Rebellion is a built-on hub. I'm sure I can do this. Welcome to the rebellion. Welcome to the rebellion.
I'm Efren Rebellion. We're here back. I've been on every episode of Radio Rebellion, I was podcasting a host. I got a good weather on.
I got host out this bag. I know especially I guess for this week. It's been a while, but Andres Alberts from Sifte, me and us is joining us. How are you guys doing today?
Andres also with you, how are you doing today? Oh man, I'm doing great. I'm just living the dream. It's been lovely weather in Colorado, so we're not.
Oh nice. We're not drowning in heat or snow or rain or, you know, insert here. Yeah. So we're down here in Florida, apart from being Florida.
We had a big drought and it's been raining for the past two days. It's just going to keep going for foreseeable future. So it's not lovely over here. But Altye, how is it?
How is it? Where were you? And how are you? Most importantly.
You live in Florida. You don't have to say it's not lovely over here. We all know. I just want to use my turn to say A, I'm sick and B.
We have to find a word for what I've suggested. It wasn't a rage quid. It was more like a rage start to show. So just putting it out there.
That's inside baseball. We can't. I had a little discussion before we started. Our heads were in different places.
Not about Andor. I'm not saying that. Doctor who? Doctor who.
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Give us a comment on all our social media and all that stuff. All right. I'll tell you all my problem. I went to the movie theaters.
I saw thunderbolts. I didn't have to wait too long. Wait, no, no, no. Let's call it by its actual name as the marketing department has ruined for everyone.
Thunderbolts, it's that name. You can't call it. It's now the new Avengers. Just like a Pope Leo.
I can't call him Mr. Was it Robert Provost or whatever. Yeah. No more.
Pro something. But do I spend it with my daughter to tickets. One popcorn and two solar, that's 60 bucks. 64 dollars.
Was it a special popcorn at least? It wasn't a make you want to spend the IPX that they're doing in regular I match. No, that's just regular money. Cause I went in the morning.
Six dollar matinee. No, thank you. It used to be a country. I am pretty sure if I add up the receipt for my last three theater visits, including concessions.
I don't get to $64. I'm pretty sure. It was almost $16 for my ticket as a matinee adult. I know.
Sixteen dollars from that. No chaos. See, that is one habit that I'm grateful that the pandemic kind of like broke me off of. I think we literally since 2020, our family has only gone to the movie theaters like once or twice a year because, yeah, just two drinks, a popcorn.
I mean, yeah, literally like you mentioned about it. Like you can very quickly get to the cost of like a PS4 game and it's like a two hour movie and then you know, you go back home and you know, choose your streaming channel of choice like. I think we saw it on Hulu or something. You don't even need a super crazy streaming service to see some of these movies like a month or two after they go out of theater.
So it's like, I don't know. I'm still shocked with it. Like, I think the thing I'm going to miss the most important we go is how cheap the movie theater is in comparison to the States because like. Dude, I'm dreading when the new Jurassic World movie comes out because my son wants to go see that one.
I'm going to go see that one. I'm just going to theater. So that means my wife is going to be four of us. So she'll be over a hundred bucks from movie that I even know it's going to be good.
We might spend two hours on a crap and just shell out a hundred bucks. Yeah. I'm going to go and show you the movie theater business going out but it's impossible. Florida man sailing for the Jurassic World movie.
Yeah. I'm going to make a freaking movie. I will be a headline. Just watch.
I mean, because that's a hundred dollars. That's like a steak. That was date night, you know, and it's like for sale porn and like, I mean, I do a good font. So like a large font that like maybe that's like $20 of that experience, but like, no, no.
Yeah. So now you know what? Anyway, do you guys watch Tell us on the other world? We won't cooperate today.
We'll do another episode after Andor finishes. I watched the massage episode. Okay. Well, then I've seen them all and all I will say is I love the Cappane ones.
I did not expect. I don't want to spoil OT that much, but I did not expect way that they were going to go with it. Oh, okay. I'm going to add phones off.
I didn't expect them to have such a deweave name. Oh, yeah. I'm like, that's so great that like his entire arc is just like, he's a dork. All right.
It wasn't that big of it. We'll talk about it after Andor finishes his run. We'll make an episode about it. And then I finish into the lights.
So one more book for the Harry public and then we're done. I'm scared. I'll do a review for that one also at some point soon. But anyway, I know why people are here and what we're here, which is the talk Star Wars.
