S08 Ep20: Toot Uncommon

Hi, listeners. This is Samantha. Before we start the show, I wanted to pop in and let you know that we recorded this the day before the 2024 U.S. general election. So if you're wondering why we don't address it, it's because when we recorded, we were still in a blissful state of ignorance. Anyway, I hope this episode brings you some enjoyment today. Thanks for being here. Keep working. All right, friends and enemies, gather around. It's time for somehow a new episode of Perhaps It's You, your very favorite Unsolved Mysteries rewatch podcast. We used to do this every week. Sometimes we would do multiple episodes a day.

I know. That was the true miracle. Anyway, just appreciate that that happened because it's never going to happen again. I wanted to start off the show by sending out a get well soon to our resident librarian, Megan, who just had skin cancer removed from her nose. So get well soon, Megan. She's going to be fine, but that's, you know, no fun. I'm sure she would like me to remind everybody to wear a sunscreen, wear a hat. And get your skin checked once a year. It sucks, but you have to get naked and someone has to look at your whole body. But you should do it once a year.

If you see something weird, she identified this skin cancer herself. And it was literally one tiny dot. And she went, that didn't used to be there. That's a level of awareness that a lot of people have. I have gone in for skin checks once a year for like a decade because I'm pretty much translucent. So it seems like in my best interest. And they almost always have to remove something. And it's always something very small that I never would have guessed could be a potential problem.

But it's always good to have that, you know, get checked and have them removed versus letting it go and potentially turn into a bigger issue. Yeah. Yeah. You're welcome, everyone. The government doesn't even pay us to tell you to take care of yourself. So what a stupid, stupid country we live in. Anyway, we had a couple spooky season things that we did on Patreon's dime that I wanted to make sure that we discussed before we, you know, move on since Halloween's over.

We did go back to the Minnesota Zoo for their Jack-o'-lantern spectacular. Love that thing. Love it. We are diehard devotees of the Jack-o'-lantern spectacular. This year the theme was travel. Wanderlust, I believe. Yeah, that theme is real thin. The themes are nebulous. Look, the pumpkins rot after like three days. So the sooner you go, the more it makes sense. As you go through the month, I think it makes less sense. But whatever.

i mean i i kind of realize they want some like something in a lot of categories so that you know it's crowd pleasing right there's something a little something for everyone and i'm probably the only person walking around going i'm not really sure how this fits the theme like i might be listeners this is probably the first you've heard of it but i might be a little too intense sometimes and you think there's people who go and don't even realize there is a theme probably yes it's not like mostly everybody it's not like very apparent the theme or that it changes every year we might be the only people even know we're we are paying a little too much attention instead of just going oh pumpkins um being a you know unwell person I went twice this year well really okay so I had plans already to go with a friend of the pod Lizette I don't know if she's listening hi Lizette and so I wasn't gonna go with you obviously I was gonna blow you off and show Lizette around but then I ended up with a free evening when you happened to be going so I went with you also so it all worked out kind of and what I learned from going twice even though it was twice in one week is that yeah the pumpkins because like squirrels are eating them and shit because they're outside is that they have to replace those things every three to five days so if you keep going you will see different jack-o-lanterns moral of the story is you should go every three days

Yes, exactly. To see the maximum amount of jack-o'-lanterns. If you're in Minnesota and you haven't gone before, they've really upped their game. There was more decorations, more stuff for kids. They had themed drinks and little souvenir cups. It's always a lovely time, but I thought they're really stepping it up this year. I want to say it's $18. I think it's a good value for the money. It's a very enchanting evening. It's a very immersive experience. We always have so much fun.

And I have yet to go to the zoo for literally anything else. I've yet to see one animal at the zoo. But I always go see this pumpkin thing and I love it every time. There's apparently something new this year that we did go to called the Pumpkin Trail, which is sort of similar, sort of not. Maybe next year we'll check that out. We should check that out next year. It looked cool as well. Yeah, I'm already making my list of what we got to do next year.

The other thing that we did is we didn't have a spooky train day this year because the day the train museums were hosting their events conflicted with something else. But we did ride something called the Pumpkin Express. Which is a spooky train day. I don't know what is. Yes. Which is set up through the Minnesota Transportation Museum, obviously. You know, we're pretty much celebrities there. And no, we're not. They were really impressed that once we came wearing their own sweatshirts. Don't know why that was so impressive. Though Samantha did make stickers last year. So that kind of was impressive. That impressed a volunteer as well.

she never emailed me like she said she was going to but whatever she clearly really wanted to take advantage of uh samantha owning a circuit machine but then yeah never followed up so that's her loss um yeah so we rode the pumpkin express which is a train that goes from What was the name of that town? It goes from Osceola. Yeah. To Dress? Dresser. Dresser. Dresser. Wisconsin. Two towns you've probably never fucking heard of. So it's not even in Minnesota, which is whatever. It's like right over the border. And they just set up like a little fall festival in Dresser by like the train station. So there was a petting zoo. There was a little place where you could buy a pumpkin. There was just a woman playing the keyboard. Not Halloween music, mind you. She was just playing like every song she knew. So like Cry Me a River and stuff.

I don't know. It really added to the scene, in my opinion. There was vendors selling bullshit. There was food vendors. There was face painting. I actually thought it would be very funny to get a little ghost painted on my face. But the problem was, was I was waiting in line to get my face painted. Every child assumes that I was the parent of a child in line. I mean, naturally. Most people there were children. We're parents of children. I'm not sure there were many other, if any.

Just adults. So basically what I'm saying is children kept cutting in front of me to get their faces painted. And I didn't have- Liz didn't have it in her to like elbow a child out of the way. Go back in the line, kid. I need my ghost. To get your face painted by like two high school girls. Yeah, that were like probably the children of volunteers that got forced into doing this.

so sadly i don't have a picture for the five of me with a little ghost painted on my face which i thought would have been really funny what we do have a picture of is me wearing the t-shirt we bought that was clearly made by some volunteer using canva clip art and the two i'm gonna assume one because it was a train museum but the two because the design of the shirt that was made by a man because there's two little pumpkins that when you put them on align exactly over your titties like exactly yeah so we bought these shirts that say i wrote the pumpkin express i mean obviously we did but only to find out we can't really wear those anywhere It's a little too suggestive. I didn't quite, obviously I just threw mine on because I was that excited to wear it. And then it didn't really even give it a second thought until Liz told me that. Well, I worked in the post office and I like caught a reflection of myself and I was like, that ain't right. I can't be wearing this around. So now we have those always to remember our beautiful day riding the pump in your dress. We did one of those pump car things, which I don't know if you don't know what that is. You're going to have to Google it. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like for people who are maintaining the track, you just like make it run. It's been a while since I've watched Fievel Goes West, but I feel like.

