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S4 E26 Torture

from Live Forever · host Dan Glaser, Steve Chase, Brent Smith

This week Steve and Dan discuss the history of torture. What kind of pain could you inflict to get some answers? Write to us at [email protected]

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I just watched that again. The Ghostbusters afterlife. Oh, yeah, dude. I liked it.

It was good again after life. That's the new one, right? Yeah with the kid. You got on.

It's like I never saw it. What? I know, right? I fucked up.

I should watch it. It's fucking dope, dude. And it's it's designed in such a way that I think that it could actually breathe some life back into the franchise. Whereas the one with I don't know what to fuck the women.

Yeah. I mean, I'm not I mean it was okay. Massage in a stick, but like they fucked that shit up. They fucked that movie up.

Do you think it's kind of funny that so it was a female gas and the best part was still a dude. Right? Chris. Yeah.

Chris. That was awesome. Yeah, that's pretty hilarious. Yeah.

When it was like something loud happened and he covered his eyes. Yeah. Yeah. He's fucking.

Yeah. We've had like a two week sabbatical. Yeah, man. I had to go for some training in Florida.

See my bro. Cool. Everything. Cool with them.

Into a little kid basketball game. Really? She was dope. Little kids playing tough.

Yeah, pretty tough, dude. Like 10-12, dude. Oh, yeah. Running rampant out there.

Yeah, my nephew's 10. I'm another fucker. It's probably five four at this point. Oh, maybe five two.

Like he's a tall kid. Yeah. So do they like lower the basket down like some or? Yeah.

What's funny is they hate it. Really? I never you hates it because he's like I shoot on 10. So he's shooting like regular shots at the house, but then he gets there and he has to readjust this whole form.

Yeah, that's crazy. I was screaming at him more than my brother was. My brother's a coach. Oh shit.

Really? Yeah. And because I guess they're it's just like a league at the Y or some shit. Right.

Like a school league. And I guess it's mostly just to keep my nephew like doing something. Something. Because you know, he really likes football, but I mean, even at 10, he's like, I mean, that's stupid.

Like people just get hurt playing football. Yeah. He's like, I don't really want to have a concussion and like can't remember my name when I'm 20. I mean, I played not a bad point, dude.

I think the first sport I played was Pop Warner Baseball. I never was good at basketball. No, I was a tall kid. Like I was taller than most of the other kids in my class, but I could not play basketball to save my life.

Like we would go in gym class and I would be like, this is how you do it lay up. And I'd be like, yeah, I mean, this is how you miss the basket completely. We played a basketball. I mean that Indiana, who's your thing is fucking real.

Yeah, everybody plays basketball in Indiana. You come out of your mom's womb with the basketball. Kind of. Yeah.

But but at 10, dude, I couldn't do this shit. They were doing really. Yeah, man. At one point, my nephew fucking went coast to coast.

I mean, he missed the shot, but still, but I challenged a fucking grown up that doesn't regularly play basketball to dribble from one end of the court and take a jump shot. Yeah, I'm not the one. It's not easy to do. And he's fucking like, Jukin kids like, give him a little, give him a little heat out there.

Yeah. What do you mean, coach? I didn't hit him. Yeah.

Yeah. Like I said, I never got into the basketball thing. Now I played Little League Baseball. Yeah, me too.

Which I was pretty good at. I played like, okay, center field, but my biggest thing was like, I would literally, it didn't matter. I was fucking swinging on it. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I was to the fences every time I went to the fucking wall every time I swung. And it, you know, sometimes it would connect and I'd get some good hits. But other times it's just like, whiffing. I mean, it's better than just standing up there.

Yeah. There's lots of kids that would just stay in there, never swing at it. I got in so much trouble one time because my grandpa or referee or he was like, yeah, he was the umpire. Oh shit.

And he made like a shit. I thought it was a shit call. Yeah. And I'm on the back field and I'm like yelling at my grandfather, like gets the glasses.

