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S10 EP10: Review: Andor Season 2 Arc 2

from Radio Rebellion: A Star Wars Podcast · host Alberto M Calderon

The Empire sets its plan in motion to stoke rebellion on Ghorman with Syrl playing the part of puppet master without knowing he's the one wearing the strings. As things heat up, Luthen sends Cassian to the planet to see if the Ghorman Front are for real.Special guest, Moe joins the Rebellion as we look at Bix mental state, a tense art exhibit, and Saw Gerrera's inspiring speech about huffing fumes in Andor Season 2 Arc 2.Follow Moe https://twitter.com/jynmystardustOti https://twitter.com/EPEstarGuars - https://bsky.app/profile/epestarguars.bsky.socialBad Wolf Broadcast https://twitter.com/BadWolf_fni - https://bsky.app/profile/badwolfbroadcast.bsky.socialLink Tree: https://t.co/QiW944JnUG?amp

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Who's that means a build home hope? And welcome to another episode of Red Everybody, I'm a star, a warist podcast. I'm your host, I'm your host, and I'll be back there on, and thank you for joining us today. No party, he's busy, doing whatever it is he's doing.

It doesn't matter, we got a great guest to this. I go host, my friend, Mo. Well, how are you doing? Thanks for joining us again.

It's been a while, but it's always fun when you're here. You're in the chat, online, everybody's always fun to have you. How are you doing today? I'm doing well.

I'm Oti now, so I just need to get used to it. Yeah, that's fine. You feel the part perfect? I'll start, I guess.

Happy early May 4th. I kind of forgot it's already tomorrow. It's May 4th, so happy May 4th to you, and to everyone. Thank you for watching.

You have anything planned for tomorrow? I guess this weekend, kind of celebrate May 4th. Yes, so I wanted to celebrate tomorrow, but it worked out better to hang out with everybody today, so we're going to watch Rogue One later, which is going to be fun. It's a perfect movie for this.

It's a perfect way to show it to you. I found out yesterday my wife told me, I guess that downtown is about 40 minutes from where I live. They have a May 4th thing going on today. They're going to show in Paris right back, costume party, and all this.

It starts right now, like at five. I'm like, oh, well, I didn't know about this. I didn't plan on properly, so I'll miss that one. We're here, we're talking Star Wars.

We'll have fun, and then tomorrow, it tells on the underworld drops, and it shows it's event-res and cut-bane. Do you like that? It tells of, kind of, many cities we've gotten this past couple years. Are you excited for this one?

I'm more excited for this one, I think, then. Jedi was cool. Honestly, Empire was a, I don't even remember who it was, but it was a little forgettable. But this one's going to be great because I love Ventress.

It's going to be nice to see more of his story, but mainly on their for Ventress. So that's what I'll be doing tomorrow. Actually, I just remember, we'll have that. Yeah, we'll have that.

Kind of like you. I feel like they feel the void where there's nothing going on. I'm not that big as who Ray Fan of the Star Wars. They also have series so far.

The Empire One was thrown and... Oh, right. I forgot the one from the magistrate. Yeah, yeah.

All of your stuff for now. Deanna Lea in a center. Listen, I know the actors name. They were good, but yeah, whatever.

I like Ventress in terms of she came back in the Bad Night, the Bachelor's School. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I like Ventress in terms of she came back in the Bad Night, the Bachelor's School to see where her story goes. And Kat Bane will see.

At least it will be a fair show. Yeah, Kat Bane was like, I don't know. I just feel like Dave just wants to expand his story as much as he can. Just bring him back.

It'll be showing. Alright, cool. But Ventress is there too. That's what I'm going for.

Yeah. Like I said, when this got announced, even though they're not my favorite characters, I want to start with a little branch out a little bit in the stories that they tell, it's nothing to be mad about. Yeah, I give you more stories about those characters. It'll be fun.

And from what I first showed. It's like, they're just really short. You know? It's crazy.

People that have seen some of the episodes have been raving about them. So we'll see. Hopefully they're nice. We'll figure out that we'll find out tomorrow.

And then we'll do an episode on them here probably after and or I don't want to make some. We'll get their own show for that. Alright, before we keep going, our friend Bach is here. How you doing?

Bach, thanks for joining us. Sorry. Thank you. Morgan.

I'm embarrassed. Thrawn was in the Morgan Elizabeth section. He wasn't the one. He was Barry's selfie.

