S2 Ep19: Still Hopeful

In lieu of a new conversation this week, Mike and Vonia listen back on the very first episode they ever recorded, and invite you to do the same. It was early November, 2020, which feels like several decades ago. "The Queens Gambit" and "The Undoing" were all the rage on TV, Vonia was constantly in a Zoom meeting, and Mike hadn't flown on a plane in almost a year. And, unlike Mike's prediction, we did not know the results of the election by the time this episode came out. What a world!