And if you guys already, I'm not ready. Let's talk Star Wars and Star Wars on TV. I'm not your film. Obi-Wan.
Star Wars on TV. Star Wars. Now. Now let's go Andor.
Season two, arc three was it two years before the Battle of Yavin. Everyone's been going nuts even before these started. I mean, before it got released, everyone that was able to watch these episodes earlier. The whole week, they were saying these are favorite.
You guys be ready. You don't know what you're going to be watching. This is the best thing through since your favorite movie here. I don't care.
Leave that to the expectation. But at the same time, just chill. You don't need to put all this extra pressure. I'm happy that you saw it.
Maybe I'm a little bit jealous. Just calm down. Don't give me so much hype for it. Let me just watch and then say all your things have been hiding for two months.
This is the best Star Wars since the previous Android. It's the previous, like. Yeah. It's just people having like, you know, imagine the best food ever.
And then like they're having a second bite of it. Like, no, no, no. Now the ribeye is better. It was a ribeye the whole time, like, it's going to be okay.
You can watch it again. Like it's not going anywhere. It's there forever. Just enjoy it.
Yeah. I just want to say I get it. Like imagine having watched this and not being able to talk about it. Like having anyone to be like, yo, I was going to be like.
Yeah, man. That's kind of how I feel about the last of us because no one I know played the last of us. So I've been like sitting with all these years and trying to like. It's an only great episode last week.
Oh, it was. I did watch that one. But for and or even if they came out and said, Oh, psych, it was a prank. It's actually nine episodes, not 12.
I'll be okay with it. Like this goes straight into Rogue one perfectly. I can't even imagine what is going to be for the next day to say, Oh, when you watch Rogue one is completely different. I don't even know.
So I'm so happy. I mean, happy. It's a weird word to say for this three episodes. But, um, and they can start with you just before we start with this last arc.
And there is a few men enjoying the first two hours of and or the series or this season in general before we go into this newest arc. Yeah. I've been, I've been enjoying the show. I'm still kind of torn about how I feel about the three episodes coming out all at once because that is something that I've been noticing as like more weeks go by.
Like I am grateful that the season technically ends next week, but like it is rough when it drops, especially for us like that we're talking Star Wars or like in our friend groups. We're probably the person that gets the texts from our friends of like, should I watch it? Should I not? So like there's this extra pressure of like, I need to watch these three episodes as soon as I can, even if it's not as soon as it drops.
But I have been enjoying just getting to see that resolution of that arc of like, okay, the third episode showing us the problem or the setup, the second episode is like progression, some things get closed up, but then there's like that bigger problem. And then the third episode is just like the third episode is always just like hype central. Like there's just so much that always happens in that third episode. So like, yeah, it's been, it's been fun.
It's just been a little bit rough as a Star Wars like analyzer, like, you know, person that has like weighed into and find deeper issues and stuff. Cause yeah, there's just not a lot of time to process so much plot and so much conversation and then be ready, you know, by Wednesday morning, by Thursday morning to have like full reason to out thoughts on it. Yeah, I'm glad that we do this show like four or five days afterwards. So it gives me time to watch the episode multiple times take all my notes, get all my thoughts straight.
I mean, I have to wear a dust days after the episodes throughout the next day, Wednesday, Thursday, because it is a lot and not just to sit there with your mouth open for two hours to have a conversation does take a lot of time. And it's also a problem that we got ourselves into is how to kind of blame the decided to throw three episodes on the gear road, even came out and say I'm sorry for all the podcast ourselves. They have to deal with this, but sorry, this is the way we're gonna go. But as he showed by the way, he should not be thinking.
I don't care a lot of these. So you're not required for every so sorry then that's on you. But I like that we get all three because I couldn't wait another week after they go on the massive after with a whole week for this. All the after you've been enjoying the three drop and then the one year in between.
Before I go, I just want to say we have someone you on the chat. Raccoonar? That's Raccoon. Oh, that's a nice.
Nice. That's the coolest thing ever. Anyways, so welcome to the channel. I like the three episode release as a person who likes to go to bed early.
It doesn't really fit with my schedule. I know someone who does their show hours after the if not minutes after the episode releases. It sucks. And also it's three hours.
I usually don't watch three hours of TV and I get home from work and two hours later I'm probably a bit. So yeah, it's been weird for me to not watch it immediately. But whatever, it's been good enough for me to suck it up. And I have gotten spoiled and I quite a bit, by the way, which kind of sucks.