I got my ass beat. Like it probably like shouldn't have got my ass beat, but it was still like it. Yeah, my dad saw that shit and he was so he was like, do not disrespect your grandmother. Yeah, it was crazy.

And then I was real man. Then I did play football. I was I fucking loved football. I can see living.

I was a nose guard and it was just like, I can't wait to kill everyone in front of me. Exactly. And my coach literally would tell us every game. He's like, and remember boys, football field is the only place you can legally mug somebody.

And that shit stuck with me like, I don't know why every game I was just like, who am I going to put in the hospital this time? Yeah. I mean, we we actually did really good. We ended up going to our regional playoffs, which for us, I was playing in Delaware at the time.

And we went to North Carolina. It was like, Oh, that's huge. Yeah, it was a big thing. Yeah, especially in another another state, but you kind of had to and Delaware.

Yeah, not like we had nothing there, man. Facilities. All right, kids, go out here and cut this corner down so we can get a field lined up. But, uh, yeah, the team we were supposed to play like either dropped out of it or something and they put us up against this team that was notorious for fucking people up.

We lost every quarterback we had. They took me off nose guard, put me on like defensive and and fucking safety and shit. And I'm like, yeah, because these guys, the night we weren't even halfway through the game and their nose guard came in, shot past our line, hit our quarterback, got up under his pads and popped him up in the air, dude landed on his fucking head and like, damn, the air broke his fucking neck. And I was like, yeah, these boys came to win.

They came to whip our ass like it was bad. We ended up, we ended up forfeiting. We quit. Holy fuck.

And like our whole team was just crushed. We're like freaking out and we're yelling at the coach like, come on. We're like, at that point, we're angry. We're like, you know, man, I'm about to get a knife and go.

But yeah, it was crazy. Everybody was all worked up and they're like, no, we're not gonna, we're not gonna let you guys get hurt. Like, give us a bat. Something shit.

Damn. It was bad. Well, I don't think they were doing any of that. But still a good call.

And if you don't football is fucked up. Yeah. It's for some. I am.

But it's crazy to look at kids now in sports. Oh, yeah. Because I mean, we didn't know anything. So I mean, there's the training now.

And actually, it was kind of crazy to hear my brother say it. But he was like, yeah, I think he's gonna go basketball because I mean, if you want to take anything seriously, now is like, when you have to start getting serious, he was like, yeah, this league is bullshit. And I almost don't want him playing in it. Because you know, none of the kids can play.

Right. And he's like, we only get one practice with these kids a week. Really? So and you know, it's how do you play?

I don't know if they paid to be in it or if it's voluntary or what, but it's not like there's tryouts. Is there other wives that are coming around? Yeah, there's like other teams, you know, it's like a kind of like youth group, youth center kind of thing. And you know, all most of the kids suck.

Right. You know, but they don't have any skill. But you know, once he gets to, you know, like a school level, it's gonna be a lot tougher. Yeah, I mean, but getting them introduced and if it's something that he enjoys, you know, then it's actually, you know, as long as he's in it, you know, he may not be getting the highest level of training or whatever, but at least he's getting the fundamentals and all that.

So when he does go to school, where it's available, then he likes it. I mean, he collects, you know, like cards and stuff. He watches the games. He's like, he's super into it.

Right. I just, I mean, I like watching basketball. I went to Sixers game years and years and years and I think I was 16, maybe younger. Only basketball game I ever went to was a Pacers game because we were Bulls fans and we couldn't afford Bulls tickets.

Well, Michael Jordan retired. Remember, he went and played like Mindleagu Baseball or whatever. Yeah, it was something weird. So it was the craziest shit ever because the game he came back was the game we had tickets to.

Nice. Yeah, it was the game in Indianapolis. Dude, walking into the stadium, we were offered $500 a piece for our tickets. This is late 90s, bro.

