EPISODE · Oct 26, 2025 · 3H 21M
S3 Ep. 30 Pies, Theft, and Murder: More Christadelphian True Crime with Zinnia & Pete
from The Life After Leaving Podcast: An Ex-Christadelphian Podcast · host lifeafterleavingpodcast
In today’s episode, Zinnia and Pete discuss six more historical examples of criminality among the Christadelphians that were not covered in our first true crime episode- from investigations into meat pies and hate speech, to missing charitable funds, and even murder! Let’s get into the spirit of spooky season as we discuss childhood medical neglect and speculate on why religious communities are so skeptical of modern medicine and vaccines, the passivity of believers who follow a “Jesus take the wheel” approach to their life, and about how the “punishment” for embezzlement looks a lot like a reward, or even condoning theft of charitable funds! We also look at how criminal investigations were handled during the early days of Christadelphia under Robert Roberts compared to the present day (hint: there were no secret meetings or letters). And we also have a few laughs as we learn about the Christadelphian view on sex toys, contrast modern medicine with biblical medicine, and discover (while recording!) that the thisisyourbible.com website was apparently hacked years ago and no one noticed! Also, please don’t send me your opinions on vaccines. However, feel free to send me your favorite “biblical loopholes” or additional information relating to any of these stories to [email protected]! Thanks in advance! Listener discretion advised. TW: Childhood Medical Neglect, Manslaughter Charges, Domestic Violence, Violent Murder Resources and References: Spooky Intro Music Inspired by The Addams Family Theme Song Thank you to the ex-CD who snapped with me for this! John Thomas, honorary mention: The Life After Leaving Podcast: Episode 6 True Crime with Keturah Anatomy: A Love Story by Dana Schwartz The Life After Leaving Podcast: Episode 26 Liar, Liar The Case of the Bad Meat: “The History of the Christadelphians 1864-1885” by Andrew Wilson The Christadelphian Magazine: November 1881, December 1881, and January 1882 The Christadelphian Ecclesial Guide by Robert Roberts (1883) Mid-Atlantic Christadelphian Bible School History Skit Performance Naegleria fowleri Sweeney Todd East Kilbride Scandal: National Secular Society: NSS refers Christian charity to regulator for anti-vax memes Daily Record in February 2022 Another Daily Record Article in February 2022 Daily Record in June 2022 East Kilbride Christadelphians Facebook Medicine in the Bible The Satanic Temple Satanists Unveil Lucifer Statue Design for Oklahoma Capitol (2014) One Christadelphian on the East Kilbride Christadelphians Does the rainbow “belong only to God”? (IG) Can Christadelphians Use Sex Toys? Charity or Hate Group? 2019 Article investigating hate group claims/ This Is Your Bible NSS Dossier on Christadelphian Charities ThisIsYourBible.com on Human Rights United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights Cambridge University: Autistic Individuals More Likely to be LGBTQ+ Cambridge University: Autistic Individuals have increased risk of Physical Health Conditions Autism Unemployment Rate TIME Magazine: Asperger’s Syndrome, the Nazi Regime, and the Dangerous Power of Labeling People Autism and Disability in Nazi Vienna Describing neurotypicals like they describe autistic people (FB) “Neurotypical Spectrum Disorder” (Reddit) Anti-Defamation League Definition of a Hate Group Christadelphian Care Homes Report This is Your Bible Website shares bizarre (broken?) link under “Human Rights” Wayback Machine: The Christadelphian Daily Journal on Human Rights “[1] In passing, we remark that God has not given anyone demandable rights of any sort.” Report of Charity Commissions Investigation and Compliance Case Work: 2012-2013 The Paradox of Tolerance Michael Ashton Embezzlement: Birmingham Christian charity faces probe over alleged disappearance of hundreds of thousands of pounds Feb 2012 Christadelphian Research Web Archive June 2015 The Christadelphian Magazine, January 2012, April 2016, July 2022 Ex-Christadelphians.com Michael Ashton Books Ex-Christadelphians.com Forgiving Your Brother Ecclesial Guide by Robert Roberts The Danger of Cults by Michael Ashton Medical Neglect and Death of a Child: “Girl Dies on Water Diet” November 1975 The Lancet ‘A Case of Imperforate Anus’ by John Thomas Joe Dispenza, chiropractor 2023 study of the Followers of Christ church The Guardian article on Religious Medical Neglect 1998 Study on Medical Neglect Deaths 2011 Study on Faith Healing Deaths Dr. Alec Burton- HealthScience.org Fasting For Health and Recovery (Video) by Alec Burton Alec Burton Obituary Thank you God- Tim Minchin (Youtube) Brother Brian Murder, Murder Plots, and