Yeah, it's difficult. But I kind of just, even though I hate spoilers, I know they're going to be out there. Unfortunately, it's nature that we saw this moment. So if we go into social media, we got to expect this going to happen.
I'm just so so centered that I think everyone is as tired as me. Watch the whole thing at once. Yeah, I just especially in Star Wars fandom because like let's face it, we are one of the premier fandoms for like memes. So it's like, it's very hard to watch a show that has three episodes drop at once and not get like a, I think even of the last arc with a saw and there were so many memes about like, here's the Lutherans no concern for Bix.
It's like, don't take drugs. They're bad for you. Meanwhile, like like saws just in a random oil facility. Like, yeah, you got to huff the right away.
So, you know, that was my spoiler that I saw. I was like, oh, okay. So Saul's going to go off the deep end as he does. Like, and hey, on the right side.
Yeah, we're the right one. I love her. So arc three, the messenger or messenger, who are you? And welcome to the rebellion.
If you've listened to our recap episode this last week, we basically haven't gone episode by episode, but I think we'll do that for this arc at least. We'll jump back and forth to just part of how we do some less stuff. And again, Daniel Roy was the writer for these three episodes, giving some profit. Because everyone, of course, he was the Tony Gilroy for everything he's done, but some probably people out there.
Anyway, so we started Yavin. Yavin is in full rebel mode, which I love. Looked more like eight and close with all the woods and forest. I also thought I was at the Ewok village for a moment in Endor, but nice to see a different part, I guess, of Yavin already ready for battle.
But we see that people live there. Yeah. Because we've heard throughout the years, oh, but what's more in there? He was kind of raised there.
So like, we have never seen it. It's just been the station. Or one movie? Yeah.
And it's, they've said, oh, we're going to learn the history of Yavin. I don't know if we'll get more after this one. And I know people were just going all out with six temples or whatever. We'll get a little force in this episode.
We will build that far. But there is a little rift now between Luthen, Cassian, everyone on Yavin, when Wilma makes it back. It's all been questioned, basically. Where have you been?
This is here. I want to know where you were before. And there's been tension between where all this has been gone for a while and not wanting to tell and or where he's been for the past couple of weeks or months. And also it's building a little tension.
Then it goes later in the episode when we see, I guess in that same conversation that he doesn't trust Luthen the same way he did a couple of years before. Yeah, absolutely. Like you're seeing Wilma being more secretive. I imagine he's also still doing more work with Saw.
So like, that's where I was also like latching onto of like, okay, he's probably driving deeper into that level of rebellion. And for me, every time I see Wilma on, I just think like he, something has to happen there because we have to understand and or like the rebellion in Andor and Rogue One knows that they don't have a way to talk to Saw, right? Like both of you ends up being captured by Saw's rebels and all that's going on. And they turn to Jin specifically because they, you know, I think the quote is that like we need someone that gets us in the door without being blasted.
So it's like either something's going to happen to Wilma on or Wilma on is going to turn on, you know, like whoever Wilma on is reporting to has to view Yavin for such a big operational risk that it's just not worth talking to them anymore. And like, you're starting to see that kind of shift, right? Where Andor's like, no, we're fighting the Empire and Wilma on is like, sure you are, buddy. Like anyways, let me know when you're ready to actually blow something up.
But it's like, but Yavin is coming to life. Like they have call signs. They they're getting shipments coming in. They have people like telling them to come land here or go there.
So like, it's it's getting there. And then like they have their their their stuff together and it's starting to grow up. So yeah, I found that interesting of like they're they're definitely starting to show that rift and like they both are convinced that they're fighting the rebellion, but they're not sure who's right or who's doing a better job at it, if you will. Yeah, we're casting this basically saying, hey, we're building something here.
We need an army. We need to be more organized and Wilma and say, Oh, Luton, Alice is doing something. All you're doing is planning. Like you're actually not doing anything.
But I was surprised to see that Wilma was back with Luton. I thought he was a waste of, we saw here, right? So I was surprised that he went back. But when he comes back, hey, we need you to go murder Didra, which is showing her face in Goldman.
I mean, surprise that we were at that point. We need you to assassinate in the broad daylight. We were at that point. She's a psychopath.
It's really to kill up the whole planet. This is not about revenge. I think it is about revenge. Again, it doesn't have to be on revenge.
She's not going to kill an entire planet. That's what's going to happen. Yeah. I also wouldn't be surprised if like, because we know from a few arcs prior that Luton knew that Didra was working on the access file and whatnot.
