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EPISODE · Feb 14, 2023 · 1H 22M

S4 E3 Cartoons

from Live Forever · host Dan Glaser, Steve Chase, Brent Smith

This week we discuss the cartoons we grew up on. From Looney Toons to Cartoon Network we talk about all the things that entertained us growing up and some that still entertain us to this day. Thank you all for listeneing and for all the supportive emails from our listeners. If you would like to get in touch with us you can do so at [email protected]

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Welcome to live forever. I'm Brent. I'm Steve and I'm Dan and we like cartoons. We love cartoons.

We love cartoons Who doesn't love cartoons? I mean cartoons were definitely a staple of my growing up. I was definitely a TV kid I feel like I mean weren't we all totally Steve? Did they have color TV back then?

We had some Yeah, man when I was trying to do some kind of research for this there's too many cartoons There's too many cartoons, but it also was like just another one of those things where like I look back And I'm like man, I'm glad I grew up when I grew up, you know, and it's easy to point to like technology and shit but like the non wokeness of just television in general and all the just the bounty of cartoons that were available to us I will say that in the 90s like they very much tried to be inclusive in cartoons Like there's always like the kid in the wheelchair in the cartoon right right back in the 70s when I was growing up We didn't have it was everybody was fair game. It was there was no looking at it like oh we should be Aware of this person's feelings. It was all pretty much balls in a wall. Yeah, that's just a problem I just beat everybody's ass right the crows from Dumbo right Yeah, that's heavy.

What's what's the Disney one that they try to forget song at the south? Yeah, yeah with the bra rabbit So was I was talking to Terry about this earlier like there were so many cartoons just on network television that You actually have the ability as a kid to be like Nah, okay, I guess I'll watch this one like I don't even know do they have Saturday morning cartoons But I mean it was a thing it was it was like a ritual it was you Saturday morning wake up bull cereal You're in front of the TV exactly well This is kind of one of the first ones I want to bring up like there's like four Cartoon networks. I mean there's Cartoon Network. Yes Nickelodeon.

Yep, then you had like the ABC NBC Saturday morning cartoons CBS Yeah, so when Disney yeah, I forgot yeah, well back in the day Disney was a description known was paying for that shit, right? Yeah, I mean well yeah, there's the Disney Channel on cable But I think it was an extra subscription to regular. Okay, so prior to all that Disney every Sunday night Oh, yeah, I was like they would have their evening programming and then it was like just before world of Exactly and it was like always some kind of weird apple dumping gang Swiss family Robinson. I like to lose Yeah, so like Disney Channel or Disney Network was there for us kids to go to bed to you know like we watched it And we went to bed.

Yes, he has problem Nickelodeon swish over like Nick at night So like right a kid I'm watching like I love Lucy. No, no, you know just old ass Nick Daxio. Hell yeah, man. It's a love smile of Lucy.

Which is weird for a kid to watch Lucy always kind of got on my nerves You know, she was kind of hot when she was younger though. Yeah, have you ever seen young? I had a thing for redheads. She was banging Anyway, that's the winch.

So what did what did what was y'all's like go to like these are my favorite cartoons in what area like as a kid As a kid like get up in footy pajamas like go to the go to run run to the kitchen get yourself a bowl of cereal Go plant your ass in front of the television. Let's say cuz at that point it's not developmental. Let's go with like five or six Okay, so Man see here's the thing like I don't think I was ever like a really Saturday morning cartoon guy I was more after school after school cartoons were legit too man Those ones that I remember the most because they were already weaning away from the whole Saturday morning lineup. They were yeah I mean I'm talking mid 90s.

Yeah, see for me like Probably my favorite as a really young kid was he man. I apparently has a kid. I was obsessed with him I don't really remember. I'm talking about like a four-year-old kid like he was my kid according my parents Well, what sucked is so in Indiana, they didn't do didn't do daylight savings time until recently Really?

So literally our television schedule would shift by an hour every season because the rest of the world did So like in one part of the year it would be a three o'clock, but then the rest of the year it'd be like a two o'clock So we're saying first state be like yeah, we're not doing that. Yeah, I think they abolished it all together now like it's done I don't think there's any more daylight savings time. Yeah, they're getting rid of it. Are they really?

Yeah, oh Terry's gonna be very excited the government said no more she hates it. It was only invented for farmers Yeah, that's it and how much extra time do you really get you literally don't get any you're not getting any extra time It's more like I guess you get more daylight. Well you get more time in the morning I think more daylight in the morning. Does it matter to farmers?

Yeah to farmers exactly You know who really is affected by daylight savings time and that's animals because animals have and I've noticed it if you watch Right after daylight savings time, you'll see more dead animals on the road than you do Animals don't have any concept of time. Hey the sun's coming up Yeah, and when you change the time more people are on the road at an earlier time And the animals are still on the new Cuz my cats on an auto feeder right and it auto updates for Cats that they're looking at us watching open got a spring back now Alright, you can set your watch by him sitting by his bowl for sure. Yeah four times a day He's like it's coming And I don't know if he thinks the little spaceman that dispenses his food is like his god or something But he'll go over before the food comes and like start licking it like he'll start licking the bowl like I must I pay I'm in she's going there and hit it. See what it does to you.

That's my that's my guy. Don't hit my god He man was a big deal and it sucked because I could only watch it kind of before First grade because it was on too early right so I could watch it like both like before I went to school and like kindergarten But after that I couldn't watch anymore because it was on it like 230 and I couldn't get home time to see it I was super pissed. I totally feel like car teams like he man One of my favorites was thunder the barbarian Thunder yeah, they molded our choices in later on in light because like teal I had a thumping ass and they always like It's like that's probably why I like oh yeah And tie now yeah, you watch those old ones all the chicks like their hips would swing when they walked big thick hips big asses I mean honestly man. I feel like a lot of those early cartoons were good for just you know gender roles Yeah, yeah, like you wanted to be fucking GI Joe and shit right yeah, Joe was a good one wasn't it?