There's probably a pump car in it. Yeah, yeah, that seems about right. So just think about that, if that helps you. So we did that, and the teenage volunteer asked if we had been railway workers in our past lives because we were so good. He was really working the crowd. Yeah, so thanks to him. I did try to get a picture of him with the pump car for Instagram, and he was like, absolutely not.

I just have a picture just of a pump car by itself. We rode some sort of very like tiny little train that was used to maintain the track. I don't even know what that's called. That was fun. It was just a baby train. Just a little guy. Yeah. Yeah. And I gave some Tina a dollar for his efforts and he was like, you don't have to do this. I was kidding. I was like, oh, I know. It's very funny to me. Yeah, just a really wholesome good time. Oh, there was, they made the depot a haunted depot.

By which I mean they just like put some Halloween decorations in there and turned off the lights. But someone's kid did grab Samantha's ankles while she was walking around. So yeah, I don't know if it was someone who was there or if it was like a child of a volunteer. But they clearly took it upon themselves to scare people. So there was like a curtain. They made it a little like thing you had to walk through. And she popped out of the curtain at me, which did startle me. It was not actually supposed to be scary. There was not supposed to be any scares in the Haunted Depot, clearly, based on the fact that there were like, the decorations were like two plastic coats stacked on top of each other with a dollar store.

tablecloth and then some like this is the stuff we live for for some reason we were like this is so crappy i love i love it then she popped out again and grabbed my ankle yeah that was actually a little bit alarming because you're like oh what if i like absolutely step on this like what if i accidentally injure this child what if i step on our hands or something that's a real problem like why are the two of you here and we're gonna we're not gonna have a good answer there were little children going into the haunted depot i think actually thinking it was going to be scary and then they came out like it wasn't scary at all but i think if she had popped out at them they probably would cry Yeah, probably. So that was funny. Maybe she had the foresight not to do that. I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? I think she was six or seven, so. Yeah. There was a guy handing out stickers to children, and when a child was like, no, I don't want one, I went, I just piped up, I'll take it. Which I'm not sure it was supposed to do, but now I have a cool sticker, so. Whatever. We paid to ride the Pumpkin Express. We should get the sticker. Sure did. And it was a cool sticker. Way better designed than the t-shirt.

It was a lovely experience. If you are in the area, they do other train rides throughout the year. We spent a lot of time reading the train times or whatever their little newspaper is. I read all of this. The Osceola St. Croix Valley Railway News.

this was volume 18 i read this cover to cover on the train wow well anyway they have a lot of advertisements for their other events there's some there's like a wine and cheese train that i'm really interested in there's a christmas pizza train yeah they apparently make the pizza on the train i don't know how that works if there's like a pizza oven and they make some frozen we are big fan of the article how i met sharon parentheses on the train It's a train volunteer and a train enthusiast's love story. It's very moving. It's very beautiful. There's an article about an ice cream train that doesn't tell you how you get ice cream. Or how ice cream is involved. It's just like, there's a train ride. Here's where it goes. The end. So you might be able to ride the Ice Cream Express, but we don't actually know how that works.

It was a very lovely day. I had a really good time. We rode out there on a mail car. So we got to like, there's just like an open, you know, like when a hobo in a cartoon is jumping onto a box car and that like big square is open. It was like that. That was cool. We got to look out bad.

uh what what's the funny now to me the funniest part of the pumpkin express experience is i posted pictures on instagram of us riding the pumpkin train and someone unfamiliar with spooky train day and it's you know it's fantastic lore saw these pictures and then later in the week saw me and was like oh looks like you had a lot of fun on the the pumpkin train it was kind of like a booze cruise and then i had to explain that no that's how we behave completely stone sober that we're just huge dorks uh so that really adds another level of that to me to be like oh no we actually just like had a really good time to be fair to this person the photo of me and my i rode the pumpkin express clip art t-shirt uh i am holding an empty beverage but that was just a frozen strawberry lemonade it does really look like you're holding booze but no and you know it seems like we probably should have been intoxicated for how much fun we were having but nope we're just high on life high on trades The question, do we actually like trains now or is this still a joke? Honestly, the answer is a mystery to me. I don't know. The answer to both of those questions is yes. So it's complicated. Because now we don't actually like trains, but we do actually like trains. We like the train events. I don't think I'm ever going to be a person that like, like there are people that they just see a train and that makes their whole day. No, I don't actually give a shit about trains as a thing. I just love a wholesome activity. And if you're looking for that, look no further than your local train museum. Particularly one you cannot be like too big of a dork at.

like that's that's the ticket right there you know it's a pretty judgment-free zone the train world no because all of the old mostly men who really love trains are delighted to see young people there And they're just like, well, yeah, you love trains. You all nationally love trains, as you should. And they will not give it a second thought. They'll just start telling you about train history. Yeah. Except to us every single time. Just some old man volunteer comes up and is like, I'm going to delight you with some train history. And just start rattling stuff up and you just go, uh-huh, uh-huh. I learned this time that train whistles are communicating Morse code. I didn't know that either. Some random volunteer old man told us that. So there you go. You learn something new every day, and that's what you learned today. Unless you already do that. Then good for you. I think a lot of people knew this, but I learned that the conductor doesn't drive the train. That's the engineer. Yeah.

So you learn something new every time. And now you can use Mac's joke that when people tell him that they're going to engineering school, he asks if you're going to drive the train. oh i love trades yeah because he's just a jerk but it's you know what it's funny every time very funny um i did a spooky season event without you you were not able to go uh me and friend of the pod heather went to halloween goat yoga at our very favorite garden center though okay okay i it was my idea to go to goat yoga so this is on me but after seeing the photos of you there i went no i can never do this ever actually so i was saying to you that you could probably do it because you probably just have to sit on the floor and pet goats and that was really not true the goats do jump on your back and the goats are big Yeah, they are really big goats. And I have fibromyalgia. And one of the things of that is there's these points in your back called tender points, which is just like these clusters of nerves that hurt way more than they should. So anyway, it's just when I saw goats jumping up on your guys' backs, I was like, oh my God, no. I had no idea that was part of it. Like I can, I'm not cut out for goat yoga. I'm glad I didn't go. I was not feeling well. So I didn't go. And then I was like, you know what? This worked out.

thought okay we previously had gone to puppy yoga many years ago and there was just you know a few puppies running around that you've had you didn't really do much yoga and in my mind this was gonna be similar to that and it was similar in that we didn't really do much yoga we did like the lightest yoga imaginable um but At one point, you did get out on all fours, and the goats clearly are well-trained and know that this means they should jump on you because they will get treats if they jump on you. Heather was actually the first person to have a goat jump on her, and it surprised everybody, including her. It was very funny, very fun. I wasn't sure if I should have a large goat on my back, given I don't have the best back, but it was fine. Their hooves, at least for me, their hooves on my upper back was kind of like a little massage. It was kind of nice.

