Rebellion's built on hope. Sagrona team, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Red and 8 Star Wars podcast. I'll be talking about it over there, psychos, Alti, One, Tenore, and joining us all special guests. Tony Figueroa, collector Tony-52.
It's been here before, we're glad to be having back Tony. How are you doing today? Doing very, very well. Thank you guys for having me again, very excited to be talking Star Wars, especially End or Season 2.
So yeah, thank you guys for having me here. Yeah, no problem. Always something when you're here, especially if Alti and you are together. I have to watch out.
I gotta keep controlling the conversation, but Alti, how are you doing? Is that you? You bastard. It's been a week since celebration.
Have you recovered? How's everything going on over there? Dude, I've been so freaking tired. All week.
But I'm doing good. Like Tony and I do our Friday show every morning. And I think this is the first time we've ever, in the history of podcasting for the last eight years. We're like, I'm too tired for this.
And him being like, thank you, me too. No, it was great because I woke up, my alarm went off. Literally, you texted me a minute after that. And I was like, thank you.
I was just dead. Dead, dead, dead. Yeah. But you know what?
This whole week, I've been reflecting. I, let's see, I'm pretty sure I'm going to celebration. Oh, okay. Nurse Cross, let's see.
All right. It's close to now. You heard it here first. Talking about celebration Tony, we haven't had a chance to talk about about your overall feelings as quickly as you can, recap those three days of Star Wars celebration last week.
I mean, I think it was awesome. I think celebration always just finds a way to one up itself and bring you new things. And to me, it's not even about, I mean, the big panels are obviously so great, but it's like the little things. It's like the toy reveals.
It's like the figurines. It's like the random little interviews in between the big panels. And I just really, my biggest thing is seeing the fans interact with all these huge names and them being humbled by it. So it was great.
It was great. Alan Tudic, as always, just being Alan Tudic. Return my calls. He was by far our highlight of salvation.
Oh, yeah. I mean, he's interviews with him and they all learned some of the greats. And they didn't disappoint last week. It was great getting them to talk about it once again.
But can I say something about celebration quickly? There was something that came up in celebration that seeing Andra kind of reflected on how they go alone. I'm a person in Star Trek, but then he turns into Andra, who's like, super serious to it. And I was watching the episodes just thinking about it like, wow, they go on.
That's so good. Because like none of his personality is oozing through this character. No, but and actually a great another person who I think is like seeing Rosario Dawson, be a literal nerd at celebration, talking about watching the animated show. And then you see Ahsoka and you can tell she cares about the character, but she gets serious.
And like, she's like, she embodies it, right? But then she's this nerd in the, in behind the scenes, right? Seeing all this stuff happening around her. And I see that with Diego too.
Like, he has such a goofball. And then you see him as Andra and you take him seriously from the get-go. Minutes. I know we get invested in all these characters and what they do when people hate them all.
That's the same as those characters mentioned. And now that the niche gal and Khadar Solar are out there doing interviews, they're exact opposite of Didra and Cyril. So they're just having a blast with every interview. And it's great to see actors and we see as serious characters and causing so much destruction and mayhem.
Just be goofball. Just be regular people having fun in this universe. So let me see that. So to everyone that's joined us with, and so being here, make sure you're subscribed to our channel so you don't miss any of our Andra recap to have some great guests coming in the next couple of weeks.
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So alright, let's go ahead. If you guys are ready, I'm not ready. Let's talk Star Wars and Star Wars on TV. I'm not your film, you'll be wondering about Star Wars on TV.
And our season 2 is finally here after a two and a half year break, more or less, with three episodes that drop. We're just calling it Arc1. I'm sure people are going to have names for what this arc was. But before we dive into a real quick episode one, one year later, then start growing up, team everyone and harvest.
I'll tell you that with you real quick, your initial thoughts in this new drop on Disney Plus of dropping all three episodes at once, a full arc, they say it's like watching a movie. Do you like a little of the episodes that we got? Did it make sense to do this one? Do you prefer that?
Let's just do the weekly drop. I mean, I think it's gone. But like, even if you think about season one, it was sort of the same format. We just got it weekly.
But like every three episodes were kind of an arc. And I honestly don't know if I have a preference. I like the whole weekly release because it's with us more. But having it told in this way makes you maybe appreciate the story a little bit more.