There was that was the that was my afternoon lineup was that was probably to me to transformers They were like definitely the lineup in the afternoon and after that it went all goofy Yeah, we like he man GI Joe transformers thundercats totally thundercats Another one that I was just like in love with so y'all didn't grow up on any of like the I mean I guess not like the Nickelodeon like kid cartoons that like the odd family or what was it like the fairies? I'm not like like the really young like there's one about a little bear little bear I think it's literally what it's called. I mean we had the I had the books when I was a kid like little bears adventure And he's just yeah, yeah, but they had like the cartoon with him in it Yeah, I had no idea like Arthur Arthur see I got a little bit of that because I have a younger brother Yeah, so yeah, he was watching that yeah, yeah, yeah, well I mean we only had like two televisions at the time yeah Those were the only one from head cable. Yeah, like one TV in the house Literally we had a black for Christmas one year We literally got like these little black and white TVs my brother and I both got one and an Atari system Yeah, and it was like when it first came out I was like our grandparents spoiled us with it and it's your favorite one it was which Atari it was like the Atari I guess I don't know well there was there was a It was like Atari 64 or whatever it was yeah, you're talking about the 2600 there like the more mass-produced one Yeah, yeah, we didn't have one of those either It's easier like the 5800 or the 7200 is the quit making button in a stick E.T.

Game Asteroids was the game I actually flipped that game twice and it was it was literally ours just You got to like the kill screen I got to the I got to the end of the numbers and it went right back down to Yeah, I was aggressive dude my dad had a poker game on Atari and I swear to god It was like a strip of like there's like a girl on the kini but it was like obviously like Atari graphics It was still like I was a kid I was like I'm gonna put this in real quickly We girls get square boobs Pixelated these are suit Larry. Yeah, that's different. Yeah, that's all different after turns So yeah, I grew up. I mean my main cartoon watching time was the 90s like 1990 99 I graduated 2002 even in high school Like I would come watch cartoons man.

I've always loved cartoons. Oh, yeah, I mean I still watch cartoons today Rick and Morty Oh, they're working more than I mean my favorite shows so yeah, there's way too many cartoons to write down like all the cartoons There's too many I kind of grouped it like adult cartoons I want to start there and like kind of go or you'll want to start as childhood You were just saying like what was your like like a formative kind of shit? Yeah, okay Well, I guess it's kind of where I get my personality from it's really been like absurdist cartoons like that's that makes sense Renan Stimpy totally I was so into Renan Stimpy. Oh my god.

I had the video game on Turbogravics. Yeah, I had it on Jenna's I don't know but yeah Renan Stimpy was like a good like I love Renan Stimpy And then I really got into like a 14 hunger force C lab 2020. Oh, yeah, basically all the adult all the adults will know Yeah, yeah, and see that's where I picked up pretty much Nail in the head, you know all those ones you said you were probably in what your 20s Maybe in 30s when they're coming out but see here's the problem. I started watching cartoons and just never quit Oh, yeah, my TV viewing as an older gentleman is movies and cartoons.

Yeah, I see I watch midday cartoons with like the incredible adventures of Can possible no I stay away from Nickelodeon. They just seem really weird to me. Yeah, I guess I guess Cartoon Network is really my more go-to Like at any totally awesome. Yeah, that was good show.

Cow and chicken. Cow chicken one then not so much. It's very well And it was angry beavers did a lot of angry beavers There's a bunch of Rocco's modern life like they were so absurd and over the top and weird. Yeah, they were kind of trippy Yeah, like especially like a lot of those continued playing through college Yeah, absolutely dude.

I'm telling you like Terry and I would have a rough night And then the next morning be watching angry beavers and like I don't know what it is about it But it was always like the trippiest episode Would be on yeah, we're like totally wrecked like barely alive Courage to cowardly dog He was that was always like some crazy weird shit That's what I've always loved about cartoons is like you can they can do so much more than they couldn't like I mean even if you go back to like Roadrunner Wally Coyote man, Lincoln's was a shit like Looney Tunes is like it sets the bar Right? I mean for cartoons as far but it's almost childish. Oh for sure, but it's not Our bread and butter when we were kids and I mean Okay, buzz bunny Tom and Jerry and like they don't do half the stuff now in the new Tom and Jerry stuff I have a question for you that you might know I cannot find it I know it exists because I remember watching this kid So there was an a cartoon where it was like plants and zoo animals and they like made up these plants and like an ice plant and like made ice cubes But it was like an old old cartoon. I'm guessing it was made by Wasn't like the Herculeids or it was no like it's that thing wasn't even like there was no cartoon characters It was like just like I speaking almost like an information cartoon, but it was about fake shit really.

Oh was it fractured fairy tales? No, I'm saying it wasn't that on bull ankle. Yeah Rocky and bull we go that's like a old one. Well, here's a buddy Yeah, cartoon cartoon showcase shows because you had like Rocky and what's just rocking about rockin but we body And he had an ameni acts like several different.

Yeah, it was Mindy like the girl who annoyed the dog. Yep Well, that's where picking the brain came from. Yep. Yeah, it's he prior to that we had like the Sid and Marty craft Which was like a variety wasn't necessarily cartoons.

There was I cannot remember the name of it But there was like they had this guy and his name was Changa and he couldn't speak He was just like oh, yeah, I remember and they would always get on these weird adventures and pirates and There was no it wasn't a cartoon. It was like live action. Oh, we had Sigma in the sea monster HR puff and stuff the banana split Yeah, HR puff is stuff. Did they not was that not like a live action?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I wasn't even cartoons. Okay, okay That was like a showcase thing. Yeah, but they had like the magic whistle.