I definitely didn't feel like I should do a lot of carrying a goat on my back, but it was fine to do a few times. You know, there's lots of different types of goats. And I think I was picturing much smaller goats. Like these were big ass goats. They were pretty big goats. There were little ones there too, but there were big ones and they all jumped on you. And, but they were wearing Halloween costumes, which was very cute. I got to hold a little baby goat that was wearing pajamas. So that was lovely. We should put a picture on our Instagram. Yeah. If you're considering doing goat yoga, know that they will probably jump on your back. If you, I would say.

What they needed to do was to warn you that this was going to happen. Because as long as you weren't in a plank, as long as you weren't on all fours, they weren't going to jump on you. But as soon as you did, then they would. So I think you could have just sat there and petted goats and not gotten jumped on. In fact, the woman next to me was an older lady. And one of the little goats jumped on her, but then she kind of just stood up and was just standing for the whole time. She was like, no, we're not doing that.

So it was lovely. I really enjoyed it. It was kind of the last spooky season thing that I did. Seeing a goat in a lobster costume was quite delightful. Very much enjoyed it. That goat's name was Burrito. Shout out Burrito. Listeners, do you think Samantha looks happier in her wedding photos or photos of her at Goat Yoga? I think you know. I think deep down we all do. She's really glowing in those Goat Yoga photos with those cute little goats.

yeah well it's quite a spooky season and it sure was supposedly we went less hard than last year but damn doesn't feel like it but we did though i'm sure i could compare the shareable calendar just having a shareable calendar with all of our species and activities should tell you that we still went a little hard um but it was you know until next time spooky season yeah thanks for all you do i have an update okay do you have any updates my update is that apparently i shocking to me was misled by my uh ghost tour guide in new orleans did you know yes that you know i'm shocked that a new orleans ghost tour guide hasn't read every papal document but because i thought that that all queer goths were devout catholics but apparently the the pope maybe perhaps allegedly has has never said that vampires are real i'm not so sure okay um you have a theory about the pope which i think i might be on board with look i was raised lutheran i

will believe any pope slander that i hear immediately i probably shouldn't i probably shouldn't but we're just like that sounds true yeah um you know i'll take this one i have got enough ghost tours that i you know should know better than to take uh what ghost tour guides say uh for for immediate fact and then repeat it so i apologize to all the popes out there all the popes that are listening i just want to say that vampires were real no i think a pope did say vampires were real why because both popes are vampires liz that's very blasphemous slanderous statement. What do you have to support that? Well, did you know that popes are buried in a series of three coffins and one of them is welded shut? That sounds like vampirism to me. And the response to that was, well, that's to prevent body snatchers. They did that to Abraham Lincoln as well.

Naive. You think Abraham Lincoln wasn't a vampire? I've seen that movie. Please. Well, yeah, he wasn't hunting vampires. That's to mislead you. He was a vampire. So lest you think that this podcast is 100% historically accurate and always providing the most well-researched information, a little correction, a little correction there. Yeah, that's all right. That's fine. The thing about the coffins is true. You can look that up. I learned about that at the Funeral Museum in Houston, which is a very cool place that I would recommend visiting if you're ever in the Houston area.

okay today we are on season eight still episode 20 and oh wait before we get started i want to read our new review this is a good great reminder to everyone that you should leave us a five-star review today obviously we only accept five-star reviews only five-star reviews are worthy of this podcast if you have a complaint okay just put it in a five-star review it's not that hard um so i wanted to make sure that we read this review that says mothman would be proud Thank you. I would listen to them talk about anything that they like or that makes them laugh. The cackling is one of my favorite parts. Hearing Liz tell the story of giving Mac a rat tail literally had me laughing so my stomach hurt.

That was so funny. Also, I just love the vibe of doing whatever, non-crime thing, of course, because you love it and embracing your own quirks and weirdness. You guys are awesome. So whoever sent in that review, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. And if you have not written us a review, it's time. So sweet. We don't get all that many new reviews, I think, because we don't get all that many new listeners. So love to see them. I know there's like two new listeners out there. So maybe one of them wrote their reviews or the other one. It's time. Go borrow a phone.

Okay. Samantha starts out this week and I'm so jealous that you got this mystery. I have the curse of King Tut. I'm really not kind of not happy about it, but go ahead. And Robert Stack for this mystery, he started this episode in like, I mean, I'm sure this is a set in Hollywood somewhere, but he's next to all these like Egyptian antiquity sort of things. He's talking about Egypt and about the curse of the Pharaoh King. And the, you know, it's, it's just, it's a whole thing. It will immediately suck you back into the, into the time. It's just, it's fantastic.

So this is the curse of King Tut. And we are told that the tomb of King Tut, or as Robert Stack called him, and I keep saying, because I think it's so funny, King Toot Uncommon. Why? I don't know why he pronounces it like this. He could just say King Tut. Maybe that's more accurate, but... Is it pronounced King Toot Uncommon? I have never heard anyone say it toot. No, that's like a child making a fart joke. I don't...

Each syllable? I don't know. Someone will tell me how I'm wrong, I'm sure. Maybe Robert Stack is the one in the world who's ever pronounced it correctly. Maybe. I have equal faith in him and any ghost tour guide. Actually, Robert Stack has read every Egyptian scroll. You know, maybe. So the Tomb of King Tut was located in the Valley of the Cain. You mean Toot Uncommon? Toot Uncommon. I'm going to resist the urge to say Toot Uncommon every single time. South of Cairo and filled with incredible gold and archaic relics.