I don't know. What I will say, my only issue with this is like it's long episodes. They're almost an hour all of them. And having it released at 9 p.m.
is not awesome for someone like me. Too late after celebration, I was trying to catch up on sleep. Yeah. Like even if it's like an one hour episode, just a one hour episode, 90.
I'm like, Oh my God, I'm gonna go to bed like after 10 30. Three episodes. I'm not watching three episodes probably. So that's really my only issue.
I watched the first one that morning or so. I don't know how I did it. I did not watch it when it dropped. I actually forgot it was easy.
But yeah, no, I am fine with the format. It's funny that we always and by we, I just mean always fun in general complain about so I was episode not being long enough, not being hour long. And I'm here with old man, three one hour episode. I'm gonna make time for this.
But same thing. I watched two the first night, the second one I watched in my bed almost falling asleep. And the third one like watching this next morning. But I enjoyed that.
These three at least this first arc dropped pretty close by or I wasn't pretty close together. I don't know if I would have enjoyed them as much as I did, even though I to me they were good. I would get into those if I was the first one and they have to wait a whole week. I would have been like, I don't know, it's not grabbing me.
You never see one. Yeah, I know. If I think of the first arc, it's very similar. It's just a set up.
This is where the world is right now. And they will jump into the story. That one we got all together, I think. That first one.
Maybe. I think we got at least two. At least two. Yeah, at least two at least.
Yeah. Sure. Tony, how was it for you? When you first heard the news that they were dropping these those arcs in blocks in three episode blocks, did that surprise you?
And now that they're here, how do you feel about it? I mean, it was definitely surprising when I heard it mostly because it was a new format, right for short star wars and even for just Disney TV in general, like we haven't really seen these little blocks like this in any live action shows or the marbles or anything. So it was definitely interesting and knowing what that meant, right? Each arc taking one, right?
Taking place in one year in this four year gap that we're having, right? So it's interesting having seen them, I understand it, right? We're just seeing a little snippet of what's happening in these years. I am intrigued about the time jump in between.
I think that's really what's going to determine if the format is working for me. Because yeah, three episodes, great. I love that. That's more for us to watch, right?
But now when we go see episode four and seeing this time jump, it's going to be interesting. Okay, do we feel good about this or are we still like, wait, like, do we need answers of some stuff that would happen in between? We know kind of where we leave off, but I don't know, that's really my only concern there. Okay, yes, you want to be interested in this first one year jump.
If it's something that there's a lot of open questions, and if they spend a whole episode kind of catching you up on what happened that one year that we didn't see, but at the same time, maybe I remember it wrong. A lot of these stories were really close. There's not nothing really open. And right now, I mean, you can think that wedding was going on with Monmouth Ma and Tae Coma.
It's going to be fun to talk about those two and everything that happened. But we got everything. In our story goes with the next three years later. But I think it worked.
Right now, we trust this team. So we'll see how it goes. So let's go ahead. Like I mentioned to you guys before we started just letting everyone out.
And now we won't go episode by episode. We'll go in the little four kind of stories that they told in pre-re meeting. We'll talk about the wedding in Chandrila. The casting stuff where he got stranded.
And then we'll finish up with big brass on everyone in that little plan. I just tried to live a happy home life. And I won't say it kind of reminds me of what's going on right now. But let's start with...
When we talk about this, a while back, when Star Wars and real world messes together, it's always been political. And sometimes even when you don't mean to make it so obvious, the real world makes it obvious. It's not like they do it on purpose. So we fair this is life-in rotating art because this was recorded like a year ago.
Yeah. Two and a half years. This is the government being like, that's what we want to do. Yeah, someone inside Andrila is from the government taking notes.
You guys saw how he met your mother. This is Barney being like, who's Skywalker is the bad guy? He's the bad guy. Yeah.
Oh, the one who doesn't want to feel like real world government was Kreni. If anyone any signal chat debacle, no one's getting worried of what's going on here. If you're not here, no one knows what's going on talking. He doesn't even know what's happening.
Kreni would be a better secretary of defense and P-hex. Yes, definitely. He wouldn't be a great one, but he'd be a better one. He wouldn't be good for the country, but he would be good at his job.
Okay, exactly. So he's there in Nada, Pentagon. He said that Malthin divide the little castle in the mountains over their Kreni's base meeting with other Imperials. These were their partagases.
They wanted to get that scene between those three characters. We got it right off the bat. I'm surprised that. Here you go.