And with everything heating up in Gorman so much, I think Luton is also like looking around the corner and he's like, all right, whatever's going to happen in Gorman, it's going to finish soon. And then knowing Didra, she's like the dog that is trying to catch the car. Yeah, she's going to go back to that. Exactly.
So like a part of me is like, is Luton just trying to think two steps ahead and he's like, well, she's so busy with Gorman, this could actually be the perfect time to like actually get rid of a competent ISB agent who has almost captured him or gotten close. Like she's one of the few agents that can see the connections and like, understands why he needs to be behind bars from the empire's point of view. Yeah. Oh, dude, Draven is back.
So happy to see Draven. And I love that little conversation he had with that. And like, dude, you can't just come and go as you please, this is in that place or cruise or whatever. He says, well, that day you tell me I need to repel where I'm going and all this stuff.
I won't come back. In two years from now, what I year for now, Draven is not telling forget why you heard in that meeting. If you see Gail, just killing right there and Cassian's like, no questions, okay. So it's to see where that relationship will go in one year, the year and a half.
It's kind of interesting, but you like seeing him back? I mean, I forgot his name. I was like, Hey, look, girl, one guy. But but yeah, it's cool that we're that's the promise of the season, right?
Like it's gonna tie directly into world one. So starting to like put that around and again, that same interaction that was interesting having Cassian that relationship being different Cassian being like, I mean, yeah, you need me more than any use. Whatever I want to like, Oh, ignore orders and do what's I know it's wrong. Okay.
So I get it probably has to do a lot with the aftermath of big sleeping and what does that's gonna do to him. Yeah. That's fair. And there's you like saying that little connection when he showed up and looking at everything on Yavin, like where's Chopper amazing something in the background?
That's the reason he's actually there's nothing else I think. Yeah, I think Draven was like the, you know, the highest ranking or like the coolest guy, you know, for if we're viewing Gavin is like a high school, like he is the jock on campus. I also find it interesting that he's like requiring like kind of, you know, how the empires doing like loyalty oaths and, you know, Cyril mentioned that Gormens are having to do that just to keep their jobs. Like I don't Draven to be the rebel version of that where he's like, everyone needs a reason to come.
They need a reason to leave. They need a reason to like, you know, land a ship wherever they're gonna land it. Like he's, he's trying to get the rebellion into the space of we're running an army. This isn't just like random people with shimsel or something.
Yeah. Yeah. Like he's really trying to like come down on the rebellion, which for me, I love Draven and Rogue One specifically because by the time he launches the operation on Edo, you can tell that a lot of the other rebel leaders are kind of sick of his shtick. Like my favorite, one of my favorite line deliveries in Rogue One is some other rebel leader just being like, Oh, general Draven already blew up in Imperial Bay.
It's just, it's layered with so much like this guy, you know, he's just running around doing whatever he wants. So you're, you're starting to see that because he's like, he's just writing everybody of like, no, this has to be done right. And I know the way that it needs to be done. So like, you know, it was nice to see him.
But I'm like, okay, I can see why people got sick of you in two years of like, we get a guy where we have to fight a war. Well, it's back. But it starts building that hierarchy inside the oven because when Vail shows up to talk with Bix, he's like, they're getting ready to promote in Draven though. Don't I got a name drop?
They're getting ready to promote him, but he can be pulling this stuff or just going and doing his own stuff where we've got ourselves from Looten. And all he is, they're free from Looten. I think of what she tells Bix is like, he needs to be here to help build this rebellion, I guess. Cool scenes inside the oven.
By the way, Bock is in the shot. Hey, Bock. Sure. I should have brought a better Star Wars shirt.
But I know right. But hey, no worries. I have some stories on limited cards. Oh, yeah.
I got a shiny Poe Dameron and then the Colossus for all my resistance. There you go. Oh, there you go. Oh, damn.
All the people doing an end of season two Q&A was here. I was doing an end of season Q&A about two days ago. Wow. Okay.
He got Q&A. Way more we question. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
I just can't wait for someone to like show like freeze a frame from this arc that shows like a baby in the background. It's like, that's Poe. Like, y'all didn't know. Oh, Star Wars thing.
There's very bad book about it right now. And Casio and I, the world pass him. I was trying to stop Bicks from leaving. I think that's how it goes.