We saw her go as an Inquisitor. That's right. Actually, I did like that one. That was, it was like that one.

Yeah. I'll give it. I'm not here. They're always getting to it when Bach is in the chat.

I know. Yeah. Alright, but I'll have to do the. Well, he is always like playing the doubles advocate.

So maybe I can do that. Yeah, I'm going to box that something. Just ram it. Go at him.

We'll be the same. Well, thank you. Bach will be in here. And anyone that might be watching this and it's not in the chat.

I'm just make sure you hit that thumbs up like button. Comment down below if you're watching this later. I want to cover anything. I'll just leave thoughts on all the Andra episode.

I think we're talking about today. And subscribe to our channel so you don't miss any of this one day drop. And if you're listening to the audio podcast, thank you. And that's always and give us a five star rating reviews.

And we'll be happy. We'll be happy. We'll be happy with our four stars three stars. I'm just keeping it.

Keep it nice. I'll leave it up. Also they. No, no, I don't know if it's, I guess it's official.

A new novel is coming out called the last order by Kwame Ombali. I just want to follow is following the end of the Star Wars rest of the Skywalker. Let me read that. I just mess that up.

Following the end of Star Wars. The rest of Skywalker that resistance rescues a ship pool of young passengers who have been kicked not by first by the first order as Fine and Jana set out to find the first order the officer responsible before he can endanger any more children, the two former Stormtroopers must wrestle with the uncomplicated past and soldiers of the oppressive regime, comes out not too far from now, until 21st. This story a lot of people have been asking for this, like the TV series, animated it, whatever, and we finally get something with Finn and Jaina trying to save all the kids before they get indoctrinated into the Empire or that first order and find out more about their past. Seems like a no brainer at this point, right?

I know, honestly, it's a little strange how much they haven't told the story of after the Rise of Skywalker, but I think because Ray's movies coming and the Starfighters, so it's like maybe now they're trying to like piece it all together. Yeah, I mean, just give us more stories in that time period. Like I love everything that builds up to it, but now let's move past it. And I guess this is a story that people wanted since the end of Rise of Skywalker, people wanted more with Jane and Finn and all that Stormtrooper thing that they went through.

So it's nice that they didn't forget about that, even though it'll be like 70 years, but we'll get back to five, six years. I don't even know. But give us more Finn, we love Finn. Come on, I'm still hoping that he's so underutilized, like please.

We need more Finn, such a great character. Well, all right. So with that, let me get a clean up, Marie. Okay, it's not the first Star Wars celebration here.

All right, so if you guys are ready, I'm not ready. Let's stop Star Wars and Star Wars on TV. I'm not your failure. Obi-Wan, Star Wars on TV.

Now. Yeah, the revolution starts now with Andor, arc two of season two more when I was, let me figure out what I'm gonna ask, we are guests on this show. Your name is one of the ones that always comes up. You're a huge fan of Rogue One, you're a fan of the nurse, obviously catching all those characters.

We were here when we did a Rogue One, three, we were when we talked about Under season one. So it was no brainer that we wanted to have you back on the show. So I can thank you so much for joining us. Before we get in.

Yeah, before we get into this arc, can I just be your overall thoughts of the first three episodes as it got set up for the last three that we just got earlier this week? The first three episodes, I think I liked it overall. There were some scenes that I feel like dragged on a little bit, because it's just one year and we're only getting three days out of that year. And I feel like we were at the Mon Mothma wedding forever.

I know, but I enjoyed all the scenes. Like I were beautiful, the dancing at the end was really good. Cassian scene was by far my favorite. Just seeing Rebels the infighting, they just can't be on anything.

There's no structure. And I think that's gonna pay off later when the rebellion is actually formed. And there is that structure because we've obviously seen how it goes without it. And it's just a mess.

That's one of the best things the show is doing so far. It's showing you that different pockets of Rebels out there, how they all are doing it different ways. There's no each other. There's not a leader out there.

I'll throw that scum later when Mon Mothma will do her appeal and kind of leave. Of course. And right now, everyone's just out of whack. Even Goldman front and whatever is happening to it.

It's very weird. Everyone has their own rebellion. Everyone has their own rebellion. And right now, it's not helping anyone to go in out of whack.

I think I like that first arc. I think I like this one better. I really like this episode. Yeah, this one is shined more.

Yeah, episode two, I think is my favorite of the three. I want to spend some time to get around just this speech. It was so great. I'm so happy he was back.

