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S10 EP12: Review: Andor Season 2: Series Finale

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The Rebellion is born as Andor season 2 comes to an end with the final arc of the acclaimed series. Did it deliver a satisfying finale and in its connections to Rogue One?Oti https://twitter.com/EPEstarGuars - https://bsky.app/profile/epestarguars.bsky.socialBad Wolf Broadcast https://twitter.com/BadWolf_fni - https://bsky.app/profile/badwolfbroadcast.bsky.socialLink Tree: https://t.co/QiW944JnUG?amp

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Compression cycle, low spark cost, abbreviated chain, too short for me to code it. I'm guessing it's something you've memorized. Rebellion's a build-home help. And welcome to another episode of Radio Rebellion, Star Wars, what?

Yes, I'm your host. I'll bet I'll go there on. Over there, Psycho Host, R.T.1, Kenobi. I don't know, it felt like these three episodes that we just introduced to Radio Rebellion, without a secret radius over there contacting the rebels.

It felt fitting for our show. R.T., we've reached the end of Andor, we're gonna get to that in a minute, but how are you doing today? Thanks for joining us. On a Friday, we have Life Happens.

I'm gonna do it tomorrow, too many things, so that's what we need today. Hello, I couldn't do it tomorrow either, so... That worked out perfectly. Yeah, it worked out perfectly.

Thanks. With that said, last week I mentioned we were gonna have, I guess, a couple weeks earlier, and I was gonna be here. Obviously, it's not here, so I don't want people to think that I was lying. We don't give a mike, it's right here.

So it's right there, the camera's not working. Unfortunately for her, oh, it's great for her. She's out of the country, in a different country right now, work related to it, but she couldn't make it with the time change. But she said that she couldn't be here, but hopefully we'll do something, in the summer, probably in June, we'll do something with her.

And she'll be back, but for right now, it's just us, and that's fine. I tell you what, I love your gay selector shirt, Otty. It looks awesome. Thank you.

With that said, you know what I received, I've been holding, I don't know how I've been able to do this, but I'm probably having my hands right now. Oh, you got it? It's definitely right there. Congrats.

I can just scroll to the last page and tell you everything that happened. I'm in the start reading? No, I'm finishing my, actually, I'll have it open right here, my review of Into the Light. I'm like 75% done.

I hope to have it over the weekend. And then probably I'll start really. So thanks to Random House Worlds for the review copy. And also to Random House Audio, they sent me today audio files for a rogue planet, which is an Obi-Wan and a very young Anna King adventure where he's like 12 years old.

I've never heard of this book. And also Shadows of the Empire, which I've never read. I'll finally be able to dig into it. So thank you to Random World Audio, Random House World Audio.

But this is when the burnout starts, like I have three books waiting for me. I have to do review for all three. I'm going to take it slow, but I need to get into it. But everything is going to be trous of the Jedi.

I'm like, you know, sorry, hopefully I'm not able to. Anyway, I'll take it. There's no good. How's it going?

I am. What's out there today? Brandon is in the chat. Brandon is saying hello there, gentlemen.

I am so beautifully emotionally drained by this incredible series. It truly has enhanced the story of Star Wars and we are all better for it. That we are, Ben. Yeah.

It sounded like you were really in the crawl for Star Wars movie. But that was on purpose. That was my question. I can't go away.

Oh, let me try. Yeah. No, I'm not. Thank you, Brandon.

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I'm just going to say, I posted on Spotify and then it goes to everyone. What Spotify is now shaming everyone by putting the number of plays that they get. Then they course correct. And now you have to get 50,000 plays for them to display your...

You're listening wherever. Honestly, I think there's not that many podcasts. Is that good? More than 50,000.

No, exactly. When I got that email today, 50,000, I'm like, who's getting that? I'm just going to show you some of the big Star Wars. Yeah.

Don't get 50,000 listens. And as we 50,000 on the Spotify app, if they listen on Apple, it doesn't count. For God. Anyway, thank you.

I run this listening to a J0rogan clause. Yeah. And I'll say thank you, Spotify, for hosting our podcast, where you do drop it. Anyway, let's go to Star Wars.

We're here to Star Wars. And if you guys are ready, I'm not ready to stop Star Wars and Star Wars on TV. I'm not your film. We'll be one.

Star Wars on TV. And we'll be one. Star Wars now. And what our revolution it was, after, I don't know how many years that Andrew came out about three years ago, we finally come, I've come to the end of the season, end of the series.

We're going to get, of course, we'll go through it. We'll ask for this. Who asked for this show for a character that we know he's paid already? Who cares?

And now most people, because of course, there's a little grief there's out there that hate everything. And I feel like it's fine, but a big majority of Star Wars fans are now praising this, whatever way they want to go if it's currently the best thing ever or the best thing since it's last Star Wars. So this is what Star Wars should be going forward. I'll give me all these stories about play, I'm on MoTma.

Great series. Very good finale. What were your thoughts on this last three episodes before we go into detail? I know you just watched them recently.

So you, I don't know how you made it. No, I've been working a lot. I really haven't had the time to sit down with it. So I watched it last night.

I was just going to watch the one episode and watch the rest of the day before the show, of course. And I ended up watching like 20 minutes of Rogue One after once because I watched it all. It wasn't amazing. It really was amazing.

I think it's one of the best series closers I've ever seen. I feel like last episodes, like the last, the period start, the third one was a lot of the culmination of everything the show was building to. And this was one of a send off and a bridge to the movie and to where all these characters we know eventually go. And I was aware that that was probably what it was going to be because last three episodes felt like a climax to the show.

So I was worried that this was going to be like, and this is what happened to bigs and this is what happened to this guy and that. But I was just so surprised that it wasn't that. Like the show just told this last story of this character is it just happens to take place the day before the movie we know. And it also happens to take place like a week before the Civil War starts.

So I really like that. I love that it felt a little bit like the born movies, like everything with clay, I go in through the buildings and then the extraction mission, which is of course Tony Gilroy's masterpiece, the born movies. So that was fun. And I was also like finishing it and being like, I want to watch a Star Wars movie.

Cool. Like I was very happy with it. Yeah, I think what you said, there is the way to go into that. Like every kid didn't feel like this is where we character ends up, even though we did get a lot of solutions.

But it's like every character that gets introduced since season one was special season two, like they get a whole arc. And you find the end of that arc for a bunch of those characters in this last three episodes. It doesn't feel like, oh well, that's an open end. Why didn't they do that?

What character? This character was wasted. Like every single character. Like five or six episodes ago are now main characters and they all get a full arc to go through it.

Honestly, when I watched it on Tuesday, which I watched all three episodes, which is only the second time I've done this, I was a bit underwhelmed because I think I was like, you said, like all this is definitely not a lie. It's going to be a big thing. So I was, I guess my expectations were a little bit different, but that's why I didn't post anything and said, let me just sit with it. I think it's going to be one of those things that remind them here when I watched that couple out here on Doctor Who, then I finished like that.

It's not my favorite, but when I think about it has some of my favorite moments. So I think it's going to be like that. And then when I watched it on Wednesday, again, all three back to back. And like, oh crap, each episode keeps getting better and better and went straight to Rogue One.

I was just going to watch the beginning to see how it ties in. I just watched the whole thing. And then you start picking up how everything connects and everything. But again, this morning, I was like, no, this was a great center factor.