By the way, but it's right. So we got a little bit of misticism of the force inside and or with this force dealer that shows up out of nowhere. Casio and his hurts. Bicks is trying to help him out.
Takes him to this cook. I'll be there later. Yeah. But basically what I love about this, again, connecting to Rock One and two Jada that will go, I think in the next arc we'll see Jada.
But big thing about Jada is this all the force religions are there on different peoples beyond the force. And this force dealer kind of fits right there. So I like that it connects to Star Wars connection rock one without being a fool on Jada. I just survived for the 66.
I might be, maybe she did. And then I was in our cook. I heard a lot of people had a very similar reaction to what I had, which was like, Oh, right, before this is Star Wars. I feel like the story group told Tony Gilroy, like you have to have one force.
We are begging you Tony Gilroy. You need to have a collaboration the first season that didn't play into it. And now we are the four sealer. That's right.
That's right. I do love the idea of like she's kind of cool. Like it's not, you know, Gilroy's not leaning too much into it. You know, there's that comment about like that and or makes it like Marva basically shoot off the last four sealer that came near the family.
I love that exchange. My mom hated it for sealers. Marva hated a force here like 10 years ago. They're all the same.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
There's just like a blue head. Yeah. Like no, we don't need that in our lives. Yeah.
And then we're going to be talking about the jungle. We got a little bit of witchcraft there. It makes sense. Yeah.
But it then kind of refers to him as a messenger that he's kind of taking in everyone's problems and guilt or anything just kind of building towards something. And then all messenger he helps deliver the message in rock one. So it was a fun thing to add to and all that kind of doesn't run with the show but feels 100% star was already not really vibrant. The design that close she was wearing.
The way that lighting was kind of placing that scene. It felt like, oh wait, I'm watching something from 77 to 83. So it was a cool scene. Yeah, I agree.
I don't need any new comments in the chat before we move on. You don't need to read everything. I'm sure you pockets like 20 comments there. No, I said something about shiny boat everyone.
Oh, yes. Shiny hollow. Oh, oh, it's a foil. Oh.
So yeah. Can I stand right in the shower, baby sitting in a tree? Yeah. All right.
So let's talk now about the Senate. Some of the Senate scenes and how they connect to what's happening in this first episode. I love how they said it now. It's basically turning to that TSA.
They have metal detectors. If you want to go in everything, shut down the government representative. I love that the scholarship that conversation he had with one month, basically thanking her for everything she's done and put her head on the line, her neck on the line, which I think is the first time she's heard from anyone that is in Luther and anyone that's in the rebellion. Thank you for everything she's been doing for the past three years, even more I guess since the end of the century.
I think that took her a little bit of a surprise. I love that someone at least acknowledged, hey, thank you for everything you've been doing. Sorry, I believe you. I'll hear you.
Thank you. Yeah. Or like you can tell, you know, because the conversation starts with Mon and this senator or ambassador, like they also make it clear that he's not like a full blown. Yeah.
Senator, so like Gorman has lost some of his political power in this year. And you know, kind of noting that, you know, this is the point of no return, like things are getting worse. The ambassador makes a comment about they're not even bothering to lie badly about what's going on or what they're doing anymore. So yeah, it was like a very like it was nice to hear that.
And another part of me was like, this guy's probably like kicking himself at night because like she asked for his help in the last arc to like try and push back in the Senate. And he's just like, no, like that's the last thing we want to do right now. We don't want to make the Emperor mad. And like here we are opening up on this arc.
And it's like, all right, here was this guy trying to like toe the line and keep his head down for his people. And it's not getting better. Like congratulations, you played yourself kind of energy. So yeah, it was also like just kind of sad in that way of like he's thanking her, but he knows that he could have probably done more.
No, if he had known that the end result was still going to be that the Empire was going to take more power and kind of humiliate the Gormans even more, even as he's trying to get them to like stay calm and play by the rules and everything else. Yeah. Well, then we go to Goldman. Everything has changed in this last year.
There's checkpoints to go in and out of the class. I went to go into the hotel. You need to check in with someone reporters over there reporting all the terrorist attacks and the bombing that are happening all these terrorists from Gorman. And then we go to the government front and there's some infighting.
Some people want to just, hey, peaceful protest. We got to keep doing what we're doing. And others are like, we've tried this. It's not working.
We got to go full on. Which is by the way, which is not by a lot of what actually happens with these groups. They agree on what they want to achieve, but they don't agree on how they want to achieve it. And you have some of them who are accelerators, who are like, let's try to slap them and see if they kill one of us.