Yeah, yeah, yeah I remember watching that's good, but I don't remember it. It's like one of those weird fever dreams Yeah, it's probably a good thing because it's really the stuff of nightmares now Just giant big headed like Muppets weird Hercules was the one Hercules was awesome That is the one where the they had the little dinosaur shot the Bullets that shot I was horn and you had a gleep and gloop like we've been glued. That's right. That's right That's why when you made that weird noise.

That's why I thought again again. We had like the blonde female character Not necessarily robust up top big ass. Oh, there was a lot of that. That's why I like thick bitches Yeah, but there's a sort of ones really kind of led me into my adult childhood cartoons like I said Rick and Morty adult swim stuff All the way adventure time.

I still watch a venture time is bomb. I love it. Yeah, I've never watched it. You've never watched it.

It's dope It's really dope what ice cream man. Yeah, hey guys So so another thing like watching cartoons cartoon network after school got me into anime I don't know if either one of y'all I'm assuming you watch some anime. I did buy some anime drag Well Z and E new washer in washer that was where they'd like the two like I had to watch occasionally Sailor Moon be Onside watch that but I was never into it. Yeah, the only reason you watch Sailor Moon is again women It is and butts right and Japanese are really good at that like ambiguous like how old are they?

In school, but they don't say what school college middle high school Let me know there was a like anime goes off on so many weird tangents. They have like Ultimate high school fighting team and it's yeah, it's like some team of women again Yes, well endowed as a kid though Like I wasn't exposed to anything like super dope as far as anime like when I saw anything anime I thought it was just stupid because you know It was always like they're always yelling well Jack about Z would have like literally like a fight would last like three episodes And it's like one episode is just him charging up. Yeah, exactly not even my final form. Yeah, I mean They threw three punches this episode.

I can't wait for the next one. He's gonna go super sand X-men was a big one for me. Yes the original X-men dude It's it's funny when I was a kid and I guess and I was even kind of old when they came out that was Saturday morning staple That was a Saturday morning. It wasn't that any more vacation Bible school.

We were playing ex we would play X-men like on the playground and No way. Yeah, I'm over and I'm gambit Don't stuff and then someone drop rock my finger and like I didn't break it But like I like hit it my pocket cuz it hurt and I'm on my finger like swollen like three times the size I thought I was Colossus, but I wasn't yeah, but no I used to we used to play X-men like on the playground I'm vacation Bible school. See we play in Hawkman. I went to a private school and we played a game called Hoffman I wasn't I wasn't I went to fucking private school Yeah, it was kind of weird that I've turned out the way I have no prize will make sense It was so hard walk.

I can't even remember the reference there was there had to be some kind of reference to Hotman, yeah, and like all the popular kids were the Hawkman They were like and all of us kids that were I guess lower on the scale right and this is the only way we could be included Which is horrible. I don't mean to turn episode into like a you know, it's fine But yeah, we can tell the only way we would fit in was we had to be like there there hunted So we would like run and they would just swoop down and beat our ass and then we're like That's some like that's some like therapy sessions. Yeah Well, I mean that's pretty normal though. That's that's like, you know, right of passage kind of like never really been beat up Like I've always been a big kid like been fights, but I have not like been nobody's beat the shit on me fortunately Well, no one's like everyone's like assuming like oh, he's a big guy like I don't mess with him.

See when I got older That's gotta be nice. That was my thing. But also like worries me like if I get in real fight, I'm your fuck. Yeah, exactly Pretty much like that's what I fear.

You're all showing no go. Yeah, absolutely I'm sure like a blackout crazy and I'll wake up just covered in blood like what happened like my my move like all three school was just Spoke on King of the Hill. That's not really just make friends with people bigger than me. Yeah, there you go Like I'm talking like rad or die motherfuckers that I'm like, yes, my friend.

Oh, I'm in trouble and they're like, okay You fuck with the hand my friends were always crazy shit. Same here dude like I was always the reasonable one There's a fight going down. I'm like, I'm not part of it. They're gonna handle it though.

Right shit. I was always going to get the car Yeah, I'll go get you. Yeah, if there was a fight breaking out, especially in high school I'd be like I'm gonna go start my car and then roll up to the person I know I'll be like oh get in before you get in trouble or the cops come and when I got bigger The the only thing that stopped that whole like me being picked on and bullied as a kid was I can remember clearly There was a guy real popular guy named Todd Goyette and yeah He choked me out like in front of all these people like because we were playing a game And I ripped his coat and he got all pissed off and he like took me out So the next day I went I went I went into it like I'm tearing his ass up today and I did I mean I know rich Oh, yeah, I totally I knocked this two front teeth out I mean this isn't political right, but I did fight a retarded kid. That's terrible I mean he tried to fight me like he like stuck his finger in my throat.

Yeah, you like that you like that I'm like down in my color. Oh, I thought you meant like in your mouth like trying to Like I'm like you're not gonna move though, right? Like you're yelling at each other and you just like Dude you win you win. No, but it's pretty much like I'm like you're not doing like that's not hurting like I'm not gonna fight you And then he got hit by a bus.

Oh my god, bro. I mean he's alive. Did you like grab a strong strong or something like Would you say it made him more powerful? Yeah, literally like a tire on the head.

Oh, what yeah, he got he went under the wheel with his head Bro, that was the story. I mean I did it happen. You were there. No, I didn't there when he got hit by the bus Oh, it wasn't like while we were fighting I pushed him into a That's like I thought you're saying like fuck you dude No No, but sitting I'm definitely not doing that I got pants in middle school day Feel day so outside outside Pants and boxers and they both came down.

Oh, yeah full frontal nudity and I mean as a kid and I don't feel days not like you're rockin Hogg no middle school. No, yeah, I mean Yeah, any sort of exercise it just kind of climbs inside you yeah Dude, we've got all of it. Yeah, yeah, I can't believe you have field day We had a field day too, but it was all like because it was you know churchy private school It was all like working the field Weird shit, what did you win? I got a rosary.

