S3E5 | Mike Bird | A theologian who thinks secularism is a particularly good thing

Rob talks to Mike Bird, the Academic Dean at Ridley Theological College Melbourne, on the importance of secularism in contemporary Australian life and about his recent book Religious Freedom in a Secular Age (Harper Collins, May 2022). Mike contends that with a secular government religious bodies do not control the state and the state does not control religious bodies—to the benefit of both. They also discuss the threats to a secular government, which come surprisingly not from religious bodies but from those opposed to religion. The possibility of a peace between LGBTQI+ rights and religious freedom is canvassed.