500 a ticket is a lot of money. A lot of money, a lot of money. And we were just like, fuck, no, we're watching this game. Yeah, this is epic.

Yeah, it was amazing. We were like at the hotel, because we stayed down there, we get down there and we're like, fucking around in the pool, comes on the news like, Unconfirmed reports, Michael Jordan is in the building, dressed out and we're like, what? He's gonna play. He like came back that night.

Nice. They ended up losing the game, but it was awesome. My brother met Tony Kukuch. Yeah, I don't know who that is.

He was the, I think he's Ukrainian. I don't know, Ukrainian, Russian, something. He's probably like a giant. He was a tall, white dude, badass.

He came off the bench, but was pretty kick ass. And that was right before their second. Like, because they didn't really do much that year because Jordan came back mid-year, and they were already not really putting anything together. Yeah.

But that was the year before they did another like three championship run. Right on top of it. Yeah. Actually, they added Rodman and do all that shit.

Yeah. I wish I, I don't know. I mean, part of me wishes I got into sports more. I just, I don't know, man, like it's hard for me to watch the NBA anymore because the only time I'm really different.

Yeah. Well, the only time I like watching NBA is during the playoffs or like college basketball is pretty dope. College basketball. Because they play like hard.

Like, I feel like they're putting more into it. Yeah. Um, yeah. I'm just going to watch during the season as NFL.

Yeah. Just because I'm a bear fan and I like torturing myself. The bears watching them all the time make horrible decisions. Yeah.

And then I guess the other part of it is like, if I can't play, I don't, I don't even want to watch it. So very childish. But it's kind of like, you know, I'd rather be on the field. The only blows my mind is like fucking golf.

Like I get, I get golf. I've played it a lot. Not a huge amount, but you know, I like it. But watching it blows my mind.

It's gotta be like when somebody's like, what do you see a fucking film, Nicholson on the fucking 16th hole? I'm like, no, dude, I was on the 14th. I wasn't trying to take an app. Right.

Which is all the golf is good for. Isn't that? That's not background. Absolutely.

They always talk really quiet. He's lining up there. No, they're nowhere near the person. Right.

Taking the shot. They act like they're two feet behind the guy like, okay, he's lining up the putt. Looks like a bit of run. Shut up, Steve.

You're going to startle him. Right. You may have raised your voice a little bit too loud. Look.

Oh, he's out of the swing. So I seem to end up doing anything for Halloween? No, I'm very. Yeah.

And that gives me time to go ahead and put together a decent costume. Like Don, we went up to our favorite friends at top of the tab. Yeah. They had a little Halloween party up there.

Nice costume contest, which, you know, there was a few people up there. First year, you know, trying to get that ball rolling. It takes a little time. But yeah, I was bummed.

I ended up not doing a shipwreck because and I'm glad because I was about to buy a bunch of shit. You talking about shipwreck from GI Joe? Yeah. Well, I mean, my nephews really likes you.

I just I'm like, this'll be fucking dope. Hell yeah. And some like literally on the internet looking for a fucking parrot that I can attach to my shoulder for the costume and my brother's wife calls and she's like, so you're going to be down here for Halloween? I'm like, yeah, I'm actually looking for parts from my costume right now.

And she's like, okay, well, we're wondering if we should get you a pumpkin or not. Would you like to carve one? And I'm like, yeah, I don't see one of that. She's like, cool.

So you'll, uh, you'll be here on Tuesday then. I'm like, what? No, I'll be there the weekend before. Yeah.

Like, I don't know when this happened, but in Indiana, where I grew up, like the trick or treating was always like the weekend closest to Halloween. We never did it like on the day. Yeah. And she was like, Oh, no, we don't do anything the weekend before.

We do it all on that day. And like, yeah, it's weird to me. Yeah. Like there was a little Halloween party down there when I was there.

My nephew dressed up as one of those fucking wavy arm guys. Oh, which was hilarious. There was a video on TikTok and I'm assuming that the wavy arm thing was inflatable. Yeah, it was.