I got a spirit of Jesus in the heart I want I got the oldest beer in me middle school is rough for everybody I think right but see there's there in like kind of To tie a reference to growing up in cartoons cartoons Growing up or nothing compared to what they are now like no No, you got a way with so much. Oh, I mean like rent a city like several their episodes were banned Yeah, like because like super gay or and even in a city now I think about was kind of like a show cartoon showcase because they had like cinnamon toast crunchman. Yeah Horse guy who was selling like nipples Man Oh Oh Brothers Johnny quest shows up on some of the episodes, but he's like older and strong out on Yeah, and the evil dr. Q or zim or whatever his name was That's another funny one because it's like Everybody with a knife.

No, you've never seen Is it dope? I've seen see lap 20-20. It's one of my favorite. Okay.

No venture bros It's probably like five seasons. Yeah, dude I don't know if it's still going but it's such a mishmash of all the older cartoons and they just kind of throw them together There's like a gorilla guy and yeah, they basically take a legion of doom, but they're not called the legion of doom They took Johnny quest and they made it into a funny adult comic Like sea lab. Yeah, yeah, but it's not the they didn't remake the is all new animation They repurpose the animation like it's like so it's like about two kids and their dad and their dad's villains keep capturing the kids And the kids are just like oblivious. Yeah, I'm knowing and if you recall like in the Johnny quest show There was dr.

Quest and then the two kids and then they're One kid race banding well he only had one kid, but hodgy was kind of a race adopted so race banning is Basically who plays or Brock Samson is who plays? Yeah, it's basically like a one-for-one of Johnny quest, but okay, it's just adult comedy. Oh Race banning was like the bodyguard of the whole family and so is Brock, but he takes it to another level He's just like I'm gonna kill you, but he's stuck in the 80s He drives like an old 442 and dope long mullet hairdo What's his name? He does the Joe family guy.

Yeah, like he's Patrick Warburton. Yeah, yeah, yeah Awesome. Yeah from emperors new clothes emperors new group new group. Yeah, dude.

I was early in on that shit So that's another thing like Disney movies. I mean Disney cartoon movies Obviously like they have also changed with the times. I mean it's not Pocahontas and Cinderella more now. It's like Well, it's kind of gone back to that.

Well, it has gone back. I think they're one of those in every once in a while But yeah emperors new groove and I think I think it's I think it's stood the test of time It's definitely got a cult following now. Oh, absolutely, but when that shit came out. I was like showing it to people I'm like no, no, no, you got to watch this.

This shit is funny. Yeah What was the guy was emperors name? Oh, cuzco. Yeah, it was a great fucking movie I haven't actually seen the movie a long time.

It's really good and Hercules was kind of like that too Hercules was that way to get right turn. I actually just watched that like a month ago nice and yeah fucking James Woods is hilarious in it doesn't he play Hades? Yes. Yeah, that's fantastic So how old were you when you realized that all I was to be watching cartoons?

Well, maybe maybe it didn't happen to you because you mostly identified with like the later like Nickelodeon shit Maybe a question for you Steve. Okay, when did you realize in the 80s that most of the cartoons you were watching were commercials for toys? Good question That's what like that's what like skeleton wars. I got your play before we started like yeah That's what all street sharks Gargoyles your lawyers.

I don't know that one. He made figures. Yeah, I just like all of those Right now and they're huge collector. I mask Yeah, but I felt like mass was ripping something off like a big mask was kind of ripping off anime for sure Wait, what's that so it was mobile attack?

Strike something but it stood for like mass wasn't acronym for you know, whatever they were and they all would jump in their cars And they would pop these helmets on and then they would meld with cars So we got a cool little feature this episode We're gonna be playing some of these intros slash little short clippets and I think Dan's about to play the mass So I know what we're talking about but I did I did not know that um wild cats had a cartoon That is another Marvel the no the image comic. Yeah image comic. Yeah, they had a cartoon as well Yeah And the whole thing was like the vehicle like was transformed into something else. Oh the transformers I mean, that's yeah, they weren't they weren't robots.

They're beautiful. So I've achieved like that card is like starting to fly Dr. Johnson do a jet Lancers on top they're super cool It's like why the kid Like the younger brother he's not connected to there was a cartoon and I think they've renamed it probably a million times But like it was all this whole family of kids and they would jump down these tubes and turn into birds Oh, Silver Hawks not Silver Hawks, but that's like Silver Hawks. It's older They have like this one kid.

He was real skinny and small and he'd be like couldn't really talk that well He was kind of like the re-rear the dirt. I was like, no, no, no, everybody understood him But nobody at home there they were like, okay, we get it. I don't know what that one is. Go out while Thornberries.

No, no That was funny. What flea was the little brother that the Sling no absolutely I found that. Oh shit. That's amazing.

You guys you guys remember visionaries. No, oh, well, let me let me Pull one out for you And he's like staff Early 90s I think this is really that was really when I started to realize that wait a minute. These are commercials. Yeah, so like this Isn't really a cartoon, but there's something I watched and it was reboot reboot.

It was like the first Animated cartoon they had gigabyte. Yeah, it was like the bad guy in the middle. Yeah, that was a Saturday morning. Yeah So that was a weird like is it I mean, I guess it is a cartoon, but it was like the first 3d animated cartoon Well, it was I was like oh, I love where this is going and then it was just like shit because it was like well The first like full 3d right yeah like full like computer animated because did you guys ever watch silver server?