It was supposedly guarded by a protection curse against grave robbers upon which they should meet premature deaths. So we're hearing about the discovery of King Tut's tomb and what happened to all the various people and whether or not there is a curse or not. In 1922, Howard Carter went on an expedition to locate and open King Tut's tomb in Egypt. His financial backer was George Herbert, the fifth Earl of Carnarvon. Carnarvon? Carnarvon? Whatever. I don't know. An Earl. The fifth Earl. He had a lot of money. He was fun at this thing. He spent thousands of dollars and was about to give up, but Carter begged him to let the expedition continue. It seems like the tomb of King Tut wasn't like...

It wasn't one that a lot of people were looking for. Howard Carter was determined to find it. But a lot of people were like, why are you bothering with this? George Herbert's like, you're spending my money on this wild goose chase. Time to come home. But he was able to convince him to continue. He was just not considered a very important pharaoh in Egyptian history. So people were like, whatever. Who cares about him? Right. Right. Well, Howard Carter did. And apparently...

The Earl, George Herbert, met with a psychic who gave him a warning that problems would happen if the dig continued. But despite this, they did continue. That reenactment is so good. It might be my favorite one. This guy with this hilarious mustache that's literally curled up at the sides is being told by someone looking into a crystal ball that you should not open the tomb of King Tut. He's like, oh, what choice do I have? Oh, God, it's so good. That mustache, the universe named, there is glamour in a pharaoh's curse.

I love it. Wow. That may be your best one yet. It's very poetic. So at November 26, 1922, Carter, Carnarvon, Carnarvon, Lord Carnarvon, he was there too, and his daughter opened the tomb. You know, that person.

They were overjoyed to find several golden artifacts inside, and words quickly spread of the discovery. Thousands of people descended on the area surrounding the tomb, and the legend goes that on the night the tomb was opened, the lights in Cairo went out. Now, there is a wet blanket in this episode who is a historian who said that the power grid in Egypt is not that good, and the lights are always going out, and I say boo on that. That doesn't mean they didn't go out, you know what I mean? Like, just because they went out all the time doesn't mean that when the tomb was opened, the lights didn't go out. I mean, I think they did. He's just saying that there's an earthly explanation, and I think that's dumb. Who cares?

Yeah. That guy should shut up. Try to have some fun. This guy is me walking around the zoo going, I don't know how this pumpkin fits the theme. Shut up. It doesn't matter. Just be quiet. Be quiet. So there's a jack-o'-lantern to Fran Drescher in the great thinkers section. That makes sense.

Shut up about it. Shut up. Let us have this. It's one thing. Shortly thereafter, people and animals who are associated with the opening of the tomb began to die. And they tell one story about Howard Carter's bird, pet bird, who is eaten by a cobra, which seems, I mean, honestly, it does seem symbolic. If you're going to another country for, you know, academic grave robbing, would you bring your pet bird with you? I'm guessing he lived there for a while. I guess, yeah. I mean, I don't think you could just, I'm sure that the journey was long, right? So maybe you just stayed there for a while and maybe, you know, his beloved bird he had to bring it with.

This isn't like a canary coal mine situation. No, it was literally his pet. Yeah, his pet. It was in whatever house he lived in. He's like, well, I gotta bring Tweety. I can't be without him for six months. Poor Tweety. R.I.P. Got eaten by a cobra. And we're told that the cobra, or the serpent, is the symbol of King Tut. It's a bad omen.

The first human to die was Carnarvon. Carnarvon. Carnarvon. The thing is, Samantha, he's dead. He can't complain. You're so right. Well, anyway, he was the first to die. He died during the expedition. He was bitten by a mosquito. Later, he cut the bite while shaving, which caused an infection. And we hear from another person who frequently is on digs in Egypt and says that he always tells people not to shave because of this story, because shaving causes open wounds in your skin. And if bacteria, dirt get in it, you can get an infection. It's apparently a thing that happens. He died from blood poisoning a few weeks after the opening of the tomb.

Yeah, there was also a theory that there might have been some sort of fungus in this tomb because it hadn't been opened in thousands of years for so long. And that could have been another reason that, like, people got sick. In a way, like, what is the difference between a curse and a weird deadly fungus? Like, you know, that is the curse. Yeah, I mean, in a way, if you look at it like that, because they are there to...

steal stuff right really any story that you could get out there to keep um white people from coming over and stealing stealing your antiquities yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah apparently the night he died dogs at his home in england began howling uh basically the moment he dropped dead and also all the lights went out in cairo so and what's his face is here to tell us that happens all the time but you know what whatever dogs have lights go out it's like yeah but do you cut yourself shaving and then get like whizzing from a weird fungus also all those things happened at the same moment which is pretty spooky if you ask me uh he's like that guy's going yeah cobras kill pet birds all the time and i'm going do they though i don't know it seems seems like a bad moment to me uh in 1923 another man involved in the opening of the tomb this is george jay gould died as a result of a fever And then there's a whole list of people who died. This is from the Unsolved Mysteries wiki. It says possibly as a result of the curse. Carnarvon's half-brother, a South African millionaire named Wolf Joel, an Egyptian prince, a radiologist. There's a total of...

12 people, culminating in the death of Howard himself. Now, this was several years later, but a lot of people believe that it's connected to the curse and the opening of the tomb, of course. Others obviously think that it's coincidental. I think it's fun to think that it was the curse. All right, here's my question. So long-time listeners may be aware of the Unsolved Mysteries curse, which is that many people who appeared on the show ended up passing away before their time. What could have brought the fungus to those? Was there something perhaps on the camera equipment?

oh it was actually infecting people interviewed by unsolved mysteries yeah maybe the number the number of times we've looked up people and then it turns out even though they were not old when appearing on the show that they are already dead it does seem statistically improbable it's a lot it's like we've talked about the unsolved mysteries curse a lot before because it comes up frequently so i'm wondering now i have to wonder what's spreading the curse Bacteria? Were they not cleaning off those microphones? Yeah, maybe. Or maybe it's supernatural. It's not of this earth. Who knows? So I don't have a lot more on this other than to say that the segment is really fun and interesting. You learn a little bit about King Tut and how he was kind of like Liz mentioned earlier, a minor pharaoh who ruled Egypt for 10 years. You know, there's obviously the theory that it was mold trapped in the tomb that was released. Coincidence, et cetera, et cetera. It's fun. I enjoyed it. It was a fun mystery.