Episode one, here's Kreni, he's back and we're talking about the Imperial energy project. The Emperor just wants to make sure clean energy for everyone, but we might have to kill half a population there because the spiders are so important for the cow kite that we need for the shielding or for the reactor. But Tony just started there with Erenik's back meeting between the Imperials. I mean, part of the install works, it's been about since we've gotten those kind of bold meeting scenes in Star Wars.
Initial reaction, what you thought about Kreni, partagastend, talk with Didra and to get her thoughts on everything that's going on. I thought it was a great introduction into this world. Again, bringing us in. Like you said, it's a classic thing in Star Wars all the way back to the first film, the meeting of all the people inside the room and Vader coming in and everybody just like, oh, shh, damn.
What are we going to do now? So this is Kreni, being Kreni, he's like, okay, I'm in charge of this project. He still doesn't know that Tarking is going to take it away from his hands. So he's this diva.
He's running the show. I really love that. I love that introduction of him just being like, yep, no recordings, no paper trail. All the droids are getting wides.
You don't speak to this to your mother. And then, yeah, seeing Didra just come in from where we last saw her where she was essentially defeated and then put in her place. And then she's coming back up, still ambivalent about things. She's still not sure about her path in this, even though it's been laid out before her.
Essentially, Kreni, a tough dog telling her, I want you to be a part of this project. I thought it was great. I love seeing Didra not sure about what she wants, even though we know that she's going to become a monster. Like, you can just tell.
And then this whole gorman thing. Like, you know, we know what they want. We know what this is all for where we're going with this. But again, just the empire being the empire.
Yeah, you know, yeah, moving them to another planet would be interesting. But let's not think about that for now. Let's think about how we can literally destroy them. We're gonna gouch mine the whole planet for this Cal card that they need.
They gotta go with the not PowerPoint presentation about where they're the propaganda video. I get something. I don't have we ever seen a film that shown that way in Star Wars, like as a projector. Never.
Like, that was crazy. Yeah, this lies between each one. Yeah. And the two guys that come out and the propaganda.
Oh, this is we've been behind all every time before. It's coming from us. This fake news that we're planting out there. So all day, I just this imperial meeting.
No, I love the imperial. So the same was called by Tony said kind of reminds me of that scene scene. And you hope I just love to have chronic back on my on my screen. So that made me very happy.
He's so full of himself. He's such a little man with such little power. And he's so proud. He's like the Dwight fruit of the of the Star Wars universe.
So yeah, I love spending time with these incompetent people in the galaxy far away. I love that he named Dr. Tolkien named Dr. Ula and and he goes, well, it's for the emperor yesterday.
Same thing I told when Rogue one will talk to the Emperor about it because I need to make sure the emperor knows that I exist. The emperor sent him a letter at most. Yeah, it was delivered by draw or something. But I mean, if you've read that glass of ice, I made window, I don't know what Star Wars have now, like not against, I guess they love their spiders that we've special silk because a big part of that book is this helium worm spiders and the silk that they produce is very important for the commerce out there.
Now we have the helium spot, the government spiders with the Calcutta, they need either real Calcutta or fake or whatever version there is we need to get it from down there. And the people, they really don't like the Empire. They're very vocal about it. They go about things how they want.
And that's when they bring these two guys to try to make a propaganda that they're similar to spider star clandos stories. But like you mentioned before, like we've been talking like, they really doesn't really like this approach. I think this is not going to work. I don't actually mean plant some fake rebels down there or take gourmand rebels to start a revolution down there against the Empire, I guess, and then give them an excuse to command attack.
And I love when Krenik is like, if you're trying to hide your thoughts or you think you're being coy, it's not going to work. Like I can read you, I know you have an idea and I want you to tell me now don't wait on it. So I love that Krenik, even though he thinks more of himself, he really is in terms of his loud in the Empire. He was able to read that from her.
And I'm like, come on, tell me what you think about this won't work. And it's a lot of part, I hope we keep getting more of him. It's that conversation with him and Dira afterwards when they're walking back to the ISB office, like, okay, you've been like, you're in the Krenis good races. So are you going to take the job or not?
I say, hey, I'm not too sure of it. If he talks to you, you got the job. And then he also realized, what's what he says, like, humbling to know your position. Because we thought that part, I guess, was high up.
