S4 E5 Trait vs. State: Redeemed in Our Fallenness

In this vulnerable and hope-filled episode, Scott and Deb explore what it really means to live in a “fallen state”—and why understanding the Fall of Adam and Eve is essential to understanding Jesus Christ. Drawing from their personal journeys, recovery experiences, and scriptural insights, they discuss the difference between our divine trait and our mortal state, and how the Savior meets us in our brokenness to sculpt our identity. With tender reflections on repentance, surrender, and the role of agency, they remind us that the Fall was not a mistake, but part of a divine plan—designed to lead us back to Him.