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Oct 23, 2025 1 hr 25 min

S04 E04 Coming out twice, with Umbra Moon

from Less Surface Level Hosted by Tessa Lloyd

Today I sit down with the brilliant queer, non-binary and talented musician, Umbra Moon. We get to hear more of their behind the scenes, including two coming out stories, their run in with acrylic nails, how they got their name, and why masc vs. femme energy gets treated so differently. We talk about what it means to grow up queer and non-binary, to find language for who you are, and to let that truth seep into your art. There are moments about care and creativity, about being misunderstood and learning to reconnect, about the songs that hold pain and the kind of transformation that follows. It’s a conversation on authenticity, self-acceptance, and how queerness can expand the way we understand love, connection, and expression. To find out more about Umbra: https://www.instagram.com/umbramoon/ or listen to their incredible music: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LGzCu9GEMkE6pUzdiOIZG?si=H913UuqOSryUK2P0ThaIfg

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