I don't know if I did it's actually pretty decent. It's probably blending in with X-Men for me I think you can get it on Disney plus yes, because it's owned by Marvel Yeah, that was one of the cartoons I was on there and it was so obscure I never saw it the only place I saw it was on Disney. It's not about you really honestly like I've tried going back and watching like Spider-Man X man I just can't get into it like I was when I was kid like Spider-Man and firestorm an ice man like spider-man and it's amazing friends Yeah, yeah, those were good and you say super friends like the justice Justice League versus the whole of yeah the Legion of Doom Like slow thought yeah in 90s and actually Ronday Kale Superman rest in these because the dude just died Unfortunately who died remember Batman the animated series. I was gonna bring that up That's like the number one animated show ever right is it I think it is because I mean mark Hamill is Joker dude top tier man I mean to me to me animated Joker there is no better than mark Hamill well and then like they had like the super serious episode where Dr.

Freeze like Mr. Freeze explains like his wife is frozen Like it was like a way more serious cartoon versus everything else. We saw as kids I think for sure but I don't think they make cartoons that are strictly for kids anymore because if you watch even Something on like oh they got these little these little poking fun at like oh only adults are gonna get this joke But we're gonna go in here for the adults watching it with their kids exactly well I mean have you tried watching Saturday morning cartoons lately no not at all believe or not they do exist But it's not like it's not like the line up. No, it's not the three network craziness But it's all like it's all dumb shit man.

It's all like little kitty. Well like everything's safe. Nobody gets hurt They also have to fight with YouTube yeah I mean everything is like a three to ten second you get your information in three to ten seconds and into the next thing because that's The kids attention span nowadays or that short. I think Cartoon Network still does a Saturday morning thing But it's not anything like the same boomerang maybe boomerang was good because Yeah, the older the Hercules were on that you could find thunder of the barbarian If you play Cartoon Planet that was a cartoon planet that's basically coast coast cartoon planet I used to look I actually had a space ghost shirt that my cousin gave me cousin Jason was such a He listens.

Oh, yeah, there's a brack shirt. Oh, yeah, the brack show So hilarious super fun. He's talking about his knobby knee circus I just remember like the stupid songs they would make like beans like there's some song about beans and then you got Zorak over there Right, and he's just a total douche He's constantly like oh, yeah He would just interview like real life people in his little TV like and they're like MTV type people you know I'm saying like oh, yeah, Snoop Dogg. Yeah, it was like random for me.

It makes me think I'm talking I'm like do they explain to these people what they're signing up for because most of them are like what the fuck is going on Right, so he's like, well, what's your superpower? You got an identity and that's weird too because it's a cartoon like you had to wonder Yeah, they know what they're signing up for I mean they had to it's to some extent I wonder if there was like a real person like blacked out or do you think it was a teleprompter? Oh, I think I think definitely I think two things about space goes coast coast I think a they put words over top of space goes obviously I think the people that they were interviewing were probably like hi Probably smoked a lot of weed more like we're gonna go do a show with a cartoon tonight I think it was like hey, we're gonna record you it's gonna be an audio only Interview right and then they would use the video and I mean cuz space goes coast that they reutilized the space ghost Cartoon right, you know just like see that 20 the explosions were all like the old yeah But yeah, it's just it was wild to me like like an aquatine how they all like they always have the same fire Yeah, exactly did you know that's like a video they took of a like campfire? And they just kept repurposing it so have you guys watched Metapocalypse?

Yes that hell yeah, that was because I love heavy metal music I fell in love with it. It was so over the top I mean that's another one of the shows where it's like you think like oh, it's gonna be a short thing It's like oh, they're like six seasons down. It's like amazing and the guys have actually put out CDs You can go to the store and buy at Metapocalypse, you know, it's crazy music mermaider That's the show to where they had or is it the show that had the clown that was supposed to yeah Well, it reminded me of David Lee Rawley's that's who it was supposed to be I do cocaine Well, that's like an rock. Oh, I do cocaine.

What's his name was in one of the man? I can't remember his name now think about a guy who shot pigs from a helicopter. Oh, but of the love sponge. No, no No, he's a music guy.

Oh, Ted Nugent. Yeah, he was one of the octane hung for us. Oh, yeah Oh I love Ted Nugent. I'm sorry.

It's political views are on point. I love him. Yeah, he's great He's he just I got to say what probably led us to like what that is now like metocalypse I'll be like MTV cartoons, right? He was about a young flux.

Oh, yeah I did not watch a young Liquid television on MTV, but yeah, I think I'm pretty sure we all watched be this but oh yeah I can't watch it now. I really can't no dude. I heard the new movies don't though. I did hear that too Yeah, I've heard from a few people.

That's where kids rather than actually yeah totally did. I mean what about like I mean Simpson's dude That's like I'm dying. That's like 40 year run and I mean also. I mean write it down south part Yeah, I mean those two are like they're just part of our culture man the most series of any cartoon, right?

I mean so just like you group different cartoons together I mean like there's a definite like this is for the people who don't get offended easily this party because I mean Like damn was saying the Saturday morning lineup is it's first like babies They don't like if you put some of the hardcore stuff We watched as kids only kids now their minds would explode like they would be like mommy Why is this cat dropping an angle on the mouth? You know, why did that guy just get hit with a baseball bat? Well, there was it would be freaking out there. There's always been like a Separation right for primetime cartoons.

Yeah, a lot of people don't realize the Flintstones was originally a primetime Yeah, I'm sure yeah, I think it was Flintstones and Jetsons. We're kind of like the Simpsons and like family guy back in the day Yeah back in the day like they were a primetime told each other. They weren't they weren't like a Saturday morning cartoon. That's true Yeah, I mean the Flintstones were basically just on your nerves.

Yeah, totally. I mean Barney is just the Flintstones, but a million years in the future Talked worth same idea Rosie just because I was annoyed with it as a kid and I'm still annoyed with it I hate to keep bringing up toys, but the transformers. I knew you were gonna say that dude in my mind I literally knew you were gonna say that I think we all love transformers, right? Yeah, but here's the thing I'm gonna read Dan's mind tell me Dan's gonna talk about the fact that the original transformer toys You had to have at least a graduate from MIT to fucking Talking about the cast iron original like yeah To actually transform it and the new ones are just like three moves No, the legit like metal ones.