Because of course, what occurred anytime he's on screen, it's incredible. He could have such little lines and he killed it. Yeah, I'm going to be a hypocrite throughout this episode because when we talk later about the big recasting, I'm going to say like, hey, it doesn't matter. But at the same time, I'm thinking about, can anyone else play Sogarera like for a for a second?

Also, don't change him. And then when we talk about Bello again, I'm going to be like, it doesn't matter. It's what this story is going to ask. So I'm a hypocrite.

But come on, that scene with Sogarera was so great. We'll get to that. For anyone watching or this, same thing with it last week, we won't go episode by episode. We kind of subdivided some of the big arcs inside the arcs, I guess.

And then we'll cover most of it. I'm guessing probably have 20 notes, but we'll get through them. So let's start with what I call this Imperial Planning, and their plan for Gorman and for zero, who thinks is the cream of the crop finally doing something. And it's being manipulated like no one can believe we got to love the guy.

But even I bought it first. He's so pathetic. It's so hard watching him sometimes. I'm like, come on, do you?

As the story goes, these three episodes at first, I'm like, well, really did he really break up with the either I see really in charge of he doing all this for the empire than when he meets up with Deidro back on Coruscant, so that weird message that they had it. Don't even let him back into his own office because he can go in, which is mind blowing. But then as the story goes, you're like, oh no, he's getting manipulated to do something. And that part with part, I guess, when he tells Deidro, he can never know what's really going on.

And just like, come on, I know it's like, oh, pull zero. You don't know what's going on. But just all that entrance within just being kind of the head of his own office over there. And then sorry to be attracted, not attractive, but kind of the government front wants to see if he's the guy that they need from the inside of the imperials.

What's a great set of two that character and why his whole life has been building season one. Honestly, like, it seems like Cyril always has the opportunity to be a part of something greater. And he keeps on falling for, oh, the empire. Oh, the empire.

If I just do this, if I prove myself here and it's like, they're just going to keep using you. Like, not really that important to them. Exactly. Ormin's are going to end up getting to him somehow.

He, I mean, just like what happened in his office, like nobody told him that was going to happen. And he's just like having to go through all this. And it's like, the empire, they obviously don't care about you that much, dude. No, that was a great scene when the ISB tech, I think it was, hey, we are coming and do a sweep of your office.

No, this is my office. I'm the head. I don't care. I'm going to call the manager.

Go whoever you want. Anyone else has a problem. All your steak is like, dude, doesn't matter what you're doing. Yeah, you're nothing.

He's like, you can't come into my office. I mean, my girlfriend's in the ISB. Yeah, don't let me call my girlfriend. I'll get my girlfriend from the phone.

But I love also how paranoid he is at the beginning. Things that guy is watching, puts a little string on the door, trying to sell him spiders. And then of course, when he proves through that he's being spied on that, he's like, oh, I'm a great spy, I'm a great imperial. I'm going to pass this up to dinner and wait, oh, you're not going to tell part, I guess?

Like, no, this is exactly important. Go to your little mirroring. We're doing everything. So you think that you're in control, but she's like, you're a cog in the machine.

Okay. You're a means to an end. And for when he calls his mom, he calls Evie and she says, why did you leave? I got you back on Coruscant, are you counting spiders?

Okay. But then we have Ryland, who's the leader of the government from this politician, also sells spiders, very nice dresses and suits that he sells. But they want to recruit zero, which again, this all plain as at what didra and part against have been kind of playing it. But all that scene, it's been talked about endlessly online and the creators talked about it, how the government front is this basically representation of the French revolution or the French resistance.

And it was great, of course, when they you learn that all the actors spoke French of all friends, they created the government dialect based on the French dialect and then they created their own version. They could talk among themselves. But as you're watching this, that you obviously figure out, okay, there is a French resistance right here. It definitely seemed like it, especially because the monument almost looks like a guillotine.

I'm like, this is a little bit too on the nose. But and then yeah, they all just sounded French the language. It's similar to Ankenari, how they all have their language and it's like a mixture of our languages. And I was like, okay, I see what they're doing here.

I like that. It's great to also, and we talked a little bit already, the different pockets of rebellion, how they all kind of gather and decide what's the best path forward. This is the one that seems the most like we've lived this before. This has happened.

