Welcome back to live forever podcast. I'm Steve and I'm Dan. How you doing? I'm doing great.
The real question is how's everybody else? How is everybody else doing? I hope Brent's having a wonderful vacation again again motherfucker man. Dude does shit all the time He's got the vacation madness.
I mean he says what it what it really is is the Group ons. Yeah, kind of like like it keeps finding deals Yeah, Brandy finds these deals and like just doesn't want to pass up on him like I forget the whole story But apparently what he's doing this weekend is like putting in a camera system for a friend of a friend in the mountains And so like it's a vacation by proxy basically Yeah So like he gets to stay at somebody's mountain house and then they're actually paying him because doing a side job while he's there And he's like I mean that's kind of a no-brainer and I don't blame him. Yeah. Yeah I mean if you can capitalize on something like that.
Hell yeah, yeah, I don't do that shit man I don't do sidewalk. I don't blame you. I never really have I just do it. It's sketchy.
It's sketchy It's I mean the way I got to look at it is if you're doing a side job and something goes haywire or something goes awry Yeah, where's your insurance where's your coverage where's your liability on that job? So it's it's definitely a CIA fucking situation. Yeah, I mean I had my own company for a while and I feel like anybody that has had or at least tried to have a legit company knows that you Can't really fuck around. Yeah.
Yeah, because if you don't have the proper insurance, man You can get screwed hard I mean I think about and so can the customer honestly Because like if you get hurt or if one of your dudes gets hurt you can see you don't have the right if you don't have you know Workers' comp insurance and you don't have property and casually insurance. You're in big fucking trouble. Yeah Yeah, and I mean think about during your work experience time, you know and I was in the same business We worked for the same company before right how many mistakes like I've drilled through somebody's bro power line in their attic And so many things that could happen it to the company aren't isn't it's not really a big deal because they have the insurance And it's like that's a drop in the bus. Yeah, they've got either the the relationship You know because you have to have like a volume you know volume relationship with a vendor Right, so that you know like if you blow up a panel It's not that big a deal because they can either refurbish it or get you a deal on a new one right the company's got They overhead to deal with those issues like buy yourself man.
Yeah, just say something fucks up You're eating it. Yeah, you're eating it man You drill through somebody's flashing on a window and they're like hey my Window leaks now into my house and I've got water damage all down one wall and we're gonna have to rip out all that shit Like no thanks dude. I don't even want to be involved. I think the worst Catastrophe that I've ever been privy.
Yeah, what was your worst one? It was when I was doing sprinkler work for course and so I was doing fire alarm sprinkler and all that good stuff You know, that's same clumber bass ground So we were doing remediation where we were just dropping heads like three or four inches down Because they were putting in New Zealand's no problem all day long went great. So the last one we did Yeah, yeah, it was on plastic pipes. It was just cut stick it, you know a union on there or coupling Put a new piece of pipe down put the head back in it and roll, you know So the last piece that we were dropping down had a little bit of a weird 45 degree angle on it Yeah, and my partner he did the work He went up cut it put the new stuff together We waited the allotted time and he's like all right man go down and turn the water on so I like and all these buildings This is one dandruff's island.
So there's all those like million dollar condos. Yeah, I go downstairs I turn on the regular city water pressure. It goes up to like 75. I'm like cool, you know, right?
75 psi. Yeah, and you're talking the actual water pressure inside the pipes in sprinklers in the ceiling right inside the ceiling Right, so because it was multiple stories each building had its own fire pump and jockey pump Right, so I go over trying to jockey pump on that takes it up to about like I don't know 125 What's a jockey pump for the jockey pump just maintains if there's any fluctuations in water pressure It maintains that pressure. Okay, so if the jockey pump kicks on their sensors That go to the fire pump when it hits that point is the jockey pump what has like a compressor on it when it's on set It looks like a little compressor. It looks like a little, you know, eight inch round Pump is like a water pump.
Yeah, exactly like a water pump. So all it does is add pressure to the system. Okay, the The actual fire pump that's what supplies the extra pressure So if you have a fire and you need that's what actually is jamming That's what's putting a hundred seventy five psi psi. Yeah, so turn on the jockey pump It runs for a few seconds and shuts off perfect turn on the fire pump and the fire pumps probably Five feet away from the main water control, right?
And I will note that all of the controls were these butterfly valves and they were all like tight as hell You could I it took you three minutes to shut it off. Oh, yeah I hate those to the rest of the story. So I know sooner turned on the fire pump I turned around and made like three steps away from it when all of a sudden the jockey pump kicked on for about two seconds Which is adding pressure and then the fire pump kicked. Oh, no, and I was like oh shit So I bring it when I'm starting to twist it's hard to turn Fast enough and I know what's going on.
I'm nowhere near the apartment, but I know what's going on So the butterfly valve it kind of has those are the ones with wings on it. Well, it's like flat Yeah, and you have to spin as you turn it shows you the through its orientation whether it's closed or open. Oh, okay That's when we're it's got the flap on it. Yeah, and you've still got a wheel to turn But it takes forever for it to get over because it like it's a slow bit of a yeah I mean it's like turning the second hand on a watch so finally get it shut off I shoot up the stairs and the apartment is flooded it was a three quarter inch I want to say pipe the PC glued on shut off Oh, no, I'm just dumped three quarters work, you know and it's three quarters on an inch dump in the plant It's just dumping gowns.
Yeah, so we're like the only saving grace is the apartment was empty and There's plastic all over the floor nice heavy visqueen. It literally looked like it trapped most of the water Right, so obviously through the process we're immediately on both balls. Yeah, if it keeps the water from going down That's even better, right? Well, that's the kick collar balls We get you know people in route start to clean up we hear a knock at the door open the door and this lady's like Can you gentlemen tell me why water is coming out of my light sockets?
Oh, no, bro It went through the ceiling. Oh, no, it was bro. I didn't we didn't get fired, you know, but it was like the money That's all I could think of was like how much money so much money to clean up the initial floor We did then all the shit downstairs. Oh my god, and she like turned into what started as a nice lady She turned into a raging bitch like oh, I would do man.
I would do man. I'd be super pissed It was crazy. So I mean basically what we're trying to say is you're an idiot, Brent. You shouldn't be doing side work I mean I like the free vacation idea, but we miss you.
Oh, and I think it's worth mentioning just because I've run into so many People that think this way This is just a fun fact for everybody out there that doesn't understand how sprinkler heads work It's not a smoke detector. No, you can't set off a sprinkler head with smoke I've seen so many people are like oh if they're smoke I don't want the sprinklers to go off like dude. It doesn't work that way or or the pull a pull station and the sprinklers go off now I do have systems that are pre-action like that, but most do not but the other thing is that's a like highly sensitive area Right the entire building isn't gonna go off like it's it's head specific if the flame is directly under a sprinkler head That head will go off now, right? So explain that though So smoke doesn't set it off no heat he does because isn't there something that needs to melt inside the head There's several types the the one they use now the main one they use now again This could have changed since I've been out of doing sprinklers is a pressure It's a liquid filled bulb really a glass bulb that's filled with liquid and typically the color of the fluid inside dictates What temperature rating that sprinkler head has no shit?