And that way he's a martyr or they're a martyr. And the rest of the galaxy will sympathize and everyone will wake up. And there's ones who are, no, the way we do this is by just constantly applying pressure. And who's wrong?
Yeah. History has shown that maybe both are wrong or maybe a little bit of both are right. So, so yeah, that was interesting and just seeing how it all is completely escalating from just we're just hanging out here to like, no, we control everything else. Yeah, we'll keep talking about the empire.
Also, something we've been seeing through the whole season. It's the different pockets of rebel fighters out there that we do have the Maya pay, regrade that didn't know what the hell was going on. The government front wanted to start but not really knowing how to, so get rid of just going nuts or now inside the government front, which is again, fighting for the same goal, two different versions of how to go through it and then connecting to their representative for the ambassador. It's, yeah, we need to do something.
But if we do too much, it's gonna come harder on us. And that's why I love violence, you know, the leader of the government front. That's like, hey, no, we got a peaceful resistance. It's the way we need to keep going because I think it's gonna go bad for us.
Later in the episode and in the second episode, kind of figure out like, no, this is what they been planning for so long. We got two new additions to the front. Old Teo Clerk has joined the front and then LaSine, I think his name is the guy that first was fighting, kind of doing the little arm grab. Kind of cause, seeing that we shot accidentally is not part of it.
It's his fault. I'll never forget him. He's there now, kind of leading everything. Kind of responsible.
It's on him. He grabs her, takes it to the truck and then now joins them. It's kind of leading, not leading but kind of pushing part of it. But I love what he says here and says, hey, we already go, we can't, I don't care if we put Rose Petals down, if we go in John's blazing, we can't let them change who we are because then we're lost.
If we let them take that away from us, what's worth saving. And then this place and I'm jumping out to episode eight when he's the one that starts doing the government national anthem, he's like, now we gotta keep to who we are, we can't let all these people inside us towards going on. I love that we have two new additions, especially the hotel employee. I know that he's there.
Yeah. Especially because his dad had died in the Target massacre. So it's like, he made that comment to Andor in the last arc of just like, oh, I never, I didn't go too far. And now here he is like, now he's an adult and things are getting worse in Gorman.
And he still hasn't gone far from kind of where his father physically was. So yeah, there's a lot of symbolism in there and just that feeling of like he is owning that rebellious or that like Gorman spirit of just like, no, this is my planet. These are my people like, we're in it together kind of thing. So last week, when they mentioned, oh yeah, talking about here, he parked his ship on top of 500 people.
I'm like, Jesus Christ, how can a massacre be worse than do it? Is that the massacre? They kill 500 people and they know it's gonna get worse. But we get now to deal with us over there.
She's a gold man. She's talking with us. And part of us like, okay, like we've done our part. The emperor is done waiting.
So we're gonna go with the real plan. And yeah, the fleet is 48 hours away. So get ready. We have a crisis specialist coming in Captain Kaggle.
Oh, I heard they had a fleet coming in. I got scared. I'm like, oh, no, this is gonna be bad. Yeah.
I think that's the thing with this. Sorry, what makes it so interesting? Like, we knew what was gonna happen. We knew we didn't know exactly how it was gonna play out, but we knew that the Gorman massacre is what causes Mon Mon to leave the Senate and the, you know, publicly announced the rebellion and the Civil War for me.
And I love episode eight because it's just like a guitar string, just slowly stringing. You know, it's gonna break, but you don't know when and you don't know. And what? No, it's gonna.
So, yeah, I don't know what the original question is, but that's my answer. I did run there part of the situation saying, hey, we're ready. We did your part, we're ready to move forward. Poor Cyril and there is, can't even get through the door before being stopped.
Did not give him information. She's like, oh, outside, that's what I'm here. You send me to find outside, you can't give me one little bit of what's going on. Yeah.
And then she gives in a big kiss and he kind of forgets about it because that's the woman with green switch in a couple of hours. Go ahead. Something nice to me. Yeah.
Yeah. Go watch the Star Wars. But yeah, it's Cyril, you start kind of feeling conflicted about because, yeah, like, you know, he thought he was doing one thing when he was getting played like a fiddle, but like the acting here really sells that like Cyril can't understand what is actually happening. He doesn't, he can't bring himself to believe that he's been played, that like there is a bigger play here and like once the empire roots out these, you know, nasty rebels, then like Gorman can go back to making fabrics and whatever.