It might be a little bit too on the nose, but the way it was presented, Sniffers' Star Wars is great. So this little although this part wasn't really a spike and of theme, everything else with Casian was, what's in this resistance built up inside full government is able to get crushed. It's great to see those scene when they're meeting in the, I guess, whatever secret place everyone's having their chance of depotting their little sense how they clamped each other and then of course a little go and feel listen to it. It's great to get them in Star Wars.

Yes, a little bit on the nose. But you get to feel why those citizens of government feel the way they do. Yeah. And I love all their little like radios.

So much radios this season, like so much frequencies and stuff. I love it. I told all the other thing was last week, I don't even know. People that are love all the buttons and nothing.

So I was like, we're going nuts. Every time that Clay Apple saw her. She's like, yeah, all the radios are going to work great. You have to unplug them where they're getting listened to.

But also shows how little people know about Palpatine's manipulation of everything. When he said, how Palpatine probably doesn't even know what's going on under his name. The ISB is a shadow government. It's like, you're in here shaking the TV like, no, they're behind everything.

It's like they had so much going for them. And it's like Palpatine. Come on. Yeah, we can both help the empire.

If we work together, it's like, no, this is what they want. Let's take it a step further. Like a little bit more outside. Yeah, think a little bit.

Which of course, then place it on the whole episode when it's, are they ready for what they're doing? I'm glad with everything that's been going on there. Now we got Krennik in the first episodes that we haven't walked away from the great scenes inside the ISB when Poitagas is the one leaving. I love when he's talking to all the other managers or whatever they are.

And it's okay. Tell me what you've got. Oh, 10 days, they go through the list. Okay.

So what's your plan? What information? I've got it. Yeah.

I'm something to really them. It's like, that's what you got. This buffet of rebel plunders, like, oh, man, who says that? And then he goes, 10 days, two supervisors, 30 suspects and still no intel.

Just ingesting and speculating. It's just, let me hide. Oh, yeah. There's many reasons.

This is a big one. Just give me one reason. It's just so great. It's a great character.

I was a little bit afraid when they brought Krennik that he was going to get pushed to the side. So I'm glad I was still there. But yeah, you enjoying how delicious it is when he just rails or the imperials were not doing a good job. It's great.

I need to see a scene with him and Krennik. Like, I see a scene with Krennik with every ISB and like supervisor, just so that he can see more like pompous and they don't know what they're doing. And he's got this secret mission nobody knows about. Like, I love that.

Yeah, I love that little bit that we got in that first episode that also showed you that structure that even as part of that seems as this important b-roll, he's still a couple levels that build out Krennik. And with the energy project that they're doing for the Empire, we also love when part of us has to throw the names. Oh, I'm meeting with you, Lauren. And we're going to talk to the emperor trying to build up his importance in it.

But yeah, that one little extra button means so much. Oh, yeah, it's red. If it's red, you know, it's important. And then our friend Lonnie is making moves inside the ISB trying to throw an idea out there.

So part of ourselves and just stream everyone. But I love that he's we're getting more with Lonnie. Diddra's access and I forget his name, like, urge or something like that. It's taking over the access project that of course did us not too happy about it.

But Lonnie took that opportunity to get some information. Then we have that great scene when he meets with Luton to kind of telling that diddra's now we're seeing Goldman that throws Luton all through the work. You think that's going to come back to play him at some point? We've seen Luton kind of lose his temper, his patience.

Like, he says, the time for waiting is done. We can't keep waiting. So I don't know. Yeah, it's so interesting because this last time they met, Luton was like, you know, three months is too long for us to not be meeting each other.

And then you look back at season one and it was like a year since they have met. And so now he's like, no, I need this information now, which is like, it's good. But then I'm like, worried about Lonnie? Like, not that I like love him too much.

He's like, he's a cool character. But I'm like, man, the empire is going to catch on. And I'm actually thinking like, the worst mission, I think that might be where the empire is like, wait a minute. How did they know about that?

Yeah, we'll talk a little bit more about the end. But yeah, this is that and I'll say I didn't catch it that first time just seeing people going to go through online. Super fast. Like, only two people knew apparently about Gory's wanting to expand inside Kurosen.

And now this happened. So it's like, what's going on, I think, unfortunately, I might come back to buy little Lonnie, which I love the guy because I love these kind of plain both sides. We're not plain both sides, but we're in this, this plant inside the ISB. So I'll be sad when he goes, but yeah, I don't think I don't make it all the way.

I don't know. I think I might make it a little longer because the Gory's mission, it was Deidre's little sidekick that was like super excited and he made sure that he took the mission. So maybe he's the one that's going to get real for it. I just wrote it just when this is why I love part of all his comebacks.