I never know like the ones you see common like the little orange and the one rated for I want to say orange is a little bit higher I think like one almost 200 right the red ones you see is only like 135 like it's You can take a lighter and set one of those off and I actually did because I wanted to see how it worked Right, but amazingly enough that little thin glass bulb is set into a cap that blocks off a half inch hole And that's all that holds that water back is that little cap and that little glass bulb That's nuts. So as the heat goes up obviously the liquid inside expands It causes that little glass bulb to break right drops the cap out and then you've got water coming out of your sprinkler head It's actually it's super simplistic. It is like amazing that it can do that it is and then the other type is a Soddard point where there's a little piece of solder and all it's doing is basically the same thing It's some kind of mechanism holding back a cap and when that solder gets to its specific melting point It melts that piece falls off and then opens up the cap and next thing you know you got water Damn and the other great misconception is it's like it's always this in the movies. It's always like this beautiful clean water now now Stinky is black.
Oh, yeah Sitting in these pipes. Yeah, I mean microorganisms have grown in it. It's just it's a disaster when they go. Oh, yes gross I used to hate when they'd have a leak and you'd have to actually pull a piece of pipe and catch that black water with a can and try to Like bull's eye and shit.
You don't want to get it on you. No That's no doesn't come out. It doesn't it's kind of like the paper mill. It's kind of like you know No, what's it's there?
It's there's a stick to you like glue. I mean I didn't want to start with shop talk But it is kind of interesting. I always forget that you did a lot of sprinkler work. Mm-hmm.
I was Certified in fire pump install Maintenance all that good stuff for fire pumps right on sprinkler certified as we've been going pretty good pretty good new deck Worked out pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, I actually got to test the six person max capacity as far as seating goes nice and a nice little gathering with some old friends and drink too much and Crushing the mead. Yeah too much crushing of the mead the mead is too good.
I know it's so horrible It's just you good. It's man every once in a while. I'll make a batch. That's good You know, and I I'll have a bottle every You're proud of and it's not like it's not gross where you're like well I better drink this because it's just sit around but when I make a batch that's like this last blueberry batch Do this blueberry should it's so good?
You can't help it fucking drink it like I drink no less than two if you look into it All what you have to do to like sell it. Oh my god. It's crazy. Is it?
Yeah, you have to have a liquor license to sell it You'd have to have a lot either you know some form of alcohol or liquor license to in order to produce it enough to where you could sell it You still have to go through like D. H. You have to have a Location that's not your house. You can't be on your house.
So how do you have to do it now? Do you have to just do it like I'm going to I'm gonna give you this and if you would like to make a donation That's up to you like I thought of different ways. I thought about doing kind of like the hippies on shake down street. Yeah Like well, I don't I'm not licensed to sell you this hot dog But if you'd like to make a donation there are five dollars a piece I thought about having like a cast of it or you know a way to disperse it from a original container sitting there All ready to go and then just sell empty bottles.
That's not a bad idea. You know, I didn't sell them meat I sold them an empty bottle. They just happened to fill it I'm not even talking to one of the local breweries in Charleston to see what they had to do when they were starting Oh, I just that nightmare. I'm happy with making my small batches and sharing it with my friends I mean as one of the kids.
I'm cool with that too. If they want to donate they can donate, you know I haven't got to the point now where it's like I'm you know a honey addict when I'm out looking for honey all the time Because I mean it's readily available pretty much anywhere and to be honest with you I did some so you're going out to get like some you know, art is in honeys. No, I That's what I'm actually getting right say is I I got some honey from B City Now B City for those of you who don't know or aren't local is like they have tons of beehives and they Obviously supply a hellacious amount of honey because you can find it at any store around the area, right? It's it's a rather inflated price because that the brand is B City.
Yeah, I believe that's what it's called B City I don't know if I've seen those like Ace Hardware has it I like my a hardware down the street has it and that's where I bought it from. Yeah, most most local stores have like like a you know Local sales local cookies. Yeah, this and that so I bought some figuring you know Let me try some not bought in the store You know knowing that this was made at B City by their bees and probably use wildflowers and stuff And then I purchased a stuff called like pure and sweet or something like that and it was a brand from Walmart, right? I'll be honest with you the pure and sweet had way more complex Honey really like a richness to it that the B City didn't and so when I made the mead I wanted to see if there was a difference and I just I don't feel like it punched it in like huh?
I wonder if that's because in like a I mean I had to say factory farming but that kind of environment where they it's like high volume Do you think because there's so many different hives? They're pulling from and they've been doing it for so long that the complexity just kind of has grown on my ground because I mean It's still produced by an animal. Yeah. Yeah, so the varieties are The way they obtain the varieties and honey is obviously you let your bees gather nectar from that particular plant There's there's actually a hemp pot honey where the bees are just giving hemp plants together They're pollen from no way so you know the thought is it's like it's you know weed honey or whatever I don't know about it.
I haven't particularly tried it I don't know it's it but I don't know that that would do anything really because I mean they're just getting pollen and They're getting THC, but I don't know be kind of there is a bunch of stone bees Yeah, I don't need to add anything extra to my me But would they actually get but they would they get anything done though, right? What they're thinking about making honey, but we just gathered to pollen bees are always watching Star Trek and ordering Chinese food and shit Laid up on the front of the hive just chilling they've all got cornrows, right? Rasta bees they forget all their dances so they can't talk to each other anymore. Yeah How does this one go?
Left right ah fuck. I forget dude. Yeah, we can literally do a whole show on just like the how cool these are Seas of bees and their fucking nuts dude. Yeah, and like the belief of if they all died and the world is doomed I kind of believe it for some reason.
I don't know. I don't know. You know, you know, I knock myself out once Fighting off some hornets really yeah Hornets are bad hornets are super bad. So I was working at the marina where I grew up after college and I had to go get the trailers because it's getting towards the end of the season So we're picking up all the rich people's boats on the lake, right?
And you know If you know if you want to spend the money for putting it in a storage building That's one thing but we also had several fields where you know, you'd winterize the boat and then you'd wrap it do that like vacuum seal Yeah, yeah So we're going down to get the trailers from this field to bring them down to the ramps so we can get the boats up Right and the very first trailer and this was my job for the day like this is what I was supposed to be doing the very first trailer Has a giant fucking hornets nest on shit and so I call my dad and who was also my boss And I'm like hey this thing's full of bees and he's like just fucking hook it up dude Like basically he was like put me in a pussy don't be a bitch I'm like I'm gonna run to the hardware and get some freakin hornet spray man He was like do what you got to do so I get back roll up to the bees or to the hornet's roll my window down Just to crack and like right next to the the nest I spray it out the window shit They go fucking nuts now you're supposed to do this kind of shit like a dust yeah, yeah when they're the most dormant I don't know if it's the are getting ready to go to see the core it's the coolness the coolness I don't know if it's because you know, the dust gets hard for Animals that can see infrared to pick up on things. I don't know what it is anyway. They go fucking crazy I get I don't know how many a bunch of them But hey roll the window back up real quick and they're like fucking coming at the windows dude died bombing it They're like trying to get in my truck. It's funny that that no one's just popped right The bees were attacking so I'm like fuck this.