I mean, I really enjoyed this one because I was absolutely one of those children that was, like, too into mummies. Most children go through a mummy phase. Yeah. And I think the Field Museum in Chicago, when I was a child, had a King Tut exhibit. So there was kind of, like, a King Tut fever going around. And we were just all, like, really hyped on mummies. Though I don't think I called him Toot Uncommon.

even as a child. Isn't it toot and common? I think it's toot and common. He gives up this weird pause for some reason. I don't know if it's just his actor way of enunciating his words very well, but it makes it sound like he's saying toot uncommon. Anyway, I love that. You know, just mummy stuff, ancient Egypt stuff is always super fascinating. And I say, yeah, there was a curse. Some people call it a fungus. Some people call it a curse. Either way, those people are dead.

Okay, now I have a wanted for you. This is a weird one. So 65-year-old Harvey McLeod had been driving a cab in Modesto, California for over 10 years, where on January 8th, 1966, picking up a seemingly normal fare... Things get weird. So the man had a turban and what turned out to be a fake beard and mustache. He didn't really think anything about this at first. He's not paid to ask questions. He's just a taxi driver. I sort of get the impression he immediately knew that the beard and mustache was fake, but was just like, whatever, man. There were some witnesses later that were like, is he here to perform? Which is very funny. That's not his business. He's just driving people around. This person also spoke in what was called a chorus stage whisper.

like they were maybe disguising their voice and only had enough money to get halfway to their destination which was pretty far away but he was like oh we can go pick up money from my brother's house along route and harvey being a very accommodating guy was like yeah sure just tell me where to go well he has him drive like basically in the middle of nowhere and then pulls a gun on him and he then chains him to this black metal box that had a keypad on a wire on it and he like puts it around his neck and clips it shut and then he activates it and he tells harvey that this is a bomb and it can be activated from a cell phone and uh so this was 1996 harvey says You can do just about anything with electronics nowadays. So I believe him.

I feel like if someone puts something that looks like a bomb on you, you're not going to go, you're not going to question it. It's best to not question it. I would say believe them. If someone says this is a bomb, just believe them. He hasn't gone anyway. So yeah, it's not really worth arguing about. So they go back to Modesto and the man tells him he has to rob a bank. So they stop across from the first Glendale bank and he gives them these final instructions. So he was supposed to enter the bank, hand the manager a note and take the money, but leave the second box that supposedly had another bomb in it.

So he goes in. He's like demanding to see the manager. At first, they think it's just like an irate customer. But then he's like, no, look. And he opens his code and it has the like electronics on him. And he's like, I'm just a just a cab driver. I'm being forced to do this. Like, here's this note. And it was for like a specific amount of money. So they like give him that amount that's in the letter. Harvey, though, is.

is a stand-up guy so he doesn't actually leave that box in the bank because he doesn't want to hurt anybody so he like takes it outside or takes it with him rather than leaving that second bomb but we find out that's not a bomb but he didn't know that right he's really courageous I mean he's interviewed for the show and he says um I maybe couldn't have done anything about myself but I wasn't gonna take everybody else out in that bank yeah he doesn't want to be responsible for that oh so yeah he takes it back to the cab which yeah I probably would have just like left it somewhere but then yeah you don't know who it will hurt so he takes it back with him um and then when he gets back to the cab he finds uh typewritten instructions He follows them. It tells him to drive 15 minutes away to a hardware store. So he parks there. He leaves the keys and the money behind. And then he's supposed to walk a mile to a payphone where he waited for further instructions that would help him dismantle the bomb. However, he waits there for a while. This dude never falls. So he finally just calls his dispatcher at the cab company and they send the police. So the police arrived. The area was evacuated. Bomb experts removed the bomb, which turned out to be a fake. So the robbery fucking worked. Yeah. Partly because.

Nobody really saw him except the cab driver. He's not like on camera at the bank. There's like no other witnesses. There are people that see him like walking away from the van when he picks up the money. But yeah, like Samantha said, they thought he was like performing at a party or something because they're like, why is that guy wearing such an obviously fake mustache and beard? But that means they remember the fake mustache and beard. Like they didn't really remember his face. No, and he had like padding under his sweater to make him look heavier than he actually was. So no one was able to recognize him or help in identifying him at all. Yeah, because he was wearing like a padded sweater.

Interesting. Anyway, he was never found, and this case remains unsolved. He got away with it. And in the update, it says that the robbery, the statute of limitations, and the robbery has run out, so he got to fucking keep that money. Yeah. Not on the kidnapping, though, so they can still get him on that. He still wanted on the kidnapping. Something tells me he's never going to be found. He was apparently six foot tall, about 160 pounds. He had short crops, silver and pepper hair. He would now be in his 60s or 70s. He drove a dark brown or bronze Ford. Like, all right. Anyway, he got away with it. I would not recommend doing this kind of robbery.

You know, pretty risky. They do take those kidnapping charges seriously. I feel like it would be a lot harder to get away with this today. Oh, absolutely. You know, it's too bad he terrorized this cab driver. I know, he's really nice. Good for him for getting that money. Sadly, Harvey passed away in 2006. Oh, R.I.P. Harvey. I don't think it's the Unsolved Mysteries curse. He was kind of an old man when they filmed this. Yeah, that I will not blame on recording equipment bacteria.

for once um i really yeah i appreciate that he really tried his best to help other people in the bank and yeah that probably did take like a year off his life though god poor harvey i know anyway got away with it at the end okay we have another interesting one this is an amnesia haven't had amnesia in a while Yeah, this one's very frustrating. Yes, it's frustrating and it's weird. And it's unlike any amnesia we've had, I believe. So this is the case of Sarah Powell. And we are told that at around 9.30 a.m. on November 16th, 1993, 14-year-old Sarah Powell woke up in her middle-class home in Clear Lake, Texas. She was in her bedroom. She was hogtied with duct tape and a phone cord. The room, however, was unfamiliar to her. She was disoriented and had no idea who she even was.

i can't imagine her home had apparently been broken into and ransacked she was only able to call for help by calling the last number on the phone so she had a phone that she was able to like pull onto the floor and she used her tongue to hit redial yeah she couldn't actually like dial a number no because her hands were behind her back tied up um with duct tape and so the last number dialed was apparently the post office she and she reached her mother deborah who worked there So Deborah immediately realized that Sarah, who was homesick from school that day, was the girl on the phone. So obviously Sarah didn't know who she was. She just said, I'm tied up. I need help. And her mom actually said, like, what does it look like around you? And she said, you know, she described a pink room that her mom immediately recognized as Sarah's room. And so she rushed home. She doesn't recognize her own room. She doesn't recognize her own mom's voice. Nope. Yeah. She didn't know her name. So she just said, the room I'm in is pink. And she described it. Her mom immediately knew it was her, called the police, rushed out of work. She got there around the same time that the police did. And they both.

rushed inside. They found the house ransacked and Sarah in her bedroom. Sarah didn't want Debra near her because she didn't recognize her and she was very upset. So the police officer kind of had her mom step to the side and he said, I'm the police. I'm going to help you. He untied her.