So it does set it's a set of for Rogue One, but not a kind of bit by bit. This is how we get to everything that happens is every character is journey and decision to get to that point. So in that sense, I do agree it's one of the better finalists. And I think having that three episodes set up that they did, that wasn't too sure at the beginning did work to tell that.

This one. Oh, yeah. And I think that's the first episode, like it's literally like an hour and a half, but we cut every 30 minutes. And that's when I went to Rogue One, the first third of that movie blows by.

I like this whole like, I think we really need to talk about this. Right now or later? No, no, no, no. We need to talk about the episodes.

But I think we should talk about the Rogue One experience. All right. So let's go ahead and start with again, out for their series finale, make it stop, who else knows and Jada, Kyber, also will do similar with Don before we'll kind of mix and match everything. Hey, but I think like with this, I mean, again, we'll do it however you want, but I think this arc specifically, like, I think this is by far the one that flows for each group of characters, the best from like episode one to episode three, because they're all over the place in the other ones.

But since this is all happening, everything at the same time, like I think it flows like beautiful. Yeah. So let's start with the flashback, which I know is a little kind of weird way to start with, but I love it. I know flashback in Star Wars or that taboo.

Do you do them? Do you don't? Are they going to add to the story or detract masterfully done? Let's try that, tying and forget the word.

So say, well, it enhances the story that's going, that's the telling. So everything that's happening in flashback informs White Clay is making every single decision. Before, even before we get to the flashback, a lot of that we got that little scene that they have living quarters inside of their gallery, when that opens, they get a place with the stakes where we should already come in other with the wicks and all that. That's where they leave, basically.

Yeah. So just as they get set up and I'm jumping, it's not part of the flashback, just getting ready to go meets with learning and they're like, I think we would use stop all our perfect, like, whatever happens happen. Because Lonnie triggers like a secret ultra, important emergency alarm. Yeah, that's the bottom, basically.

Now, whenever, but we find out that Luthen, which was an original name, used to be a lieutenant with a Sergeant Lear with the Empire. We don't know where, what time period. Was it the Empire? I don't know.

That's what I'm not sure. I kind of saw something that they had, Mottrooper armor, which kind of looks like it. I mean, they haven't said what it was. I took that as a Cold War thing.

Non-Republic army. Yeah. I thought it was part of the Separatist War. I couldn't kind of point out what side he was on.

But he's basically being traumatized right now. They have people on a far in line just getting executed. That's when he starts to really make it stop, make it stop. And then we find out that Clay is hiding inside the ship.

It's family's being killed. Yeah. Great way to start, or to make that introduction, I guess, to the character of Luthen, we had no idea why he was so into this rebellion. How Clay I got into it knowing that she was.

Like, we literally knew nothing about Clay. She would just stand on the corner and brood. That's the worst thing is people I saw last week, people thinking that Clay I was actually going to be Leia. And just think that they...

I respect people and their opinions, but that's the stupidest theory I have ever heard in my entire life about anything. And there's multiple people, no one that we know, just people read to it. I don't care if it was anything though. That's the stupidest theory I have ever heard.

It was really bad. I mean, we got to the other one at the end of the street. Oh, they look like it would be a perfect set of for Leia anyway. But then we get this relationship.

Every other brunette in Star Wars. At least they didn't say what's very small. That would have been actually made sense. We better, yeah.

But then we see how this relationship catastrophic, how it worked. They're selling out all this antiquities, all these artifacts that he had. Maybe he plundered them, doing his war attacks and just trying to get rid of them. And then Clay every end that went to, you know, haggle with the prices.

Being the way we need more money for this and then seeing how she gets more into the rebellion, knowing that the Empire, Separatist, the Republic, where we were at that time murdered her family. And then we're doing that other planet, seeing the same thing. And he's like, I'm leaving you behind, but you can see how she starts building that armor and gets that hatred to the Empire. And it all leads to Naboo and a bomb in over there.

Yeah, I love that whole thing with, oh, I'm your daughter now. Well, when it's at the meeting. When it's, when it's, when it's, um, and also that conversation they have after the firing squad where he's like, oh, that anger that you have, I put it away. We're gonna lose a lot, but at the end we're gonna win.

Yeah, just when are we gonna start fighting back? We already started, but we're gonna lose. I'm gonna kick losing until we don't just borrow that anger. It's a great way to have that relationship.

Yeah, it's not a foreign door relationship. Are the equals not really? And also him giving her the chance, I guess, to walk away when they're on Naboo. And she's like, oh, just doing this.

No, this is a choice. If you wanna press it, press it, but take a moment. Take a look at the people around you and decide if this is the life you want to live without having to give all those words. And I do love that.

He gives her the chance. I want to see somebody like, okay, not yet. Yeah, I just needed to know. Yeah.

And then training her like, look away. Don't look at what's gonna happen. Don't give it away. Just look at me explode.

Now look and react. Do you think that word move was a code word for something? I mean, I don't think it's relevant. It shows over.

We can talk about it. I thought it was relevant. He did tell her to move and they're having that conversation about learning and going to meet. And then he repeats that in the flashbacks.

But I couldn't find how it relates to what's going on at the end of having to pull the plug on pull the stuff. Move. Let's get out of my way. But again, I great use for the flashbacks.

I don't think it's like in Spanish. Why are they? Like when maybe your mom is asking you to do something, I'm like, yeah, yeah. She's like, move.

Yeah, I did get it that way. But when he in the flashbacks says when I tell you to move, move, I tell you something to it. All right. All right.

I can just pull in a straws. So let's go ahead to talk about I have it as an imperial deconstruction. Everything starts falling apart. The Loney Young came in clutch.

A character that in the first season came out of nowhere as the ISB spy. We got a little bit within the beginning of the season kind of moving pieces or trying to be friends of the imperials. Slowly going up the ranks. Dude, he got everything.

He's the one. We got to give it up to Loney. I was surprised that he was the one with all the information. He just said, let me just hack into Didera's computer files or get her access code.

He did the same thing that, or the beginning. I love that whole thing that I call all came from Loney and how fragile that information was. Like if the empire was like half more competent, then they are, they would have probably killed Loney and the information would have never gotten. They found out because Didera was copied on an email basically.

So you got to forward to war and check out the information. So you got to put it in the end. Yeah, exactly. It's so stupid.

The empire. You're the one that usually says they're incompetent and everything. They do the most important thing ever. It's not that bad.

Arrogantly incompetent. It's like when Anders says, you're just walking like you belong. It's for them, it's nothing. They think that nothing's going to hurt them.

But he said, hey, I need safe passes for my family. We've done all this. Where are you taking me? I'll give you the information.

They're coming after you. They're going to come after me and get me out of here now. They fucking killed him right then and there. I knew it was the good.

I don't think there was any other scenario where Loney would make it out of life. I'm surprised my mom made it out of life. Oh, darmer. Yeah, too.

I was surprised. I'll say I was pretty surprised that he died at that point. Not that he didn't make it, but that he died on that. No, I'm surprised Luton killed him.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. At the end game.

I had to build some attention on that whole episode and the whole series that I character that's basically saving the rebellion gets killed by one of their own. But understand, cannot go through everything that Moatma said in the previous talk. I'm more afraid of you now because if they catch me, I'm more dangerous than anything. He didn't want Loney to give everything up.

I don't know what Loney said. What do you tell them? What do you tell them? Yeah, because he asked him the last thing we hear is what kind of weapon Loney?

And we don't know what he told. I mean, but I don't think they know it's a planet killer. Oh, no, that's for Roegorn. Roegorn.