I'm going to lunch try to let this clear out So I get back from lunch. I hop out. There's no bees. There's no hornets.
There's no nothing So I reach in the back my truck. I get a tire iron to knock to knock the nest off the hitch because it's right where the hitch hooks up Right, so you have to be right there I got to knock that shit off and Dude as soon as I knock the thing down surprise attack. It was a surprise attack dude I hear like zoom zoom zoom and like no kidding I'm like surrounded by a fucking bee fucking hornets and I'm like hornet army. Oh shit I'm like wave my arms around no kidding I hit the back of my fucking skull with this tire And knock myself out.
Oh shit. I wake up on the ground. Yeah, like I was totally out. I wake up on the ground Never got stung look around.
There's no hornets. I'm like Was that nobody's humming right? You can imagine seeing some dude out in the field like you wouldn't know what I was doing No, just like waving my arms around and then just like Jesus, oh man, I had a Not similar, but it was traumatizing nevertheless We had a tree that blew down in the field You know and as a kid everything is a toy everything is an opportunity to have fun So I'm out there like using this it's still green, you know, so I had spring left in it. Yes crack.
Yeah I'm using like the life of the tree as a spring so I'm just using it like a trampoline almost just jumping up and down on it Right little did I know there was a huge one that's in it. Oh, it is so I start getting hit and I'm like oh shit So the field is probably I don't know 60 yards from the house, right? So I book it. I'm booking it through the to this field getting lit up the whole time just getting stung Make it into the house and like three or four bees flew behind me My grandparents had this great day named tiny and it was definitely not his demeanor or size at all He was huge tiny running through the house just eating these fucking horns like kachon And I'm in the bathroom my grandmother she's counting up I got stung like 52 times damn and Of course, it's secure chrome and baking soda mix.
Oh, yeah a little bit of water and you know I'd look like a I've got some kind of one chicken box all over yeah spots But yeah, it could have been worse if a little tiny hadn't ate the other four And then 56 bytes. I guess that's a good way to find out you're not allergic to bees Yes, cuz I would have damn sure been done for it in yeah, thankfully a knock on wood There's not a whole lot of allergic to it's when I had to start taking medicines That's when I realized I was allergic to shit like my cholesterol medicine I can't take a can't remember the name of it. It's one of the Z's or something, you know Uh, yeah, it just does not do well. Yes.
One of those zippie-dop zippie-zipps, but uh, yeah, do you mind if we take a break or Wait, no, let's take a break. Um, we're right back. Yeah, fortunately. I haven't had too many.
Oh, I guess we're back. Yeah I forgot we started telling people when we came back. I'm like, uh, trying to remember the last sentence we said Yeah, we were talking about things that I was allergic to and Allergic stuff, you know, I'm allergic to what spooky haunted objects, right good segue dude. You like that I know that the last 15 minutes.
I'm like looking for a jumping off point. I'm like, I can't find one. We gotta plot this out Yeah, so uh today we decided we were gonna do some uh talking about cursed objects Yeah, well, I always wanted to do one about the Dibic box. You know, that is right.
I do I have done a Great deal of research this morning on this Dibic box and I use the word quotations. So the Dibic is a uh, I don't want to say Jewish It's 100 percent like a Jewish like Jewish mr Like Jewish mysticism kind of stuff. Well, the Dibic itself is an actual spirit So the definition that I read and looked up and then some of the things that created a Dibic where um, it is definitely a Jewish possessing type spirit Um, and the way that one becomes a Dibic is If you haven't at the time of your death if you haven't like Done a list of things apparently in the Jewish religion There's like a whole list of things that you have to do before you pass on which, you know Hopefully they have that listed out early on in life like hey make sure you do this before you die Um, and unfortunately I was are you saying that this is you become a Dibic because you have like a bucket list that you never completed? Exactly.
Well, then I guess I'm good because I never made one of those So But it is not it's not a spirit that attaches itself to items or Things it possesses people And I didn't know but apparently like the Jewish people have some sort of exorcism riot or oh they do they have their whole Their own whole religion No, but I mean like I know they have our own book But yeah, but I mean aside from that they have there's like a whole separate section of like Jewish mysticism That is a little more esoteric than like this straight up like like you're not going to hear about the shit at a synagogue Unless you're like yeah, you know catching like an 80-year-old rabbi in the corner having coffee one day like tell me about the weird shit And even then they probably wouldn't divulge it. Yeah, probably not So I don't speak enough. No, that's that's our differential. I'll talk about that later.
Okay. Uh, so anyway, so the the Semi-famous Dibic box is a wine cabinet claimed to be haunted by a Dibic and it was auctioned off on ebay by a guy named kevin manis who created a story featuring gewish holocaust survivors and Claims that the ebay item in the description was owned by Yeah, like holocaust survivors and it was actually the inspiration for the 2012 horror movie the possession I never saw that did you I don't recall seeing it. I do have the actual contents of what was in the wine cabinet Oh, yeah, I've got that somewhere, but go ahead. Um, there was a goblet.
There was a lock of gold goblet blonde hair and a lock of Brunette hair both tied with string pennies from 1920 a dried up rose bud, which you know rose bud A cast iron candlestick that had like tentacles and Bottom. Yeah, that's crazy and a granite statue with the Hebrew word Shalom shalom engraved into it, which just means like hello or welcome or something like that, right? Right, which I mean all those items I'll be a weird find in the cabin I mean if I opened up an old cabinet and found all that weird shit now, you know, I would question things Um, so I guess it just depends on the research that you looked at but the research I looked at said That the guy who posted it on ebay Yep, this man is dude He says it was a story that he actually made up and used ebay to push He said if you can go anywhere before he posted it on ebay shut up that he will pay $100,000 and get your name tattooed on his forehead if there's no if what do you mean if what if you can find anywhere prior to his Selling this doobic box or divic box on ebay any case of a divic box He will he will pay you a hundred thousand dollars and have your name tattooed on his forehead shut up So he basically and I think he's the one that actually sold those rights to make the movie He was a story writer dude. So what if he cursed it himself?
What if it wasn't even cursed? Maybe it wasn't cursed Maybe it was just a ploy but there's plenty of other items out there So it's currently in the hands of uh the guy from uh ghost adventures Yeah, the he's the zag zag something isn't he like the nephew of like the laurie The Warren's is he related to one? He might be related to the Warren's he's because the Warren's have their own museum right and the zag dude has a museum in vegas with the divic box and a bunch of other like Cursed objects. Yeah, I read I mean I've read some of the happenings around the box where After the guy bought it off ebay he gave it to his mom or his stepmom or something and she immediately had like a stroke Those people have had strokes my own touched it and yeah, that's what I was gonna bring up.