Yes, I can remember going over to friends houses and and they would be like don't touch it I finally got I'm just like actually got it transform like well because you could break it if you tried to transform yourself You didn't know how to do it. No, I was actually gonna bring up the fact that they would make new transformers for whatever They were trying to sell yes, and toys actually ruined the transformers. So as a kid huge I mean, I think transformers came out in 8485 15 yeah, I was five and they fucking ruined the show Yeah, how did they ruin the show because when the movie came out was after season is either after season two Yeah, I was after season two the movie came up Michael day, maybe no I'm talking about the animated Okay, I was like a few years. Yeah, what was it?

Yeah, and of course my parents were cheap and they wouldn't take me to the transformers movie and The next year at school everybody was like did you see them? No, no on the transform? Oh, really like fucking why and they're like oh you didn't see the movie and I'm like no finally came out on video That fall and I watched it and I got it because who is it has bro? Yeah So they wanted to sell more toys dude in the first 20 minutes of the movie they killed off 75% of the Autobots what dude Omocron or on on the crown.

Yeah was like the mega was like a planet transformer Yeah, and he like fucking ate a bunch of dudes I got right off the bat and then they killed prime get the fucking out of crime but prime came back though is like ultra prime Right or so much later. Yeah, he did not like they upgraded Rodimus or hot rod. I mean yeah made him Rodimus prime But they they killed most of the Autobots some of the Decepticons Megatron became oh Yeah, like he stopped being shit gun or like no, he became like a different gun. I totally damn it I can't remember this fucking name, but he was like a totally different real guys.

No email us. No telling you live forever Potted you mother come he became a totally different gun even his voice was yeah So when they introduced all the like weird shit like the Beastoids and the fuck no much later But I mean they construct the cons constructicons were before the movie but the problem was so they wanted to sell more toys So they wiped out a bunch of the original crew and then when third season comes around they already had the toys ready to roll The horse I'm fucking nine years old. It was like fourth grade. There's no Optimus Prime.

Yeah, are you fucking joking? I mean that's like look look to your right. There's a fucking op in this prime on your on the shelf I mean that is like first he's the man he is the transformer. He is the transformer I mean honestly the Autobots kind of sucked.

Yeah, I mean there were cars. Yeah, I mean the person always like the cooler ones Yeah, I mean they don't want it jets bro with personality Exactly like jazz. He was like I don't give a fuck jazz was pretty cool. I was like I can't talk I was like wheeljack.

It was pretty dope And then the new movies though brought that that freshness back to it like everybody wanted like you were saying the Michael Bay Movies is like yeah, people got excited especially us younger kid well old young kids that were like How tone deaf of Hasbro though to fucking kill their own series and like he said they did eventually bank bring back prime I mean the movie even killed Starscream bro. I'm sure what they thought was Getting me he was the biggest kid's all care. We're gonna do these new ones So there's something new and exciting and then right but see I was like oh shit No, I feel like they did the same thing with he-man the kind of like he-man got way far ahead of it So I have any of y'all watch the new he-man. Yes totally revelations.

He's into it. Okay. I don't watch the first couple episodes And I was like it's okay, but Steve is like it's weird It's like you gotta finish it. It's good like there's some weird stuff that goes on And I'm gonna go ahead and just throw a spoiler alert out there like Prince Adam dies like twice in the whole series And I'm just like how does this work and the way they tie it all back in?

It works. It's the work. No shit. Okay.

But my biggest problem with stuff like that is is they leave you hanging and then they don't continue it When they do cartoons like that. I mean I feel like growing up I was ripped off 100% I feel like Thundercats was just kind of like um we're not even gonna show you a last episode. It's gonna be like Yeah, they didn't know what- they didn't know what- they didn't know what- they didn't know what- they just got canceled Well, yeah, a lot of cartoons were like that they're like and that was it and you're like wait what? What happened to Tara?

Well, I remember watching a lot of cartoons and I didn't technically care for the toy There's one particular one that they had trading cards for a real monsters who was it a real monster? Yeah, like That guy held up his eyeballs. Yeah, they had like trading cards or something that I think I stole from Walmart or something I like Digimon was real monsters. Did they have like a girl monster that was kind of like a big lids?

Yeah, it's like a black and white stick. Yeah, yeah, yeah They were like in school trying to be scarier. That's right and I just rolled out two monsters. Yeah, yeah Like I feel like everything's got a like robbery point Well, here's the thing like why wouldn't they try to sell it?

I mean kids are gonna want to buy what they see right for sure, but like with transformers. They did it wrong They said hey, we're gonna show you what to buy versus we're gonna show you a show and if you like it We're gonna offer you this right that's where I think yeah, Joe did it right? Yeah, they started off well I mean there are several cartoons I watched that I don't think there was everything for sale for me There was I wasn't interested about like Dexter's laboratory. Yeah, see that's a nickel like a lot of each other No, no, you're right.

That wasn't John Bravo John Bravo. Yeah, oh Were y'all too old for red rats I was a little bit too old for okay like that was like I thought it was just kind of dumb Well, I don't know man like how many pickles. Yeah, see right? This is great This is another problem I have with cartoons is sometimes they're like oh there's a new generation watching We need to create new stuff for this cartoon that exists like dill pickle was the next character to come on that show right?

That was amazing, right? Yeah, it's like as soon as that happened. I was like I'm done with this show Yeah, like it's called jumping the shark. Yeah, I mean just like with the transverse like you can't introduce like this is working Why are you adding more stuff this?