When he's oh, yeah, we'll do it. We'll do it right now. It's an assignment. Calibrate your enthusiasm.

Calibrate your enthusiasm is so good. I'm going to keep that for any time. I won't get too excited. Calibrate your enthusiasm is just an assignment.

Don't get too high top. But yeah, maybe he Lonnie thinking about it. I'm just going to push this on. He's very excited for it.

Tell me all the information after you read the dossier or whatever and I will fall into him. I think I'll be careful. They might be making a little bit mistake here and there. I don't know if we'll see Lonnie for very long.

No, just going back to Cyril a little bit. He got planted there on Goryman by Deidre, which was given the assignment by Krenic and then just passes that on to Cyril and like you said, he just wants this approval from anyone. And probably when Deidre said, hey, go to Goryman for me. It's like, yes, finally I'm getting to do something.

Yes. That meeting that he had with the Goryman Front and which Rhyla was very interesting. I don't have that discussion with basically your enemy. We're just trying to leave.

If you're going to write a report and make that your headline, we're just trying to leave in peace and just be happy. Make that your headline. Why are you even here? Well, they're scared that they're building an armory right next to the monument.

He gets given a little spider. He has three already, takes that one to his mom, which they were going to call this spider. Cyril's two different companies. You got to love that woman, love Ili at the same time.

I understand why he doesn't want to spend a second with her. Oh, he's brooding. He doesn't talk. It's the same.

Like you win here. Oh, give me companies. Yeah. Did you was like, you want to go to Goryman?

He's like, yes. Further away from here as possible. And then of course, when he after meeting with the Goryman Front and giving the information on the shipment and earning the trust and he goes back to Goryson, after spending one hour back in his apartment, whatever happened, that one hour, we'll leave it to people's speculation. But there's a very dark light in that apartment.

Also, you might trip walking over there. They just like repuls me. I cannot look at them any longer. It is something about them together that I'm like, I hate this.

I love it. I love it. But it's like, not so much, please. Every time it comes up, I'll always say, this was a joke at the end of season one.

Like, there was, oh, they're going to get together. Oh, yeah. No, please. Yeah.

I know. When we say it's like, do I really want to say this? I don't think I want to. But I was careful.

Nobody followed me. Oh, I know I had someone follow this. Like, oh, poor guy. I know.

Just need someone and someone over him. And he seems like turned on by. He's like, you got someone follow me. It's like, stop.

Yeah. Little smiles. Like, who doesn't trust you? Oh, so.

Do you think, especially when Poetica says, hey, he can never know what's really happening, that little, hey, I got you follow because I don't trust you. Me, I know they talked about it last week. I'm always doing our kind of previous, you see a path where I don't want to say redemption, but when maybe he turns to the rebel side, when he sees everything has been going on, maybe kind of a, I don't want the empire to win. I just need Tyler and to lose kind of saying that he doesn't care if the rebels win.

That he just wants to stick it to Didra, maybe. I've been hoping for this since season one because every time Cyril gets involved with like, the empire, he's only ever doing it for like a greater good, a good cause. And every time, it's like the empire is proving themselves to be not that. So I am actually hoping that he turns.

And I think if he ends up figuring out what they're just doing, that will probably be a turning point. Yeah. And I think that's a way to do it. We can speculate 20 times what makes him turn, but having someone like Didra that he's been infatuated since he lies on her, be playing him might be the thing that turns him.

Is it the massacre itself? Maybe he gets blamed for the massacre when it happens. And I'm just wondering, he believes in the empire. He believes in it's so hard that he just wants to climb that ladder.

But yeah, I think if he ends up turning to the rebels or doing anything against the empire, he finds out what's really happening that Didra is the one that put him in that position. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. I don't even think he believes in the empire so much as I think he just believes in order.

And because there is no structured rebellion right now, there's nothing for him to go to. So once it's structured, I mean, you can come on over. Come on, we need someone to calculate how many shipments will want. Buck is right.

They can't even look at each other. They can't even look at each other. No, she's like, I don't like that, please. The little kiss on the cheek wasn't the most affectionate.

Yeah. You ever pulses me? I'm telling you. I was like, oh, God, I can't look away.

We try. I don't know if it's like a car crash. I'm like, oh, yeah. I remember when we first images were coming out and there was a picture of zero inside the ISP headquarters and I was like, man, he's gonna be so happy.