Yeah, like so in uh 2001 I think Or was it 2011? I'm sorry 2018 okay, so much much more reason and uh I saw a couple interviews he talks about it a few times So after all this craziness and you know hearing about it this zag dude contacted jewish rabbis And asked them how to safely contain it and so in his museum. It's in this like glass case with some like objects around it and shit You know it has like a salt ring around yeah, so the award of some kind uh and uh Apparently the zag dude was giving post Malone a tour of the museum like a private tour like yeah Let's go check out this shit and he was like telling him about the divic box And he's like, you know, I've never touched it and both bones like what he's like yeah My guy's touched it and then we put it in this thing so I'm gonna open up the case So the zag dude opens up the case and he's like going to reach for it and grabs it and apparently he posts Malone like Grabbed them by the shoulder and is like dude. Maybe you shouldn't do this like channels it through him into Yeah, so within 30 days Three armed robbers broke into one of his houses like thinking he was there Like they wanted to rob him but they ended up robbing his house um His he was in a bad car accident and The freakiest one is his private plane right when he was getting ready to take off all the fucking wheels blew out dude But like not one flat tire like all flat tires like they couldn't take off They were just like it went all fucking sideways and shit and they had to stop and repair it Yeah, so so he's a little freaked out by it.
Yeah, I'm sure Um and probably the biggest collector and I'm actually Trying to find out um who this guy and it might be the fella you're talking about the Ben guy Um, I don't know who Ben is each time a zag. Yes zag baggan's Baggins um so Ed and Lorraine have a huge museum, of course Uh, oh the warrants. Yeah, yeah, yeah of all of their Found items some of which are very famous. So the warrants are just for background if you don't know Uh also kind of semi-famous Exorcist slash paranormal investigators like they kind of they were kind of like the real Ghostbusters before Ghostbusters Like people would experience weird shit and they would call the warrants to exercise or investigate what was going on in their place And they've got some wild ass stories about extra systems.
Oh, yeah, um, they've also got um This act is got uh the devil's rocking chair. You heard about that one? No I'm I really I'd want to make sure that yeah, I'm trying to stall while you're looking up. Yeah, I'm sorry Um, but uh, so what's crazy is uh, I guess there was an exorcism involved in this chair and supposedly they uh Did some sort of exorcism or ritual around the chair and they said that they saw what they call the beast Sitting in the chair at one point like yeah, see that would have done it for me right then right like i'm done after that Okay, so because I mean i've had weird shit happen to me like that has Spooked me enough like I won't fucking touch a Ouija board like I won't either I mean they're there and they're what's funny is they were like sold as toys.
Yeah, yeah, and uh, it's funny because now they have uh All these little memes it's weird. We were sold by melon Bradley. Yeah, you can be under 21 to summon demons from the pit of hell But you have to be 21 to wear a beer. You know, it's like okay Um, well, I mean it was supposed to be like a you know a kid's game, right?
But many people think there's a demon attached to the Ouija boards to each one Yeah, so like they go through a little I can see the Manufacturing basically like instead of a patron saint. There's like a patron demon attached to Ouija boards that impersonates Like your your yeah, like impersonates your family. Yeah exactly in order to gain possession of you. That's yeah I don't know if you ever listen to it, man, but um It's kind of fucking entertaining if you go back and listen to the episode we did on possession When it was just rhett and I um I think I told you before about you know, and so now i've got soundproofing in Uh my little studio here, but in the early days, brent and I would hang blankets around us Yeah, you told me about yeah, like it looked like you were building a huge tent for yeah Huge tent for it in here man And uh, so obviously you know either when the air would kick on or just you know things would be flapping around so you really didn't pay Not attention to it, but when we were doing the possession episode I don't remember what it was brent was talking about but he was talking about some sort of demon And like in the middle of the show he like looked over my shoulder and he was like fucking what like he got spooked as shit Like the middle kids were moving.
Yeah, he was like dude that spot right there. Just like I don't know He'd start looking weird and I'm like what that's why we only drink beer while we're doing our show and not partake of anything else No spirits is what they call them, right? Isn't that funny? Yeah, um, unfortunately, I'm overlooking that up the internet's pissing me off right now.
So I didn't know you're talking about Yeah, the the relation to ed and lorraine He kind of started this and he had his own show right where they would go and investigate Possible hauntings and stuff like that, right? But it seemed like his specialty was They would go and look beyond just what was going on Right and they would find objects like literally they would find these out of place objects And remove those from the house He had his own museum like I said and he would put stuff in case and secure them safety with spiritual ropes and whatever else Sultures I hope that needs demons. Um, did any of them look like a wooden Rubik's cube. It could have been.
Yeah, exactly That's all we need But it was kind of along the same lines, but his specialty was more cursed item removal Right and it seemed to cleanse the house like you don't want to live in a house. It's got no man I mean part of my research. There's a haunted. It was in England.
I believe house was hardly haunted The maid found a fucking skull right and originally somebody found it took it out of the wall Right and shit went crazy. Like the house people started getting sick. All kind of weird shot was going on So they were like all right best course of action. Let's put the skull back in the wall So they did everything went back to normal So then this maid apparently somehow finds this skull again I mean, maybe they put a little door in front of the skull dammit lady Throws it away like throws it in this river behind the house.
Oh bad. I did house just went Apeshit like crazy and I'm like yeah some shit man like also That's kind of on whoever put the skull back like can't you put a fucking post it out on it dude? Dude, don't touch it. Yeah, how about a look.
Yeah, keep your hands off the skull Don't touch the skull or we're all gonna die and uh, you're gonna be bleeding from your eyelids Have a prolapse in the room What's with you in the prolapse? I'm not hooked on it. I'm just kind of like weirded out by it. Oh, that's what it was so Also that uh that chair uh the devil's rocking chair Uh apparently was the inspiration for the conjuring No Or it was used during filming of the conjuring or something and uh this act dude was saying that um Like the actresses in the movie like were constantly like getting in fights when they were around it Like really like attention around it was like super weird and the weird the I mean if If this guy was faking it then he should get an Oscar Right, so some dude from entertainment tonight some black dude from entertainment tonight goes to This exact dude's place and they're talking about the chair and uh, they're just kind of joking around and the black dude's like No, I'm not gonna send that chair, but you know, maybe I'll touch it and the exact dude's like, I mean Maybe not and uh so he goes on to any you know They're talking back and forth about how like people who have sat in the chair like have like been paralyzed Right or like badshits happen to them, but like a lot of them get like back pain There's people that have trouble walking afterwards all kinds of weird shit And uh, you know, he's like, well, have you ever sat in the chair and zacks like no No, I don't fuck around with that and the guy's like so, you know, is it gonna mess me up?
If I just you know, graze up against it and like no sooner that he gets that out of his mouth The dude gets spooked as shit. He's like what what what no no and he like starts walking out of the room and zacks Like what are you doing? He's like, I think I'm just gonna do the rest of the interview over here Like what what's going on? What are you talking about?
He's like man? This is spooking the shit out of me. He was like I got this pain in my butt that went out my back and I feel like my back is seizing up He's like my back hurts right now. No shit and that's act.
