S05-E01-We're Back!

See Eric and Beau's contact information at the end of these Episode Notes.NOTES:SummaryEric and Beau discuss adult students' learning experiences with audiation, particularly those who find Beau through his YouTube channel. They explored how adults approach music theory versus practical application, with many students struggling to connect theoretical concepts to actual improvisation. Beau shared insights about teaching jazz improvisation, emphasizing the importance of establishing context before practicing and the value of learning licks as a way to build vocabulary. They discussed the challenges of adult learners wanting immediate results and the need to manage expectations about the time required to develop audiation skills. The conversation highlighted how pre-screened students coming to Beau with a clear understanding of audiation has improved his teaching effectiveness, though he still faces the challenge of helping students connect theory to practice.Ear Training and Audiation InsightsBeau discussed his experience teaching ear training and audiation through YouTube, noting that about 50% of his students seek ear training specifically, while others focus on piano or guitar. He observed that students are often already familiar with audiation before their first lesson, which has improved his ability to help them practice effectively. Beau shared a transformative case study of a student who gained a deeper understanding of audiation and improvisation through singing tonal patterns and root melodies, highlighting the effectiveness of his approach.Audiation Challenges in Adult LearnersBeau and Eric discussed their experiences with teaching audiation and the challenges adults face in learning to audiate. They noted that adults often struggle with improvisation, and patience compared to younger learners because they often turn things into theoretical concepts. Beau shared his method of establishing resting tones and Eric mentioned the benefits of high-intensity exposure to music for improving audiation skills. They also discussed the importance of context and repetition in learning to audiate.Adult Music Learning ChallengesBeau and Eric discussed the challenges adults face in learning music, particularly the struggle between theoretical understanding and audiation. They explored how adults often have a strong desire to grasp theoretical concepts before developing the necessary audiation skills, which can lead to difficulties in applying music theory in practical situations. The conversation highlighted the importance of linking theoretical understanding to audiation and the need for a balanced approach in music education.Jazz Improvisation Learning StrategiesBeau and Eric discussed the importance of learning jazz improvisation through listening and memorization of licks rather than trying to reverse-engineer solos or rely solely on theoretical understanding. They emphasized that learning from real players and studying different eras of jazz, such as pre-bebop and bebop, is crucial for developing proper phrasing and sound. Eric and Beau agreed that while learning licks can be an audiational practice, it is essential to build a vocabulary before overthinking and to focus on learning lines native to the desired genre.Harmonic Learning and Tonal PatternsBeau and Eric discussed the importance of learning tunes and incorporating tonal patterns into chord progressions for musical development. They emphasized that students, especially adults, often struggle with learning melodies and need a structured approach to practice. Eric highlighted the significance of understanding harmonic functions through tonal patterns, while Beau noted the benefits of formalizing practice with specific repertoire and auditioning techniques. They agreed that Harmonic Learning Sequence can provide a grounding foundation before introducing tonal patterns, and that students benefit from seeing patterns applied in a practical context.Aural Learning in Music EducationBeau and Eric discussed the importance of teaching music through aural learning and audiation, emphasizing the need to simplify processes for students, especially adults who may overcomplicate their learning. They highlighted the effectiveness of using licks and patterns to build vocabulary and the importance of establishing context before practicing complex musical concepts. They also touched on the challenges of explaining audiation to parents and the need for patience in the learning process, as it can take years to master.Hosts:Eric Rasmussen, PhD in Music Education, Temple University. Three-year student of Dr. Edwin Gordon. Chair, Early Childhood Music, Peabody Preparatory, Johns Hopkins University Author of Harmonic Learning Sequence curriculum:Dr. Eric's Book of Songs and Chants including Harmonic Learning Sequence. See Dr. Eric's course schedule and register here.Email Dr. Eric: [email protected] Taillefer - Guitarist (jazz and classical), music educator, intellectual https://www.youtube.com/@beautaillefermusichttps://www.beautaillefer.caEmail Beau: [email protected]