So this kid was dressed up as like an inflatable chicken and he farted in his seat. And he, the mom being like, I don't know, like it was hilarious, but I was thinking in my head like what a bitch. She's recording him. She's like, what's the matter?

He's like, I thought it did. But I see the kids like ready to cry. I guess he fumped himself out so bad. And I was like, Oh, God, it'd be so funny.

Just run around farting people's inflatable suits. I was getting him shit though, because I'm like, you're going to a Halloween party wearing that. And he's like, yeah, it's gonna be awesome. I'm like, bro, it's gonna be a bunch of other kids there.

And he's like, yeah, like you're gonna be in that thing fucking 10 minutes tops. And then do I, and he's like, this is hot. I want to get out. And he's like, no, I think it'll be all right.

I mean, it's not too hot tonight. And of course, it's four to that's fucking 85 degrees. And I'm like, all right, all right. But how are you gonna pee, dude?

And he like looks down, nose zippers, like his hands are outside. And the thing is like over his head, you've got a little space for your head to stay out. And then it's just straight down. I'm like, what happens if you got to go to the bathroom, dude?

And he's like, oh, like, world's around. It looks as mommy's like, what am I going to do? She's like, I'm gonna have to take the whole thing off and once right, I'm going to give you a Gatorade bottom and keep inside in your pocket. And then I'm messing with him.

I'm like, yeah, you're going to be like one of those kids at the earnal that take their pants all the way down. He's like, no, God, you just get me such shit memories, man. Oh, yeah. You remember that kid?

Yeah. It was like kindergarten first grade. You're like all up at the earnal like doing your thing and then there's a kid with his pants around his ankles. Like, dude, just what?

What are you doing? What's going on? This is what I do at home. And I'm like, you're not at home, man.

Yeah, you're in public. We don't want to look at your ass. So our school had those like floor to four foot high urinals. So I went to Galway to the floor.

And it was like first through fourth grade on the first floor and then fifth through eighth on the second floor. And I just happened to be downstairs. I was in middle school at the time. I just happened to be downstairs and needed to piss.

So I went into the men, you know, the boys were in there and I'm standing there and like, I didn't have a lot of nice shit. And when I got nice shit, I was like, fuck yeah, new fucking like hush puppy fucking banging ass shoes. Yeah, look nice. This little motherfucker walks in and I guess I don't know what the fuck like he just tried to shoot it straight down at the fucking bottom of the urinal straight pissed on my goddamn new shoes.

Oh no. I'm like, bro, and he was legit scared because I'm like in middle school already bigger than this motherfucker. And I'm like, y'all about to see how somebody gets the first grader to die. Oh my god, I was so pissed.

Literally like, Jesus. I mean, and what's funny is every time I go to Sam's, Sam's has those same urinals. So I'm like looking around, make sure nobody's getting right coming behind me and nothing like yo, go use the pot. You know, go use the stall.

Don't come near me. Yeah, like PTSD. Yeah, fucking ruined me for life to use the the tall urinals or Steve didn't like Ollies. There's a the store, Ollies.

Yeah, dude, I call it the ball washer. It's like a regular wall urinal. Yeah, doesn't go all the way to the floor. But this motherfucker is so high.

Like you can just lay your dick right on the motherfucker. You don't have to use your hands. It's so high up. It's just like to get that just and then when you're done, I guess just flush and wash your balls.

It's like so crazy. I can see you doing that. Probably not. Yeah.

Don't don't don't. Don't wash your balls in the urinals. Don't wash your balls in the urinal. Don't eat them in.

Don't touch anything. Yeah. Don't touch anything in there. It's gross.

Yeah. Don't let your dick on the bottom of your urinal. Please don't take any of these. I freak out at home when my ding-dong touches the toilet seat.

I don't like fucking and it's only like a rare occasion. Like that attaches it. Are you you know, taking a deuce and you get splashed back? Oh, a little Poseidon's Kiss.