He's like Yeah, you really shouldn't even joke about these objects Right like if you if you mock one of these objects then the spirit attached to them might attack you And that's where they have the conversation. He's like so you believe in this stuff. He's like, I mean, yes and no Right. Um, and it's funny you say that because um in my research, I found there's um There was a another doll like the anabel doll.
Oh, is that Robert? Robert. Yeah, and uh, he's creepy. You're the name of the old my opinion That was insane like the kid kept it like when he was an adult.
Yeah, so the backstory there was the kid had uh, this doll Right, Robert. Maybe his name to his grandfather gave it to him. And he would talk to it Yeah, like he would hear the parents would hear their kid's voice and then like a completely other voice Which is easily done, you know, you can say, hey, uh, oh, maybe he's doing the other Maybe the kids doing the other voice. Maybe the kids doing a grown man's voice.
Maybe not Okay, apparently the doll would show up in random spots. Um, apparently one night The parents came in the room and the whole room was just trashed Kid was laying in bed screaming and he's like Robert did it, you know, so sure Robert just you know Shut up. Is it a little kid being a little kid and you know childish angst or is it something else? Well, further down the line dude keeps this thing all the way up until it's adulthood.
Yeah, and when he dies already creepy enough Yeah, like what the fuck get rid of your doll dude and like we're seeing multiple times I mean this is coming from a dude that has a lot of childhood things around but um, I don't have any dolls Or carried around with you and like chat with it, you know, I don't see what do you think walking around with your lego collection going Hello mr. Starship. What's up lego optimus? How do you feel about this?
So he dies and this lady buys the house that he was living in right and apparently the doll was in the house What and like weird shit was going on? They got rid of it. All right. No wait before you get to the the death After his death so while he was alive He would leave the doll in the window right and like people in the neighborhood would say like they could look up and see it like Walk away and stuff like yeah, like this Move disappear end up in a different window and this is wild that dude was like gone from the house Right like kids riding around in the neighborhood wild dude was at work or whatever.
They'd be like Uh, no kidding. The fucking doll was in another window this morning and now it's on the roof. Yeah Take a p-break man Lord of mercy. You got time.
It's right there Yeah, that's just wild. I mean first of all, I don't look in a lot of windows So just not creepy old houses, but I guess I would if it was a creepy old house and and uh, especially if there's a fucking creepy Ass doll in one window. I mean it is a guy on the corner down here And personally I think he does it for security, but it's like a full-size Like have you ever seen those like not necessarily a mannequin But almost like a statue when you walk into a restaurant and it's like a dude in a chef's hat like holding up late Yeah, yeah, yeah, so dude down the street's got one of those in the front of his fucking house And it's creepy as shit because you'll be driving past it and it looks like a person standing there I think I need to find a like life-size ninja or you know, if you're gonna have something to look Look out through your window like scare them a little fat pizza guy. I mean, that made me Excuse me.
Yeah, the marina my dad worked out. They sold, you know, like Spary shoes and like polos and shit like in the Little ship store and so they had mannequins and the fucking mechanics had the mannequins on the second story of the service channel Right and they would occasionally like put them in weird positions in the windows on the second floor and it was fucking creepy as shit, man I don't know why but like Mannequins that are out of place are creepy as shit. Yeah. Yeah, I mean And again, it totally ties into like the doll stuff and I'm gonna see what was the deal with Annabelle?
So the movies have made it like super crazy spooky. So it was another raggedy and all Really the actual Annabelle doll was a raggedy and all okay, I've seen pictures of that And it was college girls that had it right and the belief is is that whoever Someone might have passed away in the place in their apartment before and had actually possessed this doll That was the original thought process So they uh, they had it taken to an exorcist and they couldn't figure out what was going on At one point one of the girls boyfriends came over to the house and actually died like what under weird circumstances There wasn't anybody there but the doll doubt doll was found like right by this guy, okay? Um, so after a little bit more research they went on to say that it um Was actually possessed by a full-on demon Whoa like it wasn't anything that was an earthbound spirit This was a full-on from hell demon had possessed this thing and this one is another thing with the Warren's too Yeah, the Warren's actually have this in their museum and it is in a like hyper-sealed cabinet with And I mean I saw the uh the cabinet in my research It's got like binder cards like Jesus emblems and stuff like that Rosaries like all different kind of religious artifacts that would keep evil at bay Right, um surrounding this thing like this was the most Um, well, there's five of them. She got like number one.
What do you mean five what? Um, I did a breakdown of the Warren's Collection. Oh, okay. Uh, basically the top five most haunted cursed items in their collection.
Oh, okay, Annabelle was number one like it Oh, okay Uh, no compare that was the most evil and like I said there was a possible death tied to this thing So I mean that's so just one death that's all it was I mean I don't want to say just one death but like as as somebody who looks into conspiracy shit pretty often The parent normal the supernatural the esoteric the weird the weird Uh one occurrence is pretty low for a fucking superstition. Yeah. Yeah, I mean did anything else happen with this thing Oh, I mean it was just everywhere it was it was all kind of I mean it would move around the house Okay, they would have it put in one spot. It would show up somewhere else.
Um, and I mean just weird shit You know that's not supposed to happen. Hmm. All right. I'm not I'm not so long.
I don't know about what else you got all right so Coming in at number five We have the uh What's called the satanic doll Okay resident at their Um, museum and this thing looks weird. It's but it looks like I'm gonna just get this out of the way dolls are weird. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's to be honest with you Like ceramic dolls of their ship is like on their list is doll shit.
Yeah, ceramic dolls are weird as fuck Their eyes are just the weird eyes are weird. I don't understand why people even want them So like because the fancier ones aren't intended like the ones with like porcelain heads It's a little roll up eyes when you yeah The really high-end antique shit like it's not like you can play with those no They're supposed to just kind of set up on a shelf somewhere. Yeah, so why do you even want them? Why do you want these creepy-ass fucking dolls sitting around your house?
I mean, I know like they sure far away to Like if I wanted to fuck with my dad is get one of those marionette like the old time Oh, yeah, like an old bro. He is terrified of those things Like if I put one of those in a truck he would probably just fucking never go in his truck again Like a wooden marionette and it loses your Just like this. I can't even remember the name. They were very popular.
I think you buy them for like kids Yeah, um, yeah, he can like what's your name? And Woody yeah, he cannot tolerate that shit But back to the satanic doll It looks like somebody like did a lot of drugs and then went to art class And built this thing out of clay It's got horns and this elongated base with human features. It's just really weird elongated limbs Dude finds it out in the woods might okay. That's red flag number one It's in Connecticut is where all this went down And supposedly as he's carrying it out and again, this is all speculation until I've been there to see it I don't know this area is known for like satanic worship and stuff like that.
