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EPISODE · Sep 4, 2025 · 55 MIN

S1 | E27 Stop Chasing Impressions: Heidi Medina on Conversation-First Business Support

from Get A Shift On: Healthcare Career Change and Business Stories · host David Birchmore

Shouting into the void on socials? Heidi Medina shows how conversation-first beats algorithms and drives real career change and success.In this week’s episode, I sit down with Heidi Medina, a 35+ year, 5X entrepreneur and social selling strategist who’s helped 350+ service providers and coaches spark intentional online conversations that connect and sell, without the awkward pitch. Now based in Portugal, Heidi frees clients from algorithm-chasing by turning comments and connections into paying work and collaborations through conversation-first marketing. You’ll hear how that approach grew from her own five-business journey, landscaping, cleaning, enterprise social, and more.You’ll learn a practical framework for writing meaningful comments, why “great post” stalls relationships, and how to redefine conversions (follows, DMs, invites) so your pipeline reflects real human momentum. We also cover resilient career change: patient timelines, learning from failure, and why proactive follow-up ends more sales droughts than any content hack.Follow Heidi:LinkedIn Substack Connect & Collab Networking Event Follow David / Via Nova here:⁠⁠David's LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠Via Nova LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠Via Nova Website⁠Free Personal Exit Plan / Work With MeFrustrated at Work? Want to know if you are ready for a career change? Answer these 10 questions and find out! #CareerChange #Entrepreneurship #SocialSelling #ConversationMarketing #LinkedInTips #NetworkingChapters:00:00 Welcome & “Take Two” intro 00:51 First business at 13: $300 → $1,100 flowers 04:23 From layoff to cleaning biz, then enterprise social & coaching06:43 Uni vs real-world skills; $60k lessons 10:32 AI, digital safety & what schools miss 13:42 Gen X as the bridge generation 15:23 Craigslist lessons & early online marketing 18:20 Conversation-first marketing vs content-first 20:16 Build trust by talking (not broadcasting) 21:40 Autism, entrepreneurship & why corporate didn’t fit 25:19 People work differently; manage to strengths 28:38 Youth entrepreneurship & changing workplaces 33:50 Human detail vs generic AI content 35:19 A comment framework that actually connects 37:40 Why “Great post” isn’t a strategy 44:35 Better to say nothing than “well done”? 48:14 Stop chasing impressions; chase conversations 50:49 Redefining conversions: follows, DMs, invites 53:35 Ending threads & doing the follow-up 56:31 Top 3 tips for human online conversations 58:47 Career change advice: patience, help, fail forward 1:00:50 Wrap-up & thanks

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