And I was like, no, dude, you're like down here, middle manager, you're a bad soak. That little friend of a manager, he's like, the assistant to the regional manager. No, I think that's great. And again, showing this whole belief of hierarchy is the reason why the Empire like, one fails at the most part is because there really isn't any real leadership.
And people keep thinking on the big boss, but then there's obviously a bigger boss and then somebody else comes around. And I think that even with Dira, like, she's understanding, like, these people are just like playing this game, like nobody actually cares about this. They just want to want up themselves, right? Yeah, she's still thinking about not fucking what's the name that she uses for access.
Access is still, oh, no, access. I got to deal with access. And part of it's like, access is nothing. You failed.
You spent too much time there. You've been given opportunity. Take it and crush it and win. And then you'll be back in good grades as well.
I love he says something. I don't remember the exact name, but I was something like, if we're gonna chase ghosts, you have to provide results. Yeah. Haven't shown anything.
So someone that apparently showed results, zero, I guess, still working in payroll acquisitions, no longer in fuel purity. But now he's doing that tour for the next person. He's a tour guy. He's the guy in the cubicle.
Go for the, he's the onboarder for new employees. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, that's your guy.
You love how. Oh, I adore him. He's my little, he's my special boy. No, he still is such a special boy.
He's such a loser. When he gets home and Dira's like, oh, you're back with a little back for groceries. He's Maggie said that in that first episode, he's such hard to work. I just love catching up with him and seeing what he's doing.
And he saying that he hasn't changed, saying that he still has the same issues. But I was surprised to see that they were together, like off the bat. Yeah. Man, that barracks, magical place, the kind of magical place.
It brings so many people together. That Rick's road. Yeah. Dreams are made.
But I do love that. It's like he's trading in one abuser for another. Essentially. Like he's literally just like, okay, I'm not going to go back to my mom's house.
Let me go into my fascist girlfriend's house and, you know, cook for her and make sure that everything is ready for her. You know, it's a man. If Dira was real, I would be her boy, Toy is coming for her. We're not blaming him.
We understand him. We are behind him. I mean, from his point of view, he's saved her. He's been infatuated with her for the first time she saw her.
So if he has that opportunity, hey, good for him. I don't taste your hand well, but good for him. Oh, no, it's going to end horribly. I'm not saying this is a good idea.
I'm just saying I would do the same. Oh, but yeah, it's something that we talked about here during season one. They made a point of it during celebration that there was something going on between them. And now we see it straight up like they're living together.
That this is a thing. They've moved in and I'm guessing this is Dira's apartment. It's a palace. And we'll get to the dinner scene with just that little home life.
It's like, oh, we can postpone still afraid of. I mean, everyone introducing their girlfriend to their parents is always a big deal. So like that sense, I understand, but then going to ED is even worse. If ED car was my mom, she would never meet.
Yeah, I would tell people my mother is dead. No, that was crazy. But again, showing this whole side of these people that we don't usually experience. Like you said, this is them.
They're making fondue. They're literally making a fondue night for to meet his girlfriend's mom. And then it's a whole thing. And oh my god, I just loved it.
I love it. And I also love Cyril's OCD around everything, putting the little fork how it is and making sure that everything is all clean. And then Dandra just being shut up, sit down, eat. I love that moment.
And he's like, mom, you're dripping. And she's like, it's fine. So let's go straight to that dinner scene, which I can't believe we got a dinner scene in Star Wars. And to your point, Tony, something we talked about in the show forever, it's how seeing the real life of Imperials or people away from the fight is something that's very intriguing and something we've always wanted to see.
And I've gone to the ex, but I love that little scene again, just so maybe we'll bring her his mother in. First, they're practicing how to smile when she's starting to find ways to go. Yeah, exactly. You got to pick on a fake persona when you're going to meet these people.
And then that introduction, the way Ed is still throws him under the bus, belittles him, calling him fragile. You can see him slowly. He's trying to keep it together, but slowly as that dinner from that, oh, you're dripping. When he just goes and lays on the bed, just slowly see that needle turning.
It's awesome because we know that he's kind of a little twerge, but just that relationship between the two of them. But, Otty, for you seeing that, the idea is before we get to Dandra and Ed is conversation, just how everything played out. That's what I want to talk about. Skip the rest.
All right. So I love first, if I were to that how Cyril tried to get away from, oh, you want spicy? We don't have any. I can go get it.
I just want to get out of here. I just want to get out of here. To the store? You want me to go to the store?