Right. You remember that? That's so fucked up. I remember that meme or whatever it was.

It's like dude drops a deuce and the fucking wave looks like kisses. That's oh shit. Potty humor. So much fun.

Dude, did I tell you, uh, Brian or from Brian was driving back from Greenville and saw a fucking wolf? What? Yeah. One of the Red Wolves that are indigenous.

I'm not sure. Because there's coyotes. We have a lot of big-ass coyotes around here. And I'll tell you this.

I'm wondering if it was a coyote. Yeah. Because I was going down the road 52 in Goose Creek to that place we we know about. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. To work. Yeah. And dude, I saw a fucking coyote on the side of the road alive.

Yeah. And it was huge. And I'm like, that was bigger than any German Shepherd I've ever seen. And they're not really that they're not supposed to get that big, I guess.

But yeah, I saw one that like fucking I thought it was a skinwalker, dude. On a cheapo cobra. Yeah. As I'm Orangeburg at some fucking pet food place and they have like a railroad behind the place coyote back there.

Fucking tall as shit, dude. I'm like, why does it have such long legs? Like, I also like a Harry Potter werewolf. Kinda.

Yeah. Weird looking. Fucking weird. Probably had manes.

That's why I didn't have no hair. Yeah, coyotes are like where our hunt club was at in Holly Hill. It was like an issue out there. What do you mean?

Like, the Department of Natural Resources would come out and do sent traps. And basically it wasn't a trap. It was more of a gauge to see how many there were. Right.

So it would be a big circle of like white dust, like white powder. Probably gypsum if I had to guess, but they would put what's called stink bait in the middle, right? And it would attract them. And then as the animal came in to investigate, it would leave its imprints of his paws.

So they could tell by that, like variations in the paws, they could tell like a number. What size. How big these buckets are getting like we had we had I've had them run us into the our cabin that we had out there. We were all there was like three of us sitting outside drinking some beers.

And they started circling like right around our cabin area. Right. And they start yipping in the app and then the young ones, they start doing their weird shit and it's like, man, there's a lot of fucking cut like there had to be at least 10 to 15 coyotes just circling us. Fuck.

And we're like, yeah, let's let's take this party into the cabin. Y'all they're like fucking velociraptors, dude. They'll snatch. I mean, where is it Mount Pleasant?

They have signs like about your dogs because they'll come out and just like snatch your dogs while you're walking. Oh, yeah, it will fuck up a dog. Now, like one on one, like a good sized dog will generally fuck up a coyote if it's like a powerful dog. You know, if you got a pit bull or a German Shepherd or something, the problem is they use like, yeah, exactly.

And they use like fucking wolf tactics where they'll have like one by itself to draw in other animals and like run back to where the other ones are and then they fucking jump them. They gang jump them. Yeah, it's fucked up. Yeah, I saw a video like that and it was dogs like this dog was on this coyote's ass yipping on it.

Then as soon as it got so far out in this field, next to you know, these other two coyotes pop up and it's like, Oh shit. Yeah, run for your life. Have you seen the little armor suits they have for little dogs? No.

Oh my God, dude, it's hilarious. So you can buy these little suits for your dog. Like a little bubble? No, it's got fucking spikes on it.

Like, real close. Oh, something won't eat it. And then it's got longer like porcupine quills that stick out of it. So like if a fucking hawk or something came down, obviously you'd have to have like a chihuahua or something.

Right. But the first time I seen one, I was like, what the fuck is wrong with your dog, bro? Hey man, if your dog needs armor, we don't need that dog. Yeah, I don't want to have to protect put barding on my fucking dog.

Stupid. Only if it's cool like leather armor with spikes on it that he can use and that. Like the ones in Conan, the bratties with the big leather armor and the fucking little helmets on. So I could put a helmet on a rutweiler.