Yeah. Which I think is a great way to then connect the end of this series to Roegorn and how the information got there. Well, anyway, Goldman Scary, we're up on Galen Erzo. It's everything that he's telling Clea.

Don't worry. I'll go deal with that. You get out of here. I'll burn the shop.

That's right. Okay. It's not making it up. Why is the old man going to do that work?

Yeah. No, I knew he was gone. Like how the episodes started to develop. I was like, okay, he's not going to make it.

So we finally got the confrontation after years and years. Did the show stop at the shop when they rang the bell? Did you know it was her? Of course I did.

I knew because I remember that shot. I don't remember the shot. I think we talked about it right now. Yeah.

There's a shot of her on the galleries. Okay. It's three episodes of her. It's probably her.

I love that when she rings the bell. He looks at her from outside of where he was. Kind of. But then he still puts the whole facade of Smite.

Oh, welcome. We're open. She does the same thing. Oh, look.

It was perfect. I didn't know you guys were open. I walk over here a hundred times. I never come in.

Oh, here you are at last. Oh, anything here that's a forgery. Two pieces of questionable provenance in the gallery. And you guess which ones they are.

Perfect. Perfect. Well, you got that not to unblade. I'm like, okay, here's an knife.

Someone is going to use it. When she dropped the M9 starter, connected the whole series so that thing that gets everything in motion. The whole thing that kicked everything in motion. Wow.

Yeah. It's the thing that brought Cyril into the story. I think that kind of blew it. Wow.

It's something when she said, oh I got something I want you to kind of look at and make sure it's not done. Oh, I knew it. It's going to be this start. Oh, I did not.

When I said, actually, even when I started I was like, why would you bring Don't you know It's a little bit just I say melted a little bit damaged I hope it doesn't mess with the price and that's when everything kind of goes into motion That conversation that they had I finally got you all this. Yeah, there is gone freedom scares you There are other people that are not thrown away. Oh the place is around it. Who cares that game is done There gonna be thousands of people that discuss you when all this gets out Then he freaking goes and does what he does what he did took me my surprise also I don't know what's gonna happen.

I didn't think it was going. I wasn't expecting him down himself right there What the then I'm there and it was a perfect Smoke and mirror no point and then with a smoke coming out we took her her attention away from him But also us because I didn't know that yeah, it's what we kind of turns around where she goes and then oh no He's like does he have a bomb? Oh, no, yeah, so and the reaction offer also like no I need him alive get them in here She can't break him down. It's every actor every actor in that show.

No, then he's got us sensational like yeah I mean can't get a more star wars. I don't know maybe she's still alive But yeah, she was great Before we keep going what I check up on comments in the show look who's here? Lauren Romo Interaction was palpable. Yes, it was Let me see Alan mentioned and I actually want to see if I can check this out He wants the and or plus rogue one theoretical experience.

Yeah, I would actually like to check that out We'll love to see like how that is And it's what it will be like a four-hour theater experience. We can do it. I mean I'll be a little bit better than go to know Yeah, I could probably for I was yeah, I did at my house What big screen no, but it's gonna edit the episodes in a way that it just like is it Yeah, I mean you take that credits out on the previously on anyway great simitones those characters It's not there they take him away in I if you just watch it. Yes, I don't think you know this But you know where they took him the name of that hospital the lean as so Medical Center do I didn't know it I went to a star wars.

I come to just check stuff about the episode one of the thing Oh, yeah, well the leaner so blown up. What the hell yeah I actually told someone I was like you're gonna think this is a spoiler But it's not because you don't read our of that so I'm gonna just tell you there's a hospital called the leaner So I'm just right in your face. You're not gonna realize it when I saw the sign and I thought okay So I'm gonna waste my time looking for another way of translator right now What the next day when I saw it oh my god, so We're gonna start with time because I see I'm like oh look gibberish I try learning I wish I go a few letters that I can tell but oh Lauren hadn't got that so congrats Lauren Yeah, it was I don't know why the Empire to has a name of Lena so hanging there, but Very soon it was then we get that infiltration scene like you mentioned this born scene that Tony Elroy loves I love the way clay I get access to it. You'll have to go by every dog I'm just gonna go with my hand bend this like I have and that she steals a patient.

There's no one source Yeah, that's so funny That's crops and poor alien grammar like Love we got that later on but the whole like It's a three-man army based on the scope and like yeah, it's funny I'm a fucker this clay as you put the bomb out there She stole the scrubs patient killed I don't how many imperials and three floors and then the bond is Distraction that she learned probably from that flash rather we spoke about minutes earlier I get I love how those flashback inform what's happening the present and then that scene with gluten Same good by without really single by very touching. Yeah, and I spread again on Star Wars. I can go check it out We're not sponsored by them, but it's Star Wars Talking about the finale actually online. It wasn't Star Wars are comics a little and all the classified 15 minutes You know behind the scenes that they do at the end the actress that plays clay Talking about how through the flesh and what that scene meant is that she has love and the same time hate for Luton because he was one of the people that killed his family and that hate never left a part of it was still there She was I don't say be there.

It's we but it was love must still hate for everything that happened I cannot get the relationship in that level interesting like great inside like oh no She loves her so much. Yeah, maybe not as much as I thought it was some love there but not He loved her. Oh, I do think Like he was a big but he's like though. She's like the one person he kept her Yeah, I think it mean he rescued her for a reason and kept her along with her for all those 15 20 years Because it happened and I honestly think like he didn't get the chance to but I think she's the only person he wouldn't cross But I mean we said here all this season I she's the only one that will straight off stand up to him until in where he's Kind of slacking where things are going on trying to calm him down And he the same thing just yelling at her last when the skull don't thing happen that they're gonna find that little listen device They're the only ones that can do that to each other because I'm certain level of respect and love between them But yeah, it's more from his side but and then I can't By all of Lauren is kind of with you on this she's saying I love how in the beginning of her was attend Luton says move and move to clay and then we learned how important that word was such a good Alright, so I wasn't that far away.

Thank you Lauren I knew I saw to win that word. I can still you know point out exactly what it meant apart from move and I tell to move What I say but it was something else there. Yeah, I gotta go die So follow kind of finishing up with the whole hospital scene a little bit later on did rest there I got him. I found him here.

I did your job. It's like you best you're under arrest because you don't follow instruction and But I was what's one who told me to bring you in I got an I build a trooper whoever to take you in shut the hell up You're coming with me. She's like oh crap. What happened.

Let's get this sorted. Let's get this sorted Enter karenic, but before we get to karenic We get when part I guess here is about lones that or young's dead because they don't use first name They're talking about Subordinates, but you see you saw his reaction surprise and kind of shock and then later on when karenic learns about it You think I care about a lowly worker and that's gonna make me come to this wretched basement Hmm, they don't give a shit about anyone beneath them Lauren saying that we're getting arrested was on my bingle cart Lauren on my show I told Tony that I thought that she was gonna become like a grandma Yeah, she's like and we'll come back in some way shape or form She was part of the first order It's to Brenda Hawks When super much of here to the hospital and then just blames everything It's such an idiot he got the best of ever though It's been used as a shield, but I also love like he Didn't have been in a job when someone leaves and then everything that happened is their fault everything someone Oh, that's the way always this motion daily when I left my previous job to the job I am now people I say I contact with would call me to hey They blame you for this I blame you for that. I'm like here did every time I've left a job I've told them like hey have anything happens to blame me Yeah, that's basically what I said is this did us Mission they help people everything was hurt fault But it's like a lot of karenic and did her did her as there in that little Circle being watched for the cameras and a little prison cell not prison sorry that little conference room It's the urgency of the situation not power. Oh, like why am I here say that works?