Okay. I'll go. I'll drink while you're having. Well, when she goes, after he calls him, delicate and breathing Uncle Harlow again, which was really unknown, that was the name that she's using for her boy toy afterwards.
But when he asked Dandra, oh, what about your home life? For your parents? Oh, there were criminals. I was raised and in Pino Kinderblatt, it was great.
It was perfect. Oh, just nothing fragile about that. Somebody who can definitely take it and can survive this world that is more than just eating cake and having dinner parties. Dandra is so not getting a redemption arc.
No, no, she's gone. Cyril, though. Maybe. Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed. All right, Otty, so let's go to you. You want to talk about... Again, I love these two women for very different reasons.
And Dandra being like, okay, enough is enough. Listen, bitch. Only two was one conversation. It's not like they knew each other.
They are meeting each other for the first time. Right. I can imagine she being like, okay, maybe Cyril's exaggerating, but no, just one dinner and she's like, nope, I need to put this woman in her place right now. I love how it's on the negotiation.
Again, Dandra and Cyril, they are the Dwight and Angela of the Star Wars universe. They're so freaking weird. They really are. And I think when I go back, once a month, going back to the whole tormentor thing, like switching torment into tormentor.
Now, Dandra knows she's in control and she's being like, I have a plan. And I love that line when she's like, and I say plan, like it's optional, you know, and I love that she's just like, hey, this is how it's going to happen. And if you want to be a part of our life, deal with it. And by the way, the whole thing with Uncle Harlow, which has been showing the first season and she being by the way, stop telling that story.
I looked into his file. You don't want any connection to this person. Yeah, that's like suddenly being like, yeah, you know, my friend Java the hut, you know, like you don't want people to know that sort of stuff, not in Coruscant, at least. I want to book now with something.
I thought it was a story of Uncle Harlow. What's this guy? Oh, right. In Lego, Lego Uncle Harlow.
Lego Uncle Harlow. If he's not in rebuild the galaxy too, I will riot. Show us Uncle Harlow, you cowards. We need to make brickheads Uncle Harlow.
Yeah, because she says, oh, his dad just one day woke up and left there and come back. If it wasn't for Uncle Harlow, why would we be? I don't know. He was like, I wish I could be like that and just walk away.
He tried. He tried. I need to go get cigarettes at the store. I'll be right back.
But wait, imagine being a serial's dad. Edie is your wife and serial is your son. Like, I'm so sorry. I understand why you left.
Oh, we're not giving the best, perhaps you two relationships. People will see letters, relationship, material, living your kids and your family. Don't listen to us if you're trying to sell a relationship for a family. All right.
So let's post our relationship with Edie Garn. That's all I'm saying. Oh, well. I'm surprised.
I'm maybe I shouldn't be but after watching this and when I kind of am how funny it was. So I said, the first episode, there were a bunch of funny moments through it, especially with Cassie and trying to take the ship. I'm surprised to start that way. Something wasn't really funny.
At least for the people's in it was this all the reading or this chant really unwinding. I don't know where I put all the time. I know this chant really unwinding. We go to the Motmai state, come down.
That woman has money. See that freaking that's a palace. That's a place you want to hang out. Right.
That we got to learn more about this chant really and history and tradition just walking up the mountain the day before the wedding that beat the big party and of course every time we went with the wedding and the dances. So I love that we got to see more about it. I believe we saw chant really that for the first time in live action. So that's always fun.
Don't know. It's a prize. We're like, Oh, look who's here and Luton is there. At that moment, we have no idea what is there.
Is it just going to blow the whole thing open? Oh, no. I'm here with the worst person ever. It's called on.
I got a surprise. It's a secret. See ya. I love that the wig is the giveaway.
It's like if the wig is on, he's the character. He's not here as part of the rebellion. He's here to party. He's here to drink.
But I love that also seeing Vel too, right? We now know Martha's cousin. She's part of this whole thing. And she's also like, why is he here?
Like what's happening? And again, the double-sidedness of Monmothma. Like you said, we know that she has all this money and everything and we know she's putting it to a good cause. But that's a part of those nuances of these characters that I take.
Koma does kind of bring it up and he's like, Oh, look at this party that you're having. This is kind of crazy, right? But then seeing that duality with her like even walking around her own house where she's smiling to people and then suddenly you see her face and she wants to kill herself because she has no idea what's happening. And she's being put into this terrible position with her daughter to be able to fund the rebellion and to be able to actually do something good.
