live in college the last episode so it was 2007 I think yeah and I thought my cable went out like everyone else in America yeah I was in a hotel room oh it's probably 200 in a year layup joke alright well Ryan thank you Suns in 4 was your prediction no Suns in 6 Suns in 6 ok and don't worry if the Suns blow it we will be nice to Chris Paul no you won't no we won't that's the game and guess what if the Suns do win we're the biggest Chris Paul fans in the world so you really can't win in any way with us I'm in life just being friends with you guys there it is I love it there it is get a dog he could have just said like chihuahua too big man little dog here's a story about my father here's a story about how my father used me yeah he sounded like you loved him when you were in the truck getting fucking berated iron sharpens iron if you want it's no coincidence that you were traumatized in Ford yeah exactly a lot of miles there though a lot of good memories was that the car that Kenny got shot in that was a Cadillac that was a Cadillac I forget because it's been a while since Ravel tweeted out in 8K wait you thought JFK got shot and he was riding in the back of the pickup truck no no no Ford Converber i don't know mustang fuck it no i knew he wasn't gonna pick up you should just implant that memory in people's brains you know he was riding f-150 if he's riding a chevy it's not safe yeah it would have been fine no president no president has ever been assassinated in a chevy i actually tell my son that like don't ride in the back of a truck it's not safe that's how jfk got caught growing up man jfk stuff like that was crazy i was thinking about the other day but all of you no but it was prior to the jfk movie coming out yeah but no this is there are always little reminders whether it's you me long talking pft usually i we only talk history i sent something recently that i thought he's really gonna enjoy reading this uh general customer book yep and there was a guy in his army he used to drive or he would send love letters to his wife and he would draw pictures of his erect penis in the letters right so these guys researching his story as one of the guys in this army in the seventh gallery like found correspondence between this guy in the army and his wife and they're like yeah he's pretty his wife i just don't i don't understand how you verify that it was erect that's making a pretty big 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welcome on a very special guest it is nba can we say superstar you want to be a superstar are you former superstar gonna be a superstar where you at in your superstar not superstar all right andre drummond he's joining us uh he's got nft collection launching on friday july 9th on rareable four nfts a mix of auction items and first come first serve so uh go check it out it will be awesome um and also get an opportunity to play 2k with you are you good at video games i'm pretty good i'm pretty good i don't know about that do you remember like a couple years ago when carnell jones was playing against a kid i think it was a kid in the hospital he beat him like 95 to 10 madden yeah yeah but that's not cool at all so you would take it easy no i'm definitely gonna play but uh when it's time to win i'ma win okay um all right so it's great to have you on uh obviously your season didn't end the way you wanted to end how are you doing right now are you like what does that look like right after the season ends do you get a couple weeks to just hang out and party or are you back already in the gym shooting and getting ready i'm already back in the gym now uh it took me like two three weeks off just to chill but you know i didn't really uh have that i really i didn't play much in the gym i started for about two months when i was in cleveland so i want to keep my body going so i'm still working on my body and you know continue my work what are you working on right now is there something like i've always wondered about NBA players who play at a superstar level like yourself if you're already really good at your job how do you decide what you're gonna do different in the offseason it's more so just polishing things not even adding anything like i feel like some guys you know add different elements to the game but i think for me i'm pretty consistent with my job is i know what it's asked of me so i have a specific regimen that i just do to just continue to keep my body going and you know try to get as strong as i can as fast as i can as big as i can you know throughout the year uh how much are we working on free throw shooting well if you have noticed i'm shooting at least 70 right now so i think that's something i've conquered already yeah you have done a lot better and we've talked to guys and it's uh i mean what was it earlier in your career was it just mental like how what was what were you able to do to get over that hump and be like hey here i am feeling consistent because obviously you see yannis in the finals right now he's struggling like what would you give a tip for yannis if you could i know for me personally i know for me personally it's just a mental thing for me um you know i have some people tell me different ways to shoot it and you know i listen to some people mentally it throws you off when you get to the line and be like damn this guy told me this somebody told me this and you know that's the point where you know i got to do what's best for me so i found a routine and tried it the same way for the entire summer and it's been my routine ever since i noticed that uh you picked up on what we're trying to do which is like an old school media tip like get you to say something so the headline is then Andre Drummond has uh free throw tips for yannis yes and then it looks bad on you so let me rephrase that real quick if there's a hypothetical uh league mvp plays a big man position very strong takes 11-12 seconds to shoot each free throw but they're struggling at the line how would you specifically tell that person to improve again not yannis good question great question not yannis not yannis something for i love your ability to rebound i always think that people who are really sick at rebounding don't get as much shine as they should