The police believe that she may have been involved in what happened that day for some reason. The police officer is interviewed for the show and says that at first he thought maybe she had gotten into some trouble and so she made this whole thing up to get out of it. You know when you were trying to get in trouble with your parents so you hogtied yourself? And faked amnesia and ransacked your entire house. You managed to duct tape your own hands behind your back. That's very teenage behavior.

Yeah. There was no sign of forced entry, which is apparently why he thought maybe she was the one that did it. Nor were there any fingerprints that didn't belong to someone who lived there. Okay, no forced entry does not always mean that the people who are home, like, were in on it. No, I don't know why people think that. Or people leave windows open. Like, that's just normal. I'm not saying those things are bad to do. It's just, like, normal behavior. Like, people sometimes can get into a house without having to, like, break anything. Right. A conspiracy or something. Who's to say that she didn't leave the door unlocked?

like and they walked through the front door like yeah i don't know why that's always what if you let your dogs out and then someone like forces their way inside like right there's all kinds of explanations that's not a person who was a victim is in on it um also despite it being a rainy day there were no wet or muddy footprints in the house they could have walked up the sidewalk i'm not sure why that points to anything but whatever um police eventually determined that nothing had been stolen from the house when they questioned sarah she claimed to have no memory of what happened in addition she was unable to write her name tie her shoes or even brush her teeth I feel so bad for her. I hate this idea, which I'm sure people in the town would have heard that she was faking it. No teenager is going to be willing to not know how to tie their own shoes just to get out of trouble. Like how embarrassing. No, I don't like this at all. And I feel so, I feel so bad for her. What sort of punishment would you be, you know, trying to avoid that? You would risk like being held back in school. Like how horrible.

Unfortunately, though, it was soon determined that she was most likely suffering from a traumatic induced amnesia. So eventually the doctors or whoever did believe her and they determined that whatever she was suffering from was real and that her amnesia was not fake and she wasn't just trying to get out of trouble or whatever. I'm sure she was like a really good kid. I don't know why anyone would think this other than she's a teenager. I guess teenagers are always doing shady shit. But do they do it like consistently for two months? You know what I mean? Like what a lie. You don't even remember. Her mom's like showing her pictures of her childhood and none of them are ringing a bell. Like you really want to keep that up to your own mother.

No, I think it's just a case of the police being lazy. Yeah, I completely agree. Deborah and the rest of the family tried to jog Sarah's memory with family photos. However, she could not remember anyone in the family. After about two months, she began getting her memories back of basic skills. Kind of slowly, they sort of trickled back. Then, while she and Deborah were leaving school, she suddenly suffered a seizure.

The only words she said during the seizure was, I didn't let them in over and over again. She clearly feels so bad. She did. Yeah. After this seizure, her memories of the home invasion and several masked intruders being involved terrorizing her began to slowly return. So this is what she, her memory revealed. At 830 AM, she was home with her dog when she heard sounds coming from the second floor. She ran upstairs and saw intruders breaking through the window. She called her mother, but the line was busy.

She then ran downstairs, but she could not get out the front door because the lock was deadbolted and she did not have the key. When the noises stopped, she decided to go up and investigate. That's when she was suddenly grabbed by two men. They threw her on the bed and tried to suffocate her with a pillow. When she stopped moving, they let her go. But as she fell to the ground, she saw their faces. The taller one wore pantyhose over his head. The shorter one wore a Freddy Krueger mask. This is so scary. No wonder she was traumatized. When he realized she had seen her face, he became angered and hit her in the head with his gun, knocking her out.

When she woke up, she was in there. Do your research and find out if people are home, okay? Like sometimes kids are homesick from school. Oh, I know. She's so lucky they didn't kill her. Yeah, honestly, yeah. When she woke up, he was in the room with her, told her to be quiet and that she would be okay. However, when the leader saw them talking, the two men began to argue and the taller one pointed his gun to her head. Then the shorter one, he had the shorter one tie her up and she saw two girls exiting through the windows. The shorter one left, remember the shorter one is the one wearing the Freddy Krueger mask. He placed the phone back on the hook and she passed out again.

She had had nine seizures since the attack, but she continued to regain her memory. So what the doctors realized once she started to remember what happened is the combination of lack of oxygen from being suffocated and then head trauma from falling off the bed and then being hit in the head with a gun, plus the trauma of what she experienced all combined to cause her amnesia, which makes complete sense. I'm sure she thought they were going to kill her. It really seems like the leader one wanted to kill her. It seems like by some miracle they decided against killing her.

However, even after all of this, the police remained skeptical and thought the whole incident could have been a figment of her imagination. Why? Based on what? Based on absolute what? I don't know. I honestly do not know. They put her under hypnosis, which that makes sense. But under hypnosis, she told the same story. Nobody was able to determine if her house was actually ransacked. So what we're told is that they decided they weren't definitively able to determine if the house had been ransacked or if she had made the whole thing up.

Sarah has since regained memories of her family friends and her life. Thank goodness. But she remains traumatized to this day. She described one of the intruders as a man who was around 5'10", muscular build. He had a cobra tattoo. They used a sketch artist to draw the tattoo as well as what he may look like. Which was hot, to be honest. I'm looking at him right now. Yeah. You're like, we're looking for a man who's extremely attractive and has a cobra tattoo. Yeah. Be on the lookout. The sketch is pretty attractive. You'll recognize him. You'll go, dang, that guy's hot. The jawline. Man, I don't know. The lips, the whole thing. Anyway.