But then she's also losing her daughter in the in the midst of this. And of course, I mean, just just knowing that we have good old parent there to help her through all this. Hey, I should I just say for pairing, don't talk to my boy. The first thing he says, Oh, so where's your boyfriend at?
Huh? Well, your boyfriend at your boyfriend now? Oh, he's single now. So I guess nothing is stopping you.
All right. Dude, let's figure out people who shouldn't take relationship advice from take, comma something's wrong. There's a don't go to him. I mean, but I understand pairing if you've seen his wife the past year listening to the show always hanging out with their old pal from college.
He's back all over Southern spends every weekend there. You learn that he's just broke up with his wife and now he's had the wedding side. Hey, what's your boyfriend? Is it the perfect place to bring it up?
Probably not. But I love that they're with Perin turns off flesh in our skeleton. I mean, he's still a jackass, but yeah, but he's still he's starting to grow on me and grow, I think, on Mon, I think Mon is starting to be like, okay, we need to do we can't just be this conflict all the time. And I love how everything ends with just her, Perin looking at her like, this bitch, this bitch dancing.
We're gonna be a bitch dance, you know, I mean, I want to talk more about Perin and his speech, apart from his voice, your boyfriend's speech, I'm more and more like, Oh, who do you mean? I will be talking. Come on. You know, who I'm talking about?
And by his speech to his daughter is wedding speech. Oh, they take coma, Tony mentioned comes to this place sees a big party, sees a huge mountain and state. Hey, I just moved 400,000 credits on how many months crazy, told me to move because you were having money trouble, freaking that was called on God, why he wanted. I'm here losing my wife, I'm losing funding because the rebellion is making a difficult for investment.
Your foundation is up and running like, I'm feeling undervalued. So what's going on? A different side and something mon mothman I wasn't expecting of her old friend. No, and not because it would be one thing for him to be like, Hey, I'm getting out of this, I'm cutting you off.
But then being like, also, we've got the people over there, like, go talk to them. I was not a man. Greed will make you do some crazy things. And I mean, it's also having had something and losing it, right?
It's one thing. If you have a character who doesn't have anything, and he starts to kind of grow into this world, but take all my is losing his standing, he's losing the power, the little power that he had or the semblance of power that he had, he's now losing. And he's like, okay, well, if you're not gonna help me get it back, somebody else will. And you know, I always think of like, uh, uh, Benicio de Toto's character in last year, I just being like, Hey, some people buy from for the rebels and some people sell to the empire.
You know, it's it's business. It's the world that we live in. You know, we have to figure it out. Um, and obviously take home.
I is not a bad guy. Like he's not like I want the empire to win, but he's clearly like, I'll be with whoever gets me power and gets me a standing. I don't like Trump. I just like his economy.
I was like going for you. I don't like Trump, but I was like, who lost three executive? How's that going for you? I didn't vote for immigration.
I voted for the advice of my exes to how y'all take when they bring it down. I was like, oh, it's not going for you. You know what? Take home.
I should have invested in GameStop. That's what I'm saying. Oh man. So yeah, poor take home.
Everything's going down for him. He says golden as someone who's climbing up in that social world over there. I guess I'm more than I thought with him. Just be more like him as and you get that's when both are like, Oh, crap.
And of course that's way we got a great conversation with Luther before I love play. Play as becoming one of my favorite characters, you know, those secondary characters I love from the first season when I did my rewatch and I love her in hearing the two episodes that we got her, special conversation with Cassie and later on. But I love like when she said, I told you, we shouldn't be here. My crumb sock, I gotta go back to the shop and then she pulls out that freaking board and just starts connecting things.
People that love switches and both are like losing their mind. But also even like the old timiness of like grabbing connectors. It's 1977. Yeah.
No, 100%. And I do, I agree with you a little bit though. I love her as a character. I love that Luther may be this badass, but she doesn't give up.
Like she doesn't care. She'll tell him how it is. She'll be like, I told you this was gonna happen and you wanted to come to this party and look where we are now. Because he's, he's, he's loses it a little bit.
Like his patience sometimes is not the best. Like, Oh, I feel from time. She's like, I told you, we're gonna have cars. We're compromised out here.
We can't call so just relax. I'll deal with it when I can. I shouldn't even be here. So I love that that she's that character that has to put him in his place in terms of calm down.