sometimes when you have a 20 rebound game are you is that like in the zone same as like when a shooter gets hot would you consider yourself to be in the zone yeah when i'm trying to rebound game it's uh active night for me i mean i'm going after every rebound and you know it's just one of those feel good nights when you see that number up there because not so many people are able to do that can you tell like if you're having one of those nights can you tell where the miss is going to go before the shot even remotely comes close to the basket i mean i could do that normally but you know just like when you're in that zone it's just like everything goes right you remember like when dennis robin was explaining how he was picking up rebounds like over here over there over there from uh was that the michael jordan documentary can you tell me one thing as like somebody who's really good at rebounding that the average person might play pickup basketball might not know about where to expect the ball to go well it depends on where the shot is taken like if somebody shoots a shot in the left corner you know more times than i'm going to either overshoot or bounce off the rim towards you so i'll be on the right side of the rim or if you shoot in the middle just in the middle of the rim you got either way to go so it's really just knowing where the ball's coming from um i am a big fan of jim calhoun you played for him at uconn his last year uh do you have any good jim calhoun stories i just like his press conferences because uh jim calhoun never gave a fuck and he always just told people exactly what was on his mind so uh was he like that you know in practice games like in private settings was he just like that like jim calhoun i'm gonna tell you exactly what i'm thinking uh yeah he never held his tongue i mean funny story about him i remember we're playing ruckers he'll probably kill me telling the story but uh i think i dribbled the ball close to close and turned it over and he calls the timeout so i'm running to the timeout he grabs me by my jersey that throws uppercuts in my stomach slaps me in the face so sit down it works right you put me in two possessions later so you ready to play now so wait so let's let's let's like expand on this because we see it all the time with izzo izzo will grab a player and you'll see guys like jayvon green be like hey listen that's how izzo coaches like that's all love yeah so from like the twitter like media perspective what do people get wrong when they see something like that like that that it's totally we see it and people overreact when it's like the players who play for the guy are like no that's not how it goes so i think i think for me it's just the relationship you have with that coach i mean i don't think he just does it to anybody but if you have a relationship with your coach where he knows how to get the best out of you what to do to wake you up i don't think it's anything wrong with that yeah yeah no i mean i agree i always kind of like when those things happen because you do see a bunch of like media dorks be like how could he and then you see all of the former players be like i know how he could because we fucking love him and we'll die for him exactly yeah um i'm just gonna read you a tweet uh you can put it through the andre drummond translator and tell me what this hypothetical player might have meant by this lol remember kids control what you can control and let the rest take care of itself prayer hands that was sent before uh oh is it actually these playoffs uh before game six of later sons so what would that person have meant by that tweet i think it's self-explanatory i mean it depends on whatever you're going through whatever aspect it can be whatever be too high be too low yeah so maybe when you're in the game be ready ready to go but you can also be mad that maybe you're not in the game enough well i feel like for anybody it depends on what they're going through yeah basketball do you feel um soft because an avocado took you down yeah a little bit i was kind of it's kind of depressing because avocado took me out explain that story about avocado legitimately like kept you out of a gate yeah for like four games um we were in mexico city uh i went out to dinner with uh some of my friends one of my friends happens to be spanish i told them to go to the restaurant so we get there and i said whatever you do just make sure there's no avocado on my food i said you translate it translate that to them he's like yeah i got you so he tells her i ordered my food that's before she leaves i pulled her by her shirt hold on marty tell her again no avocados cool thumbs up food comes out my bowl is green so i got some pizza so my bowl is green i'm looking at it i said um what's this in my bowl she's like oh no you're good no avocado avocado i said are you sure i said marty ask her please is there avocado over there so she says no i said all right whatever so i'm eating i think maybe like 10 15 minutes go by i'm almost done and i'm just having a conversation my throat starts to itch you know my body started to itch a little bit so i looked down at my plate i'm always a big ass strip of avocado with the bottom of the ceviche bowl oh so i didn't know how bad my house was my first time had a bad like reaction to it so i didn't know how bad it was going to get so i'm like all right my throat's itching i'm like i'm getting stuffy whatever so i got to like a bandage or whatever so i go back to the hotel my eyes like itching really bad like to the point where i can't even keep it open so i was like i'm going to sleep so i go to bed i get up the next morning only one eye opened oh shit so so you can imagine like yo like what the hell's going on right i'm like trying to open my like trying to pry my open it's like glued shut so i got i went to the bathroom i got one top of my eye so when i finally get to see it it's just bloodshot red there's a bunch of yellow mucas coming out of it like it's disgusting so i tell my team i said hey uh i don't know what's going on with me but my eyes aren't opening so i go see a doctor gave me some eye drops and i played but like i only played one eye like i rarely could see my left eye like it was like