It's like, he really bought into it. And I think even the, the, the father, right? Cause he's walking around the streets and Cyril bumps into him after he's done talking to Detran, you know, he's just, he's just like, you can still believe the words coming out of your mouth, like you're so bought into the propaganda that you can't imagine that you're being played. There has to be a noble empire somewhere out there.
And the Gorman's just understand that the empire is going to do whatever it wants. And Cyril just can't believe that the empire is evil. Like he's just, he's not willing to cross that bridge because his lover works for the empire and he always wanted to be in the ISB and like, you know, power and respect. So like it's kind of heartbreaking to see it in the sense that you're watching someone in full blown denial.
And it's like, no, the leopards are eating the faces, man. Like you have a front row seat and you still can't admit it. So yeah. What's a bit of a price when right after he has a conversation with Detran, he goes and finds Mira, I think I mess up the name that the other ones were the government front.
And he's like, oh, yeah, I think we can still kind of find a way to play around. I said, let's shut the fuck up and just lapse him across the face and get away from me. And nothing to do with it. And he's like, oh crap, I'm kind of messed up on both sides.
I can't do anything with the empire, right? I can't help the people of Gorman because I've kind of played them without knowing. It's kind of super poetic, by the way. The one thing that the bridges he burned are the bridges that could have gotten him out of the situation.
And he burned them because of the situation. So it's all sorts of fun. Or like he thought that Detran was always going to bring him into the inner circle, right? Even when he was in that meeting with her and part of Gaz, right?
Where he's like giving intel reports and kind of acting all like, oh, I'm an important part of this mission. You don't realize you're just a tool, man. They're literally just using you. Yeah.
He just thought he was going to get a nice shiny ISB uniform and become like director Krennicks, note taker or something after this. It's like, no, man, we just needed you to start a riot. Thank you for your service. Now go back to the Bureau of Standards or whatever.
It's like fuel purity. You check your purity. Dumb guy. And I know we've been seeing Imperials for all of it, but just seeing stone troopers inside Gorman kind of just made it feel real.
And this is Star Wars and at this point, so it's pretty scary. It's like, oh crap, they're getting ready to actually go down. It's not just some ISB people just working up and down the streets. It's actually stone troopers are there.
And then this takes us to episode eight. Who are you? Let's just go. It's like, oh, like you mentioned, the guitar is doing getting twisted, tighten it a little bit since it begins.
And then music through the whole season, this arc was great, but keeping within pretty little bit, it feels like did at the same time, it's realizing that she's getting played also by part, I guess, and everyone. And every time she gets agitated, he's like, calm your nerves, like respect. If you can just, he wrote it down somewhere. Oh, control your, you seem animated.
You seem animated. You seem a lot to kill everyone. And you seem animated. You seem animated.
You seem kind of straight and everything out. What? No, go ahead. I did her, that draw is such a fascinating character.
She is evil, but I think she has a heart somewhere in there that is desperate to puke out of her and be like, oh, he's doing it. But she won't let it. And I think it's eating her alive. And I think it's going to make her an even worse person.
The one character I want to know where they are next arc, it's her. What is she doing? Like what did this do to her? I mean, we see at the end of this episode, she's trembling, she's shaking.
She needs to take a moment to kind of compose herself, then straight to her jacket and everything. She knows that what just happened is wrong. And we haven't seen that from her. It's like between the school character, always frowning or constipated or whatever.
And it's, when she says that's how people can destroy it, we can take it's goal. Yeah. We had this mining rigs over there. The empire lost mining and just blaming everything.
And mining disaster. Yeah. And she's like trying to, you know, like hedge her bets with party guys where it's like, oh, just chronic want the rumor of these, of this mining equipment running around. Like that's not very empire of us and party guys.
It's like, don't worry about that. No one cares anymore. She's like, you know, the rebels might have weapons and he's like counting on it. So it's like, she's almost, you know, kind of becoming like zero two words.
Like this could go bad guys and party guys and everyone else around her is just like, duh. Even kind of, I know, right? Like, he's like, all the troops you gave me are like children. They're young.
They don't know what to do. And like, all the other officers are like, you can rot an imperial jail if you don't want to do it. And like, you know, they're all kind of like nervous because it's like, this isn't very empire of us. You know, we shouldn't be putting people in these situations.
And then everybody who's above their pay grade is like, no, we want this to go bad. I don't think Lord Vader would agree that what we're doing is correct. But there's more also very important. Right.