Come on. I want to hear you say that word. No as someone who is obsessed with Ben Mendelsohn and Ben Mendelsohn's karenic This was everything I've been willing to see since I left the the rogue one theater thinking like I want to see more of that guy Yeah That was so good like and yes like that line specifically him being like you know exactly why I'm here Yeah, yeah say it this time who else knows oh part I guess no no no someone I don't know tell me who I don't know There's a writing off all the names was the younger part. No, you're a soldier that I kind of didn't like them Thank you.

Oh Great the way he kind of just Ramsing to her thinking she's a rebel spy and that can forget I can't remember the line exactly But oh if you miss your calling or something if you're not a rebel spy you miss your calling the way you believe everything that you're saying Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah He's a hell of a bond. It was you I just think he needs someone's to take the fall Oh, of course and that goes later on we'll talk about his conversation with part I guess but then who how do you hear the name? Gaylers, how do you learn about gay learners and that we're all sorry some files got sent my way two years ago or something I didn't say anything and then if he's only hit it by himself The finger on top of the head to make you feel more like nothing Amazing you're a scavenger Yeah, I have to scavenge for information if they didn't tell me that this happened and that's when she kind of goes into the Into clay every important and that's when she's like how can you be so smart by the same time so stupid Lauren saying they show they really show how evil I agree But I do love like how the movie flows into a guan and everyone's been posting this thing like there's always a bigger fish Fish and how they'd rather than had part I guess part I guess at Pranic and so on and of course that Shane continues in Rogue one But also like Pranic in this show is like the authority figure he's like oh I'm running the secret product for everyone Yeah, and then we get to Rogue one and he's just a liney little bit My achievement not yours like he's like I meet with the emperor and there's like I'm assistant regional manager Talking to him the way he treated the important I guess we said we're talking tricks in good You're careful not to show in your aspirations direct or but we Continue with with credit then that's even here it comes. Oh, it's the assistant We got how we gonna this information was the war and gonna be a part of us like covering his face Okay, so don't just she's infected we need to get her before any other people die go do it and she's like why you never hear Exactly But then he goes to what you were talking about yeah, the Empire isn't competence I love how it's on display there they take their job.

They need someone to take the phone Yes, she broke some rules of course. You don't get punished, but she's obviously competent and they strip her down They they strip her down from her ranks They put her in prison and get this guy who is clearly unqualified for his job to So and they're like you have to solve this like right now or you will like the consequences will be dire and Of course this Empire fell like everyone running in was stupid and and we see that Empire strikes It's something when then you compare that to Luthen how much I know so much we criticized about people inside the show in terms of the people in the having criticized the way he Run things like it was his way just everything ran through him But everything worked in the Empire you have all these levels of Bringing did a round moving here. What's the war? You're gonna do this okay do go disseminate and then when they need to bring the The police go to help them at the end when they go to find Trey and Cassian Oh, no, everyone's trying to to work with the rumor with disseminated because they put all the people on it Even think about the first episode when they're discussing the energy project.

It's gonna be this Multi-department thing and everyone's gonna collaborate We have the help of everyone interconnect and we slowly see that the way in the last arc It was the whole like I need you to say the order so I can blame you Yeah, this goes out and now it's like they're out to eat each other and that's their downfall because then credit is gonna be taken down My target and it's a cycle and a rinse yeah But also it's I love when they're not telling them hey, it's the assistant. She wasn't there this What we're gonna don't she still think there's a way out and credit your sister down by that face like what man is without you Like your escape go right now. We're gonna go deal with this. I love that scene also when he's telling Here it's looking at part against basically saying failure will get you the ever lengthening line of I SB death march Looking at part that's like your next if this doesn't happen.

Tells it hey, I can't protect you Leo. Call him my first name Starts her love them part against being the little bitch that he's also. Oh you sound like oh Save that sir. He tells him.

Oh, you're supposed to be done by now. What's going on? Oh, you sound like chronic I mean you sound like talking and he goes back. Oh say that's sorry once for the emperor.

Yeah I love that conversation between them. They're gonna be friends ish. Yeah, but he also shows how hey I guess it doesn't work out your next one on the chopping block. Yeah, but part I guess has His trust enough to be able to like oh, you know, of course anyone else would have been there at that point Then here goes to clay to get information on sorry goes to do that again Information clay and they are still trying to find a way around it when it's like always this a test still trying to work Hey, we are answer.

Yeah, sorry. You're there Nemics manifesto. I know this is at the end, but it's really downfold. I loved how like hearing it and being like oh shit, that's the manifesto and then and then being a recording that part of us is playing and being like Why is the spreading like why are people listening to this?

So this is I believe right it's spread. It's not just then that they got and the empire's listening to it It's been spread. Yeah, for some reason more people are listening to it or something Eventually we'll find out maybe how they got their hands on it. Not how they got their hands on it But who spread it out this thing is maybe Lutherans.

No, they didn't have it. That's the only one that we know had it So I don't know Does it can't leave it with someone Oh, well, I guess well at the end of that episode. It's just a one so maybe well before sure But we don't need an answer to all of us. We don't I think we'll get some answers.

Well, not all that one or some other stuff but then it goes to Legrette a guy that was getting chewed up in the first couple of episodes for not having the simple reason for why Cratching all those criminals supposed criminals didn't get them closer to finding the rebels Conspired to find point. I guess hey, they went for you downstairs. I need to take you And part of us knew at that point was coming so another big shock. Hey, I did not expect that Though that moment when they hear the lesson legretta's name.

Yeah, like red lego. Yeah, like in you. Oh down settle down Okay, it goes like we thought this imperial hierarchy ladder that the only one that matters the emperor Everyone on the even beta because they every chance the emperor gets to downgrade Vader I called notches talking down great. He's pissed off.

He killed all the dead I because he can't replace later. He looks like oh finally a hot 19 year old I always wanted But it's like that what you you mentioned we talked about in other episodes how this hierarchy and how everyone gets chopped down But like part I guess for us what's an important person the empire at the end he was even lower than a regional manager Was not even like even target was just a piece in the puzzle I mean not talking chronic talking. I think talking was like one of the most important people Yeah, apart from that everyone's replaceable And you can put in the nakina fight prison cell All right, so So give the message to the rebellion Clay has on the wrong And so he's building the secret radio. I love that clay has all her artifacts out there all her little radio pieces We had a very fancy one in the shop When that's just going rogue building this hand radio out of pieces and cables is written out from the wall Our friend will go message about people Everything got foreign down under your on your bed.

What's going on here? Who are you texting? And what's the name? Oh, yeah, oh my god Mores code Mores code We saw great way to get a message out Willman of all people that I don't say was no one in season one.

Of course it was important to the ending I've a really staying with Luther Luther's doing jobs. So I think it would make sense that yeah, you know maybe the foreign The friendship was a little bit surprised when Casa cat doesn't any sorry Luther didn't make it Why he got so emotional? I was like we didn't get to see it, but I guess it had made a lot of it But we knew they worked together. Yeah But also maybe it's a thing they only know about because when will brings it in Casa and I think knows what it is The the box.

Yeah, Casa and like immediately reacts and she also so like They've been there for a year. So before we get to that No, I'm just saying you pose a question. No, no, it's fine. I'm going into Cassian, Noshi and Kate to playing domino In the middle of the jungle re-ansized the name of the game, but what I asked having that's I love and we talked about this I remember we talked about locus on two that In the middle of the chaos they took a moment to breathe in local.