Okay on his way out of the woods He's met by this guy in a black cloak and he's like wait, we're really ought not touch things and that He's met by a guy in a black in the woods in the woods So goes the story bro. So I don't I mean you and Brett know I generally don't hang out in the woods down here because South Carolina's got snakes snakes ticks possums Rabbit possums that jump out of trees. There's a lot of shit down here that makes it annoying to go out And it's mostly the heat and the bugs Because 90 percent of the year it's hot as shit here and lots of bugs and going where the bugs live Just doesn't seem fun to me, but in Indiana I spent a shitload of time in the woods and I didn't see that much crazy shit like to find a fucking doll To find a fucking doll in the woods. I don't think I would touch that motherfucker man.
No, no I'd be like, okay some weird shit's going right here Like can you imagine just walking through the woods and you see a fucking weird ass doll? Standing there like I'm leaving it. I'm leaving it alone. Are you touching that shit?
No, and then Dude anytime I met anybody out in the woods it freaked me the fuck out And I mean it was usually like either like somebody that owned the property and they were checking on us or you know Occasionally another hunter like public hunting ground you always yeah public hunting ground That's always different Somebody sometimes and you know sometimes you hit it off sometimes you don't but you know lots of Indiana is fucking Farmland and just random patches of fucking woods Do you know how uncommon it is to just run into somebody right let alone in a fucking cloak like seriously dude You left the house today in a cloak at that point. I'm thinking I'm leaving this way. I'm going to the woods today I'm gonna wear my best cloak. I'm leaving.
I'm out. So the fuck is this? Yeah, so I'm sorry I just it just seemed like that's red flag number two. Yeah, go ahead But again once he got it out strange occurrences and there's that seems to be the biggest Uh, I don't want to say just blanket explanation like what went on stranger currencies That's usually all you get out of some of the research So never really you mean like extremely car ran off the road and their light bulbs wouldn't stay on sometimes Sometimes they are specific as far as like this happened And uh, you know guy ended up with bites on his arm or you know something weird like that But the one that is doubles dull again the best explanation they gave was stranger currencies So he was like here you go.
You can have it give it to Ed and they've got it locked up in their museum about it Okay, so it's it's not one of the ones that they were like, okay, we need to like go get now Get get some religious artifacts and a priest and some whole water and shit. We don't need a young priest. I don't know priest um again following the um The toy slash doll the toy monkey that's and it actually showed up in one of the adabel movies All right, um it made its debut, but it is a toy monkey little toy with the symbols with the symbols Why are those always creepy? They're fucking creepy in every movie always and I You know anytime they show a monkey with the fucking symbols dude.
I'm like, oh that's gonna happen And maybe that's just media training us. I don't know and that's what I was just getting ready to say like if you remember I was talking about australia how we're constantly just bombarded with pictures of australia being giant spiders and fucking sharks and You know it would make a person not ever want to go to fucking australia How many fucking movies have there been about like creepy fucking dolls and monkey dolls and yeah, you know just dolls in general Watching these movies reanimated you never want to go near a fucking doll. It's like you would just want to avoid the barbie section completely Like could you imagine a fucking demon-spirited barbie dude be crazy it would but You wouldn't have to be afraid of her though because you know as we all know uh barbie's dimensions aren't possible So she would just like snap in half because she was too too too heavy But yeah, this monkey apparently um it was a good one for being found in different locations around the house Yeah, the moving thing is weird, but it's also like were you guys just moving around? You know grandad there might have been weird shit attached to it But also I also man it kind of goes along with the uh thought process of anybody who's talking to a conspiracy theorist like I wish I remembered the word there's a word that me that basically means making connections That are logical leaps just to explain a situation.
There's a word for that. Oh, okay I don't know the word you know what i'm talking about that I do know what you're saying like instead of Elaborating completely you just automatically jump off and like this is the logical answer. This is why it's happening Right just using you know, you know, basically cherry picking Things you know occurrences to tie to an event or an object or people or whatever to explain whatever you want Yeah, because I could say you're you know, yeah, like your lego fun wheel over here is a haunted object and You know for whatever reason somebody comes in and moves something in the studio and then we come back and it's like Hey, wait man. Something's moved in here something's different than right tied into your fucking creepy funhouse Yeah, my creepy Lego optimist is uh evil because You came over here three times and you had car trouble three times.
You know what i'm saying? Like how much of it is how much of it is that? Yeah, if I come over and this mother fucker is like roll out Okay, i'm out So yeah things that would tell you to do stuff I definitely feel like The um the other one and there's actually a couple items that I wanted to hit on that aren't dull related or weird statue Well, before you get into that I need to be again. Okay, so um, I mean unless you just don't want to pause and you can tell people where to find Us online gonna how you're gonna make me remember?
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Um, how do you feel about uh, okay before I get into uh, uh, anti You know anti evil spirits and wards and shit. So along the same lines as Uh, I don't know how to say this so along the same lines as um Attaching meaning to things that aren't real. How do you feel about people assigning? I guess what's the best way to say it?
You know kind of like how if you think something's bad bad's going to happen then it will happen. So it's more the um It's the opposite of self-progression where you will you know, there's a new thing going on I say new where people are like willing things into it. Yeah, like positive Process positive affirmation the secret all that kind of shit So you feel like if there are a negative aspect of that like you are haunted right like if you Yeah, you could push a negative thought because I mean evil When we see it can manifest in many forms, but the biggest one is just a negative energy We're like everything just seems to be fucking going wrong Right, you can't find joy in your life. You can't find happiness in your life And I think that's how evil manifests itself, you know, it's not always like bloody fucking skulls jumping out of the closet on you Right, scaring you Well, there's like the the so if you force negative energy out, I think I think a person that does that just exudes negative energy could possibly Create an field within their home.
Well, not just not just that but I mean like it's kind of self-fulfilling prophecy like Uh, I'm sure you've had plenty of pessimistic friends in your life that are just like oh, yeah, of course this happened It's my fucking luck. Oh my bad luck. Oh, I just got this dark cloud following me around Oh, yeah, like I feel like people who expect back things to happen bad things happen too Because they don't have that positive aspect in their life Right and I mean Do you feel like that's based on a spiritual thing or is that I don't know that a personal energy that we're I know man. That's what I'm saying.
Uh, I mean Christ if you believe in that things and those things said the power of life and death is in the tongue He he was actually telling his disciples like careful what you say because you have the ability to affect reality I mean if you want to like think of it in different terms like he's basically saying like you have the ability to affect The things around you by the things that you say and believe yeah, I I mean I can Completely get on board with that. I mean a couple reasons. Let's be real There is such a thing as positive and negative energy man. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm a Sagittarius and unfortunately I have the innate ability to just Stay shit how it is Unfortunately, it's my nature to be Honestly brutal honestly, you know sometimes and yeah, I'm a Leo.
I'm uh, I'm Unapologetically, you know entertaining and fun to be around right? Yes, you are Dan But I I've cut people to the fucking bone in it virtually not even purposely So yeah, that's speaking like that's a whole truth in reality But that's sort of energy is a whole different thing, but I agree with you like there does seem to be some sort of correlation With the energy of the planets under whatever you were born. I don't know how that works, but well again It's like are you assigning those attributes to people? Yes, maybe But like book and saying yeah, that's exactly I mean I didn't mean to get into fucking astrology But yeah, since you mentioned it.