So this was never solved. They never found the intruders. Sarah went on to get married and had two children. I hope she's doing well. I feel really bad for her. That's it. Those police officers are so frustrating. I'm just happy that her family believed her. Even though the police were saying she probably just made it up. Actually, they knew her and they were like, that's not like her at all. No, she seemed like a good kid. Why would she do this? That's actually really weird.

yeah i was just thinking like just because they didn't steal anything they might have had bad information that there was like i don't know cash or drugs or something in the house that they wanted they could have had the wrong house too yeah and they like looked for whatever it was and didn't find it and were mad like it didn't seem like this family had a bunch of money there probably really wasn't anything to steal yeah but yeah they might have had the wrong house or i don't know there was like some gossip that wasn't correct that i don't know they had jewelry or something they changed their mind about stealing it when they saw that she was there you know what it could be yeah so just to be like well nothing was taken it's like okay But that doesn't mean no one broke it in. Right. I don't know. Okay. So because we are such train enthusiasts, we now get a train mystery. This is an unexplained death. So I actually kind of remember when this happened. On the night of October 9th, 1995, four cars of the Amtrak train called the Sunset Limited derailed in Palo Verde, which is 60 miles south of Phoenix, Arizona. The incident left many injured and a 41-year-old train car enthusiast, Mitchell Bates, dead. Mitchell, you're one of us. I'm so sorry. Police later determined that sabotage had caused a train...

cause the crash specifically 39 spikes have been perfectly removed um in a section of track um so they show this on the show so a bunch of spikes were taken out and that allowed someone to move a rail but it was only moved four inches but that was enough to cause the crash and according to the experts we hear from that would like require someone who knew what they were doing i suppose you could debate that i really don't know enough about trains honestly well it seems like not only did they remove exactly the right piece of the track but it was like where in on the track they removed it to cause maximum damage they seem to at least have some idea of what was going to happen yeah because they were connected at a joint and i don't i don't really understand but it's like it's also just like in the middle of nowhere so like my first instincts with this is like well maybe it is just some kids walking around and they didn't really understand what that would do but then you're like well why would they even you know this is just like desert there's nothing nearby so it's kind of hard to imagine that yeah that it's just like kids walking around because i i something i was thinking about the other day i don't even remember why i was talking about this with mac but i feel like

There is a teenage age where not only is your brain not fully formed, but you're so used to following arbitrary rules that adults give you that you kind of can't distinguish arbitrary rules from rules that are really important. You just sort of start rebelling against all of it because you're so sick of being told what to do. Yeah, that's a good point. Because I feel like... there's, I almost can't articulate this well, but I feel like there is a point where you're like, well, you don't want to be who people have told you to be. So you start like trying different ways out of rebelling against that. But then some of them are like, no, that actually is like really good common sense. Like, no, you actually really shouldn't fuck with the railroad tracks. Like people were not just saying that to like force you into a certain mold of like what they expect, you know, their child to be like or whatever. But it's like, no, that was actually really important. I think this came up as we were talking about like how kids will like sneak into houses. And I think there's a, there's a.

a time in your life where that just seems like harmless fun and it's like actually you could get shot like actually that's a really good thing not to do it's a really bad idea but you do feel sort of invincible and just like you can't really think through consequences yet so i at first i was like oh well maybe you know i don't know this was just like bored kids but apparently this is like so well selected like so little effort for such maximum damage and just the location being in the middle of nothing that it does seem like it's intentional okay um The investigation into the crime also parallels an unsolved train derailment from 1939 in Nevada, where 24 people were killed in that incident. In both cases, sabotage was done ahead of a bridge in a remote desert area. And it seems like it would have taken like a lot of planning for both of them. There was an article that came out around the same time of this crash. An article covering the 39 train derailment came out around the same time as this crash. In a train magazine. In a train magazine.

However, the author of this article was like, yeah, I hadn't even gotten my copy of that yet when the new train derailment happened. And not many people really read those things. Plus, he's telling me the railway news isn't a highly read publication. If it's this one train newspaper, then I read it this one time. But also, it's not like that was new information. Because the police have been speculating that someone read that article and decided to try to do it themselves. And it's like, I guess, but maybe not that specific article.

Or is it the same person, like from 39 to 95, like potentially, I guess? I don't know. The thing is that we don't know if there is a link between these two crashes. And we also don't know who did either of those things. According to Unsell Mysteries Wiki, the suspects, or has to be someone familiar with railroads. Oh, wow. Thanks for that insight. The only clues near the crash were several identity copies of a printed letter that attacked the federal government and were signed, quote, the sons of the Gestapo.

weird the note was titled an incident of the atf and the fbi it mentioned the sieges at waco and ruby ridge uh there was a shooting of a police officer's wife who knew too much about drug kickbacks basically they found a letter written by some real right-wing nut so um it may be and with those letters you kind of wonder if it's like one person trying to act like there's more of them than they are like there's no known group referred to as the sons of the gestapo I mean, why would you want to be called on? Okay, so the other thing is a possible suspect in the case was John Olin. He was a contractor who had done cleanup work on the Southern Pacific lines in the years prior to the denailment. He had had disputes with two railroads. He was apparently known as hot-tempered, belligerent, and abrasive. Two people had asked for restraining orders against him. Okay, not great. He bragged that he could have done the derailment and had the means to do it. He lived in a town near the derailment for a year and had previously worked there.

He also had served time for burglary and had faced murder and robbery charges in the past. His house was searched in December of 95, which is right after the crash, but we don't know if they actually found anything. He's never been charged. The FBI in 2015 announced the reward of $300,000, but that hasn't led to anything, so we don't know. If you are the sons of the Gestapo, you should come forward and confess.

Also stop it. What's wrong with you? There were two mustaches in this segment. I think one of them was the guy who wrote the article. I didn't write down his name, but he had a thick gray mustache. He had the mustache you would exactly expect a train guy to have. That's called from one train enthusiast to another. There was also an FBI agent named Bruce and his mustache is called, guess what? I'm a fed.

love it and that is that okay this was a very mysterious episode actually it was and that leads us to our ratings because the first one is mysteriousness and i think it deserves a thumbs up we don't know who broke into that woman's house sarah's house we don't know who stole all that money we don't know who stole the money and wore a fake beard and mustache that everybody went wow that's a fake beard and mustache we don't know who derailed this train we don't know there was actually an egyptian curse yeah Yeah. Think about it. I think very mysterious. This is one of the most mysterious ones we've had. For certain in a while. A wide range of types of mysteries. Yep. Yep. And have not been solved. Reenactments, also excellent. The Egyptian ones. So good. Fantastic. And the ones from the people breaking into Sarah's house, very creepy. That person wearing a Freddy Krueger mask, but not a Freddy Krueger costume. You could just see that like plasticky bib part at the bottom. Ugh. You were watching this with your grandma at your kitchen table at prime time. You're probably traumatized. You're not going to sleep tonight. You're going to be clenching, white knuckling that quilt in grandma's guest room. I hope no one breaks in here.

