S1E25 | A Safety Program on Paper Is Worse Than None feat. Jesse Phillips

Most contractors think safety problems happen because they don't have enough policies.Jesse Phillips sees a different problem.The companies that struggle most often aren't missing safety programs.They have safety programs nobody follows.In this episode of Builders, Makers, Doers, Elliot Bassett sits down with Jesse Phillips, Director of Safety at Ellerbrock-Norris, to discuss what actually creates safer jobsites, stronger accountability, and better business outcomes.The conversation goes beyond OSHA, PPE, and compliance requirements and gets to the real issue: operational discipline.If your company has policies on paper but struggles with execution in the field, this episode will hit close to home.IN THIS EPISODEWhy paperwork creates false confidenceThe leadership mistake most safety programs makeWhat data centers are forcing contractors to learnWhy experienced crews become the highest-risk crewsThe hidden cost behind preventable incidentsThe accountability gap hiding inside most safety programsWHO THIS EPISODE IS FOR ContractorsConstruction company ownersTrade business operatorsProject managersField leadersSafety professionalsOperations leadersGUEST INFORMATIONJesse Phillips, CHSTDirector of SafetyEllerbrock-NorrisLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-phillips-chst-755672265/ Website: https://www.ellerbrock-norris.com/▶ Watch the full episode and subscribe to Builders, Makers, Doers for more conversations with operators, builders, and business owners.Stay Connected & Follow the MovementFollow Builders, Makers, Doers on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/ellerbrock-norris/ Grab a copy of Andy Bassett’s bookhttps://www.ellerbrock-norris.com/book CONNECT WITH THE HOSTSAndy BassettCEO, Ellerbrock-Norrishttps://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-bassett-cpcu-cic-7711853/ Elliot BassettPresident and Partner, Ellerbrock-Norrishttps://www.linkedin.com/in/elliot-bassett-aip-cpcu-84499515/ https://www.ellerbrock-norris.com/ CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction to Jesse Phillips and Safety Leadership01:34 How Construction Safety Has Changed02:32 Why Safety Programs Fail Without Enforcement04:14 The Data Center Effect on Construction Safety07:22 Documentation Doesn't Create Accountability11:07 What Jesse Looks For on Every Jobsite13:00 The Real Danger of Complacency14:05 Why Corrective Actions Matter17:11 Safety Culture Takes Time to Build20:18 What Contractors Get Wrong About OSHA27:40 The Wildest Safety Stories Jesse Has Seen30:16 Final Lessons for ContractorsWe often talk about the 10 impact areas of risk within a business. Now, you can join us for a FREE Resiliency Audit. In 30 minutes, we'll comb through your business, find where you may be at risk, and deliver a detailed plan on how to address the issues. Time to stop being reactive – and commit to being proactive. Schedule your audit today.  You clearly like learning how other businesses are building resiliency. From the people the hire to their safety practices, risk management strategies, exit planning and more. Now, you can do a deep dive on YOUR business – for free. We'll dive into your business and deliver a detailed report that shows you actionable next steps and potential cost long-term savings. Sign up today at www.ellerbrock-norris.com/resiliency.