I mean like yeah, and I'm there it Terry's a Virgo dude She's like a fucking textbook earth sign. She's very practical very pragmatic Like if it's like any of the weird shit I talk about she's like that's not real you're crazy, Dan Yeah, I mean a lot of people would consider her a pessimist because she's just like well No, this is just the way life is there's there's everything with her is black and white right? There's nothing in the gray area. She's just like this is the way life is and I'm like yeah, but it could be magical The funniest part is life is when people that are like that Experience something yes, not black and white it is kind of like straight down that alley It's something that curves off to the right and you're like let's watch what happens next Because it's like hold on now.
I have to fucking reevaluate my entire existence because in my brain I've been going down this path and suddenly I'm presented with this odd unexplainable Fucking thing that should not be able to happen right now force the fucking deal with it So right and I was talking to a friend of mine that's going through some shit You mean you have other friends than me and Brian. I'm sorry to tell you the fuck I know I thought we were the only ones I mean it gets to be dragged sometimes, but I was talking to a dude that is experiencing At least what doctors are telling him is depression for the first time in his life Like actual clinical depression right and I was talking to him about you know positive thinking and positive speech versus negative and what have you? And he's like yeah, well that doesn't really matter and I'm like well If you want to point some scientific evidence at it You know about the the experiments and I wish I knew the name of them, but it's been documented like There was an experiment done with plants. Yeah.
Yeah, like everybody knows like oh if you want your plants to grow better You talk to them right well you're supposed to also just say nice things to them Yeah, so if you say negative things to your plant like your plants really don't do that well They kind of get oh yeah, there was an experiment done Where there was the same type of plants in two different rooms and in one room The the scientists and researchers would just say really positive shit to them all day when they would come in and water them like You're the best plant. Oh, I can't believe how green you are. You're growing so well Oh, you're the best plant ever you just make every part of my life better and in the other room They just talk mad shit to the plants like fuck why are you even here? I don't even know why I'm watering you because you're not you're not gonna grow and it worked like the negative room the plants died Like they all died so the other room they flourished dude like come on man Yeah, there's something going on that ties into the the energy that we project For ourselves as human beings like I don't understand how people can't get a hold of that idea that we As humans have that ability to project energy be it a negative and I've been to parties Yep, and one person come in and just be in a fucking shit.
Oh, it runs the whole place Like I've experienced it myself where you know If I'm say say I want to have it get together and I'm not feeling 100 percent into it or just kind of like blah My mood will completely affect the way that party rolls out. Yeah, but if I'm in my fucking hey Hey, let's go. Let me put my dancing shoes on then that party's blow out I mean it's you know and yeah alcohol is probably sometimes the best precursor for that because If you're drinking and you start to feel like shit like depressed you need to stop and just go to bed Yeah, because then you end up just drinking because you're depressed or sad Yeah, you should never really you really should never drink when you're sad or mad or upset because it I mean it is a depressant oh absolutely but For positive people like you and I the the good thing about alcohol is that it removes Inabisions and everybody knows that right? But it also allows you to have not be ashamed to have more fun Yeah, like most people are like oh, well, I don't want to act like that because I don't want people to think whatever about me Or I don't want to cause a scene or I don't want to do this or that who fucking cares Yeah, who fucking cares?
I mean as long as you're not hurting anybody and you know you're not being obnoxious about it Uh, that's when it can get a little too far. Yeah. Yeah, that's usually what it gets me into trouble It's like if I'm having too good of a time Then people can start getting annoyed and I'm like wait a minute on top of the phone Why don't you want to have a good time? I don't get it.
Yeah, I mean yeah, I think this whole room needs to fucking sing Neil Diamond together Sweet Caroline You surprised that I knew that something a little bit, but I know you're versed in the other night. We are ways of the diamond complete. Yes we uh I don't always listen to like my liking fucking music all the time The other night. I was just like I want to listen to something different.
So I threw one like uh one of my Pandora Music stations is uh the doors Nice doors music. So of course, it's got a lot of the doors music which One of my top favorite fucking bands ever like old bands. Oh, yeah, I'm with younger kids know about them Like I'm like fuck. Yeah, you like it.
You like it, you know, it makes me excited that some of the younger darition has taste Just doesn't want to listen to fucking wop If that wet ass pussy, I'm glad you cleared that up. Yeah, we're already getting eaten just me and Italian guys Uh, see they would have never thought it But uh, yeah, so um and it just put a different vibe on me man. Like just the music change So that's what I think that's what I'm getting at is the fact that like the music will listen to you And then if you're having a good time having a few beers You start zooming that good energy. Everybody feels great.
Right, but and I think there's some reality in that and People don't want to think about the intangible right like uh anything esoteric when you talk to most people Uh, they're gonna back away from they're like, oh, I bet you want to talk about crystals and shit and you're like, yeah Not really but uh, there is some truth to just some fucking positive thinking man And if nothing else You'll find that You have the ability to control your attitude, right? And that Somebody told me that about 20 years ago and it really fucking stuck with me They were like, you know, you have The ability to decide how you're going to react to everything in your life. Yep Like there's nothing stopping you from having a good time. No matter what you're doing Like even like your most tedious task, you know, raking the lawn I mean nobody's making you have a bad time doing that like yeah, it might be physically a kind of a pain in the ass But nobody's stopping you from you know playing a little music, uh, you know making it a game You know, that's like when I'm pressure washing or you know, we eating Yeah, it's gonna sound really stupid, but especially like pressure washing.
I go into this like i'm a terminator mode And i'm just like Watching you just bling and all this stuff and it's just like I am the destroyer And there's a power that comes but and I don't care who you are I defy Somebody to say that they've got into a mundane activity something that's just so repetitive like like we eating or or you know Uh pressure washing or something like that to where you can see the results of what you're doing But it's just continuous non-stop like you're doing the same thing over and over Your mind has to put you somewhere to make that enjoyable. Right for me. It's like i'm eradicating But um, I mean just just more proof of that is I mean who do you like being around? Do you like being around the fucking haters that like just one or my beer one of folks Want to complain about everything want, you know want to find an issue with everything always got something to complain about Yeah, do you want to be around that guy?
Not so much at all. Um, I did want to kind of Back up just one step to what you were saying earlier about how we have a choice Um Probably one of the most profound things that ever happened to me growing up and unfortunately I feel like I wish it had hit me Earlier in life, but I think I was in like in my early 30s when it actually hit me in all right Um, it was this thought process about growing up. Okay. Um, and I was not the greatest kid I'll admit I got in the trouble and I did shit.
No, yeah, I mean, you know, not you but Growing up it was always like oh, you know, my parents got divorced and you know I had a whole life and this and that and everything else one day It was the weirdest thing and to be honest with you. It was the very first time I shaved the mohawk into my head Yep. Yep. It was like somebody pulled these chains off.