Oh, let's go take it some pie and talk about what's going on In the middle of the chaos They're relaxing having fun joking with Kate to try to go them into making a wrong move Loved that we got a little bit more with milsey away from the war away from the from the prison Yeah, now mil she's actually a character by the way all of y'all acting like he was a Muslim party He's the background character. Now he's a character. That was something He did a lot but I love that scene. It just has seen that let's just sit down for two minutes I have fun and that's a great banter not every dialogue and monologue has a really great denounced around the empire.

I mean and the promise of Alan Turic is jokes. So Oh, yeah, we're also great a great scene to just kind of relax from you know before Willman comes in with the with unauthorized radio transmission because of course k2's like what the hell is going on? We're breaking all the rules. We're breaking 17 already What did it will go with them?

I know he had this a bad leg apparently he was limping through the holidays. Sorry. That's why Yeah, that's why I like we take milsey take a little bit when I was I wasn't gonna be here. I'm also closer friends now.

Yeah So they leave they go going to test run and not authorize test run I love that little when they calling calling hey, you're not authorized to power down reminiscing to them in when rogue one They're taking the ship. There is no rogue one. I didn't realize they weren't space. So suddenly it's like, okay Let's go parkers.

Oh, okay All right halfway there I Enjoy because it was then a throughout for the last episode everyone that worked with luthan defending luthan to the people in the army like Willman defending to Draven which I guess is one of the big heads over there. That's like 40 scenes from now. Yeah Well, just okay. No, because when they leave willman defense Whatever.

Yeah, sure. Then it does it again with passing comes in and talks to everyone over there So we're gonna talk about play. I want to go find clay and uh, yeah another boring entity scene I'm sneaking around by the way this episode. I'll say I'm bummed that we only got allent toic for two episodes basically because First episode was just the luthan episode But Hearing you know, Tony Gilroy still explain why he did this.

It makes sense Like he just has to be reduced to a stay in the car character And also the show deals with so many heavy things Having allent toic be like the odds are high that we die by the way after you know during the gourm massacre would it makes sense either So i'm finer with that, I guess, but also like if this was the five season thing they initially promised them we could have probably gotten more Allent toic that water Yeah, I agree I was I had two things that I wish we got more of gonna a little bit more one was a little bit more k2 But yeah trying to balance his humor with the actual shows a little bit difficult if it's gonna be in everything that cash any sense If not again leaving the car living at the oven for some reason and then I wanted more cholgarera because we saw him that's fine I love his arc his little scenes in the second arc Within getting my arc this was hoping to get something on jjakas we saw that in the trailer he's sitting there in jjela looking at the Saudi story that's how we get That's I guess when I watched it the first time was waiting for jjai and something to happen there There's just one scene that we saw in the trailer and that's it, but Anyway, they go to find claya the empire being just as mr. Was they are with their little BS meter trying to fight with the radio signal is going on And let's talk about it here. I guess he was here Yes, he was as a shield by k2 way comes in after blocking all that communication and part of us trapping itself You see what's going on Great little scene and I love when Uh, milshy working to the middle of the hallway Stay there drop your weapon. They just just I would have loved to know what Cassians plan was he's like don't talk to door and she's like why like this will be trapped and like Uh, no, that's it was super cool.

Yeah, it was very tense even though like, you know milshy and cassian live so Masterful job there and of course and the comedy comedy relief of k2 coming in and just like slapping people out of the way and Of course the line that cassian I've cleared a path Well, man, it's one of a sint they tell k2 just to stay behind but he always needs to come in at the end to say the day Because you know that something was going on again place briefly to rob one we go into jjela A lot of noise for two people blending in But before we get to that is when they find claire and she's like, oh, of course It would be you the one that comes And her Reluctancy to go to yavin. I know what they think of losing i'm gonna be taking us up recently They won't believe me you need to be the one to tell and casser like I won't lose anyone else like you need to go with me You need to be the one to tell them the message Uh, it's a weapon the building a weapon this obsession with the Kyber connection to jjela and also jjela and slowly setting out the pieces for Rogue one Yeah, I love all that with her just like dragging her feet on going to dara to dara to yavin Then even though we know that casseron and mel she won't die that scene We don't know what's gonna happen with clay when they throw that stone grenade there. Oh shit, right? Yeah, we're like great scene.

Why did mel she what was mel she car in clay and not k2 It's very easy for the droid to carry her they need the droid to slap people out of the way There was no one else at that point. They don't know that So you just let me just but you asked the question of answering it. I don't like your answer I like that right to work. You just want to be like, I found a plot home I found it sucks.

I'm gonna make a video after this complaining all the plot holes how it should have ended Um, so let's go Let's go to what I titled the rebellion is born and this yavin council. Let's go Most most of this was this last episode every episode 12 everything that sets up For a rogue one we talked a little bit about solar I didn't get as much as I wanted but that little scene that we get within talking to mothma talking with organa Basically very similar to when he talks with her in rebels. Yeah, I love how he's we know you're on jjela You have no idea where I am who smokes on my ros. You don't know I'm in them to my wheel.

They don't know. Ha ha I love how they're like, saw You just want to fight with you man. Just like cut the crazy. Tells what you are.

We'll pick you off You have a seat here like just come on like no How many times have we go have to go through this? We know you're just throwing a smoke bomb and just running out We're looking to ride on the Smelling that ride though, baby Vains called it reminding the rebellion figure that any one of them if only you could fight as well as you lie You're the one line. We know we're gonna go see you in five days. We're gonna be there Yeah So I needed more so we was fine.

We at that point is so out of it. They understand why he's not That's insane And I love jennifer Riley like she's like Okay, you're high. I guess Poor bail has no idea. We know these people are out on the scene.

I was easier than this and he's like oh my god When driving arms. Oh, there's that when the ship when cat is coming back is oh, it's the ando in the stalling ship Yeah, this happens like get used to it. Yep Rados Rados is back with everyone else from rope one and the yamming crew was there freaking loot Sir I love that first he was just an aindra he was then on the council day He was there on another scene. He's like yay rather with the named Rob I was like oh the the car room and then when he showed up I got showed up talk when an another scene is like no He's there.

It's not a property. They just oh, he's in the background and they're all goddamn radis War hero son. He's a war hero. We got the biggest ship is named after him.

Oh, just awesome Senator Jabelle good to know he's always sucked Ah, there a minute of his finish and nothing here and you're second. Oh, when was the last time that you talk with him? I'm like, oh, I hate that. I mean, why are you here sir?

Why are you here? And did that meeting when Cassian comes back this meeting with the rebel leaders again? That's when Rados is there like oh, No, don't that's not here. So we got away from that.

Let's just talk about it. This is active intel. We got to deal with it He's talking about information about the weapon telling them The whole message from clay and then it came from Luther not even believing him And then I love when I watch rock one when they get that message from gailin and jennison Hey, we all know the message last just go and tell them. He's like, I'm not the one you have to convince You're gonna go basically you're gonna go tell the council what happened what the message is and let's say they believe you because I just Stocked on two days ago told them basically what's going on and they didn't believe it's not me We have to convince and that's when I see that when they say oh, you're gonna watch rock when a different way It's not because oh look at this character here It's not everything I got set up in that last episode works perfectly with a lot of scenes in rock one But there's a lot of that convincing them of full looth and was and trying to hey none of us will be here without looth and Hey, I I love that speech that casting you It's like the whole like I know they're going in the bad But there's something like disgusting about seeing people who haven't sacrificed half of what he had to sacrifice Oh, that was you know trashing him.