almost shut if you watch that game mexico city and yeah after that game i couldn't play again my eyes started burning it kept getting crusty so fuck an avocado injury is a hell of an injury how many how many rims could you see when you just had one eye working oh that is a good one you are good when you saw that uh that press conference it was funny right we can all admit it was it was a very funny thing to happen because the end of the game was so i mean spectacular he played a hell of a game but then he gives that comment and it's just that's one of the funniest things i've ever seen you know i'm not in an interview with that man that's what he thought was appropriate to say so he said it um all right so i have to bring up the uh night i know you've fixed your free throw shooting but you did have a night that you missed uh 23 what what happened after that like what did you say you go into the locker room after like hey guys don't worry i got this like i'm gonna shoot some shots after the game like it was just that was totally random like what did you did anyone look at you like i would imagine it's it's gotta be a bad feeling right i think we won that game actually i don't think it was much that was said but everybody knew in the locker room what each other was thinking like you gotta figure this shit out it's a boy we can't play like this you gotta eventually you're gonna have to because i do remember too i think it happened against the bulls i was watching the game you went double airball in uh two free throws so yeah but you figured out so we can laugh about this now right we can laugh about it now it's not a sensitive subject anymore yes at one point it was sensitive now you're good um it would be funny if you did nft of the double airball though you know what i might do that you should actually because i know you i said at the beginning you're doing uh what is you got four nfts maybe add two more airball one airball two on the rare double airball free throw trip that one might actually be more expensive yeah i would buy that one yeah there's definitely i might do that um what was it like we're so we're like best friends with like griffin no big deal uh yeah what was it like playing with him like we're i mean we're legitimately like he's our best friend i love him like how much you love him though like we love him more i think we're on the same scale really do you have his phone number not you yeah yeah so you think you pin up a face time can i call him yeah maybe don't miss his favorite podcasters you go first all right let's see uh-oh is it ringing uh-oh i think it's the answer to you right if he answered me and not you that's gonna be bad he's not hitting the ignore button he's letting it ring out come on blake come on man oh no imagine being blake and then getting that face and then getting he's gotta know something's up all right go i guess pretty quick man if he answers this this is gonna be bad for you he's gonna answer for all right fuck i think he's probably doing something cool because he's a cool guy he's coming on a boat somewhere with his fucking shirt off looking awesome all right tell us your best blake griffin story though best blake griffin story i think going to his comedy comedy show stand-up did he make all his teammates go and was like hey you guys legally have to come and laugh no i come here and make him laugh at my jokes no he was actually really good i think some of my favorite memories of playing with him is going to that and seeing him in that light that everybody was like is you know an aggressive player so to go see him in like a funny setting comedy setting was amazing for me he is he is more like we always say like there's athlete funny and like there's real funny blake griffin's real funny he's hilarious right yeah were you ever like hey it's hilarious how you never dunk anymore yeah he couldn't stop dunking yeah all of a sudden he's not gonna get in the playoffs yeah interesting suspect uh i got a question for you about a very specific skill that you have you're really good at shooting full court shots you might be you might be the staff curry of the full court heave is that something that you practice or does that just come naturally no i think that's natural i mean it's just a strength i don't really have to try if i just put it up there do you uh do you aim for a bank shot or do you just aim at the basket yourself i aim at the back of the rim if we were to give you let's say 100 shots in a gym and you have to take it from the other free throw line do you think your free throw percentage will be higher on that or your free throw percentage higher in like your second year from the actual free throw line that's a good question thank you really good question he's doing the math right now yeah he is he's trying to figure it out i think it'd be even hey why do you wear only one leg sleeve that bothers me does it yeah big time it's a stupid look i'm serious like it is like if you're gonna do if you're gonna do the leggings do both i don't want to why i want one leg hold it one it doesn't matter which one does it always have to be the same really so you do alternate sometimes i want one on the right one time another one on the left side really so it just makes no sense you're just doing it to do it yeah so look it's a bad look i'm just from one guy to another i'm just telling you change that look what about the uh shooting sleeve you ever wear a shooting sleeve only my words yeah does that actually help i've always wanted about compression sleeves oh not really only if you follow me well in that case yeah it doesn't work to like protect you against floor burn or whatever to like protect you against floor burn or whatever on your elbow right no it just looks like you guys i think sometimes work in the school i mean some guys wear for compression and some people wear with the pads uh are you still on a beer day diet uh no but i just had one a minute ago though okay so wait what was the beer day diet uh you know something i want to try out i want to cut out carbs for a little bit and that's what i came up with so you just did one beer every day no matter what yep but that's a car So you want to cut out carbs within... Bad carbs.