I'm all right with it. If like, it's like a little miniature saddle and then you put another animal on top. I'm muggy like a fucking hamster on a corgi or some shit. Right.

Here comes corgi and hammy. And corgi and hammy. The corgi and hammy, sure. I would too.

So where were you telling me for the show? You got into something last night. Yeah. What'd I get into?

I don't know. You went to some bar? Oh yeah. Yeah.

It was a friend of ours birthday party and went up there and celebrated with him. Had a pretty good time. Yeah. Yeah.

Me and the interesting people. Always. Well, the guy whose birthday is his name is Fuzzy. And I mean, automatically interesting dude.

Yeah. If you're openly willing to go by the name Fuzzy. Yep. You're either super dangerous or super gay.

I would go with the farthest one because yeah, maybe a combination of the both. But either way, somebody you don't want to fuck with super awesome guy. And yeah, like we talked about, I definitely want to bring him in and introduce some gnarly tales. Yeah, I don't even want to give it away.

Yeah, that's kind of one I'm good. I'm alluding to the element of surprise. But at some point encountered some otherworldly beings. Yeah, definitely want to do that.

Yeah, we all talk about I mean, I'm sure it's not easy to find somebody that's been like adopted by aliens or some shit. I'm sure any local say this out. Yeah. They touched my bio.

We should just go down to like a VFW and be like, tell me the most fucked up shit you've ever expected. Could you imagine the stories we'd get out of the car like even some of the stuff my dad told me about was like super fucked up. Once you're dead and I'm or something. Yeah, he was a mom.

So yeah, I mean, it was like that crazy tales like saying bamboo shoots. Yeah. Well, I mean, that was definitely a fucking thing they did over there was torture. Yeah, like what's the thing with the bamboo shoots under your fingernails?

It's because they grow there or something. No, no, no, that was just towards they would just like take splinters from bamboo and stick them on your nails. Like, have you ever gotten a splinter under your fingernail? Anything under your fingernail sucks.

Even if it just gets pulled back for a second. Yeah, I'm like, yeah. Yeah. And now they're gonna take a splinter and stick it up like anything.

Oh, but it was actually a myth busters and they proved it to be a fact because of the way bamboo grows. It's so fast growing. Yeah, that they would stake people out. Oh, they grow.

The bamboo shoots would grow right up through your body. Oh my God. So not only is it like a probably painful, but it's probably a very extended time type thing, you know, probably a couple of good weeks. And the whole time, it's just like growing through you.

Dude, yeah, like, I don't know if it was during mouth, but it was definitely an Asian thing. It was either Japanese or Chinese, uh, the fucking live boxes. Yeah, you were you were mentioning that. I don't even like, I don't even want to think about it.

I don't want to think about it. So like put you in a wooden box with a bunch of lie at the bottom and lie is very fucking corrosive, but it doesn't do anything unless it's activated by moisture. Right. So they would put you in a box in the sun.

What's in the box? Like in a burning man. Yeah. And as you sweat into the lie, you just fucking melt into the shit, dude, and there's no escape.

Just sit there and melt in your mouth. That might be the gnarliest thing I've ever heard. Because as you, I mean, obviously, as you would start, like your flesh would start getting, your skin would eat away. Yeah.

That's going to release more moisture, i.e. your own natural body motion, not sweat. So that's just going to like expedite the process. It's just going to make it worse.

Yeah. Crazy bad. Yeah. And, um, I know we talked about it a little bit, but I don't know why it came to my mind.

Like I was just thinking about like weird torture. Why are you just thinking about torture? I don't know, man. Maybe the world needs to see some torture.

Not like, I don't know. I mean, I feel like a good deterrent in the modern times would be great because there's nothing to determine what's going on. What would you do? I'm going to go spend 10 years in jail and have all my needs taken care of.

Well, I mean, I think probably you do a good old fashioned hanging. Right? That might be a deterrent. I mean, can we agree that like probably the number one deterrent for murder is the death penalty?