Yeah standing on what he built My kids perfect and then when again bail I love you but sometimes you get to be need to be put on your plate Oh, when was the last time you spoke with him? Oh, yeah, go when I was saving her ass Oh Then That didn't rub you the wrong way that bail was Being this way a little till he went to talk with Cassian and can I say okay If mothna believes in you if all this that's happening is true, then go find out the truth I mean I understand at a point like they've been building to this rebellion for a long time There's a lot of things happening. It can be a lot of coincidence So he did run me a little bit that he wants that sharp at that point But I think it's suffering up by the end when he goes talking and if I if I'm gonna die I want to die swinging so I just don't want to sit back here without doing anything I think it plays them to rock one when they're hey, let's go fight. I used to with mothma like okay, let's do this I because I know a lot of people were angry like oh that's how the character and why not and I kind of felt that way I was like really?

Are you gonna be one taking the stance but then thinking about it I think a couple of things one he's still a senator. Yeah, like he hasn't he never defects really He talks about knowing about the energy project being like yeah, we've only been about this And so I think maybe there's this Stands between leadership like the ones that are still part of the government being like oh these people have been here for like a year They're in an echo chamber. They're going crazy. They're believing these theories like we need to be the voice of reason But also like think about mothma mothma's like I don't want to dismiss this dismiss this we need to talk about it She's upset that they're dismissing it But even she she knew luthan like she really knew him And even she's like well, you know like confirmed this for me.

I don't know I don't know so maybe that's how deeply broken the relationship with luthan was Yeah, and that if I I'm gonna say it wrong either way When we go to road one when mothma said one that told him like ah we don't have enough information to go attack when they get mad with them She's like, uh, it's without a full support of the cancel. We really can't do anything knowing everything as she went through That's the only thing I cannot really match with me But it's putting it on the whole console. We need to have a quorum to be able to do it Then we get Tivic it didn't go that way. I thought I thought clay I was gonna be talking to tivic the past information to Andor didn't go that way.

We did get that tivic mentioned as cash as informant on kafreen Uh, he's been calling. It's the only one he only wants to talk to to cash in And then that's when the I guess that was the catalyst to have all the information tried to make sense. Okay, uh, Mention of a weapon what's going on Jela mentioned of kyber kybers and then Tivic is calling like everything starts falling into place and that's what drava is kind of okay They might be something more to this. Let me go talk to mothma and then they throw them go to To organa so that little thing's like, okay, maybe it's too much of a coincidence to we are going to not be a To be a coincidence or what I love the little connection with tivic.

I want drava and tells guys and hey, do you trust him? I try today. Okay, that's why he killed him at the end. Yeah, maybe You need a little bit more to kill them.

I can understand. I guess he learned from losing if they catch him. He's gonna mess everything up. So You know, the empire can't know they know No, I mean it didra tells and that's when she's arguing with krynnic like hey You found an informant or someone and I think she says jail or something and you buy the way you guys do They you killed him without information and that's when he kind of throws it I think she's talking about Resomads character what she said that they I thought about him or she said that they killed him Did she say I thought she said they tortured him to insanity basically which fits with that character He was that was the whole thing he was super shook with everything and then he gets to to Song her as he's like, I'm gonna strap you on to To Truth Both shows again how the empire doesn't know how to do things correctly They are inherently incompetent.

I don't know if it had to do like two hours ago when they were gonna bring dr. Go is that his program to torture people? If that's what they did to torture that guy Everything works So there even because okay You're free to go you're going to kafreen and we're going to rob one And perfect setup he has the jacket on and then we get to this calm. I love this calm before this storm When he's kind of walking over there.

We see no she just training with the truth just running Mothma with vell just having breakfast in the break with all the other soldiers Clea is finally walking out kind of seeing how a willman is eating breakfast also with his girlfriend like everyone's life is good right now Yeah, and in 24 hours hell is gonna break out Yeah, so we didn't really talk about klea getting settled in I just I really like her exploring like everything and running into vell and vell, you know They aren't friends, but they know each other and the situation has changed. So I love that she's like oh, I have friends everywhere you're here with friends Yeah, I'm glad I held that wrapped up and knowing that klea You know in my head kind of she was in the resistance like the day after lea got impeached She was like in her home being like, okay, where are we starting this like any of that? I need a war And and I guess she gets to see the Dream I guess she gets to live what they work for and I do like that I do like that Not everyone needs to sacrifice themselves for the cause some of them get to see it And I do like it She like has that moment take it in like okay. We did this this is happening because of us But it was funny.

I was talking to my cousin and he was talking about like It's awesome that she got some peace of mind. She got somewhere to hang out in like three days She's gonna be running for her life because that's not gonna be Maybe she said all that communication thing that they have on the oven before Yeah, just to try the next hour It's like a week away So if you start watching everything together thinking about it like yeah in two in a month Also, that means like moment of peace the war is literally about to start it's there And the next hour was operational for about a week and a half before he got blown up But yeah, she was in hot. He was an indoor Vail is the only person she knows they're apart from Cassian basically. That's the only person she knows so when she and she's Yeah, but when she wants to play because her face.

She has no idea where she said what's going on And it was kind of a Like you said, maybe not we was a friendly face someone that you know kind of just take you in But then I love at the end when everything's happening and Cassian's working out that that's when we see her waking up It's finally the morning. It's not raining and she sees what she helped build a little little little smile And I love the way intercuss with the interrupt being in like in a five two characters very dedicated to one goal And how everything shifted I got consumed by what she helped build and Yeah, it's gonna thrive because she's gonna live forever. Yeah, I mean she's there She's part she's in the and she'll be in the next rainbow. She'll be there.

I can sense it now I Do not keep a five or at least an akina type prison system came up did rather most imperial person that you can ever meet Got brought down by the own season. She held not create what cannot build up And now it's no one's a number And finally breaks down and shows on emotions is such crying when likes go out because we know what that means Yep Fate worth them there didn't expect this to happen, but I think it's a great fitting Great surroundings got to that I was thinking that you mentioned not everyone has to die. We keep always thinking who's gonna die because they're not in rock one They're not any hope they have to die like the imperials or the ones I got this Zero was not in rock one. There was not part.

I guess was not and all of them are the ones that we lost We do lose of course in the brasset. Hey when they They did also brassos Oh, but that was very emotional like namik Yeah Namik is the only name I really know Uh, gorg I think it's the name of the one that they people that worked inside they mentioned all the other ones and then for the aldani Yeah, dude. I love that little drop They did like that nobody like aldani is a legend And no one knows who went there and did what and people take credit for it and vell's like I always want to shoot when I hear people like Oh, yeah, I did it. Okay, so no a casia says I've heard people take credit for it and she's like I've heard people Yeah, we'll kill if I heard that we'll kill them.

Yeah, I believe you would so okay now that I'm gonna act Uh surprise or stupid. They were talking about the aldani. I thought they were talking about the government I don't know it came after might have been after the aldani mentioned It doesn't matter like it fits any of the measures that they did Because also when cation tells the council that he's the one that saved mottman most of them don't know They think it was the escrow that brought her it's like Who know it was you but no one there knows like oh crap The art of stories Ah, so yeah, I thought I know it doesn't fit with the show But in the rain when clay has walking around kind of lost I was hoping that the Maya paper gate was gonna show oh you found us finally we've been lost for 10 years They're super dead Good they build a base over the bones What do you thought about pairing hanging out with scalds? Oh the voice parent with the mullet and the piercings Uh parent did you hear about that deleted scene?

