S2 E3: What Do You Want Your Service to Mean to the People Closest to You? (with Patrick Wallace)

What this episode covers

Season Two of Just Curious is about service, awe, and joy—but not in the abstract. It’s about what your service actually means to the people who share your classrooms, your living room, and your life. In this episode, Rob is joined by his longtime friend Patrick Wallace, Assistant Upper School Director at Chadwick School. They’ve co-designed classes together, grown in leadership side by side, and at one point, Patrick and his wife, Samantha, asked Rob to stand with them as the officiant at their wedding. This is not a formal interview—it’s two friends reflecting on what good work and faithful friendship look like up close. Together, they: Tell the story of how their friendship grew out of shared work and a co-designed class Reflect on what it meant for Rob to officiate Patrick’s wedding—and how that moment sits on each of their “ledgers” of service Talk about how Patrick understands service now as an upper school leader: the days that feel like “this is good work” with students, families, and faculty Share how Rob is serving from outside school buildings in this season, through Project Uplift, consulting, fatherhood, and friendship Ask, honestly: When all is said and done, what do we want our service to have meant to the people who actually know us best? Rather than mapping out strategy or listing accomplishments, this episode leans into relationship: friendship as a form of service, leadership as care, and the quiet hope that the people closest to us will be able to say, “You showed up for me.” Guiding question for this episode: What do you want your service to mean to the people closest to you? As always, the goal isn’t to hand you answers, but to offer a conversation you can overhear while you hold your own questions.

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