So scary. Won't believe me if they do. So scary. Fashion. I mean, this is a good mustache episode. I have to say we got more mustaches than we usually do. You know what? It didn't used to be enough. But for this episode, I will even give it a thumbs up for fashion because.

The mustaches are slim at this point, and the ones in the Egyptian reenactment are so good. Yeah. So it's really not enough, but I'm still going to give it a thumbs up. I agree. It deserves a thumbs up. And I kind of think Robert Stack deserves a thumbs up, too, just for the opening. Just for saying toot uncommon? Just for saying toot uncommon. Sure, why not? Thumbs up all across the board. Thumbs up. So how are we going to rate this one? I want to say it's like a four? Yeah, I would say three and a half, four. Three and a half, four? It's solid. It is solid. I like the variety. I like that we get...

one from the further past. We haven't really had anything like this train derailment before. The amnesia case is unique. Even the bank robbery is weird. So this is a solid case. And I like that there's more mistreats. So yeah. Love it. Love it.

Good job, Unsolved Mysteries. Those mysteries were really unsolved. Okay, as promised. Last episode, we said that we would talk about The September House. We both read it. We both liked it. Yes, which is a newer book. I don't remember it came out this year or last year. But it's about a, it's fiction. It's about a haunted house where the woman who owns the house knows full well it is haunted and just refuses to leave.

I did end up really enjoying this. At first, I was like, I don't know about this because she's like talking about the ghosts that live there. And I thought maybe it was gonna be like a little cutesy. No, there's a lot going on in that book. It's very skillfully. I think this is this person's first book. That's surprising to me. So I thought it was very well done. I'm looking up the author's name. This is Carissa Orlando. Toot Uncommon. Are you there? I'm here. Okay. That's the name Samantha has signed in with today.

Yeah, no, I thought the book was great. I read it in September, which was fun. It's a unique haunted house book, which I think I'm always looking for. I would recommend it. I really liked it. Yeah, it surprised me. It has more going on than meets the eye at first. I feel like lots of these type of books sort of have the...

plot structure of a mystery where you're getting little clues that are leading up to a big reveal. But this has more than that going on. So that was a pleasant surprise to me that it's not just like, you know, it's just more complicated. And that was, I appreciated that a lot. Fabulous. Smith is like, yeah, that's great. I don't have a lot more to say other than I really liked it. And I'm glad that you enjoyed a book I recommended to you. I was a little worried it would be too gross for you, but it's not really like body horror. No.

Also, I will say that I am much more tolerant of that in a book than I am in a visual. Ah, gotcha, gotcha. So, yeah, we'll just leave it to my imagination to gross me out or not gross me out, you know. And I guess my imagination was kind because it was fine. Good. Well, I'm so glad. My other found love recommendation that I would have for people is something I did last week that I found really helpful, which is that I made a mind map of everything that I do. And I would really recommend doing this because I think you'll be really surprised.

by how much you do. So what I'm saying to do is write your name, make a circle, and then have spokes for your main activities, like, I don't know, work, your hobby, maybe taking care of your kids, whatever. And then have stuff branching out of those of what all is involved with that. And then you can also connect them if there's things that overlap. I was shocked. I was shocked by the outcome. That's honestly, just to have a visual of...

where all my energy is going or the amount of things that i'm like expecting of myself um i found this really helpful and if you're doing something like child care like oh my god the amount of things that are associated with that that add up that maybe you're not even a mind map page just for your care duties yes because it's easy to sort of dismiss little things that you do or things that you're like well everybody has to do that like not necessarily like i really hate that meme that's like you have the same 24 hours in a day as beyonce i was like i'm pretty sure beyonce has like 12 assistants and they all have 12 assistants like Beyonce's not doing her own laundry, right? She's getting a lot of help. So if you're not in that situation, if you're not Beyonce and you're listening to this podcast, you're probably not giving yourself credit for the amount.

energy and time and effort that you are putting into things. And so it was just very helpful to sort of get a visual confirmation of that and sort of be like, oh my God, maybe I actually am stretched a little thin now that I draw it out. Yeah, absolutely. And what I didn't add, but definitely, what I personally didn't put on mine, but probably should, was I think for just like chores, like daily tasks, like shit like laundry. Because it's easy to go like, oh, well, everybody has to do that. It's like, not necessarily. Some people send their laundry out. So yeah, give it a try. See if that helps. I don't know. Seems like a really fruitful exercise.

I think that you should do it because you really do do a lot of stuff. You're going to have to have donkey care, donkey care, the garden. Yeah. Maybe you shouldn't. Cause I want you to keep making the podcast. Cause I even just, you know, if you have work, all your responsibilities at work, maybe you have multiple jobs, you know, do you work out? What's all involved? Like then all of a sudden you're like, Oh my God, damn. It's a lot. It's definitely a lot. You can just, I think it's easier to cut yourself some slack once you see it all written out like that. And maybe you go, wow, I need to, you know, stop doing whatever.

Or in Samantha's case, you go, wow, I really need to get five more donkeys. Look at all this room over here. Oh, God. I really need to get some goats and start hosting goat yoga. Well, that might be true. That's the dream right there. Exactly. Put those goats to work for you, Samantha. Can you afford not to? Think about it. Think about it. Maybe we should start a second podcast. To fund our goat yoga enterprise? Yeah. Well.

Do you ever have dreams that sort of connect to other dreams that you've had? I think probably. I think years ago had a dream that we had a second podcast that was like a call-in show. It was like a bonus podcast to this podcast where the listeners could call in. Sorry, listeners, we do not have the technology for you to be able to do that. This does not exist. But in my dream, we had a podcast where the listeners could call in. And now sometimes in dreams, I'll be talking to you and saying, remember when we used to do that second podcast too? And you'll be like, I can't believe we used to do that. There's no room on the mind map for a second podcast. Sorry, listeners. I know. But it's just funny that somehow in my dream world, that fictional podcast has carried on. It was fun when we used to do the call-in podcast.

Like, that's never existed. But when I'm asleep, it exists in the dream world. Anything can exist in the dream world. I guess. I gotta plant those seeds. Yep.

for your future goat yoga business. Enterprise. Yeah. Yeah. At least in my dreams, I can go there. They'll be very small goats. So it'll be no problem. All right. Let's plug our stuff. Yes. We have a Patreon still. That really is the second podcast. You should sign up for that. It's a dollar and some tax. Oh, I should say, if you have an iPhone, don't sign up through the Patreon app. Apple charges you like an extra 30% or something ridiculous. You should do it like just in your browser.

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