Got it. That's actually a good point. Beer is good carbs. Yes.

Okay. Actually, you should be a scientist. You should be a nutritionist. Thank you, man.

That's why I'm on. Imagine just sitting down and being like, all right, so here's what we're going to do. No more pizza, but you're going to just drink beer every day. Every day.

What was the earliest beer you ever had during the Beer Day Diet? That's a good question. You ever breakfast beer? Do a beer real?

Put it right into the cornflakes? 9 a.m. Yeah. If you have a beer for breakfast, the rest of your day, it just flies right by.

Why'd you tell me about this? Tell us what's going through your mind right now. Are you like, wow, these guys are wildly disrespectful? No, not at all.

It's just a different interview. Yeah, a lot. Very different. I wasn't expecting this.

I came in here blind, so. Okay, now that's your guy Mike's fault. He should have known. Yeah, he didn't do a good job of telling me what was going on, but I'm enjoying myself.

He literally watched us go to Maury Povich and spit water everywhere and do like, suck it, Triple H, suck it, like when he was a producer there. So that is his fault. Well, I'm enjoying myself. Okay, all right.

That's all we care about. Like guys talking, one guy talking to another, like, okay, we're done with all the weird hard questions and then Frank Vogel got hired there and he's like, you're back to 15 minutes ago. I think he's left the screen. That would actually be very funny, just a prank.

He's like, hey, I'd be here, huh? Like, guess what? We're not going to be using you. How about we just, let's just say the names of just random cities in the United States and you just give us your reaction.