The HR department is not pleased with what's happening on Gorman. Oh, yeah. There's setting up barricades that news keeps running reports that there's rumors about protest, protesters running around very similar to, I don't know, daily life. But again, it keeps building all this notion, not this notion of creating this scenario when the people of Gorman are just trying to have a bunch of terrorists ready to go at it.
This imperial propaganda has been working because they've been setting up for about a year now. And then every time they send it, oh, no, they send one of those people, they're getting ready, everything's powder cake like they love to say. And we're there. We're ready to see what happens.
So Cassian arrives. Wilmo has a girlfriend all over the southern. He just doesn't run from busy man. He's a busy man.
Tishing so how to still feel, not dying from it, breaking Cassian. I think it's the one that's been pushing the Gorman front to be more active. Because he's the one that makes bonds, spent too much time with Solia. Right.
I think he's the one that was not pushing them, but kind of training them on how to move forward. Now we're here. And Cassian goes out there. He goes to the hotel to check in.
The guy's like, OK, you've got to carry your bags. Kind of OK, we're in the same thing. And he dropped the line. He said the thing out of nowhere.
We're really able to know. I love it because I wasn't expecting it. It came from the least character you think was going to mention it. Yeah.
Out of the blue. I think it worked perfectly. We made it to see the origin of this sentence. But it came out.
I love it. I love the story of why it ended up there. Like Tony Gilroyd saying that his son is a star. Was mad at me like, where did Cassian hear that from?
And Tony Gilroyd being like, I don't know. And his son would be like, well, you better figure it out. Which is one of the things that Cassian just came up with it, which also works. We wrote one, but no, everything they saw have a story about.
I think that adds that unique Star Wars flavor, where it's like, you know, there's always like some stupid story or like background words. Like if you really look at Star Wars a little too closely, it starts becoming like a comedy thing. And like this creates a backstory that's just like, where's that line from? It's got to be looted or someone's like, it was a bellhop.
Like it was a Tuesday. Things got worse that day. And like, he just kind of spit it out and and was like, oh, I'm keeping that one. Like, you know, you could tell once he got back to the oven for you.
It was just in his little notebook. Like, the hell in the peltan. Oh, my God. Dude, it's not like that.
Like, we saw it that came up once in the Phantom Menace. And then no, he saw this way from the high republic, because one character came out with research. Because Star Wars, like, you mentioned, we got to find the original stupid stuff. And then Matt knows it 30 years later.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's how we love it. Because it's so dumb.
Again, Andrew is not a dumb show. But it's kind of dumb things inside that we can make fun of. I'm fine. Yeah.
I just love that it's from a bellhop. And yeah, because then that also like adds weight to like, gin to everyone else who's like, what can I do? I'm just to insert whatever. Like, gin is just an imperial prisoner at the start of Rogue One.
And here's an door like believing of like, look what a bellhop could do. Look what I did. I was just a kid from Canary. And I just made the wrong move and accidentally killed someone on more one-on-one, five years ago.
So yeah, we can all do this. So like, yeah, it's serious. And at the same time, when it came from the bellhop, I'm like, weird, man. Like, I was checking in at like a motel eight.
Someone just drops all this wisdom on you. And you're like, dang, man, you're just, I just came for the continental breakfast. But I'm leaving with so much more. And it's actually had a very similar experience to this.
OK, here we go. Do it when I was when I did my exchange trip in Spain. I remember when we went to Porto in Portugal. We stayed at this hostel.
That's what I thought. And it was empty. So we slept in a room for 18, but it was just me and my roommates. And we would stay up at night, like super late talking to the owner who was a British man that lived there.
And he was just like talking about live, talking about history, the history of Europe, the history of the world. And it was fascinating. So yeah, those things happen. I'm early.
Yeah, you know. We never learned the same. We just called them Sir William, just because we were. Yeah, both.
Well, Sir William, 20 years later, I don't know how long ago. I saw the hostel. Last time I went to Portugal. But I hope he's OK.
So part of my show now, so it lives on your story. It's lived on here. I was like, oh, it's so beautifully. I think I was going to tie to the Christmas special.
It stays in the hotel for a year. It's not for sure. So the governments, they're all the plazasas open. They think they think they're happening.
They finally opened the plazas. Let's go, Maric, and Cassians like, no. They're sitting on barricades. Don't come over here.
Things are going to get hot. And no, no, no. Everyone's going over there. Very similar to Fred.