Yeah, or life or life in jail. Yeah. So, I mean, my hang up with that is a you give somebody life in prison, you know, even if you give them like 10 life sentences, right? No, no chance parole.

So, uh, let's use a good number. Like let's say between 30 and 40 years old. Now the life expectancy of a modern human being, I think is like 82. Yeah, it's like 82 something like that.

That's yeah, the United States. That's like 40 plus years. Yeah. That we as taxpayers get to be them.

Oh, it's super expensive fucking bottom shoes, you know, yeah, I mean kind of have a problem with that. So like it's a whole show on the prison system in the United States because it's fucked. We where I grew up, like they have quotas and shit because there's like kickbacks and weird shit where like they got to keep the prison full so that they make money. So they give like incentives to getting prisoners.

It's weird. Yeah. Like I think I know that's why they haven't decriminalized weed in all the states because there's so many so many prisons because I mean, and I don't even know how that would even work with that. Null and void any previous drug charges at that point.

I think it does. So if I went to jail for South Carolina for. I think like California, once they made a recreational, I think they released a lot of people for like weed charges. Yeah, probably not like heavy movers.

I don't know. Well, it depends on the law. Yeah. So I mean, depends on what you can have.

I mean, I really don't know what you can have in California. 42.5 ounces. I'm just just getting. I have no idea.

You know, it's like 12 grams. There's always those like little caveats like, well, if you're going to have weed, then don't have like a scale on you because then they can get you for distribution or whatever. Yeah. Well, I don't know if there's something like that out there.

Don't wear it. It's like it's legal there. You can smoke it in your home and have it and blah, blah, blah. But like it's a different thing if you're driving and that's always been like my weird thing.

You know, like, I feel like that kind of pleases itself. Yeah, if I'm high, I'm not going no fucking. Why would you do? I'm going to sit on couch and I'm going to eat Doritos and I'm going to watch silly ass movies and laugh a lot.

Yeah, I'm going to go to bed. Yeah. I'm not like I'm going to come out and commit crime. Because that was a common activity in college.

Everybody wanted to go like fucking hotbox in a car and then fucking drive around. I'm like that. Why do you want to go drive around in public? And I mean, I was in college in the late 90s, early 2000s and in Indiana and they did not fucking around with that shit.

Man, I knew dudes that went to jail for a long time for weed and I thought he was like, yeah, let's go get high in public. And I'm like, that sounds like a horrible idea. Let's not do that. It's so comfortable indoors.

That's fine. A nice comfy couch and about eight bags of Doritos and some Chinese food, watch and start track. It's going to be great. Money Python movies.

Yeah. Nice to say me. No, but I feel like if they brought back some form of torture, it would definitely like curb some of the criminal, like, and I don't think it needs to be used if you like steal something. Torture.

Yeah. I mean, are you talking like a stockade or are you talking? I mean, that's a pretty good deterrent. Was that good?

Would be better? Would you like not, you know, and it would be for something dumb, but look, humiliation. Yeah. But like they would put people in the stockade for like adultery and shit like that.

Yeah. You know, public drunken is. Well, it seems like a calling. Yeah.

And then people walk by and laugh at you like, ha, ha, throw rotten fruit and write. Yeah. At least that's what they did in the movies. Right.

I feel like we actually well, no, you know what? They probably didn't. Yeah. They were probably pissboarded like, man, I got to eat this.

Yeah. I got to talk about lettuce. Throw this old lettuce. I still got a couple of good days on still green eat around the brown parts.

Come on. Right. Yeah. So you know what?

That would be interesting to find out. I don't even know if there's any historical precedents that would tell us. I'm looking at that. Like, did people really throw fruit?

You're right, though. Like, I think maybe not even a quality item. Torture, exactly. But like, I know that there's countries around the world where they still like cut shit off.

Oh, yeah. Like, like, take your hands and shit. You want to steal shit? I know.