Yeah, okay. Charlotte. Okay, that was a nod. Utah.

Oh, okay. New York City, the Big Apple. Ooh, that was a emphatic. That was a hmm.

Dallas. Oh, oh, yeah, Luca. You like Luca? Oh, two thumbs up, two thumbs up on Luca.

Los Angeles. Clippers. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Oh, interesting. No disavow. He's weighing it out with his hands. Portland.

Dame's not there, though. No. Cleveland. Oh, you're going to say yes to everything if you just said yes to me.

Detroit. Detroit's your favorite. He's coming home. Your agent must love you.

Your agent must be like, this guy gets it. Unlike the hockey players, he'll be like, yeah, I've already told my agent, I'm going to resign here, I don't care about money, so just get the deal done. You're like, anywhere is fine. Except the dame-less Portland, you're in for everything.

Yeah. That's it. That's it. So we're going to actually just the eyeball emoji.

Isn't that funny how you can tweet literally anything, and there will be six different articles that will come out analyzing what your tweet can mean? It's crazy. We did that with Blake three or four years ago. He just tweeted out the eyeball emoji.

Then the next day the show came out, and we were at the moment where it's like, hey, just tweet out the eyeball emoji. And everyone freaked out because NBA Twitter's weird. What do you think about NBA Twitter and the obsession with all the storylines? Do you think it's weird?

Do you think it's lame? I think it's funny. The other day, the viral thing that's going on now about how I said, tell you how folks play me if you want to see me play better. Yeah.

I mean, it's funny. When I did that comment, I'm like, this is going to start. So I'm sure I called Mike and said, look what I just did. He's like, all right, well, this is good.

I said, I know. I was like, I know. I have people's attention now, so I was capitalized on this. I kept going.

I went to Twitter. It started right there. So then I was like, all right, well, while I got your attention, I dropped an NFT on Friday. I'll go check that out.

And, you know, the whole narrative changed. I love it. That's the way to do it. You also did when Skip Bayless said Kareem Abdul Drummond.

You retweeted that. Yeah. Merch coming soon. Really?

I might buy one of those. Do you like that nickname better or do you like being called the Big Penguin? What? You know that the Big Penguin is your nickname.

Yeah, I've heard that. Why? I guess people found out my favorite animal is a penguin and put it in front of it. Wait, that's, you pretended like, what?

Why would that ever happen? Your favorite animal is a penguin? It is. That's why.

It should also be the highest compliment, right? If you love penguins. I don't think you love penguins as much as you think that you do. It sounds like you're kind of a fraud penguin.

Did you cry when the gay penguins got married in New York? I don't think I answered that question. Yeah, no, I mean, it was a beautiful one. It was beautiful.

That also might have been a pun in Indiana, now that I think about it. But you actually love, what's your favorite thing about a penguin? I just like them. I have kids.

They watch Happy Feet, so. Okay, okay. I still don't think you're a big penguin fan. That's a personal choice.

Yeah, no, but I'm looking at you right now and I'm like, this guy, you wouldn't even, what is it, what's the difference penguins is? King penguin? Emperor penguin. Pittsburgh penguin.

Yup. That's not it. Those are the two kinds. That's all we got.

Oh, Youngstown State penguins. That's right. Pete, right? Pete the penguin.

Penguin in Youngstown State. I'm looking at a picture. It looks like at one time you were a giant penguin fan. I'm seeing a picture here of you with your arms around about a dozen penguins.

You've got penguin socks on. But it sounds like you've kind of had a falling out. A falling out, really. It does.

Yeah, that's a good one. If you love penguins so much, you wouldn't take a private jet, right? Because that's bad for global warming. No, I'm taking that plane.

Oh, okay. So you don't like penguins. Maybe do it in person when you come out here to talk with the Nets. I'll show my head for that, too.

Don't see how I mean. Wow. I like it. I like it.

All right. Well, thanks, man. We really appreciate it. Cheers, guys.

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