EPISODE · Jul 17, 2025 · 21 MIN
S14 E10: Hydrophilic vs Hydrophobic: Critical Nuances Beyond the Obvious with Charlie Lerman
from The DooDoo Diva's Smells Like Money Podcast · host Suzan Marie Chin-Taylor
In this episode, Suzan Chin-Taylor sits down with Charlie Lerman a.k.a. The Grout Geek, to demystify the real differences between hydrophilic and hydrophobic polyurethane grouts. It’s more than just water-loving vs. water-repelling—this episode dives into flexibility vs. rigidity, reaction times, environmental conditions, and why real-world field performance often differs from lab tests.Whether you're dealing with crack sealing, I&I control, or freeze-thaw environments, this episode will help you choose the right product for the job—and avoid costly rework.🔍 What You’ll Learn:- Why flexibility matters more than water affinity- How reaction timing and viscosity affect performance- When to choose hydrophilic or hydrophobic grouts based on site conditions- The financial costs of recurring leaks and bad grout choices- Why manufacturer consultation is key—even for pros🎯 Pro Tips from Charlie "The Grout Geek" Lerman:- Hydrophilics need moisture, not saturation.- Hydrophobics work well in dry and freeze-prone environments.- Use flexible grouts for cracks and movement-prone joints.- Don’t just go by datasheets—ask the manufacturer!🧠 If you're a contractor, engineer, or municipal pro, this episode is a must-listen for smarter infrastructure repair decisions.👉 Connect with Charlie Lerman🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlielerman🌐 ncfigeo.com📧 [email protected]🎧 Subscribe to the Smells Like Money Podcast:Don’t forget to subscribe to the Smells Like Money Podcast for more insights and innovations in the wastewater industry. Follow us on creativeraven.com/smells-like-money-podcast for updates and more episodes.I hope you find this episode as informative and as exciting as we have.Please let us know your thoughts about the episode!Connect with Suzan Chin-Taylor, host of The DooDoo Diva's Smells Like Money Podcast:Website: www.creativeraven.com | https://thetuitgroup.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/creativeraven/Email: [email protected] Telephone: +1 760-217-8010Listen and subscribe here to your favorite platform:Apple Podcast - Google Podcast - Cast Box - Overcast - Pocket Casts - YouTube - Spotifyhttps://creativeraven.com/smells-like-money-podcast/ Subscribe to the Podcast:https://creativeraven.com/smells-like-money-podcast/Be a guest on our show:https://calendly.com/thetuitgroup/be-a-podcast-guestCheck Out my NEW Digital Marketing E-Course & Coaching Program just for Wastewater Pros:https://store.thetuitgroup.com/diy-digital-marketing-playbook-for-wastewater-pros#SmellsLikeMoney #GroutGeek #HydrophilicVsHydrophobic #SewerSolutions #WastewaterIndustry #PolyurethaneGrout #InfrastructureRepair #CreativeRaven #NCFIRocks #IandIControl
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In this episode, Suzan Chin-Taylor sits down with Charlie Lerman a.k.a. The Grout Geek, to demystify the real differences between hydrophilic and hydrophobic polyurethane grouts. It’s more than just water-loving vs. water-repelling—this episode dives into flexibility vs. rigidity, reaction times, environmental conditions, and why real-world field performance often differs from lab tests.Whether you're dealing with crack sealing, I&I control, or freeze-thaw environments, this episode will help you choose the right product for the job—and avoid costly rework.🔍 What You’ll Learn:- Why flexibility matters more than water affinity- How reaction timing and viscosity affect performance- When to choose hydrophilic or hydrophobic grouts based on site conditions- The financial costs of recurring leaks and bad grout choices- Why manufacturer consultation is key—even for pros🎯 Pro Tips from Charlie "The Grout Geek" Lerman:- Hydrophilics need moisture, not saturation.- Hydrophobics work well in dry and freeze-prone environments.- Use flexible grouts for cracks and movement-prone joints.- Don’t just go by datasheets—ask the manufacturer!🧠 If you're a contractor, engineer, or municipal pro, this episode is a must-listen for smarter infrastructure repair decisions.👉 Connect with Charlie Lerman🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlielerman🌐 ncfigeo.com📧 [email protected]🎧 Subscribe to the Smells Like Money Podcast:Don’t forget to subscribe to the Smells Like Money Podcast for more insights and innovations in the wastewater industry. Follow us on creativeraven.com/smells-like-money-podcast for updates and more episodes.I hope you find this episode as informative and as exciting as we have.Please let us know your thoughts about the episode!Connect with Suzan Chin-Taylor, host of The DooDoo Diva's Smells Like Money Podcast:Website: www.creativeraven.com | https://thetuitgroup.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/creativeraven/Email: [email protected] Telephone: +1 760-217-8010Listen and subscribe here to your favorite platform:Apple Podcast - Google Podcast - Cast Box - Overcast - Pocket Casts - YouTube - Spotifyhttps://creativeraven.com/smells-like-money-podcast/ Subscribe to the Podcast:https://creativeraven.com/smells-like-money-podcast/Be a guest on our show:https://calendly.com/thetuitgroup/be-a-podcast-guestCheck Out my NEW Digital Marketing E-Course & Coaching Program just for Wastewater Pros:https://store.thetuitgroup.com/diy-digital-marketing-playbook-for-wastewater-pros#SmellsLikeMoney #GroutGeek #HydrophilicVsHydrophobic #SewerSolutions #WastewaterIndustry #PolyurethaneGrout #InfrastructureRepair #CreativeRaven #NCFIRocks #IandIControl
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