I'll deal with it. And her interaction with Val too, it's really good because Val again, is part of this rebellion, but we're still in the kind of sleeper cell version of this rebellion. Not all these people know each other, not everybody knows who's doing what and who's involved with what. And I love that she knows.
Obviously these people are the the the collars, right? The shot collars. And she's like, what are you guys doing here? Like what's going on?
Like how can we, and we know she still has ties to it because of Sinta and you know, having somebody there. And I just love that interaction of them of her being like, Hey, we're just here at a wedding. Let's have some fun. We're looking at single men.
And then you know, Val looks at her like, yeah, I, you know, I did that. It's list of it took me. I don't know what to think about that scene because she's a clay. I kind of, oh, we're just two single people enjoying the party, two single people looking at what's available.
And then they started each other and Sinta kind of walks away. I don't know. I took that. I don't know.
It's clay. I think I think I think I think they're like, I think they're like, and they're all separated in season one. So I don't know. I think she's starting to realize there's more there.
And she's being like, okay, let me keep an eye on this. And even actually when when she's about to leave and she tells Luther and like, Hey, I'm leaving. I found the ride. I thought it was going to be with the, I thought they were leaving together, you know, but then that didn't happen.
So yeah, no, she had to wait and see someone else arrive. But I love fairies. Yes. So now she's there in two shows.
The pre wedding speech that Barry gave his daughter later, right, which I'm sorry, my mother, she's trying to try her best as a mother, but she just doesn't want anything to do with her. That scene was a bit heartbreaking when she's trying to stop the wedding and tell her, especially at the comfort in her early on when she had an argument with the Lofi and say, and she's like, I wish you were drunk. Like, I'm gonna do this. I don't care if it's tradition.
She likes, she wants to go along with it. But I love the parents speech, which is in reality, if you think about it, it kind of touches a little bit everyone's life. And it's like, things are gonna happen. It doesn't matter what you try.
Things are gonna happen. You gotta roll along with it. And that kind of made me think about the marriage, him and Mon Mo's and I like, Hey, we try to make it work. Things happen.
It didn't go as we planned, but we're doing the best that we can with it right now. Well, you gotta find joy. You gotta try to laugh. You gotta find joy and life because that world is gonna try to bring you down and crumble you down.
So if you find a little bit of joy stick with it, so I love that they got a chance to speak a little bit there. How are you feeling about pairing and maybe being a little different about with someone in system one? I mean, let's see. It was just my speech.
But I like to, and I'm a parent defender. Not a defender. I'm a believer. I believe he has the chance to change.
But I think it was a pretty speech and being like, Hey, there's a lot of distractions in life. The happy moments are a few and far between. So enjoy them. Make sure you make the best out of them.
But not just that. I really liked how he was like, the bad stuff will come, whether you want it or not. It'll come to you. It'll happen.
But the good stuff you have to keep an eye like if you don't actually, like if you don't move towards those happy moments, you're not gonna get anywhere and all you're gonna have are these bad moments. So you do have to kind of put him the effort, which I do think kind of is why I think there is still a space for him and Mothma's relationship to get a little better because he's kind of saying like, Hey, yeah, the bad stuff happens. You can't do much about that. But you have to get the good.
You have to follow the good. So I don't know, I'm I'm a believer in parents redemption. It's someone that's having a lot of bad stuff happen. As we said, it's take home.
He goes again for a second time to Mothma to kind of make his point. That's when he being never scold and into this. And then Mothma has to go, Oh, actually, yeah, like Mothma and Louta has this discussion and Louta's like, he's been suffering the whole night. We're gonna deal with this.
We're gonna deal with it now. And Mothma, they all talk with him next week. I'll find a price. You know the price.
You know the number. We gotta take care of his like, I don't know what you're saying. How nice of how good for you. So you don't understand we gotta kill the guy.
Don't you get it. And then I don't realize that something gets drunk with a new me. I'm also ready mix. I love that line when he's going.
She's like, I don't know what you're saying. And he's like, must be nice for you. Yeah, must be nice for you. Oh, well, and again, the reality of this war.
And and we had, here's what I love. Season one, we had the amazing speech by Stella and Scars Gardas Loothen, right? Here, he was like, forget the speech. Yeah.
One single line. And I'm gonna kill all of you. And I love that because that's exactly right. He's like, you don't understand what we have to do.
It's great that you have this money that you want to put into this effort. It's great that you believe in the cause. And it's great that you want to be against the empire. But you need to understand the dark side of things and like a character that we haven't seen yet.