Attempted Prison Escape: BBC News Jealous Man Gets Life For Murder BBC News: Isle of Wight Prison Helicopter Escape Foiled HeraldNet UK murderers outlandish jail escape plot foiled Helicopter Prison Escapes Murderers Isle of Wight Escape Plot Foiled BBC News Isle of Wight Prison Security Lapse Let Drugs In The Guardian ‘Blindsided wife of Long Island serial killer suspect files for divorce’ The Telegraph ‘Teacher So Jealous He Tried to Kill All His Rivals’ The Telegraph ‘Jealous ex-teacher convicted of murder’ Berkshire Live ‘Obsessed Teacher Guilty of Murder’ BBC News ‘Jealous ex killed lover’s friend’ The Guardian ‘Murderer’s Isle of Wight escape plot foiled’ BBC News ‘Isle of Wight Prison Helicopter Escape Foiled’ Herald Net ‘Murderer’s Outlandish Prison Escape Plot Foiled’ Isle of Wight prison security lapse ‘let drugs in’
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In today’s episode, Zinnia and Pete discuss six more historical examples of criminality among the Christadelphians that were not covered in our first true crime episode- from investigations into meat pies and hate speech, to missing charitable funds, and even murder! Let’s get into the spirit of spooky season as we discuss childhood medical neglect and speculate on why religious communities are so skeptical of modern medicine and vaccines, the passivity of believers who follow a “Jesus take the wheel” approach to their life, and about how the “punishment” for embezzlement looks a lot like a reward, or even condoning theft of charitable funds! We also look at how criminal investigations were handled during the early days of Christadelphia under Robert Roberts compared to the present day (hint: there were no secret meetings or letters). And we also have a few laughs as we learn about the Christadelphian view on sex toys, contrast modern medicine with biblical medicine, and discover (while recording!) that the thisisyourbible.com website was apparently hacked years ago and no one noticed! Also, please don’t send me your opinions on vaccines. However, feel free to send me your favorite “biblical loopholes” or additional information relating to any of these stories to [email protected]! Thanks in advance! Listener discretion advised. TW: Childhood Medical Neglect, Manslaughter Charges, Domestic Violence, Violent Murder Resources and References: Spooky Intro Music Inspired by The Addams Family Theme Song Thank you to the ex-CD who snapped with me for this! John Thomas, honorary mention: The Life After Leaving Podcast: Episode 6 True Crime with Keturah Anatomy: A Love Story by Dana Schwartz The Life After Leaving Podcast: Episode 26 Liar, Liar The Case of the Bad Meat: “The History of the Christadelphians 1864-1885” by Andrew Wilson The Christadelphian Magazine: November 1881, December 1881, and January 1882 The Christadelphian Ecclesial Guide by Robert Roberts (1883) Mid-Atlantic Christadelphian Bible School History Skit Performance Naegleria fowleri Sweeney Todd East Kilbride Scandal: National Secular Society: NSS refers Christian charity to regulator for anti-vax memes Daily Record in February 2022 Another Daily Record Article in February 2022 Daily Record in June 2022 East Kilbride Christadelphians Facebook Medicine in the Bible The Satanic Temple Satanists Unveil Lucifer Statue Design for Oklahoma Capitol (2014) One Christadelphian on the East Kilbride Christadelphians Does the rainbow “belong only to God”? (IG) Can Christadelphians Use Sex Toys? Charity or Hate Group? 2019 Article investigating hate group claims/ This Is Your Bible NSS Dossier on Christadelphian Charities ThisIsYourBible.com on Human Rights United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights Cambridge University: Autistic Individuals More Likely to be LGBTQ+ Cambridge University: Autistic Individuals have increased risk of Physical Health Conditions Autism Unemployment Rate TIME Magazine: Asperger’s Syndrome, the Nazi Regime, and the Dangerous Power of Labeling People Autism and Disability in Nazi Vienna Describing neurotypicals like they describe autistic people (FB) “Neurotypical Spectrum Disorder” (Reddit) Anti-Defamation League Definition of a Hate Group Christadelphian Care Homes Report This is Your Bible Website shares bizarre (broken?) link under “Human Rights” Wayback Machine: The Christadelphian Daily Journal on Human Rights “[1] In passing, we remark that God has not given anyone demandable rights of any sort.” Report of Charity Commissions Investigation and Compliance Case Work: 2012-2013 The Paradox of Tolerance Michael Ashton Embezzlement: Birmingham Christian charity faces probe over alleged disappearance of hundreds of thousands of pounds Feb 2012 Christadelphian Research Web Archive June 2015 The Christadelph
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