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EPISODE · Jan 3, 2026 · 18 MIN

S2E293: Fixing Education at the State Level, Part 2: From Policy to Practice

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In Part 2 of the conversation, MacKenzie wraps up the discussion with Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt and policy expert Jon Schnur, expanding the conversation further to include insights from state and workforce leaders across the country. Dan Hamlin, Oklahoma’s Secretary of Education, Mary Cypress Metz of Tennessee’s State Collaborative on Reforming Education, and Maria Flynn, President and CEO of Jobs for the Future share on-the-ground perspectives on what’s working, what’s broken, and what it will take to connect education reform to real economic opportunity for students and communities.

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This episode features five different leaders from across states and systems, sharing practical insights on what education reform looks like when policy meets reality.

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