Yep? You know they did that with Transformers they did with he-man they did like two or three all spins of that the all spin for Thundercats was like I don't know if that was for special ed kids or what it was horrible horrible Do you guys know where the phrase jumping the shark comes from it became from a happy day series happy days? Yeah, so when the fawns jump the shark one happy days episode. Yeah, when he was skiing I remember that yeah, cuz everybody was like I'm 400 years old listen.

It was a rerun for you I know happy days on a night. I watched it was a fawns cartoon what I did not know that yeah I didn't either until I was looking into this fucking cartoon shit. Do you know that a star wars had a cartoon which one it was Like the c3po and r2d2 droids Yeah, that was a great show that stage No, they had one for the box. Yeah, and then there's one on the droids where they actually kind of like brought the other fan in He's riding his dinosaur and shit.

Dude. That was a fun show did any of y'all like get into the internet cartoon stuff like in the early days of the internet? What do you mean like happy tree friends? Happy tree friends.

Yeah You head off yeah, that's the type of stuff like you come across and you're like is this for kids? Oh my god, it is not for Have you seen the G.I. Joe remake stuff on the internet? No.

Oh my god, so they're you know like the G.I. Joe PSAs. They made yeah Yeah, knowing us at the battle. Yeah.

Oh, well, they switch them up. Yeah, I'm using condoms and like really stinky pussy We'll get you crabs. It's fucking hilarious It's like one of the best things I ever seen in the I guess early 2000s when I started popping off hell yeah So yeah, it's just basically they took those G.I. Joe PSAs and they re-voiced them nice, and it's fucking amazing So it just follows in line with like what the rest of the world does is like no new thought no new idea Let's just redo the second one.

It is a new thought though. I mean it is new. It's different. I mean it's But I don't I really like when they reutilize animation with new voice and like just cut and edit it to make it its own thing Make it dirty basically just make it make it filthy for a belt pretty much there we go the truth like it's like Mr.

Science Theater but for cartoons. Yes very well no cuz no one's commenting on it. Okay, maybe it's not My bad. Hey, what do you guys want to do next time?

Oh man? Geez we've opened so many books today So check this out. How about we do a contest? Oh Contest like open to the listeners or I mean they can look at the same thing So there's there's YouTube videos where you can do a quiz on Interothemes or cartoons.

Oh, so how about a little quiz test and whoever wins gets to pick the next episode Let's do it down Youngens well, here's the thing do we want to give Brent an advantage and do 90s cartoons? We can do 90s. Let me say what we want to do 80s cartoons or do you want to do Steve van do you like 60s? I'm not that old bitch.

No, I was probably picking up runs Yeah, no, we can do it was like pop up. I was born in 84 so we knew 80s So 80s is cool. I can do 80s or 90s. I can do 90s 80s I mean how about beforehand if we win what are topics gonna be all right?

So we gotta set up like no, no, I thought I meant like I meant like yeah, but we're also different I thought you meant like whoever wins gets to pick the topic for the next. Yeah, so I mean yeah What topic do you want from the next episode? Well, I don't know I Wasn't prepared for that. I was in for that.

I was in for that. Oh, it's tits. Well, I'm not saying you have to announce it right this Well, I was going to cuz sticking with cartoons, you know, Arc is coming out with the cartoon. I didn't know that yeah, so Yeah, so I'm playing again.

They're coming out with the cartoon. Are you playing it? Yeah, I'm running a two servers right now Do you want to jump on the grass platform? I don't know it's great.

I think it is because it's full release game. It's not like seven days Yeah, I think you're right, but I'm running a hard course over in regular server, but yeah, and then they're also come out Artus I was gonna say dinosaurs because I'm a few I was a dinosaur kid man. I love to dinosaur as a kid Yes, like the dumb dinosaur Like we can start teams remember diner writers. Yes Yeah, which was kind of fucked up actually when you think about it because they had the brain boxes right enslaved the Dinosaurs like well, that was the bad guys right the good guys We're like they had some kind of like amulet and they were like piece of love and we just like made friends with the There's no one where they turn like dinosaurs into anamorphic people camera It's like called extreme dinos or something like that damn.

I don't know there's a lot of extreme There's a really fucked up movie called Raptor Velocia preacher I'm like, dude, there's like a breeze that turns into a fucking dinosaur, right? I'm like I can't save you now Yeah, I'm gonna eat you as a raptor. I'm just an dinosaur. Oh, yeah, all right, so we want to explain how this is gonna go Over quick, okay, so we're gonna play a theme first person shout out get some point.

Yep. We'll pause it We'll finish it out. Yeah, pause it finish it out and then on the next one kind of talk over it Yeah, we get it Yeah, so these are you all are having advantage over me. So if I win I get double points whatever We'll do that because you were only seven All right, so 80s cartoon theme quiz, let's go let's go No, that's not an X.

I know I know I mean it's not an X all right I knew it wasn't you actually by the time it shows up we all is had to be introvert to watch that show theme all right I think it's care my little pony I change it. I'm guessing care bears. I just heard it. I think you're right.

I'm a little pony It's one of those two I'll go with care bears, but I think my little pony is right. I think so too Steve gets a point. I'm not gay by nature But he's in a horse's but I like ponies right? Yeah, Joe yeah, Joe.

Yeah, I know I'm like thinking too deep in don't be scared I Be quiet I'll give you guys a chance Rescue it is Onto the next Either number eight. Oh, how far are we going? Oh, okay. I thought it was all of the tension and never played that earlier.

Our we're gonna get that. Steve is way far ahead. Yeah, I know. Can you do it?

Yes. I told you all I do is watch cartoons and movies. You don't get excited like that. Ninja turto.

Gene, make me think. I don't know if that was going to be a chance. Let's see. Oh.

What's up? Silver rocks. Ah, damn. Got it.

Barely. He's up fairly. You know, boy, you're real worthy. Yeah, I didn't really watch that.

No. Jim and the. Oh, fuck. Give him the hug.