He finally made it. And then when part guy stole it, oh, great job. So you're okay. Keep it up.

If I say this, this is like the greatest moment my leg would kill the mood basically. So pathetic. I can't. It's like your boss and your good job on a report and you've been happy to that extreme.

It's like, what is it? Calibrate your enthusiasm, zero. You need to calibrate your enthusiasm. He's that kid in school that like if they got a gold star sticker, it was like the best day of their life.

It just wants validation. Yeah, he just wants, that's exactly right. He just wants validation from anyone in power above from him. And he got it from the highest person that he knows.

So cloud nine until it comes crashing down. We'll see if it's next week. Someone that's some cloud nine, but maybe half in cloud nine. It's so good.

It's my favorite scenes in the whole arc from the end of episode four and then the end in episode five. It's so rare. It's for instance, they're back on the car. Made famous.

I know that was such a cool reference. I was like, yes, great reference. We speculate about it during the trailer. Was it a car?

Was it gonna be Yavin, which we got last week. Great to see it. Just an asset rebuilt around it. Great.

But making saw the one that has that old imperial, I mean, old rebel base makes it even better. Just all the people that had that secret base that would later help the resistance 30 years when I thought it would be so rare. But Paul Wilmann, Wilmann, Pat there, delivering stuff. I thought it was a bomb.

But just seeing all the parties and stuff there, first love the designs. I know Andor has gotten some flag. We're not having a lot of aliens in its. Yeah, some more aliens now.

These are the aliens everywhere, but especially with so-called red. I got a lot of two tools. That's gonna be one of my favorite recent designs. Just looks great.

His voice is great. He's awesome. But then we have this weird device that he brings out there and quickly so get rid of smelling it and talk about right down here, I'm standing right down here. Half of that fuel we can get.

And then let's make this guy in. So you can show him all the variations that we need to steal. Then slowly Wilmann starts noticing that there's something wrong, especially with the guy goes to talk to saw about. Yeah, I think I got it.

You can see in Wilmann's face. I think I got killed. I'm not gonna be left. But those things are so tension-filled, even when they first got introduced.

Hey, I'm here for the day and then I'm walking out. You're here to get what I want. Then you start feeling a little bit concerned for Wilmann at that point. No, because I am a saw truther and I think he would ever hurt someone for no reason.

So unless they betrayed him, then he would. But I'm like, well, man, he's fine. You're fine. I love the scene when he brings both of them to kind of go, is he ready?

I think so. Maybe and he pulls out the blaster. Do you think so? Or is he gonna tell me the truth?

I'm like, uh, neither. We don't know what's going on. And then kills the guy. Oh, Rebel, sympathizer was such meter, or plan, so rebel.

We're gonna be somewhere else. But everything is that speech that he gives to Wil at the end about his youth being on the run, being a prisoner, working around right down the room. Daniel is close, burning away. People starting to sweat and either you'll die from their insides slowly or you'll burst quickly.

But the revolution is not for the scene. We'll all be dead before the return of the Republic, which is basically the same thing that Luther and said in season one. Like I burned myself for something I won't see. But what I love a lot so anti-scenes particular compared to Luther and speech in season one is so it's out there.

He's boots on the ground doing it while Luther and it's in the background, which again, he needs to be there to be gonna move the pieces. Yeah. But Luther is the one that's actually doing it. I mean, sorry, it's out there doing it.

Like he tells Wil at the end, like, well, you're here. You're not with Luther and you're here. You're ready to fight. You're putting your life in the line.

What was that count? So yeah, we won't be there before the Republic is back. And yet here we are. We are the fuel.

We are the thing that explodes when there's too much friction in the air. We're the right old baby. But I think I've seen that like five times already. Like I'll be a sore through third if he told me that.

I'll take my mask off and poison myself. Every time I smell gasoline now, I like it a little too much. I'm like, saw was on something. I think as a kid, I did throw my window.

That's my question. You know, every time saws on the screen, you never know what to expect. I really didn't expect him to be like the poster for like, dare to keep your kids against drugs. But that's on my bingo card.

Now got to add it. But like, you don't know what's gonna happen. Even that scene since season one with Luther, when Luther and his ready to sacrifice trigger and those 30 men just so that the empire doesn't know that they are so one on the inside and so it's like, I'm the only one with clarity of purpose. I know what needs to be done.