I don't know I don't know if I read this like real or not But there was the supposed to delete that scene where he confronts one mottma And basically tells her like he knew all along yeah And that the empire interrogated him and he never said anything and even then he couldn't hurt trust I kind of hate that scene is another show Oh, and he's with uh scaldans wife. Yeah Of all the people well he looks defeated like this is not the life that he wanted like he makes this mottma because I mean, I guess scaldans wife the same as him to support all this at least mottma There was something there even if we just argument there was always some a little bit of love there Now, but yeah, I heard about that scene. I don't know if it was just on the script if they No, I don't think they shot it. I don't think they shot it This is why I think and I'm gonna put my glasses on my reading glasses Well, and there's two more books for the reign of the empire to do that also jump a bunch of years So I think it's not that we're gonna follow Um, very very very amazing the first book I am off is a big part so maybe we get some of his interrogation But I think giving under all these one-year gaps between alks some of the things that people like me might say Oh, we didn't get to see this.

So how is wise will not limping all of a sudden? I don't think it will die perfectly But some of those gaps can then be incorporated into those random car books and give a little bit more context into rock one And if we're in the empire the first one called a massive fear was named because of nemes manifesto when he says the mass of fear I'm pretty sure they'll do some times to season two the moment and the piercings The piercings were a bit weird. Yeah, but I I'm not satisfied with parents. All right I think 20 go-road promise us more and I don't think we got more but I'll be fine.

He got the the little speech in the first second. I was kind of misbearing and we talked a little bit about it last week I think we did what we're gonna see pairing after she left Coruscant. I wish we got something It really felt like the show forgot about him and at the end they were like, oh, we didn't forget about him. He's here.

There is Hey, buck. How you doing? Well, buckaraya Buckaraya Back later listen to all our comments. So let's go to a big one before we get to that one So when Velen cats and I talking and Vel tells you hey, you should go check in on big things like oh, maybe later Don't wait too long She knew right.

Well, Neil. Oh, of course she knew How do you feel about the song? I kind of like how It's like that ex that is still friends with your friends and it's like oh When he has I heard she she doing okay. I said yeah from all I heard she's doing fine She sent me that row.

She's with B2 which is what I said last week So get a secret baby. How do you feel about the secret baby to end the show? I think it's the only thing about the show that I hated But again, I almost made a sweet take I I did not like it. I don't think it I don't think it complimented the rogue one at all.

I mean it did but at the same time it didn't like I was like oh But thinking about it like yeah, summer is a soap opera in a way. So that was very soap opera It does bring that whole thing with you know, the sunrise It adds value to it. I don't think it doesn't add anything to her one But I think we could have just had that scene with bix and the B2E which yes clarity finally Satisfied with that arc. It's it's parent territory the show for god.

He was there but Yeah, not a huge fan But again, I get what they were going for there I heard from 20-year-old Roy that decision to make that Cindy last one He was kind of going back and forth if there's gonna be two chiefs You know and decided to go with it Talking about how this show and star wars is about whole and families and that connection and like he was mentioned The rising of the sun at the end of the day. I understand it I didn't like it when it showed up. I get it if people for other people that did like it That's fine. It doesn't mean that you hated the show or hated the ending I'd seen in the past two and a half three weeks four different shows that have a secret baby at the end So I was over it at that point.

Yeah, well watching so far present So the last of us again, I know about this but two weeks ago. Oh secret baby in the last of us She's pregnant. I watch in Netflix for seasons which is a comedy show Oh, that's spoilers man. It's spoilers.

It can't be thought of it. Come on Secret baby. Sorry spoilers. And I watch it You know I watch not in the movie story.

No, but how do you say conquist? Oh, so no, there's I haven't seen it, but there's apparently a beach resort thing. Yes All right, so anyway there I thought show that I won't mention I don't spoil it and then now I know the secret. Oh, I watch the if I tell you then I spoil it so I won't do you want me to tell you which one?

Thing of what other shows are running that? You want me? I can say it. I don't care.

You care or no? No, I say it in the cat bane like in tells of the underworld There's a secret anyway, the thing is for straight show with a secret baby at the end and we kind of going off the rails I can say it didn't add anything to me. Yeah, now the baby girl so without a dad I know what it's gonna learn that his father was this very very valuable hero. I get it.

We don't need it Casan everyone walks into the scene. Hey, baby, big You're an empty house or anything of incursion Uh, I feel that it added to Casan story to the sacrifice that he made Oh, does it make Rogue one sadr because he now can't meet his son? Does he make out look gin in that movie by the way? Because I can't remember right now.

They joke is saying that elevators in they do make up but they never they're very close Well, they do not make out. Okay, okay I'm saying my thing is how do you my thing is how do you give bigs any sort of happiness after all? She's been through and all she's about to lose. I'll stop you right there, but big supporter recon We find happiness in a direr situation.

Give her a baby. I guess. Yeah, that kind of felt like that like yeah She needs to smile. What do we do?

Yeah Understand that for some people they again when I go to now that son will learn that he's that was a real hero Maybe he joins the resistance and blah blah blah but He didn't add anything to my enjoyment Rogue one to what I think Casan sacrifice was so to me that boy was oh, yeah, I can skip it No, no, again. It's the one thing again. I'm perfectly fine saying it. I hated that decision.

Yeah All right, so that's the end that's the end of our history so we're at least I saw we saw where they goes into Rogue one how everything connects Uh, let's can we quickly talk about Rogue one? Uh quickly. I want to do at some point a bigger show talking about the whole andro Okay, let's talk about it real quick. So quickly just mentioning it really does feel like a different movie At least those first 20 minutes I've seen and kafreen completely different for me.

Um, does it change my opinion on the movie? No, I still think it's a pretty mediocre movie But I did like the extra content context and and how everything just flows into it like for every character that's in the show and in the movie I thought it was I wasn't expecting it to be this good even though it's only get away who made help make the movie I wasn't expecting it to flow this well and I was so pleasantly surprised to see like how it all came together Were you able to watch the whole thing? No, I I thought that one day I was tired when they were in jenna All right, I want to go watch when you get a chance watch it all the way to see if the opine on the movie changes Apart from those those 20 minutes, which again the thing for me it blows my soul fast and if it's 25 minutes they're already on jenna It's like wait what we're already here this and that was the other thing that was funny to be like watching it all together There were a lot of moments in Rogue one that I was like, oh no, there's gonna be a dialogue Oh action. Let's go.

That's like wait. Can we just stop for like three episodes and talk? It's so funny that we think that way now when and all this low burn of and or it's gonna take people away from and I was like no Rogue one is going too fast and Before I know Rogue one is jing story. So if you go straight from and or to Rogue one It's a big shift to who are these characters and other delete and cast and stay can step back That's a big change to get used to it by the end you're used to it The the kranic No, I just want to see the Cassian tie in sure yeah So bug is saying I love klaya so much more after this final arc incredible performance by elissa vid du lao I agree.

I don't know if you saw I think that this is her first. Yeah acting role Uh, so incredible. She was great. I agree with bug.