But we know we're seeing like Sagarara, the perfect example. He's the other extreme. He's like, it's only the bad stuff that we can do if we want to win, right? And there obviously has to be a middle ground, right?
But I love that because Mothma is learning. She's being like, yeah, I'm gonna have to get my hands dirty if I actually want to do this. This isn't just me being like blind to what's happening. I will say, and this is, I know that books and the live action, the live action take over the book in terms of not what's canon, but in reign of the empire, path of fear, that first book.
And I'm once for everything. Or there's been out for about two months now. Mothma does kill someone in terms of leaving her vision of how you need to fight the empire. And I guess all these things just for the goal.
Congratulations. Yeah, but so Mothma knows about getting her hands, she killed someone who was going to kill someone very high up in the empire. And I will leave it there. But I think it's more, I don't think that Tony Giro knew about that.
So those don't come as a shock to Mothma. They need to kill someone. I think if I want to take it, she did what happened on the book and now years later, this is her friend. This is her friend.
This is someone she's known for years. So maybe that really says she's the one that's throwing her off because she did, unfortunately something very bad. Not very bad. She believed it was the right cause.
But yeah, it was great to see her reaction to it. And then that leads to that plus the reaction for a daughter. The only thing she could do at that point was just drown her sorrows, I guess, or the depression she was going to and just dance it away. But the big thing is the end is that the animals makes way.
They got to release that shit. Yeah. By the way, the Star Wars official youth have dropped a one hour video of Mon Mothma dance. A one hour video.
The official page. So send us back. We were wondering where she was. And she said, right, Tony, say it, say it.
Miss Belinda Chandrila. So she came in. She won't take into the tortoise. Even though it was a blue taxi, he's gone.
He said we'll see the ramifications the next week when it's been a year ago. No, but we'll see. But we know we'll see Sinta again, of course. Yeah, I hope so.
I hope so. And no, I love this whole right first of all, having her in the same platform in two different shows as two very different characters, right? Because if you were saying to say like Monday Flynn, yeah, she was an Anglican warrior. Like, you know, we could kind of put that.
But with Belinda, like she's this nurse. She like loves life. She like wants to save people. She wants to help.
And we know Sinta's like, I'll do whatever I have to do in this regard. You know, I don't care. Yeah. All right.
So let's jump to our third little storyline. This Cassian's predicament. He's in the Sainar facility, testing facility again, another place that's being, if you read books on everything Star Wars Sainar is mentioned in every Thai fighter and in real studies, sorry, that's built comes from this place. We're able to see it.
As a guy who never remembers name, I just found out about this. No, I remember that. And the even the Thai adventure that we see for the first time, like that's from the video games. Yeah.
But I love that we have Cassian now giving the motivational speeches to someone that's defiting the Empire. Like you'll hear this makes it worth it. If we die, just this moment makes your life worth it. So it's great to see his kind of growth as a character so far.
By the way, I love that whole thing when she goes like telling him the story that they're gonna tell and being like, Oh, and we basically hooked up and he's like, Oh, yeah, like that. We can do that part of the one. We got a little Polish polish droid. Actually, Thai Avenger, my other man, the Polish Polish Polish.
Yeah, let's look and make all the doctor who's always gonna mention. It's no po-damaran. I'm sorry, po was gone out of there in two seconds. He couldn't get a crap out of there.
Yeah, but I do love the it's and it's something that we've seen, we've seen it in Rebels and we've seen it before. This rebellion kind of doesn't know what they're doing half of the time. They're just they're just getting at it like with the resistance later on, like they're a little bit more they're a gorilla. They're actually like a band like they have Leia Organa leading them.
They have an actual hierarchy. These people have no idea what they're doing. They're just like, we're gonna go steal the ship. Let's figure it out.
And I love how pissed he gets at them later being like, you didn't tell me anything that I need to know. But yeah, I love that scene. I love that that's our introduction to the character because they could have easily made him a po-damaran style, right? He's in there.
He's out. He's James Bond, right? But no, Cassian Andor is still kind of like a goofball at sometimes like, you know, he doesn't really know what he's doing half of the time. He makes it up as he goes along.
Yeah. I'll tell you when he lands in what now we know was Yavin as we know by the ending. I thought he went to Canary when he landed and we have all this forest planet. I'm like, oh my god, he's in Canary.