I know how to do it. And now being there, hey, we're gonna still load the fuel that we need. We don't have to worry about it anymore. We're out here fighting.

We're gonna die at some point soon. We won't see the return of the rebellion. I mean, not the republic, but we'll be out here fighting and saying, hey, where do they want to have to do it? So we know they're gonna be causing mayhem soon because that spark that's gonna too much friction.

They're gonna be the ones that have to put the action into it. And we know all the way goes for saw about great character. Like I said at the beginning, first with a girl, don't change. Keep him.

Never change. If you want to keep bringing saw back, as long as he's willing to do it. Keep doing it. It's great.

It's funny because that scene of him in the first season where he's like talking about how he's the only with clarity of purpose and he brings up my pay and he brings up the form in front and it's like we're gonna see all of these little rebel causes and it's like only saws the one that's like doing it for the reason that it needs to be done. Not just for like their own inner purpose. It's even me which I watched the season one a couple weeks ago, I saw all those names go by and like okay, those names of rebel cells will never get to see them. And now slowly, I'm even watching that season.

This season, I didn't catch them just going back and watching his speech. Oh right. He mentioned my pay. He mentioned the go in front.

He knows. This is the perfect opposite to Luton. They're all going to the same. Yeah, that was in goal.

The same goal. He's the one that talked about not having patience. We just got to go and be forceful about it which is for some people is the kind of weakness. It's like he doesn't care if he kills a little few civilians as long as he gets to get a couple of imperials.

But at the same time, we're not pointing that you can't keep waiting for the empire to make a mistake. You might have to push the needle a little bit. All right. Yeah, we do like sometimes bug the smell of gasoline.

Smells good. Awake you up. Get ready for the day. You got no coffee.

Just go smell some right on. Yeah, right on. You're very poor. We all look at it.

It's going to transform into a new time or something. I know. He looked like he was literally struggling. I was like, oh, yeah, it's all must be built different because he was breathing that in like it was nothing.

Well, yeah, it's my sister. I love her. Yeah, you think I'm crazy? Yeah, crazy.

But we're here and we're ready to fight. Yeah, so self-aware. He's like, yeah, I'm pretty crazy. Yeah.

Other people are chasing for another reason. I will go to the current and art concern. We'll talk about Modma, Fairen, Luthan, Skald and all. Everything is going over there.

I love getting Modma playing politics. We don't see her too much, unfortunately. But now we see her trying to get votes, talking to all these other senators, trying to help Gorman through her policies or whatever. And people are saying away, like putting the name Gorman in front of anything right now might not be the way to go, which might be similar to something that's happening in real world.

When politics, there's no one to make a certain place in the Middle East, so I think about Palestine, because no one wants to put their name behind. Sometimes they show maybe a little bit in your face. But at the same time, you can understand what's going on. So, yeah, I think it resonates better because it's like, oh, yeah, totally get that.

I thought it was even more interesting that the representative from Gorman was like, I can't even vote. Yeah, I can tell him I can't even then they'll start talking in a show, which you see both sides, right? You want to help Gorman as one, we got to stop this PRD is public order resistance, the directive, any act against the empire is a class one of friends, which is what God cast in. Yeah, thanks, Casian.

But at the same time, we understand why I represent a different Gorman. I told my people to lay low because if we do anything, they're going down harder. And I don't want that for my people. But at the same time, you have the Gorman front saying how much longer can we just sit back and just wait for just do nothing.

So it's that double-edged sword of we got to do something about how much is too much, if there is a thing. But yeah, just making that connection of just saying that name Gorman connected to anything people won't listen to you, resonated a lot to unfortunately what's going on right now in Palestine, I guess. But you know, so are snappers not political, never been political. So we won't talk about war or not political.

Yeah, no, no. Oh, and of course, are we finding criminals or making them when they are going to have crime, have we found criminals or are we making people criminals again? Yeah, very similar to what's going on. Two on the nose.

Two on the nose. I just want my escape from reality. Well, in this step in this show, you can't you can't escape it. I love Clea.

I mentioned last week, Clea has become one of my favorite characters. She's the one that keeps Luther and leveled when he starts going out of whack. And that's it when she starts listening again, her huge table that I love wanted to sell that instead of like saying, it's one of this whole mixing thing behind me with all the knobs. But she listens that Skaldon found out that one of his art pieces is a forgery.