I mean I was like I'm responsible for what I do I'm responsible for what I say not not mommy and daddy because they you know weren't the greatest fucking parents or because they got divorced what I do in my life is mine to bear my choice my thing and Since that moment my life changed because I became responsible for that It's nobody's fault if I go out here right now and kick shit out of somebody Right. It's nobody else's idea thought or otherwise than mine Exactly it could be because they looked at me funny or give me the bird But my reaction to that is my choice exactly so and I think the world has lost that like I think so too Well, anything is everybody else's fault. I can't do this because the government doesn't you know, they take too much taxes Or my boss doesn't pay me enough money. There's ways and means around stuff that sure that are positive that you can push and make happen Yeah, you certainly can that's a really good point dude Sorry, I didn't mean to get all like weird deep on you man But like I wanted to share that experience because I feel like that's the kind of shit people need to fucking hear man I agree there's there's so much and being around younger people don't have younger kids, you know, and I'm saying they're great They're you know, don't get me wrong.
I just feel like there are things that they can control Yep to make like better. Well, I mean, it's not about My was this or daddy was that it's oh, you know when I was born I didn't come out with like a little tag on my toe that said here's how little Steve needs to be brought up This is how he needs to eat. This is how he needs to sleep. This is how he needs to be treated talk to and otherwise We're just going on what we were fucking taught what my parents were taught what they're fucking taught You know and now the world the way it is It's become such a fucking mess well, yeah, and there's like like a victim mentality and like I've had bad shit happen to me too man and Bad shit at a young age and on into life as everybody does right And there's a lot of folks that would take those experiences and let them fuck them up Right.
That's what makes me a mess and they either want to like medicate it or get it out in therapy And if that's what's good for you, I'm not saying that's a bad thing but I'm saying for me I Use that pain to Try to understand other people better. Does that make sense better? Yeah, absolutely Like like dealing with the pain of a death or you know people going through you know bad family situations or You know like a domestic violence or you know somebody's kid dies tragically or you know what I'm saying like bad shit like that Like there is that there is a positive thing to take away from it And that is that you have the ability to understand the plight of other humans better and then you Gain some compassion and can treat them better after that right like I try not to lose my shit when people Are nasty to me because I'm always like okay Well, maybe they're dealing with some shit that is fucking them up. Yeah, and most people are You know, I guess like I agree.
I didn't mean to turn this into a soapbox Well, I mean it does kind of tie in because like it does I are we curse items are we you can't but that's my point If you let yourself be yeah, so I want to do an experiment like before and I'll tell you what happens by now I mean I don't mean to get too goofy but I'm gonna go by a what what do you and I say to each other all the time Um, love you No, no, no, if you're gonna if you're gonna sign off if you're gonna sign off from a text oh Positive energy positive energy. So that's our thing. Seriously. We say that back and forth to each other all the time And it was a thing I got from a car teen a dumb cartoon called apple and orange or apple and onion And uh the cartoon itself is just ridiculous.
It's all like foods. There's an apple obviously Yeah, the onion just a falafel and he's just a big falafel and very racist. He just he has very much a uh I can't believe we didn't even bring this up during the cartoon episode now But one of their they had this little song or something and they all they they were like doing work or something Right and they were like positive energy gets the job done So I picked up on it and then that was like been damn nice greeting or sometimes our sign off sometimes a mantra Yeah, just a reminder to just you know be fucking cool, man So to mix it up a little bit actually he sent me a text with all capital positive energy So I uh, I pulled up a plus sign and a lightning bolt So I made an emoji for positive energy now we can play with but yeah, that's kind of our thing So what would happen in your thoughts? All right, so using the positive and negative outputs of The plant experiment so positive positively made the plants uh positivity made the plants grow Negativity made the plants die.
So what would happen if we took An item or maybe two items because we might need to one to battle the other one if we actually make this successful And like just curse just cussed at it, you know, he manned all and just like, you know You motherfucker and you make shit and she robs better than you and right, right? Right Then do like another one Are you trying to create a curse object like well, that's what I'm saying is it possible through negative energy and is I mean, I don't know if I want to be responsible for that shit if it is like a negative response if curse items Oh, okay, perfect the macho man. He can't be cursed Have you seen this before? No, it's the macho man like so, uh, I forget the name of this dude But uh, so for the listener, I just pulled out of a drawer a macho man Randy savage that has been designed From a human character he has Extremely gigantic muscles.
He's got like a nice. It's fucking macho man. Did of course he's jacked I feel like Why is he wearing like a little work and tell me I think it's supposed to be like a dew rag. Oh, okay, because he was always wearing a In like a bandana That was a whole code they always had the bandana.
Oh, they both did because they were losing their hair Yeah, so I think if we did you're saying that you just fucking yell at macho every day Just sit there and just like, you know do horrible things doing, you know, so you wouldn't be afraid of the ghost of the macho king Would come to come back and fucking haunt you laying there and bed next thing you hear is like Just like in the middle of the night. Oh, yeah Just haunting you from the show. That's why we have to do a positive one like somebody that could defeat macho Andre to giant doll. I've got actually for some Andre probably could be to me.
Yeah, I have a um, I love macho man, but he was small Yes I don't know why I received this gift or why they had it but um Dawn took the grandkids to a friend of hers to do like little arts and crafts stuff and right upon returning They brought the arts and crafts back, but then she hands me a fucking stretch armstrong. Yeah, but it's Donald Trump That's hilarious. And I'm like what the fuck? Yeah, it might be funniest either like the greatest curse object we could curse that's hilarious Just everybody's hair starts turning the orange around it.
I wonder if you could do something that's like uh not not like a Blessing or a curse. What if you just came like kept the the trump stretch armstrong out in your shed And you came out and just told it like three jokes every day, right? Like what could you could you imbue it with funny energy and then anybody who touched the the stretch armstrong would suddenly become Would suddenly become hilarious? I don't know.
Is there a different kind of energy we could put on this? I mean it's all kind of energy. You know, you can make it sad. You can just go out there and tell them sad to press the stories So I'd be okay.
I'd be more comfortable with you trying that experiment than than the curse See that laugh the curse would definitely my luck it would absolutely work and then we would have a cursed fucking macho man All around fucking hell. No, you're not gonna curse macho man. It's not possible. He would fight it off He would be the bomb.
He's giving big elbows from heaven right now. Right praise and then ball praise be anyway I think we are I think we covered it. I think we covered a few things and you know I mean I was gonna get into blessing a little bit, but I think we kind of covered that with the positive shift Yeah, I mean like I said like if you want don't you want bad shit to happen expected if you don't Put on fucking the OMC's how bizarre and you'll be in a good mood. I promise definitely But like just don't go to thrift stores and buy fucking creepy dolls and expect them not to be fucked with right?
I mean again. It's kind of like There's a level of belief that I have in some of this shit. I'm not I'm not saying I've necessarily had a I've always said superstitions are only real if you believe in them, you know Uh, yeah, I think only good thoughts and like positive energy positive energy. It's the way we like to sign it out Hell yeah, all right, Dan.
Love you positive energy positive energy safe folks. We'll see you next week Bye