EPISODE · Mar 30, 2026 · 29 MIN
S1 Ep. 02: Unstoppable Momentum: Bernadette McClelland on Change, Risk and leadership - Part 2
from Carrie, It's Not That Serious · host Carrie Hunter
What if the secret to high performance isn’t in the big, bold leaps but in humble blue plastic bags and perfectly imperfect starts? In Part 2 of Carrie Hunter's conversation with Bernadette McClelland, they uncover the real patterns behind lasting momentum, daring reinventions, and the true mark of influential leadership.Get ready to hear how Bernadette McClelland overcame fear and self-doubt, launched a solo podcast, wrote a book, and walked the Camino pilgrimage alone—proving that resourcefulness often outweighs resilience. Discover why “the power is in here,” how true influence goes far beyond charisma, and what the world’s top performers quietly know about staying kind, decisive, and authentic under pressure. Plus, ziplining across Zambia to Zimbabwe? Yep, she did that, too.You’ll leave this episode rethinking how you manage resistance, lean into uncertainty, tap your intuition, and lead others—while embracing imperfection every step of the way.Notes from the Interview: The two books Bernadette mentioned during this episode were: 1) Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder (Incerto) by Nassim Nicholas Taleb 2) The Hero's Journey: Joseph Campbell on His Life and Work.The movie Bernadette mentioned during the episode was: 1) The Way a 2010 drama film directed, produced and written by Emilio Estevez, who stars alongside his father Martin Sheen.Connect with Bernadette McClellandSales Leader of Influence WebsiteBernadette's WebsiteInstagramCheck out Bernadette's WIP StoryEpisode Overview00:00 Welcome and picking up from Part 100:22 Bernadette McClelland on business transitions, resisting and launching her podcast01:53 Redefining momentum—vertical, not timeline-based02:26 The power of jumping into action despite fear03:19 The “rubber band” effect of growth and returning to old patterns05:31 Patterns of top performers: standards, kindness, and true influence07:53 Introducing Bernadette McClelland’s new book and leadership framework09:38 The 5 layers of influential leadership (think Russian dolls!)14:10 Walking the Camino solo—resilience, resourcefulness, and epic rain22:26 Ziplining from Zambia to Zimbabwe and the power of just going25:15 Lessons in the journey vs. the destination25:49 What Bernadette McClelland wishes she knew earlier: self-trust and intuition27:20 What it means to be a Woman in Power (WIP)28:54 Wrap up and ways to connectTune in for inspiration, tangible takeaways, and proof that your next big thing is just one imperfect action—and maybe a blue plastic bag—away.
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What if the secret to high performance isn’t in the big, bold leaps but in humble blue plastic bags and perfectly imperfect starts? In Part 2 of Carrie Hunter's conversation with Bernadette McClelland, they uncover the real patterns behind lasting momentum, daring reinventions, and the true mark of influential leadership.Get ready to hear how Bernadette McClelland overcame fear and self-doubt, launched a solo podcast, wrote a book, and walked the Camino pilgrimage alone—proving that resourcefulness often outweighs resilience. Discover why “the power is in here,” how true influence goes far beyond charisma, and what the world’s top performers quietly know about staying kind, decisive, and authentic under pressure. Plus, ziplining across Zambia to Zimbabwe? Yep, she did that, too.You’ll leave this episode rethinking how you manage resistance, lean into uncertainty, tap your intuition, and lead others—while embracing imperfection every step of the way.Notes from the Interview: The two books Bernadette mentioned during this episode were: 1) Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder (Incerto) by Nassim Nicholas Taleb 2) The Hero's Journey: Joseph Campbell on His Life and Work.The movie Bernadette mentioned during the episode was: 1) The Way a 2010 drama film directed, produced and written by Emilio Estevez, who stars alongside his father Martin Sheen.Connect with Bernadette McClellandSales Leader of Influence WebsiteBernadette's WebsiteInstagramCheck out Bernadette's WIP StoryEpisode Overview00:00 Welcome and picking up from Part 100:22 Bernadette McClelland on business transitions, resisting and launching her podcast01:53 Redefining momentum—vertical, not timeline-based02:26 The power of jumping into action despite fear03:19 The “rubber band” effect of growth and returning to old patterns05:31 Patterns of top performers: standards, kindness, and true influence07:53 Introducing Bernadette McClelland’s new book and leadership framework09:38 The 5 layers of influential leadership (think Russian dolls!)14:10 Walking the Camino solo—resilience, resourcefulness, and epic rain22:26 Ziplining from Zambia to Zimbabwe and the power of just going25:15 Lessons in the journey vs. the destination25:49 What Bernadette McClelland wishes she knew earlier: self-trust and intuition27:20 What it means to be a Woman in Power (WIP)28:54 Wrap up and ways to connectTune in for inspiration, tangible takeaways, and proof that your next big thing is just one imperfect action—and maybe a blue plastic bag—away.
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