He wants everything then inspected right after this big outshod I was having. And that conversation with Luther and both of them going out and he's like, I told you this wasn't going to work. It's just bits and pieces that we're going to say like, are you done like this solves nothing? Like there's a problem.

We gotta fix it. He just wants to I told you so this sucks. It's like, who cares? Like what happened happened?

We gotta fix it. That's what I love about him. Like see whatever happened, it's in the past. We're not gonna move forward.

So I love that scene of her time to hate this shut up. Let me know. We'll do it at the art show. We'll take it out like I'm a weird key.

Okay. Yeah, she's like a bratty his bratty daughter that will not let him go too far off the edge. Yeah, she's like, put yourself together. We're gonna get out.

Yeah, it's I've stream all you up now. Get out of the way before we get in the car and then we are your fridge stuff. And I keep talking about Mothman, all the politics when she's in the Senate. We have this Oathkeeper just reading everyone.

I guess a new senator is doing their leg of allegiance and she just don't at that point. I can't be a part of this anymore. So I thought we're gonna get just forgot his name, the blue guy from me. I thought we were gonna get him that scene.

But no, I knew we were saying that. Or I wish he shows back up. Yeah, but yeah, he's named dropped a lot. But we haven't got a lot.

I mean, him and the emperor have been named. I don't think the emperor is showing up. Yeah, I don't think it's a cool guy to be there. It's a fun little club shadow.

Someone that's not a good love shadow anymore is Bello Ganna. And the big rickas people lose their mind. I got spoiled like two days before he showed up. But so Benjamin Brat is taking over the role of replacing Jimmy's mate, supposedly a scheduling conflicts.

That's fine. Do you care? Does it matter? Okay, let's move on.

I mean, I would have loved to have Jimmy Smith's because he's been bail and so many other properties. But I thought Benjamin was good. He looks like him. He's Latino.

So it's fine with me. Yeah, you're in Brat Pete or someone like that. Yeah, he was a white dude. I was like, we got our problems.

Everyone on the phone right now calling you representative. But it happens. Yeah, it's not the first time like, oh Bello Ganna, I posted it. He used to be, in fact, I managed to have his own white guy that they got his scenes.

They call him Bello and Tilly's just to have him. And then they got Jimmy Smith from Bello Ganna in episode two. And of course, he's been great. He wasn't going over a couple.

So he's there. If he couldn't be there for a reason, I doubt that it's because he didn't want to come back to Star Wars. He's been doing it for years. Maybe it really didn't work.

But this is a character that's very important for the rebellion. Yeah. So you have to have him. And if this show was three, four seasons, maybe they'll pull back on that storyline too later.

But this finishing up now, he wasn't available. That's fine. But I'm glad that Tony Giro came out and said, Hey, I put it in this episode. He had like three lines.

Just to get the conversation out of the way. Because coming down, yeah, it's going to be very important. Everyone's going to say what they want. It's fine.

One week when he's out in the Senate, turning the emperor to go show it. They don't be okay with it. But if you're going to get someone, Benjamin Bradley's family, a first name that pops into anyone's mind. Hey, we got to replace Jimmy Smith.

Who do you get? Bring Bridget. Let's make him even harder than it was before. I know, right?

But yeah, I mean, the little scene that he had was fine. They had a little Bray, or Ganna named Rob, hopefully we'll get to see her. And then we'll see what happens next week. He shows back up.

But yeah, again, I'm a hypocrite because I don't want to get rid of it. We play by anyone else. But I'm fine with the change. Often, Alan is here.

How are you doing, Alan? The emperor is still waiting for me right now to show up on Andrew. Oh, man, the emperor. It is so funny to see the emperor like doing those dance moves on Fortnite.

I posted something about the emperor Alan said, you just get to win him win the crown at the end. He's doing the green or something. Just doing weird dances. My son plays for a lot.

And he's playing now again with Star Wars. I got to watch out for the emperor doing all those for like dances and Vader and all those stuff. But I'm not happy with the fact that I request was needed. But if we're going to have on Benjamin, it's the only person who might be playing bell exactly.

It's like, do we need a request? We don't know if this story asked for it. But if you're not bringing someone, Benjamin Brad makes sense. He's a great actor, seems a part, keeping the family with those Latinos out there.

My friend, Brandon, is he doing Brandon? Hello there. All right. So let's go to that art scene.

And we'll go straight to it. And it's one month Mac confronting Krenick, which is something I never thought we're going to see. But what's a great scene. I love how much fun he's having playing Krenick this time around.

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