This is a character I had no opinion on I thought she was just like the pitch in the corner and that final like just made her one of my favorites like by far Today as a character that sneaked up on me I think I mentioned it before we saw a Rogue one or season two talk when I did my rewatch It was like of season one as a character as low like man, I'm getting interested in this character You can't forget that she's there, but she's very important in her relationship with luten But every single I just get expanding and expanding and again like we mentioned at the beginning Is every character in this show got a fool or a fool it didn't feel rushed like it didn't all right now klaya I was on this they want helping her. No, this got built little by little 311 episode 9 episodes to get to that point in 10 11 12 Again, I got that like you said send it back around for the first season how important she was for everything to happen So great ending. Uh, what's the lead the show love the show Later we're getting to rankings and all that stuff by the way, and then I think was perfect I said for the secret, baby, but season two a lot of rewatches. I think never has a show done something I hated at the end.

I've been like, okay Yeah, right. It doesn't change that much. It's fine. All right, so that does it for our ender coverage Can't believe that series is always not a season the whole series is over.

That's it. Uh, that's it The five seasons The look you'll write cut like the only cut over there in a couple of years who come back and do They can't I mean now hopefully not they can go back on and I will do in the years in between the win and see I just leave All right, let's do a very quick because we've gone over time. Let's say we can do a 10 minute or less I know that we've did like an hour and four minutes last time but What between fandoms? Okay, it's been a couple of weeks since we talked about dr Who mostly and the last of us.

I thought about dr. Who real quick I mentioned there been two episodes We haven't talked about a new episode drops tomorrow Lucky day, which was this episode two weeks ago. Uh, uh, basically a doctor less the obligatory No dr. Ruby.

I love which I love when this episode did at the beginning. I love it. I thought I was thinking Hey, I'm amazing. I hope they do this soon It's just jumping in the middle of an adventure Yeah, so I love that that was going on and then when it comes to just being a Ruby Sunday episode, I'm fine.

I like Ruby. Let's see what she said and everything the way it's building up I heard you boyfriend and her working with unit all that it's it works. It's working for me great But as soon as they show up that everything was fake that they have this podcast and blog and they just trying to bring unit down and how easily They changed everyone's perspective and opinion on the unit and that their line and they just smoke at mirrors that monsters are fake It lost me and didn't get me back. Okay.

I I think my least favorite so far of these last two seasons I don't I didn't get it. I hated the guy. You know those that you love to hate. I just hated the guy and I think it's gonna come back I think he's really gonna come back.

Yeah Um I like lucky day. Uh, it wasn't my favorite dr. Who episode by any means, but I really liked it. Um, I I took like a no dr.

episode companions and I love a I love Ruby and I love Kate And I love this, uh, unit family that we're getting And in this iteration of the doctor Um, but yeah, I really like lucky that I really had no complaints about it We get to see the doctor beat menacing at the end which this song is this show has been missing quite a lot I did like that power he concerned basically. No one's gonna remember you you're nothing basically How did that work? Again, it's not the way that they don't need to explain how things work, but I don't know how because he said, oh you get invited to the tardis or I didn't want to invite anyone to tell you something like that I really don't know the time period that this happened No, I think it's probably somewhere in between Uh, the suit tag thing and joy to the world or somewhere in between joy to the world and the first time Yeah, it's one of those things. I love dr.

Who with things that I have no idea how they work how they measure I don't care just give me show so it's that part I didn't enjoy just oh it's not supposed to be able to get to work out Does that work? So before we get to the story on the engine that I did enjoy Am I the only one I think they're playing the mrs. flood card like too much like it's that seems like the same beat As last season shows up in every episode. There's a major it seems like they keep repeating it I'm getting tired of it.

So I don't know. I mean strabhan. There's two more of us I mean hopefully we'll get some resolution by then but it's like okay, well, I don't see any build up I think there was some build up to it right now. It's like No, it was cool because it was new like we have no idea, but now we've known mrs.

flood to be the menace We've suspected since the first Christmas special because that's what she's like never seen part of it Uh, and now like it's clearly like okay. She's either the villain or something related to that I don't mind she showing up like I don't really care that much Any theories on who she is? I mean the easy one is to say that she's the master. I don't think we're going with I think we are men.

Okay, the only thing I and I wouldn't mind it and it makes sense that watch you show you know what she didn't know so much It just reminds me of the last master with uh 14 doctor The thing's my master. Yeah, it seems like the same kind of bill not the same but this this guy was helping them and oh no secret master So I that's the only thing that I'm kind of not worried about it will be a little bit At least we're gonna be didn't drag it on that much. No, it was a great review even I got spoke I was watching doctor at that moment, but it was a great review for that character to come out as a doctor I think he did a great job and that's what we get the whole means of the doctor They go through all these musical numbers for three straight iterations I wouldn't mind if mrs. flood is the master again.

I'm been missing a lot of the classic villains like the Alex and the cyberman Yeah, give me the master. I wouldn't mind it Buck is saying I hope she's the runny or another time or tony isn't that the runny? No, I don't know Great. Just give me I love the master, but I need a long break from them I watched the show a year ago when I feel like I'm missing the master I'll go with the master again.

This is like the poorest formula theory ever The fugitive doctor actress joe martin was in the And so was Michelle Gomez who plays mrs. He So Russell t days once made a freak out. He's gonna ring in mrs Oh, mrs. It'll be great to get mrs.

And this doctor back and forth missing being like finally the doctor and doctor being like uh right now i'm gay And yeah, sorry like that maybe next time but talking about the fugitive doctor Then we go into the story and the engine really like that one That was a super weird episode So this is a great thing about dr. Who and similar to how you got into it My wife when she just walks by and saw me watching some of the earlier I said like this is just dumb I walked away now. She's once in this season with me and she told me at the end of that episode like Doctor who's weird. Well, this is interesting.

I'm like, yes, exactly Let's be watching it That's the thing you need to know very weird episode with a spider that collects memories or this guy's Right Keeps being all the gods into it. So it's a cool episode The joe martin reveal my chardron. I did not see that coming And also Russell t day was being like, yeah, I really do like the time was shilden thing. Sorry Yeah, well, her line is a story that's not finished or that gets her play to the other Spina series.

So I didn't enjoy that one Uh, I was gonna mention something. Oh, I just want to quickly I don't know if we talked about this up But if you've heard my show and if people hear her We're tracking the whole the doctor who hasn't been removing Which is a real thing the show has not been removed Uh, Ellen is saying something that I wanted to highlight quickly doctor who will continue on the bbc for more seasons Even if disney isn't on board. I hope that is true. How ever the source of published this news I would believe a guy walking down the street telling me dr.

Who is getting renewed? It's not podcast news, right? What's important? No, it's not really what led that does a lot of um, okay Sports news also and if I see sports news for them, I'll bet on the opposite.

So I'll just say that So hopefully it is true. Hopefully it is true. Yeah, we do every so freemanding. I'm scared that we might not get it I mean, there's no one has been canceled before so but at least you finish.

I think you finish the wrong with that doctor I don't know Maybe not I mean, I don't know. Maybe it gets canceled for like two years It just seems like they made such a big deal with the six years anniversary and everything I came out to then just sorry cancel it Into season because streaming numbers are not what they wanted because no one is watching the show Let's not getting too streaming numbers. Again. I love the show.

Hopefully it goes back part of season season unless they're able to finish this season out in a satisfying way Then we can do it Buck love the throwing in the end and gas also same end. I think all right. So to finish up real quick last of us Two episodes we talked a little bit about day one last week Not really. We just say it was a great episode and then feel her love this past week and also show us two episodes left Kinda with also seven episodes, which I didn't know Great again great season so far two great episodes.

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