There's some Asian countries that are super hardcore on drugs and one of them. I can't remember the name of which country it is, but one of them, like, they'll fucking cut your hands off in public. Like, how bad do you want some cocaine? You're not bad enough to lose my hands, thanks.

But, I mean, I don't think they have a drug problem there. I mean, it would definitely curb the desire to do drugs. I mean, yeah, they had some really, the cruel and unusual thing is really where it gets gnarly because, yeah, it would help. But, I mean, what about false accusations?

Human rights. I mean, come on, bro. Overrated. Now, just kidding.

I mean, what if you don't have fucking solid proof? We live in an era where, I mean, I've got a calendar downstairs that Brent made of me, Jacked, and as a superhero. None of that shit is remotely real. No.

But you can prove crime a lot. Like, if you're willing to go to court and say, you're guilty, you're going to spend the rest of your life in jail. Right. So I think at that point, you know, if given that option, though, I mean, even if it's just like fingers, given that option, I think I would love it.

I think people are going to think wise about shit. Yeah. If I was ever presented with that, that I, you know, and there's no way I would do something that heinous to warrant having a death sentence or life in prison. But I would tell them, well, I look, man, fuck this dumb shit.

Just fucking do me now. I'm not going to spend my life in fucking jail, you know, because I think that would be, that to me would be more torturous than just like fucking doing me at one time, you know, take me out that put up. But like, even that, my grandfather. So I mean, if you had the death penalty, how would you want to go?

I mean, I would want to go quick, fast and then hurry. Like don't waste a whole lot of time. Let's go out back, just put a bullet through my fucking brain and we'll call it a day. It's inexpensive.

It's going to save the taxpayers money. And I'm going out like a hero. Yeah. You know, they used to like put blanks and all of the guns, but one.

Yeah. And then you nobody knew who actually pulled it. That's what they say. But I have a feeling if you were one of those raffling, you'd be like, give me that.

I want to put it right there. Just my fucking pee hole. And man, I still say, there should be some sort of rule for that. Like, if nobody hits you during the firing squad, like all charges of grub.

Right. Well, that's like we were saying earlier. That's the behind Providence, man. Yeah.

Fucking that's some pulp fiction shit. Right. You just witnessed the miracle. You need to let me go.

Somebody's trying to tell you something. I might like I'd get like winged in the fucking kneecap. Right. Like every guy would shoot and they'd be like, damn, we got him in a kneecap again.

Luckily, he's got two fucking legs. Oh, yeah. That's like the botched extra scissor. Box botched executioners, like trying to cut your head off with a fucking dellax.

Have to do it like four times. That would be horrible. I mean, I'm not into that shit. I know that there's like beheading videos online.

I don't watch that shit. There's some pretty weird. And I don't do it. Even as a kid, like faces death.

I don't want to see that shit. No. I don't want to watch people die. I'm actually kind of pissed every time I accidentally see some shit like that.

Right. Like a video online or sometimes even on the fucking news. And there'll be like, yeah, shoot out today at, you know, the fucking Kmart in Oklahoma. Right.

And then they're like, please respond. Cow, caw, caw, caw, caw, and it's like, whoa, I just saw you murder a guy. Right. I mean, it's on YouTube.

You can fucking see videos from all the time. But I will say you might be on something like if we cut pedophiles dicks off, I bet there'd be fewer pedophiles. Absolutely. Like if that was just like automatic, like we have a little dig 18 and you got to put your thing thing in there and just how's that?

It's the chopper. Yes. Or a grinder. That'd be way way way way.

I mean, I definitely feel like the crime stuck it into like a fucking shredder instead of a one shot. Just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And depending on how bad it was, that you didn't want to touch a little Susie anymore. Right. Depends on how many inches you get ground off. Fuck.

Yeah, we're not. I don't think we're hard enough. I really don't like our world right now is super soft as far as our and yeah, man, have you talked to repeat offender criminals before? No, I try to scare clear.

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