Yeah, Jim. Hello. Hello. That's not it.

Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Pause.

Do we have a quick sidebar? Yeah. Sure. Jim and the holograms, right?

They made a movie about it. It's not Jim and the holograms. What is it? It's Jim and the Misfits.

What? Really? I can play the fucking theme song for you. Well, right now if it's Jim remember Jim and the holograms too, dude.

That was the movie. Here it is. Oh, that was the movie. Maybe I don't know.

I thought it was Jim. If it's Jim, I get the point. If it's Jim, the holograms he gets the point. If it's Jim and the Miffits, you get the point.

Okay. I'll go with that. I don't even think it's something off the... It might be different.

I don't know. Dude, I'm telling you. It's Jim and the Misfits. They say it in the theme song.

Really? Yeah. All right. Anyway, continue.

We don't know what the fuck this was. Did we all miss this one? I don't know. One of us might have got it.

None of us got it. This isn't Jim. This isn't... Oh, fuck.

Oh, we did it. That's right. They had a cartoon. Oh, they did have a cartoon.

That was stupid too. They're really long stocking. Did they be long stocking? Tsk.

Tailspin. Oh, yes. I think that was the mixed screws with all the money. Yeah.

All right, shut up. Tailspin. Oh, gosh. You can do it.

Come here, Bears. You can do it. Come here, Bears. Yeah, it was a very, very hard game.

Yeah, it was a show of bears. Yeah, it was a show of bears. Oh, the four is a scene. Yeah.

Great job, Daniel. I would have never guessed that. That was a good theme. That was a good theme.

Murph. It's easy. That was super easy. See you like something with me.

I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know what I'm saying. The four are in the fifth. The four are in the fifth.

It's perfectly in the third. Jim, the miss it. Jim. Jim, we know what's got it.

Oh, I didn't mean the name. Thanks for the magic. Oh, isn't there? Yup.

I'm going to play. I think you know what I'm saying. How did you know? I'm ready to play.

I'm ready to play. I'm going to play. OK. Oh, good idea.

Right off the red belt. That's down the belt. By the way, something that's worse up third in Chitara. What?

Pretty close. Yeah. Didn't some nips. I was like, I don't know.

What are we done? No. I know the part you like now. Really?

Oh, that was obscure. Yeah, that was obscure. It's one of those like shitty toys. Yeah, that's one of the parts of the paper.

Wait, not kidding, Chris. Oh, I didn't have a power. Wait. Uh, no.

Game master. Game master. Oh, we all miss that one. Ah, we all miss that one.

I love Captain. You were catching up with Steve Dan. This is spirit. I didn't know that you were.

Fabulous secrets were revealed to me. Oh, it is. It's like a little out of the sword and say it. Oh, yeah.

For the honor of Graysco. Commenterals. You may have her bitches. Oh.

Oh. Oh, shit. I know this. Spiderman.

What? Dude, we both all didn't know that man. That's not fair, man. That's not fair.

I don't know. A real good one. A string goes up. It's not the real good one.

There was another. There was another show. Yeah, I'll be good. No, it was the extreme goes up to the 90s.

Which is weird that they give dude blonde hair, but. Oh, yeah. No, it's just not. I didn't.

I didn't know it was incorrect. No, I didn't know it was incorrect. It was just close. It was close.

Dude, I was like, the X-Men one is like, dude, dude, dude, dude. Who gets that one? Who gets the last one? I don't think anybody got that one.

Okay, well Steve won regardless even if Dan got the one. Damn it. The next episode we're talking about. Eight for Steve, six for Dan and two for me, because I am young.

I mean, we can do the 90s one if you want. No, you've already watched it. No, I'll watch like half. All right, we got 10 minutes.

Let's do it. Let's do it. I know you want to. I do it.

I do it. Otherwise, the next week's commentary is going prolapsed penis holes. We're going to do that. What causes them and why do you need to fix it?

Oh, shit. Hang on. That's nothing. Pew pew.

See, I was born in this weird era where I'm like some of that some of this. That's why I need to go on like Jeopardy, bro. Dude, I think I could crush you guys. Like I'm so full of fucking useless knowledge.

And why? Yeah, game themes. Yeah, probably. I think that might be the second one down there.

That one right there is my name. It's gonna be Cat Dog. Hey Arnold. Yep.

There we go. There we go. Oh, that's 20 minutes. Johnny Bravo.

And your beavers. You want me to skip halfway through since that's the point? Yeah, there you go. Yeah, skip to 10 minutes and we'll see where we're at.

All right, hang on. How about name that Pokemon? I would lose that. I was never a Pokemon guy.

No. I played the like stupid walk around game only because... Okay, it's just a timer. Okay.

Good. Oh man. Rocco. That's my room.

That's my room. All right. Okay. Oh, good.

Good. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay.

This is a little kids cartoon. You mean we have to let... I don't mean that you're a homestylist. I mean, I'm gonna get like in the 90s.

That way we'll do it. Yeah, it doesn't really mean anything. Right. I'm going down.

I mean, that doesn't count. I'm going down. That was so easy. I said it.

I'm going down. You said that doesn't count. All right. I'm going down.

I'm going down. I'm going down. I'm going down. I'm going down.

It's like a small friend. I'm going down. They play citizens. I have to stay there.

He's screaming at me. I can't. He's like this dream. He's like this weird little field trip.

It's weird. Let's go! Oh, man. This is what I'm getting.

Shit, man. I knew what it is. Shit, man. I was like thinking of the...

Today's kids we're visiting the anus. Everybody on the bus. We're in the bloodstream area? Hey.

It's only here you go. I'm going down. On the madness. Boo, boo, boo.

That was good. That was good. I was just going to say that. I think it might be wild.

Don't worry. I was literally about to say it right before you said it. Shit I I I I I I I I I I I

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